[02:38] <dpb1> SynfulAck: yup, you got it.  -host was just an example of course.
[08:30] <Blueking> are there ways to check what cpu we have on pc ?
[08:30] <Blueking> ubuntu server 14.04
[08:31] <andol> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:31] <Blueking> TY :)
[09:21] <RoyK> Blueking: or lscpu
[12:32] <Mava> hmm, using hp with hardware raid. I should have ~9Tb disk created, but the fdisk shows only 1.1Tb. Any tips what to look for
[12:33] <tomreyn> Mava: what does the hp raid management utility show?
[12:35] <tomreyn> the one you can load from the firmware, and the one you can load from linux (hpssacli, hpacucli)
[12:35] <tomreyn> if both show the full site, see lsblk output, too.
[12:36] <Mava> the lsblk says 1.1T
[12:36] <Mava> hmm,, ssacli says "this controller has an incompatible driver"
[12:36] <Mava> can't be o.0
[12:38] <tomreyn> which server and raid array controller is it?
[12:38] <tomreyn> and which ubuntu version?
[12:39] <Mava> 1604lts, hp 380g10 with with..
[12:39] <tomreyn> !hwe
[12:39] <tomreyn> try this
[12:40] <Mava> tomreyn: definitely
[12:40] <tomreyn> https://community.hpe.com/t5/ProLiant-Servers-ML-DL-SL/P816i-a-Smart-Array-logical-drives-not-presented-to-OS/td-p/7004208
[12:43] <Mava> tomreyn: seems the controller is HPE Smart Array P408i-a SR
[12:46] <tomreyn> Mava: note the sattement "(My guess is that the E208i and P408i controllers behave the same way. )" in the linked post
[12:47] <tomreyn> so just try the hwe kernel
[12:47] <Mava> tomreyn: definitely hits this case
[12:48] <Mava> tomreyn: quite funny though since I worked with this matter in somewhere in march / april and this thread has been posted 3 weeks ago =)
[12:48] <Mava> tomreyn: yup, and works
[12:48] <Mava> tomreyn: so thanks!
[12:49] <tomreyn> nice, that's what hwe is for, supporting new hardware
[12:49] <Mava> in the end it was (surprise) my fault by messing the installation
[12:49] <Mava> and the hwe seems to work well
[12:50] <tomreyn> make sure you're well aware of hwe support cycles.
[12:50] <tomreyn> but you'll want to upgrade the kernel regularly anyways, i guess ;)
[12:51] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=16.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.svg
[13:02] <Mava> tomreyn: that i wasnt aware of, thanks for pointing out as well
[13:02] <Mava> probably the box will be upgrade to 18 at some point in next autumn
[13:40] <tomreyn> good planning :)
[15:24] <rbasak> ahasenack: sorry, looks like I missed your email on this again
[15:25] <rbasak> I wonder if it's my phone marking it as read
[15:25] <rbasak> I swear I haven't seen it
[15:25] <ahasenack> hehe
[15:27] <rbasak> ahasenack: looks good
[15:29] <rbasak> ahasenack: I'm happy to upload the trees at the current state of both clean-changelog-for-upload branches. Just to confirm that's what you're happy for me to sponsor and upload now?
[16:29] <nacc> rbasak: so git-ubuntu CI is back to green, right?
[16:33] <Neo4> hi, who know how to create torrent files?
[16:34] <Neo4> I created one, and it doesn't load on my virtual machine,
[16:34] <Neo4> Who can try to load my file http://kselax.ru/wordpress.torrent
[16:34] <Neo4> how many there seeds/
[16:34] <Neo4> ?
[16:34] <Neo4> do you see one seeder?
[16:34] <Neo4> I open this file on my local computer and seeding now
[16:34] <Neo4> I simply interesting why I can't load from VM, there trackers shows none of seeds
[16:36] <swebb> @neo4: one seed, one peer
[16:37] <Neo4> swebb: and load is going on?
[16:37] <swebb> Looks like it's downloading
[16:37] <Neo4> run in cient
[16:37] <swebb> 100KB/sec
[16:37] <Neo4> swebb: try there not harm files
[16:37] <Neo4> really?
