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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:24
jibelGood morning06:26
oSoMoNsalut jibel06:27
didrocksgood morning06:34
dufluSault oSoMoN, jibel, didrocks06:36
dufluArgh06:36
dufluSalut06:36
dufluImbécile australien06:37
oSoMoNsalut didrocks06:38
oSoMoNsalut duflu06:38
oSoMoNyou're being too harsh with yourself06:38
dufluTo be fair, my dyslexia extends to all languages06:39
oSoMoNthat's only a typo, my brain hadn't even noticed it06:39
didrockshey duflu, oSoMoN06:39
seb128good morning desktopers06:58
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dufluMorning seb12807:14
seb128hey duflu, how are you?07:20
dufluseb128, going OK. There's still time to possibly land 3 shell/mutter fixes in one week :)07:21
dufluHow are you seb128?07:21
seb128duflu, I'm good, we had sunny weather which made for a nice w.e with walks, boat and bicycle :)07:25
dufluHeh. Three modes of transport minus planes, trains and automobiles07:25
seb128:)07:29
dufluOddly still nearing 30 degrees here, and winter is 1.5 weeks away07:34
dufluAlthough the forecast says it will cool before then07:34
Nafalloo/07:42
dufluHi Nafallo07:43
didrockshey Nafallo07:44
Nafalloitchy eyes are itchy this morning07:45
willcookemorning07:56
didrockshey willcooke07:58
dufluHi willcooke07:58
Laneymoin08:02
willcookemorning Laney08:02
dufluMorning Laney08:03
RAOFHey, ho!08:03
didrockshey Laney, RAOF!08:03
dufluHey RAOF08:05
seb128good morning u.k08:09
willcookehi seb12808:12
seb128hey willcooke, how are you?08:13
willcookeseb128 not bad.  How about you?08:13
Laneyhey willcooke duflu RAOF duflu seb128!08:14
seb128willcooke, I'm good thanks, had a nice w.e, but lot of activities & walking around so I'm happy to seat quietly at the desk today :)08:19
willcooke:)08:21
willcookeseb128, kenvandine[m][m] - would one of you mind running the meeting today?  I need to pop out at 1400 and I might not be back in time10:43
seb128willcooke, can do10:43
willcookethanks seb12810:43
seb128bounce me the status email you have?10:43
seb128np10:43
oSoMoNpopey, re https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/126 , can you point me to that 32 bits snap you build on amd64 ?12:22
ubot5-ngubuntu bug 126 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so built for "wrong" architecture" (comments: 0) [Open]12:22
ubot5Error: Ubuntu bug 126 could not be found12:22
popeyoSoMoN: not yet, it's on my hard drive12:22
popeyoSoMoN: think wine though.12:23
popeyoften someone will bundle wine (32-bit) in a snap with i386 libs, which installs and runs on amd6412:23
oSoMoNpopey, ok, so the desktop helpers part would need an optional parameter to tell it to cross build for x86, would that work?12:25
popeyI guess :)12:25
oSoMoNI wonder if there's an already existing, elegant way to pass a parameter to a cloud part in the yaml for use at build time12:26
popeythe golang part can take a parameter12:28
popeywhich go release you want12:28
popeydunno if that's any use to you12:28
oSoMoNI'll have a look at that, thanks12:35
oSoMoNthat go part uses the source-tag keyword to specify a go version, that's elegant for that use case, but I don't think that would work that well for specifying a target architecture12:52
oSoMoN"source-subdir" could possibly be used to that effect, but that's hackish at best12:54
kenvandineoSoMoN, ugh, that's an ugly issue13:05
oSoMoNyes13:05
oSoMoNthat's a bit of a corner case, but it would be nice to find a solution to it anyway13:06
kenvandineyeah13:06
kenvandineI assume there's a way to determine target arch during the build right?13:07
oSoMoNthe problem is, the target arch is amd64, but that amd64 snap contains a 32 bits app13:08
oSoMoNso it has to be specified by the embedder13:08
oSoMoNthere's no way the build system can guess the intent13:09
kenvandineyeah13:09
oSoMoN(that I can think of)13:09
kenvandinegood point13:09
* didrocks suggests just add an --arch arg to desktop-launch13:10
oSoMoNdidrocks, so build for both targets, and preload only the relevant so based on that arg?13:13
kenvandineor... since this is a corner case, just don't do the preload when --arch is used?13:14
kenvandineor make it --no-preload13:15
kenvandine:)13:15
oSoMoNkenvandine, it should be easy enough to cross-build that so for 32 bits, no?13:15
kenvandineprobably13:15
kenvandinebut then we need to pull in those libs for all builds13:15
didrocksyeah, tricky :/13:24
didrocksor… build a custom plugin refered by the remote part to handle the parameter13:25
andyrockhey all13:29
didrockshey andyrock, just in time for the meeting :)13:30
andyrockI just woke up13:30
andyrock8:30 here13:30
seb128hey andyrock!13:30
kenvandinemeeting time!13:31
