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ubptgbotwrench wrench was added by: wrench wrench00:08
ubptgbot<wrench wrench> hey every one ive an old android s duos will ubuntu  touch will run on it00:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @wrench wrench, No00:12
ubptgbot<technicalbird> https://puri.sm/posts/june-1st-last-call-for-librem5-devkit/01:17
ubptgbot<technicalbird> So librem 5 is using I.MX 8 SOM.. @mariogrip will you get the kit??01:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> mmm i would hope so01:20
ubptgbot<wrench wrench> @vanyasem, thnkxxxxx;;0002:06
ubptgbot<Speed'n'Roll> someone has a Motorola g5 plus? I would love to have ubports on this device! I saw in the github of halium that they started to port it.05:02
ubptgbot<C3s@r> I05:09
ubptgbotmrtkhn was added by: mrtkhn05:24
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Speed'n'Roll, Often, the porting is being done by people who are very busy working toward 16.04 for Ubuntu Touch. So it slowed a bit06:30
ubptgbot<Stereofont> That device has had a lot of work for sure06:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @mrtkhn, MIMA welcome. Please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome06:32
ubptgbot<Speed'n'Roll> @Stereofont, thanks for answering. I will be patient then πŸ˜…06:32
ubptgbot<abhishek_01> (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/bxdpt0Ls.webp07:10
ubptgbot<budheswarbaghel> Can you recommend any sites where i can buy oneplus one08:15
ubptgbot<Flohack> @technicalbird, We probably will have more than 1 kit, hopefully ;)08:26
ubptgbot<Stereofont> That would depend on country. You should seek local advice08:26
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @Flohack, Good news... Hope UT runs directly without any issues on that😁😁😁08:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> @technicalbird, I expect some issues, but we shall see. First challenge is to boot it - Okay, but then, first challenge is to receive the test board haha08:33
ubptgbot<theReadOnly> @budheswarbaghel, eBay ?? I think πŸ€” you should wait for 16.04 as it is expected to come out on one plus 3 or 3T ..09:02
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @theReadOnly, If funds allow, that would be a sensible option09:16
ubptgbot<annalima> ood morning, I tried installing Ubuntu on my netbook, but I could not get with the bootable USB stick. Apparently my bios do not have function to enable the reading of the pendrive. Do you know of any solution or alternative to install Ubuntu?10:12
ubptgbot<annalima> [Edit] Good morning, I tried installing Ubuntu on my netbook, but I could not get with the bootable USB stick. Apparently my bios do not have function to enable the reading of the pendrive. Do you know of any solution or alternative to install Ubuntu?10:12
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @annalima, This group is about Ubuntu Touch10:14
ubptgbot<vanyasem> It has nothing to do with desktop ububtu10:14
ubptgbot<annalima> But it's not a desktop, it's a Netbook.10:15
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @annalima, It doesn't matter, you're in the wrong place10:16
ubptgbot<annalima> Kkkkkk10:17
ubptgbot<annalima> meu netbook Γ© um asus Transformer t10010:17
ubptgbot<annalima> Is tablet too10:17
ubptgbot<annalima> [Edit] My netbook is an asus Transformer t10010:17
ubptgbot<annalima> but ok, I will seek help somewhere else. thanks for nothing.10:18
ubptgbot<annalima> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ALaNEb9r.mp410:19
ubptgbot<G_Raffe> @annalima, Here's a guide for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDoP6h8TQw810:20
ubptgbot<G_Raffe> took 5 seconds in google10:20
ubptgbot<Flohack> @annalima, Please do understand that topic groups in general react like this if there are offtopic questions coming along. If you accidentially hit this situation, "I,m sorry, can you tell me where to go?" usually gets you further than insisting on a solution - the guys here are happy to help you as you can see on the link tha10:33
ubptgbott arrived later. Posting disturbing GIFs wont help you much10:33
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, I'm just following this group for the sake of it seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person.10:42
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They have high delusive expectations and no re10:44
ubptgbotspect when the truth unfolds.10:44
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group, for the sake of it, seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They have high delusive expectations and no10:45
ubptgbotrespect when the truth unfolds.10:45
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They have high delusive expectations and no respect when10:47
ubptgbot the truth unfolds.10:47
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They have high delusive expectations and no respect for10:48
ubptgbotpeople when the unreadable truth unfolds.10:48
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They have high delusive expectations and no respect f10:49
ubptgbotor people when the unreadable truth unfolds.10:49
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They do have high delusive expectations and no respec10:50
ubptgbott for clean people when the unreadable truth unfolds.10:50
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They do have high delusive expectations and no respec10:51
ubptgbott for clean/guiltless people when the unreadable truth unfolds.10:51
ubptgbot<Hasbreak> @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. πŸ˜’ They do have high delusive expectations and no respec10:58
ubptgbott for clean/guiltless people when the unreadable truth unfolds to them.10:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> Everyone could have handled that better11:01
ubptgbot<Jameshjacksonjr> @brrm, You may want to get a librem 5 from purism u will be able to run this OS as well as pureOS so u can compare and see what distro best suits your needs13:07
ubptgbotmarta thieleman was added by: marta thieleman13:19
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome marta !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.13:21
ubptgbotCarl Wheezer was added by: Carl Wheezer15:32