[16:37] <Neo4> try get files
[16:38] <swebb> It's downloading.  I'd rather not actually open the files since I'm downloading random files off the internet from a stranger. :)
[16:39] <swebb> killed it
[16:39] <Neo4> swebb: oh, I'm not a stranger
[16:39] <Neo4> ok, there pdf books
[16:39] <Neo4> swebb: see my peers https://ibb.co/cnBqD8
[16:39] <swebb> Neo4: oh yea?  What kind of dog do I have?  :)
[16:39] <Neo4> 0 seeds
[16:39] <Neo4> swebb: what does it mean?
[16:39] <Neo4> I don't know your dog...
[16:40] <swebb> Then you're a stranger.  :)
[16:41] <Neo4> swebb: you can download, why you scare?
[16:41] <Neo4> just don't run them,
[16:41] <Neo4> files can harm computer only when you run them
[16:41] <swebb> I killed the download.  The test worked.
[16:41] <swebb> Your torrent works.
[16:41] <Neo4> swebb: Thanks
[16:41] <swebb> I don't want/need your actual files.
[16:42] <Neo4> swebb: Ok, I did it behalf test, One and put books, before I put one picture and guy said it might not have downloaded because little size :)
[16:42] <Neo4> with books more size
[16:43] <Neo4> swebb: for your own torrent site we need set up your own torrent tracker?
[16:43] <swebb> No, you can use any open tracker
[16:44] <Neo4> swebb: and they are enough reliable?
[16:44] <Neo4> I thought suddenly they are disappeared or works badly
[16:44] <swebb> sure
[16:44] <Neo4> ok
[16:44] <Nafallo> bittornado is still in main. just saying.
[16:44] <Neo4> anyway for a while use open trakers, and we can in any time set up your own or change trackers for any files
[16:45] <Neo4> Nafallo: I read this trackers closed now, under low it seems like illegal?
[16:45] <Neo4> pirate bay was closed
[16:45] <Neo4> and others trackers
[16:46] <Nafallo> have a think about content first please.
[16:47] <Neo4> in Ukraine it's legal, here I haven't heard about blocking some sites, besides russians
[16:47] <Nafallo> that discussion is sort of off-topic here.
[16:48] <Nafallo> I'm just saying you have a good client/tracker/whatever for torrents in Ubuntu main. I believe you asked about that.
[16:48] <Neo4> Nafallo: theoretically content could be any. it's not importent. For example books, I frequently seek in google books
[16:48] <Neo4> Nafallo: ok
[16:49] <Neo4> Nafallo: see If I use seed on the same computer and on virtual machine I want to donload I can't why?
[16:50] <Neo4> it might on the same computer we can't use the same torrent
[16:50] <Neo4> strange behavior
[16:50] <Neo4> all my computers have the same outside IP
[16:51] <Neo4> tracker site might think that this is one computer
[16:51] <Neo4> or I don't know
[16:51] <Nafallo> I never said I was an expert in torrenting. please don't hilight about issues with regards to the little knowledge I was able to share.
[16:52] <ahasenack> rbasak: yes, please upload from the clean-changelog-for-upload branch, thanks
[17:27]  * dpb1 gets goosebumps
[17:35] <roaksoax>   /win 10
[17:51] <Blueking> I have two hdd's  purpose are for media.. one for kids and one for grown up ..  I have used up space on grown up hdd.. and I want to split kids hdd in two  and add it to grown up hdd look like one hdd  how ?
[17:56] <sarnold> best is to start over with openzfs; take a look at this series of blog posts +
[17:56] <sarnold> https://pthree.org/2012/12/04/zfs-administration-part-i-vdevs/
[17:59] <jon_> Neo4, seems like you really want people to run your files.
[17:59] <Neo4> jon_: no, only test
[18:00] <Neo4> jon_: If I wanted to do some hurt I would placed my file on torrent sites
[18:01] <Neo4> jon_: it works, Torrent might not work if you have 2 peers on the same IP and one peer seed other leech, it might tracker can't recognize both peers
[18:01] <Neo4> for test we need somebody download file. it's the easiest way to test torrent
[18:04] <swebb> Yea, just /ignore him.