andyrockI just need to be put at the end of the meeting13:31
kenvandine#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-2213:31
meetingologyMeeting started Tue May 22 13:31:47 2018 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick13:31
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kenvandineRoll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:32
oSoMoN\o13:32
seb128hey13:32
kenvandinewe'll move andyrock to the end13:32
andyrocko/13:32
didrockso/13:32
andyrockthx13:32
jibelo/13:32
kenvandine#topic dgadomski13:33
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dgadomskihey13:33
dgadomskisadly, again not much in the desktop area this week13:33
dgadomskieof13:33
kenvandinethx13:34
kenvandine#topic didrocks13:34
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didrocks4 days week13:34
didrocks* GNOME Shell:13:34
didrocks  - rebase volume above 100% patch set, a lot of conflicts due to (upstream changing all function() -> () and Lang.bind calls changed to object.bind…). Rested, (manually applying g-s-d patches) with various cases. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/2. Waiting for some reviews (just got few comments from a non upstream dev)13:34
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 2 in gnome-shell "Volume slider overdrive" (comments: 17) [Opened]13:34
didrocks  - rebase GNOME extension patch set. Same issues than above about conflicts. Retested the new Dbus API impact and various settings state (write-only keys and such…). Needs as well an upstream review: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/113:34
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 1 in gnome-shell "Better mode extension support: status sync and disabling." (comments: 2) [Opened]13:34
didrocks* Communitheme:13:34
didrocks  - continued discussions on the hub, both private/public. Help them on some topics.13:34
didrocks  - answered on communitheme-set-default, but still stuck… I'm getting a lot of user's pings and emails on various channels asking how to reset their default keys and have gdm using communitheme as a result.13:34
didrocks* Ubuntu Report:13:34
didrocks  - discuss what to log with j_ibel, answered questions and discuss new metrics to add to upgader.13:34
didrocks  - poke and discuss some inconsistencies in the data: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1771966.13:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1771966 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Time measurement in telemetry can be negative" [High,Triaged]13:34
didrocks  - added those new metrics and data fix on https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-release-upgrader/add_telemetry/+merge/345088. Still waiting for a rereview…13:34
didrocks  - fix an ubuntu-report bug for GPU info: https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/commit/70287d7531b81395ab4e010556809bea388fae1e13:34
didrocks* Ubuntu Make:13:34
didrocks  - sponsor a new release13:34
didrocks  - help fixing some integration tests issues found in autopktests and other issues in the release.13:34
didrocks  - move the integration tests from unity-based to gnome-shell based (still some work needed).13:34
didrocks  - guide for a new release and moving helper from adt to autopkgtests.13:34
didrocks* Misc:13:34
didrocks  - bug triaging like ubuntu-report13:34
didrocks  - settings priorities for this cycles13:34
didrocks.13:34
kenvandinethx13:35
kenvandine#topic duflu13:35
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kenvandine* Ubuntu 18.04 regressions:13:35
kenvandine  - [IN PROGRESS] Panel and menus are clipped when in zoom13:35
kenvandine(https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767648)13:35
kenvandine    . Partial/prerequisite fix proposed:13:35
kenvandine(https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/112). This makes13:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1767648 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Top bar and shell dialogs are not displayed properly when zoom is enabled" [Undecided,In progress]13:35
kenvandinean immediate (inefficient) workaround/fix possible, but I'm still13:35
kenvandineworking on finding a more efficient generalized fix instead...13:35
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint" (comments: 1) [Opened]13:35
kenvandine* PulseAudio:13:35
kenvandine  - Bluetooth audio skipping: After the upstream fix landed on 15 May13:35
kenvandineit was on my TODO list to get into distro. But Alberto unexpectedly13:35
kenvandinejumped in and did it already :D (https://launchpad.net/bugs/405294)13:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 405294 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "A2DP Bluetooth audio skips terribly ["Skipping NNN us (= MMM bytes) in audio stream"]" [High,In progress]13:35