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Carl Wheezer, Hi Carl, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed15:34
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Well guys, i just got my N5, going to update the firmware first and then going to install ubpprts, 16.04 can be used as daily basis?15:34
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> Im having issues with Ubuntu touch on nexus 5; … My device isnt rooted and when I shut it down the screen isnt fully off15:35
gehidoreUniversalSuperBox since n5x supports multirom - I'm told - would this be something I could test in that fashion or is it better to just accept the device will likely be dedicated to such15:36
ubptgbot<advocatux> @jeremiasn, 15.04 ig you want your phone as a daily driver, 16.04 for testing and reporting bugs. It's not ready yet15:36
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Carl Wheezer, Can you explain what you mean with "My device isnt rooted"15:37
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Ok thanks so 15.0415:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> πŸ‘15:39
ubptgbot<advocatux> @jeremiasn, [Edit] 15.04 if you want your phone as a daily driver, 16.04 for testing and reporting bugs. It's not ready yet15:39
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Didn't know that you needed your phone to be rooted, i thought that was only for android right15:39
ubptgbot<advocatux> You don't need to root15:40
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> That's what i thought15:40
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, I used ubports Ubuntu app to install UT on nexus 5, for some reason secure is still on, also my device doesnt shut down, the screens still lightly lit with a black background15:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> What UT version?15:42
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @Carl Wheezer, (Secure boot)15:43
ubptgbot<advocatux> Carl if you set an alias on your telegram account it's easier to ping you15:44
ubptgbot<advocatux> and to invite you to other groups15:44
ubptgbot<advocatux> What UT version is running in your phone now?15:44
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, 15.04 stable15:46
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> 15.04 r3 (os build number)15:52
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @Carl Wheezer, Ubuntu 15.04 - armhf (2017218)15:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> @advocatux, well, not in Android, but by definition, if you install UT on your phone, your phone is rooted (jailbroken).16:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Carl Wheezer, this is only when you fully power off the phone, not when you just turn off the screen?16:06
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Yes, when I press the shut down button or power it off, it shuts off in 1 second but theres a glow coming from the screen16:09
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, To fully power it down I have to use the bootloader. … Also is 15.04 r3 the stable branch?16:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, 15.04 r3 is stable16:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> hmm, my n5 definitely is turning the screen/backlight off, but sometimes it does still look like the screen is "glowing" a bit16:17
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Also the battery drains pretty quickly too, not sure how to fix that, I read it was notifications16:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> well if your screen is actually not turning off, that will indeed cause the battery to drain very quickly16:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> there certainly used to be an issue on n5, but it has long since been fixed16:27
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is there a way to update it? … Yesterday was my first install16:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> well if you installed with ubports installer the 15.04 stable channel, you have the latest stable update already16:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> by "long ago" i mean the screen power off issue was an issue like 2 years ago16:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> so it's weird if you'd be seeing it and on ubports images16:31
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Should I just re download UB ports, then reimage my Nexus 5? … Also how do you use convergence?16:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> it might help, hard to say16:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> if by "convergence" you mean an external display, you need a Slimport adapter and bluetooth keyboard and mouse16:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> gehidore, I'd accept the sacrifice16:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Also, to ping people through tgBot use @ before the username16:44
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Carl Wheezer, UT devices are not rooted. You mean that your phone suspends but will not turn off?16:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Stereofont, you can't have UT and not have a "rooted" phone. but the term is not relevant because the whole android system image is replaced16:49
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, That πŸ˜„16:52
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Mines not rooted, but I did attempt to Root (when booted it has an unlocked symbol, but root checker said it wasn't rooted)16:52
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, No, it's off but the backlight is still on16:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Carl Wheezer, you mean an android app that checks if your phone is rooted from inside android?16:53
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Carl Wheezer, I wouldn't call that 'off'16:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> in UT you can run things as root, and the concept of root concerning android is no longer relevant. There is no "not rooted" in terms of UT.16:54