[18:05] <sarnold> Neo4: I was able to connect and download a megabyte or two no trouble
[18:05] <Neo4> right, it's work
[18:07] <JanC> Neo4: your virtual machine is probably behind a NAT; then you need to forward a port to it...
[18:08] <Neo4> in my modem?
[18:08] <JanC> in the virtualisation software
[18:08] <Neo4> vmware?
[18:08] <JanC> if you use vmware, then in vmware, yes
[18:09] <JanC> either that or don't use NAT in vmware
[18:09] <Neo4> What does it mean?
[18:09] <jon_> what kind of vmware? ESXi or Workstaton or whatev?
[18:11] <Neo4> JanC: see https://ibb.co/i5YCAo
[18:11] <Neo4> Shall I off NAT
[18:11] <jon_> It will be at your modem/firewall as well.
[18:12] <Neo4> ok, I'll try off and test, right now
[18:12] <JanC> the real modem/router probably has UPNP enabled to configure port forwarding
[18:13] <Neo4> yes, without UPnP it doesnt open income port in Transmission
[18:13] <Neo4> UPnP was off in modem, I on it
[18:14] <jon_> I'm too paranoid for that.
[18:14] <JanC> you can also manually forward ports and then Transmission would work too
[18:15] <JanC> provided you tell Transmission (or whatever torrent client you use) the exact port
[18:16] <JanC> and yes, you probably want to use bridging instead of NAT for the VM
[18:19] <Neo4> JanC: with this https://ibb.co/hsdb38
[18:19] <Neo4> internet doesn't work
[18:19] <Neo4> will try bridge
[18:20] <Neo4> I don't understand what is nat, bridge and privet
[18:21] <Neo4> it's out of my scope :)
[18:21] <jon_> bridge is like plugging your vm into your modem
[18:25] <ProCycle> So I've got a broken package that's in limbo (upgrading mariadb-server). It can't install, and I can't remove it because " package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should
[18:25] <ProCycle>  reinstall it before attempting a removal"
[18:26] <ProCycle> Need to completely remove it so I can get it back to a not broken state
[18:28] <sarnold> apt-get install -f may help
[18:29] <ProCycle> The problem is the install post script expects a service file to exist that doesn't
[18:29] <ProCycle> So it will always fail
[18:30] <ProCycle> I've tried -f, and --reinstall
[18:30] <Neo4> with bridge Internet works, but download can't. On #transmission guy said it's difficult to test on vmware, better give file somebody
[18:31] <sarnold> ProCycle: you may need to resort to manual dpkg commands... apt dumps the packages into /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:32] <Neo4> or apt-get autoremove or autoclean
[18:33] <sarnold> neither of those is likely to help this situation
[18:36] <jon_> Neo4, the port could be blocked at your modem.
[18:39] <ProCycle> I can remove the actual packages with "sudo dpkg --force-all -r mariadb-server-core-10.2"
[18:40] <ProCycle> But the meta-package still remains
[18:40] <ProCycle> And still cannot be removed
[18:42] <Neo4> ProCycle: dependances? What the metapackages? use apt-get autoremove its remove all not needed dependencies
[18:43] <Neo4> jon_: can't help, I'd better stop try. Need two computers in network. with different IP
[18:44] <Neo4> tracker determine peers by IP, they see my two peers seeder and leacher and don't allow leeching
[18:45] <Neo4> How tracker will distinguish peers on the same IP?
[18:45] <sarnold> trackers cannot
[18:45] <sarnold> torrents don't work well across NAT routers
[18:46] <nacc> ProCycle: can you not do the same with the metapackage?
[18:48] <ProCycle> dpkg doesn't see it
[18:48] <ProCycle> I've tried
[18:48] <ProCycle> but apt still acts like it's installed
[18:52] <Neo4> ProCycle: try reboot comp, it sometimes help
[18:53] <Neo4> reboot comp and then again repeat remove commands
[18:55] <rbasak> nacc: thank you for the MP over the weekend. As it passed I landed it this morning and restarted the bastion against it.