kenvandine* Gnome Shell performance fixes:13:35
kenvandine  - [LANDED] Zoom performance fix in gnome-shell 3.29.213:35
kenvandine(https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/94101e8bb8).13:35
kenvandine  - [LANDED] Mipmapping (window previews) performance fix in13:35
kenvandinegnome-shell 3.29.2 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/c9c328354).13:35
kenvandine  - [IN PROGRESS] Minor polishing of the big performance branch13:35
kenvandine(https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73)13:36
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: backends/native: CRTCs now hold references to front buffers" (comments: 13) [Opened]13:36
kenvandine* Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes,13:36
kenvandinebluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.13:36
kenvandine  - No major news this week -13:36
kenvandinehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive13:36
kenvandine#topic jbicha13:36
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kenvandineok, we'll move on and check back with jbicha later13:37
kenvandine#topic jamesh13:37
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kenvandinesnapd/portals:13:37
kenvandine * the document-portal support branch got merged into snapd master.13:37
kenvandine * Still need to solve the xdg-document-portal auto-start issue, so at13:37
kenvandineleast one more PR needed here.13:37
kenvandinesnapd/evolution-data-server13:37
kenvandine * wrote and packaged some evolution-data-server test utilities based13:37
kenvandineon example code from manual (since EDS doesn't come with any ready13:38
kenvandinemade utilities)13:38
kenvandine * wrote spread test for contacts service, and am finishing up the13:38
kenvandinecalendar service spread test.13:38
kenvandine * Uploaded PR to get feedback from Spread on various backends:13:38
kenvandinehttps://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5184 -- I expect this to fail13:38
ubot5-ngsnapcore bug (Pull request) 5184 in snapd "[WIP] interfaces: add desktop-{contacts,calendar}-service interfaces" (comments: 0) [Open]13:38
kenvandinebecause I haven't uploaded an i386 build of test-snapd-eds yet, but am13:38
kenvandinemostly interested in seeing how well the spread test performs on other13:38
kenvandineamd64 backends.13:38
kenvandine#topic jibel/heber13:38
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jibel* Deployed automated installer and upgrader tests for Cosmic13:39
jibel* Migrated automated ubiquity tests to git13:39
jibel* Autopilot tests of Ubiquity are failing with bug 177175113:39
ubot5bug 1771751 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "autopilot tests - default installation fails in plugininstall with "permission denied" messages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177175113:39
jibel* Started work on ubuntu-report metrics.13:39
jibeleof13:39
kenvandinethx13:40
kenvandine#topic kenvandine13:40
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kenvandine* Provided a "Preview" version of the desktop-preinstalled hyperv image for publishing in the gallery13:40
kenvandine  - Properly running oem-config in a basic session mode, after completing oem-config xrdp starts which toggles enhanced session mode13:40
kenvandine  - Ubuntu Welcome now runs on first login as it should13:40
kenvandine  - Removed some polkitd rules provided by microsoft that should allow creating a color profile without prompting auth.  The rules cause polkitd to crash, we need to debug that further.  For now you get an auth prompt while creating the color profile13:40
kenvandine13:40
Laneystrrrrrrrrikkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee13:41
kenvandine:)13:41
kenvandine#topic laney13:42
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Laney• Been trying to get gdm session working under systemd, nearly there, also writing a new binary to do the environment setup / cleanup / unit starting (replacing the shell script)13:42
Laney• Uploaded patches for gdm login problem, seems there might be some further issues which Marco is looking at13:42
Laney• Reviewed / sponsored pkgbinarymangler with some dh_translations improvements for pkgs with multiple domains and stuff, thx Gunnar13:42
Laney• autopkgtest13:42
Laney∘ amqp went down again over the weekend, was OOM killed :(13:42
Laney∘ some migration that IS did broke our lxd (armhf) machine, tried a bit to fix it but in the end I re-deployed the machine13:42
Laney‣ this broke a few things, spent some time fixing those13:42
