[00:11] <RichardS> hi
[00:12] <RichardS> i've been using this distro the 18.04 for about it week now. it rocks.  even android studio runs well.
[00:13] <RichardS> my mom gave me an old sony vaio to try to get to work and i put this distro on it.
[00:14] <RichardS> 2GB ram and its still very fast.  the vaio has room for 2 more gb ram according to the diagnostics in memtest.
[00:15] <RichardS> this one also needs a new battery but those are inexpensive.
[11:50] <studio-user546> hello
[16:48] <steve> new ubuntu user sends greetings to all
[21:40] <kalebris_> greetings steve
[21:40] <kalebris_> admitting is the first step :):)
[22:59] <faahiero> hi guys! good night!
[23:33] <aloo_shu> afaik the highest supported ardour version in ubuntu is 4.6
[23:34] <aloo_shu> I can see why want wants to void the buggy 5 series
[23:34] <aloo_shu> *avoid
[23:34] <aloo_shu> but why noth 4.7, the latest release in the 4 series?
[23:35] <aloo_shu> *why one wants
[23:35] <aloo_shu> omg, my concentration for writing english seems at 0
[23:37] <ErichEickmeyer> 18.04 has 5.12.
[23:44] <aloo_shu> oh has it?
[23:47] <aloo_shu> I had done a pkg search, ErichEickmeyer and not found anything higher than 4.6, might have tried a week to early, let's repeat
[23:47] <aloo_shu> anyway, I still would like to know why the choice for 16.04 stayed at 4.6, not 4.7 - I am trying to put an environment with a "old but stable" philosophy together, that's why I'd be interested to know the reasons
[23:53] <ErichEickmeyer> It hasn't been backported. Ubuntu takes a "frozen repo" approach, and the newer software is found in newer versions of the OS. This is for the "old but stable" philosophy, yes. Our users that want the latest and greatest typically upgrade to the latest version of the OS, which as of a month ago was 18.04.
[23:53] <ErichEickmeyer> aloo_shu: You're not going to find 5.12 in any Ubuntu repo older than 18.04.
[23:54] <ErichEickmeyer> Much of our software also comes from a snapshot sync from Debian, so there's that too.
[23:54] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Do you have any better explanation for 16.04 being held at 4.6 instead of 4.7?
[23:55] <aloo_shu> just found out
[23:55] <aloo_shu> so there is no other reason that xenial stops at 4.6 than that this was the moment when the repos got 'frozen'?
[23:55] <ErichEickmeyer> Pretty much, and that 4.7 was never backported.
[23:56] <aloo_shu> related: does anybody (apart from falktx/kxstudio) do inofficial backporting?
[23:57] <ErichEickmeyer> That's something we're looking into, much like how Kubuntu unofficially backports using a PPA.
[23:57] <OvenWerks> there is a 5.0 for 15.04
[23:57] <aloo_shu> 15.04 was great
[23:57] <ErichEickmeyer> So, therefore, shouldn't 5.x be in 16.04?
[23:57] <aloo_shu> the only 'odd' one I tried
[23:57] <OvenWerks> fingers moved... 16.04
[23:57] <ErichEickmeyer> Ah.
[23:58] <aloo_shu> but ardour did a mad run of features over bugfixes in the 5 series
[23:58] <OvenWerks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/dev-testing
[23:58] <OvenWerks> that is not true. there were thousands of bug fixes through the 5.* series
[23:59] <OvenWerks> Ardour devs in general invite people to not use the 4.* series because of bugs
[23:59] <aloo_shu> e.g. there was a bug of crash when c & p ing regions that didn't get fixed until 5.9 or 5.10
[23:59] <OvenWerks> 18.04 has 5.12