[18:55] <rbasak> nacc: it seems that it's broken on the bastion though :(
[18:55] <rbasak> The self test fails there too.
[18:55] <rbasak> I've reverted the bastion for now and waiting for it to restart
[18:55] <rbasak> I'll look deeper tomorrow.
[18:58] <ProCycle> After doing "sudo apt-get -f install" to "fix" any dependences I was able to do "sudo dpkg -r mariadb-server-10.2"
[19:06] <ProCycle> *rage* install script is still broken
[19:07] <ProCycle> I wonder maybe I should just make a fake service file that does nothing but makes the script happy
[19:09] <ProCycle> Well this is strange, there's actually a mysqld.service file in /etc/systemd/system/ but I can't start it
[19:10] <ProCycle> Just says it can't find the unit when I do sudo systemctl start mysqld.service
[19:10] <rbasak> Ubuntu has never shipped MariaDB 10.2
[19:14] <Neo4> ProCycle: systemctl start mysql.service without ld
[19:14] <ProCycle> Tried that too
[19:15] <Neo4> and?
[19:15] <Neo4> works?
[19:16] <Neo4> ProCycle: install mysql instead mariadb
[19:16] <ProCycle> No it also does not exist
[19:16] <Neo4> sudo apt-get install mysql-service
[19:16] <ProCycle> The service files actually do exist though
[19:16] <ProCycle> So I'm not sure why systemd insists they don't exist
[19:16] <Neo4> because you didn't install
[19:17] <Blueking> how to monitor cpu load ?
[19:17] <Neo4> oh server
[19:18] <Neo4> ProCycle:
[19:18] <Neo4> 	sudo apt-get -y install mysql-server
[19:18] <Neo4> ProCycle: not mysql-service mysql-server I confused
[19:19] <Blueking> ah forget question.. got munin installed on server
[19:44] <JanC> ProCycle: you can always cheat and edit the post-install (or whatever) script
[19:45] <ProCycle> Do I need to do that inside the deb file? Because I tried editing it in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ directory and it ignored my changes
[19:46] <JanC> well, maybe more useful when you try to remove it (the removal scripts should come from there)
[19:47] <JanC> or when just configuring it
[19:47] <JanC> if you re-install it would likely overwrite...
[19:49] <Blueking> how to see how many core's and threads mine xeon  cpu has ?
[19:50] <Blueking> ok  2 core 4 threads..
[19:50] <ProCycle> Blueking, Should be able to see that with cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:50] <Blueking> just wonder why intel says 4 core 8 threads on xeon E3 v3 1230L
[19:51] <Blueking> model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230L v3 @ 1.80GHz
[19:53] <Neo4> Blueking: top or htop
[19:54] <Neo4> try type top command
[19:57] <powersj> Blueking: https://ark.intel.com/products/75053/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230L-v3-8M-Cache-1_80-GHz
[19:57] <Blueking> my linux reports 2 cpu 2 threads per core
[19:58] <ahasenack> rbasak: I've got phpmyadmin asking for mysql's root password, but that's no longer used, right?
[20:00] <Neo4> ahasenack: it seems phpmyadmin only asking about phpmyadmin password
[20:00] <ahasenack> I will try again on a fresh container, as I was looking for something else, but I think it asked for the phpmyadmin password, and mysql's root password
[20:00] <rbasak> ahasenack: you shouldn't need one to authenticate as root against the local instance if you are root.
[20:00] <ahasenack> even though I told it to use the unix socket
[20:00] <rbasak> It might ask anyway
[20:01] <ahasenack> it didn't like a blank answer
[20:01] <ahasenack> (phpmyadmin, that is)
[20:01] <rbasak> You can still set a MySQL root password if you have to
[20:01] <rbasak> You can do it if you reconfigure mysql-server-5.7 with a lower debconf priority
[20:01] <rbasak> (or by hand using the client)
[20:03] <Neo4> ahasenack: I just remove and installed and it asked only once for phpmyadmin
[20:03] <ahasenack> it's something else here. "apt install phpmyadmin" doesn't pull in mysql-server, which makes sense, but it asks for the password and tries to connect to a mysql srever on localhost anyway
[20:04] <ahasenack> ok, so it's a 3 step process
[20:04] <Neo4> ahasenack: and after root password it ask about phpmyadmin?