Laney∘ to catch up with the armhf backlog, deployed 3 new testing nodes, but there are some weird problems with the artful/bionic images, discussed those with xnox a bit - still pending a fix13:42
Laney‣ in the meantime I added some hacks to the setup routines to workaround those problems13:42
Laney🐈13:42
kenvandineLaney, thx13:42
kenvandine#topic oSoMoN13:43
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oSoMoNhey13:43
oSoMoN• firefox13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ confirmed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146288813:43
ubot5Mozilla bug 1462888 in Untriaged "Flareget addon not working on firefox.snap" [Normal,Unconfirmed]13:43
oSoMoN• chromium13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ got a working snap built from source, published to the candidate/from-source channel and issued a call for testing (https://community.ubuntu.com/t/intent-to-provide-chromium-as-a-snap-only/5987)13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ filed bug #177138013:43
ubot5bug 1771380 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] At first run on bionic, keyboard input is delayed by more than 10 seconds" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177138013:43
oSoMoN  ∘ filed and fixed bug #1771385 (https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/116)13:43
ubot5bug 1771385 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] 66.0.3359.170 in candidate channel renders fonts incorrectly" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177138513:43
ubot5-ngubuntu bug (Pull request) 116 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Include system-wide font configs in generated config file (LP: #1771385)." (comments: 0) [Closed]13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ updated stable to 66.0.3359.18113:43
oSoMoN  ∘ updated beta to 67.0.3396.4813:43
oSoMoN  ∘ updated dev to 68.0.3432.313:43
oSoMoN  ∘ filed and fixed bug #177184713:43
ubot5bug 1771847 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser.svg icon is outdated" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177184713:43
oSoMoN  ∘ confirmed and fixed bug #177203213:43
ubot5bug 1772032 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap /from-source] broken launcher" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177203213:43
oSoMoN• snaps13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ reviewed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/12013:43
ubot5-ngubuntu bug (Pull request) 120 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "common/desktop-exports: include EGL vendor dir on glvnd enabled systems" (comments: 1) [Open]13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ submitted https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5181, merged into snapd master13:43
ubot5-ngsnapcore bug (Pull request) 5181 in snapd "userd: add the "snap" scheme to the whitelist" (comments: 0) [Simple, Closed]13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ fixed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/125 (submitted https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/127)13:43
ubot5-ngubuntu bug 125 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so in root of my snap" (comments: 1) [Enhancement, Open] - Assigned to oSoMoN (Olivier)13:43
ubot5Error: Ubuntu bug 125 could not be found13:43
ubot5-ngubuntu bug (Pull request) 127 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Move bindtextdomain.so to $SNAP/lib/ (#125)" (comments: 0) [Open]13:43
oSoMoN  ∘ commented on https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/12613:43
ubot5-ngubuntu bug 126 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so built for "wrong" architecture" (comments: 1) [Open]13:43
ubot5Error: Ubuntu bug 126 could not be found13:43
oSoMoN🗿13:44
kenvandineoSoMoN, thx13:44
kenvandine#topic seb12813:44
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seb128• 1day off work (monday was a national holiday)13:44
seb128• still spent some time catching up with things after my week off13:44
seb128• discussed the plans for the cycle with the different team members13:44
seb128• looked at some translations issues13:44
seb128• discussed langpack updates strategy13:44
seb128• booked tickets for the sun sprint & GUADEC13:44
seb128</week>13:44
kenvandineseb128, thx13:45
kenvandine#topic tkamppeter13:45
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LaneySUNN SPRINTTTTTTTTTTT13:45
kenvandineTill was at a conference last week and traveling today13:45
kenvandine#topic trevinho13:45
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seb128Laney, :)13:45
seb128speaking of sun, where is Marco? ;)13:46
Trevinhocoming... :)13:46
kenvandine:)13:46
didrocksalways waiting the italians! :)13:46
Trevinhohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Bz8Tbl14/13:47
Trevinho· Spent most of the time at the GNOME Hackfest for performances13:47
Trevinho - Writing some writeup for that (public ones are now linked at)13:47
Trevinho   https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Performance201813:47
Trevinho· Fixed some bugs for gnome-shell input support on wayland:13:47
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/10913:47
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/10713:47
Trevinho· Booked the accommodation for the team at GUADEC13:47
Trevinho· Spent some time with debugging tools and performance toosl to analize data13:47
Trevinho· Some random fixes on gjs and gobject introspection13:47
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 109 in mutter "device-manager-evdev: Set and unset the stage for the main seat too" (comments: 0) [Opened]13:47
Trevinho· Looking into a st-label crash13:47
Trevinho· Looking at GDM refcounting issue13:47
ubot5-ngGNOME bug (Merge request) 107 in mutter "Inputless crash fix" (comments: 0) [Merged]13:47
Trevinho🙃13:47
kenvandine#topic robert_ancell13:47
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kenvandine- Fixed debconf handling in PackageKit13:48
kenvandine- Fixed buffer overruns in snapd-glib - causing GNOME Software crashes13:48
kenvandine- snapd-glib 1.40 release13:48
kenvandine- simple-scan 3.29.2 release13:48
kenvandine- Booked flights for GUADEC13:48
kenvandine#topic andyrock13:48
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andyrock* On holidays Friday and yesterday13:48
andyrock* Backported fix for LP: #1759468 in gnome-3-28 upstream13:48
andyrock* WIP: Added signout button to gnome-software (part of https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/62)13:48
andyrock* eow13:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1759468 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center (11) gtk_style_context_clear_property_cache → gtk_css_widget_node_update_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_validate_internal" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175946813:48
ubot5-ngCanonicalLtd bug 62 in desktop-design "Authentication in gnome-software using gnome-online-accounts" (comments: 21) [Priority: High, Review: Ux +1, Closed] - Assigned to matthewpaulthomas (Matthew Thomas)13:48
ubot5bug 62 in Launchpad itself "Maintainers can add themselves to the CC: list too" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6213:48
kenvandineandyrock, thx13:49
kenvandine#topic rls-bb-incoming13:49
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kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:49
seb128seems like nothing got tagged since previous week13:50
kenvandineyeah13:50
kenvandineand just the one that's marked incomplete13:50
kenvandinesurely there's more13:50
seb128should we review the unassigned ones on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html ?13:51
kenvandineyes13:51
Laneyalso the assigned ones...13:51
seb128the 49 ones?13:52
seb128I guess we can skip the fix commited13:52
seb128we better get started :p13:52
Laneywell maybe you want to do that out of the meeting like in a hangout or something13:53
seb128kenvandine?13:53
seb128right13:53
Laneybut on assigned ones, seems we dropped checking on those after the release13:53
kenvandinei'll get bug 934291 uploaded to bionic soon13:53
ubot5bug 934291 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu Bionic) "Deleting or stopping print jobs does not work" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93429113:53
seb128I'm a bit lost at what's the best way to deal with that list at this point13:53
Laneyhopefully notfixing gets them off the list13:53
Laneyeven if nominated13:53
seb128does anyone would prefer to review the list as a team or discuss some now?13:54
* didrocks looks quickly at the list, but it's hard to grasp, indeed13:54
seb128or should we just take an action to review/clean the list later in the week?13:54
kenvandineyeah13:54
kenvandinei think everyone should make an effort to do what they can to clean this before next week13:55
kenvandineand next week we go over everything that's left together13:55
kenvandineso if nobody cleans them up... we'll have a long meeting next week :)13:55
Laneywhat do you imagine happening there?13:55
kenvandinehopefully the fix committed drops off actually13:56
kenvandineand maybe move some to cosmic13:56
kenvandineif they aren't SRU candidates13:56
kenvandinedo we have a way to tag bugs for 18.04.1?13:57
Laney there's the milestone thing13:57
kenvandinei'm sure we do :)13:58
