[04:22] <ErichEickmeyer> SlidingHorn: That post was back in 2005 when GNOME 2 was in its hayday. To play devil's advocate, it's hardly an exhibit in a debate simply due to its age, since the GNOME usability team could be totally different people now.
[04:23] <ErichEickmeyer> Though, I agree 100% with eylul on this one. A lot of the issue I can see is with software discoverability, and without categorizing it, I can see the GNOME applications overview becoming super cluttered with our software.
[04:24] <ErichEickmeyer> GNOME is more general-purpose, whereas most of our target audience (for lack of a better term) tends to want more customizability, which is something Xfce and Plasma are very good at.
[05:00] <ErichEickmeyer> Looks like Plasma is about to get even better: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade
[18:23]  * OvenWerks has realized that controls should work the same if a USB devices (or more than one) are plugged in at boot or plugged in later. He have amended the GUI to reflect this
[18:23] <OvenWerks> Now on to the daemon... (which will be harder)
[18:25] <OvenWerks> Well actually there is another change I want to make and that is what will be harder :)
[18:29] <OvenWerks> The GUI needs some cleanup though, there are unused functions in there and some functions are overly long and should be split into smaller functions for better readability maybe.
[18:32] <OvenWerks> The GUI also needs better and improved help. I am not convinces that pre-creating the help dialogs in glade is the best way of doing things. The audio tab at least will need a step by step instruction for at least first time setup.
[18:35] <OvenWerks> currently the apply configured settings saves the settings and does a restart. This should be changed to change only things that need to be changed without stopping jack (unless that is the config change)