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Oh, so it's like a PC now? … Cause I thought I screwed up and it's not rooted. … Secure Boot is still enabled16:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, it's not like a PC16:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> the "secure boot" in bootloader has nothing to do with "rooted" in android16:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> rooted in android just means you went into developer options inside android and enabled "root" access16:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, it's not like a traditional PC, anyway16:59
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Do i need to unlock my n5 bootloader to install ubports using the installer ?17:04
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is your UT buggy? Because mine occasionally freezes or lags.17:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> @jeremiasn, yes17:05
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Thanks17:05
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @jeremiasn, Yes, but be careful because you'll lose all your data (did that yesterday, lost saves)17:06
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Yes thats no problem, is a brand new n517:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Carl Wheezer, well my nexus 5 is itself buggy, the wifi/bt don't work, and it's old and i think some touchscreen issues on it17:07
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Ok done, now installing ubports, so 15.04 right17:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> so i only really use it to test some things, rather than actually using it as a phone17:07
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is there a way to install lineage os or dual boot with UT?17:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can replace UT with lineage, sure. dual boot is not supported, no17:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Carl Wheezer, Some people have managed that but it is unstable and temporary17:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> at some point in the future, after 16.04 is stable, there will be an updated that provides anbox support, which should allow most android apps to work17:12
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, Do I need TWRP? There's no tutorials except from Android to Lineage. … UTs cool but too buggy17:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Carl Wheezer, for Lineage yes. you are replacing UT then, the same way as you'd replace stock android17:13
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Carl Wheezer, Sounds more like your particular device has problems17:13
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> The ubports installer didn't work on mac, it just stay on the screen after the phone got rebooted into the bootloader, however i rebooted my pc to windows and everything working great17:15
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @jeremiasn, πŸ‘17:18
ubptgbot<advocatux> Carl sorry, I had to leave for a while. Most of your questions has been answered, but I want to ask you if you used your Nexus 5 with Android before installing UT. Did it work well? I'm asking because Nexus 5 power button is notorius for its problems17:21
ubptgbot<advocatux> I'm using a Nexus 5 as a daily driver and I think it's pretty stable17:21
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Yes, it was nearly flawless except 2 issues (on stock android):  β€¦ - very rarely the screen turns off on its own, but that's fixed by restarting it. … - wifi occasionally drops for some reason (never the data) … But on UT; phone can't shut off, data didn't appear one time (on Android it would be the wifi, neve17:25
ubptgbotr data). … It's weird because I saw videos of UT on YouTube and it seemed stable. My device is in great condition but it's old17:25
ubptgbot<advocatux> @jeremiasn, Most of the problems with the installer in Mac is that your user can't see the needed tools (i.e. you need to set it in your `$PATH`). The quick solution is to run the installer with `sudo`17:26
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Should I just reinstall UT?17:26
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Carl Wheezer, APN settings are not always picked up automatically from your SIM. You may have to configure them manually17:28
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Carl it looks like a hardware problem to me. … Another question: was the Android installation up to date?17:28
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Yes17:29
ubptgbot<Stereofont> There are two versions of Nexus 5?17:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> Maybe we should move to the install group17:30
ubptgbotStason888 was added by: Stason88817:30
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Carl please set an alias in your telegram account, you can delete it later17:30
ubptgbot<Stason888> Hello, everybody!17:30
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Carl it is useful if you make a username in Telegram17:30
ubptgbot<Stereofont> πŸ˜ƒ17:30
ubptgbot<advocatux> :17:31
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] :)17:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hello Seven. Check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome17:31
ubptgbot<Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, How? I'm pretty new to this17:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> In Settings17:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It enables pings and invites17:32
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Stason888, Do you need any help here?17:33
ubptgbot<Tuxes> @Stereofont, Added a username17:35
ubptgbot<Stason888> I am using RaspberryPi with small touch screen and arm version of Ubuntu Mate. I am able to run xfce, lxde and plasma instead and was wondering, if it possible to connect some PPA to give a try to Ubuntu Touch17:38
ubptgbot<Stason888> Arm V717:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can run unity8 sure, but it'll be a slightly different experience than full UT on a phone/tablet might be17:40
ubptgbot<Stason888> @dohbee, Actually, I have 3g modem in modem-only mode and can call from it and recieve sms via asterisk. But Network Manager doesn't work at that moment. If I use NetworkManager, I can't call and recieve sms via asterisk+sip phone. So I wanted to try UbuntuTouch (it has inbuilt working ofono stack) to get full Mobile experie17:43