* didrocks wonders why some were fixed released and revert to Triaged without any info: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/176855713:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1768557 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update what's new graphic for Welcome to Ubuntu wizard" [Low,Triaged]13:58
Laneybut I dont' know how to use that very effectively13:58
jibelyou can set the milestone to 18.04.113:58
kenvandinemaybe that's what we should worry about13:58
didrocks(I guess that's comment #3, but not clear)13:58
seb128didrocks, comment #313:58
seb128right13:58
Laneyif it was me I'd have a hangout or something to blast through them all13:58
Laneymost don't look like very clear cut "not for bionic" candidates to me13:59
seb128we need to define exactly what we want the workflow/process to be13:59
seb128but willcooke is not around and I don't think we are going to achieve that  during the meeting13:59
seb128so let's schedule something later in the week to discuss that13:59
kenvandinei'm thinking we should try to narrow it down to candidates for 18.04.113:59
didrocks+113:59
kenvandineyeah13:59
kenvandine+113:59
kenvandine#topic aob14:00
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willcookeseb128, back14:00
willcooke+1 hangout14:00
willcookedoing it here will be painful14:00
seb128wb willcooke :)14:00
seb128willcooke, will also should define what the workflow should be and how we handle those14:00
willcookenod14:01
Laneynot sure I understand what the problem is apart from "someone" nominating things directly14:01
seb128I didn't make  my mind on the topic, but we might be able to follow better if we have the .1 team bugs in the trello board14:01
Laneyit's assigned bugs to fix in $release14:01
seb128we don't have a ".1 view" though14:02
Laneyok, maybe the milestone field can be exposed in that page then14:02
seb128that would be useful yes14:02
kenvandinethat would help14:02
seb128that's what the "target" column is supposed to be14:03
seb128we should milestone one to see if it works :p14:03
* seb128 does that14:03
Laneyvery good, problem solved14:04
seb128:)14:04
seb128k, AOB then?14:04
kenvandinenothing from me14:05
LaneyI'd be a bit wary of treating it as "bugs to fix" and "bugs to care about later" though14:05
Laneylike even if it isn't milestoned you still want people to be looking at their rls bugs14:05
kenvandineLaney, true14:05
Laneyotherwise they wouldn't be rls bugs14:05
Laneyif that makes sense14:06
seb128right14:06
kenvandinebut we need to prioritize 18.04.1 right?14:06
Laneyyes, relative priority maybe14:06
seb128do we still want to discuss that topic or any other? or should we wrap?14:09
kenvandineno other business?14:09
willcookeDoes the same time slot tomorrow work for you guys for a HO?14:10
willcookeWe wont get everyone14:10
willcookebut it seems like a good place to start14:10
kenvandinefor me yes14:10
didrocksshould do it, yes14:10
kenvandineok, that's a wrap for today then14:11
kenvandine#endmeeting14:11
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue May 22 14:11:25 2018 UTC.14:11
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-05-22-13.31.moin.txt14:11
didrocksthx!14:11
Laney#quality #meeting #guys14:11
seb128good meeting :)14:12
Laneyseb128: have you heard anything from foundations about working on that grub install fail bug you pinged them about in berlin?14:46
LaneyI get ubuntu-installer bugs and that one is getting many mails every day14:46
seb128Laney, Steve said it was on their backlog and would be fixed for .114:46
Laneyk14:46
seb128but it's non trivial and isn't going to be fixed in a week14:47
seb128they also don't plan to respin for it14:47
seb128Steve argued that things are not more buggy than they were, the error just leads to launchpad reports now14:48
LaneyI thought it was that there was a warning before14:48
seb128where before it leading to users being displayed confusing and useless dialogs which would also lead to an installation failure14:48
Laneyso you could go press cancel or whatever14:48
Laneyshrug, ok14:49
seb128right, but Steve said the warning was basically telling them "you are screwed"14:49
seb128or at least not explaining what needs to be done14:49
seb128or not guiding the user on being able to know what to do14:49
willcookenight all17:11
=== pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk
oSoMoNgood evening all17:41
Trevinhokenvandine: that's what I needed to do to move out from scriptlets though22:12
Trevinhohttps://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/commit/7f67da251e1a039b5ff9ee442c82c7aebc3fe22e22:12
Trevinhohowever I don't see how that could fix the thing of having an after-all part where we can perform all the install for generating caches and such22:13

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