[20:04] <ahasenack> apt install phpmyadmin <-- fails, abort
[20:04] <ahasenack> apt install mysql <-- works for mysql, but then phpmyadmin tries again, it also fails because mysql isn't running yet
[20:04] <ahasenack> apt -f install <-- now phpmyadmin can talk to mysql and is happy
[20:04] <Neo4> might your php can't create database, root misql need for to reach mysql database and create there something
[20:05] <Neo4> ahasenack: I use for mysql , apt-get mysql-service , it seems there not exists mysql
[20:05] <ahasenack> mysql-server, sorry
[20:05] <ahasenack> (in my second line of the 3 steps)
[20:05] <Neo4> ok
[20:06] <Neo4> I wrote shell script that install remove mysql phpmyadmin, only once ask
[20:06] <Neo4> and mysql you can't remove simply purge mysql*
[20:06] <ahasenack> so the right order would be "apt install mysql-server; apt install phpmyadmin"
[20:06] <ahasenack> that should work
[20:06] <ahasenack> can't install them at the same time
[20:07] <Neo4> if you use only purge mysql* and then will use pat-get install mysql-server it won't ask you about root
[20:07] <Neo4> yes
[20:07] <Neo4> mysql at first
[20:07] <Neo4> then phpmyadmin will create your own database in mysql
[20:07] <Neo4> you can't install phpmyadmin without mysql and if you remove mysql with database you phpmyadmin will broken
[20:08] <Neo4> you can't remove mysql and left phpmyadmin to be properly work without reinstall
[20:14] <teward> rbasak: can you peek at bug 1324062 and determine if the latest status and assignment changes were malicious / accidental / vandalism / stupidity?
[20:15] <teward> before I go with the proverbial hammer into #Launchpad and ask the guy doing those changes they did (twice in the past 24 hours) get squished / prohibited from accessing things
[20:16] <rbasak> teward: I've seen that person make a ton of unexplained metadata changes in the last day or so.
[20:16]  * rbasak looks
[20:16] <rbasak> Well by ton I mean four
[20:16] <rbasak> In two other bugs:
[20:16] <rbasak> bug 1077434 and bug 1232469
[20:16] <rbasak> And your one
[20:17] <rbasak> That's of the bugs I'm subscribed to
[20:17] <nacc> rbasak: hrm, if you can pastebin the errors on the bastion, I can try and help
[20:18] <rbasak> teward: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~farhn shows some more
[20:18] <rbasak> nacc: thanks, though I'm leaving it until tomorrow now. I reverted already, so I'll try to reproduce first.
[20:20] <teward> rbasak: I'll poke #launchpad then and ask for a blanket squish.
[20:20] <teward> that way they can't do much
[20:20] <rbasak> Thanks
[20:21] <nacc> rbasak: ah i wonder if the snapcraft being used in CI is a different version than the snapcraft being used by LP
[20:21] <rbasak> nacc: I wondered that.
[20:21] <rbasak> nacc: I noticed that the CI is using the deb
[20:22] <rbasak> With cleanbuild.
[20:22] <nacc> is LP using the snap?
[20:22] <rbasak> I haven't looked yet
[20:24] <nacc> rbasak: the error was the pygit2 import error (i'm seeing that on edge still)
[20:24] <rbasak> Yeah that sounds familiar
[20:24] <nacc> ok, i'm looking, this was someting (I thought) we had fixed alrady in snapcraft
[20:25] <nacc> rbasak: oh you meant you reverted in the store? or in master?