ubptgbotnce and UI for my 3.5" touch17:43
ubptgbot<Stason888> I want to have self-made open source phone intead of buing proprietary.17:45
ubptgbot<Stason888> Is there any PPA for arm? Or may give me info how can I try to install it on base of Arm Ubuntu version? I may use clean Ubuntu Snappy Core instead17:47
ubptgbot<Stason888> *instead of version with preinstalled DE and other repos17:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> the ubports repo should have arm builds i guess17:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> you definitely won't be able to run unity8 on a snappy core system17:52
ubptgbot<jeremiasn> Having one more issue with the installer, is giving adb push errir cannot start and a path to a file, no such file or directory on 0.1.13 beta, let me try other version17:54
ubptgbot<Stason888> @dohbee, I use snappy version with preinstalled Mate at this Moment and it runs pretty smooth on my resources. I am able to replace it with xfce or lxde, but kde plasma for example is too fat for me, I think the same problem with unity17:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you are running an ubuntu core based system, there's no option to run unity8. if you're running a deb-based system of ubuntu 16.04 for example, then you could add the ubports repository and install the unity8 stack17:57
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @jeremiasn, Try 0.1.1217:59
ubptgbot<Stason888> >if you're running a deb-based system of ubuntu 16.04 for example … this. I was unable to find info about repos, so wrote here18:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Stason888, https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools18:01
ubptgbot<Stason888> Thank you, there is indeed arm repo, I should give it a try http://repo.ubports.com/dists/xenial/main/binary-armhf/18:05
ubptgbot<Stereofont> The idea of a pi phone running UT was discussed here last year. I am sure there are others interested if you want to try18:06
ubptgbot<Stason888> Will it have look and feel of mobile ubuntutouch version (I have preinstalled and working drivers for touch screen) and ofono stack, or like desktop version?18:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> nobody has tested it on your hardware config, so can't answer that18:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It is a theoretical option18:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Maybe either18:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> but probably it will act like PC version by default because there is no device config to change the grid units value and such for your hardware18:08
ubptgbot<Stereofont> If you want to form a small group I think we would be fine with that. There is e.g. a Serval group18:08
ubptgbot<Stason888> @Stereofont, How can I do that?18:10
ubptgbot<Stason888> Or maybe there is existing group?18:11
ubptgbot<Stason888> Which I may join18:11
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Stason888, If there was we would know. Let me ask around and see if we can do something. There is no massive hurry18:12
ubptgbot<Stason888> @Stereofont, I agree) Ok, thx18:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> well a group with only one person would be pretty boring18:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> even a group with only three people is pretty boring :P18:13
ubptgbot<Stereofont> News Channel is good for that kind of stuff18:14
ubptgbot<Stason888> @dohbee, It is better when there is 3 people in the group, instead of trying different ways to make that (phone) in solo for a 2 months18:15
ubptgbot<Stason888> @dohbee, In non-working time of course18:15
ubptgbot<Stason888> @Stereofont, I'll give a try to that that repo at first18:18
ubptgbot<jonny> @Stason888, I have a raspy and would be curious, too. But I dont have a modem nor touch screen (yet)18:33
gehidore@UniversalSuperBox shame it's a bot that redirects to irc but then wants you to use twitter's fodderish tagging system :S18:35
gehidoresuch is life though18:35
gehidoreI'll see if I can nab this other n5x and dedicate one to it18:35
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @jonny, Maybe Stephen too, when he is not overly busy18:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @gehidore, Nah, that's just Telegram's way of tagging18:44
ubptgbot<Stason888> @jonny, Great to hear tha you are curious too. Actually, there are a few options to connect it, simplest - via gpio. But in common, all gpio modules provide voice+2g or 3g internet only (may be with gps), so I use Huawei e173 modem. But there may be some troubles with it, you should check that you have version with working v18:50
ubptgbotoice (Brazilian doesn't work), it must be unlocked and in modem-only mode. I've enabled voice features via AT commands (you may find it on internet or ask, nothing too hard) and changed imei to my imei of my ex android phone to work with my operator (he prohibits usage of my plan on non-mobile devices, but actually I need my sim card only on mobile18:50
ubptgbot device, but via modem)18:50
ubptgbot<Stason888> @jonny, And youll need to solder a few wires for modem not to be protuted if using usb18:53
ubptgbot<Stereofont> If others here are interested in thinking about pi with UT, wave your arms around18:59
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @Stereofont, The rpi?19:01
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B+19:01
ubptgbot<Jo_Led> @Stereofont, *waving arms around* I use a 3B with OpenELEC, I control it with Kodimote from UBports UT on my E5hd19:11
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/9Qx0tj7O.webp19:14
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> It'd give me an excuse to pick up another pi19:14
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> [Edit] I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B19:14
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> [Edit] I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B+19:14
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> Mooom give me some money for a pi(e)19:15
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> 😁19:15

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