[20:25] <teward> rbasak: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/669500 for tracking
[20:25] <rbasak> I reverted on the bastion only
[20:25] <nacc> rbasak: oh locally, ok
[20:25] <teward> since #launchpad is dead
[20:26] <rbasak> I didn't see any way to revert in the store
[20:26] <rbasak> And I didn't think it deserved a revert in master as CI was broken before anyway
[20:26] <rbasak> And without knowing what broke it, it wasn't clear to me that reverting could fix it (eg. build environment change)
[20:26] <nacc> rbasak: you have to use snapcraft to do it, iirc
[20:26] <rbasak> s/could/would/
[20:27] <nacc> yeah i'm going to see if one thing i had done before fixes it
[20:27] <rbasak> nacc: thanks
[20:28] <nacc> rbasak: your revert of 3294bc6d6c93c8c76f953266f9665ede78c5937d was incomplete i think
[20:28] <nacc> rbasak: so there's an ordering issue now
[20:29] <rbasak> My revert?
[20:29] <nacc> rbasak: speifically http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T3nSB98vt5/
[20:34] <nacc> rbasak: yeah, from 48249b21607fdfbb80af9d53e8d0b1375d8778c1
[20:35] <nacc> rbasak: ok, i think i see the issue -- the _pygit2.so in the snap is linked to the core snap's libgpg-error
[20:35] <nacc>  libgpg-error.so.0 => /snap/core/current/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0 (0x00007f4630755000)
[20:35] <nacc> we definitely want that to be the one in the snap, as otherwise we'll get weird issues like this :)
[20:36] <nacc> i'll see if the ordering helps
[20:41] <ahasenack> rbasak: oh, this just started happening
[20:41] <ahasenack> $ git ubuntu clone unbound
[20:41] <ahasenack> ERROR:root:Is python3-pygit2 installed?
[20:41] <ahasenack> I did a clone not long ago, today
[20:41] <ahasenack> I got r428
[20:41] <ahasenack> yep, it updated about 10min ago
[20:42] <rbasak> ahasenack: see above. "snap revert" for now please. nacc is already investigating. I'll also take a look tomorrow.
[20:42] <ahasenack> and I do have python3-pygit2 installed, fwiw
[20:42] <ahasenack> ah, cool
[20:52] <ProCycle> How do I kill a running process if Ctrl+C doesn't work?
[20:57] <yee__>  hi guys, Should be very easy question for you guys. What are the main differences between Ubuntu server 18.04 “live” and “alternative”? Do they have different purposes?
[20:59] <dpb1> live == new fast image based installer.  alternative is the d-i based installer that has many more options
[21:00] <dpb1> tl;dr is, if you need raid, lvm *on your root disk*, or bonding, bridging, vlans *during installation*, you need the alternate installer
[21:06] <yee__> What is the cloud-init for?
[21:18] <yee__> what lan card ESX 6.5 drivers would be best fit with new ubuntu server?
[21:18] <ProCycle> Does the default not work?
[21:21] <Neo4> ProCycle: in command line kill id_of_process
[21:28] <dpb1> ... yee__ ok, are you mistaking irc with google?
[21:28] <dpb1> :)
[21:39] <nacc> rbasak: confirmed, the order fix does let self-test pass in a build i did locally, i'll submit an MP
[21:40] <ProCycle>  
[21:47] <nacc> rbasak: bah, well that was still on my old branch, verifying against master and will send an MP if it passes
[22:41] <Blueking> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gKc9Y7Y6x4/       intel ARK says mine cpu are 4 core..   seemingly I have only had 2 core since I bought mobo + cpu
[22:48] <nacc> rbasak: https://code.launchpad.net/~nacc/usd-importer/+git/usd-importer/+merge/346428 that passed against master here too
[22:48] <nacc> and ldd indicates the libgpg-error is the one we built, correctly
[22:56] <sarnold> CPU(s):                2
[22:56] <sarnold> Thread(s) per core:    2
[22:57] <sarnold> I wonder what this tool means by 'threads'..
[22:58] <nacc> i think that's `lscpu`
[22:58] <nacc> # logical CPUs = # sockets X cores per socket X threads per core
[23:01] <sarnold> what's /proc/cpuinfo say on this machine? I'm familiar with that one and expect results I can relate to :)
[23:02] <nacc> having just learned about it, `lstopo`/`hwloc` may give a better idea of what's going on and if your particular chip has disabled cores
[23:03] <sarnold> hah yes lstopo is good stuff