[06:24] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:26] <jibel> Good morning
[06:27] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[06:34] <didrocks> good morning
[06:36] <duflu> Sault oSoMoN, jibel, didrocks
[06:36] <duflu> Argh
[06:36] <duflu> Salut
[06:37] <duflu> Imbécile australien
[06:38] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:38] <oSoMoN> salut duflu
[06:38] <oSoMoN> you're being too harsh with yourself
[06:39] <duflu> To be fair, my dyslexia extends to all languages
[06:39] <oSoMoN> that's only a typo, my brain hadn't even noticed it
[06:39] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN
[06:58] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:14] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:20] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:21] <duflu> seb128, going OK. There's still time to possibly land 3 shell/mutter fixes in one week :)
[07:21] <duflu> How are you seb128?
[07:25] <seb128> duflu, I'm good, we had sunny weather which made for a nice w.e with walks, boat and bicycle :)
[07:25] <duflu> Heh. Three modes of transport minus planes, trains and automobiles
[07:29] <seb128> :)
[07:34] <duflu> Oddly still nearing 30 degrees here, and winter is 1.5 weeks away
[07:34] <duflu> Although the forecast says it will cool before then
[07:42] <Nafallo> o/
[07:43] <duflu> Hi Nafallo
[07:44] <didrocks> hey Nafallo
[07:45] <Nafallo> itchy eyes are itchy this morning
[07:56] <willcooke> morning
[07:58] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:58] <duflu> Hi willcooke
[08:02] <Laney> moin
[08:02] <willcooke> morning Laney
[08:03] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:03] <RAOF> Hey, ho!
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney, RAOF!
[08:05] <duflu> Hey RAOF
[08:09] <seb128> good morning u.k
[08:12] <willcooke> hi seb128
[08:13] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you?
[08:13] <willcooke> seb128 not bad.  How about you?
[08:14] <Laney> hey willcooke duflu RAOF duflu seb128!
[08:19] <seb128> willcooke, I'm good thanks, had a nice w.e, but lot of activities & walking around so I'm happy to seat quietly at the desk today :)
[08:21] <willcooke> :)
[10:43] <willcooke> seb128, kenvandine[m][m] - would one of you mind running the meeting today?  I need to pop out at 1400 and I might not be back in time
[10:43] <seb128> willcooke, can do
[10:43] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[10:43] <seb128> bounce me the status email you have?
[10:43] <seb128> np
[12:22] <oSoMoN> popey, re https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/126 , can you point me to that 32 bits snap you build on amd64 ?
[12:22] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug 126 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so built for "wrong" architecture" (comments: 0) [Open]
[12:22] <popey> oSoMoN: not yet, it's on my hard drive
[12:23] <popey> oSoMoN: think wine though.
[12:23] <popey> often someone will bundle wine (32-bit) in a snap with i386 libs, which installs and runs on amd64
[12:25] <oSoMoN> popey, ok, so the desktop helpers part would need an optional parameter to tell it to cross build for x86, would that work?
[12:25] <popey> I guess :)
[12:26] <oSoMoN> I wonder if there's an already existing, elegant way to pass a parameter to a cloud part in the yaml for use at build time
[12:28] <popey> the golang part can take a parameter
[12:28] <popey> which go release you want
[12:28] <popey> dunno if that's any use to you
[12:35] <oSoMoN> I'll have a look at that, thanks
[12:52] <oSoMoN> that go part uses the source-tag keyword to specify a go version, that's elegant for that use case, but I don't think that would work that well for specifying a target architecture
[12:54] <oSoMoN> "source-subdir" could possibly be used to that effect, but that's hackish at best
[13:05] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, ugh, that's an ugly issue
[13:05] <oSoMoN> yes
[13:06] <oSoMoN> that's a bit of a corner case, but it would be nice to find a solution to it anyway
[13:06] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:07] <kenvandine> I assume there's a way to determine target arch during the build right?
[13:08] <oSoMoN> the problem is, the target arch is amd64, but that amd64 snap contains a 32 bits app
[13:08] <oSoMoN> so it has to be specified by the embedder
[13:09] <oSoMoN> there's no way the build system can guess the intent
[13:09] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:09] <oSoMoN> (that I can think of)
[13:09] <kenvandine> good point
[13:10]  * didrocks suggests just add an --arch arg to desktop-launch
[13:13] <oSoMoN> didrocks, so build for both targets, and preload only the relevant so based on that arg?
[13:14] <kenvandine> or... since this is a corner case, just don't do the preload when --arch is used?
[13:15] <kenvandine> or make it --no-preload
[13:15] <kenvandine> :)
[13:15] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, it should be easy enough to cross-build that so for 32 bits, no?
[13:15] <kenvandine> probably
[13:15] <kenvandine> but then we need to pull in those libs for all builds
[13:24] <didrocks> yeah, tricky :/
[13:25] <didrocks> or… build a custom plugin refered by the remote part to handle the parameter
[13:29] <andyrock> hey all
[13:30] <didrocks> hey andyrock, just in time for the meeting :)
[13:30] <andyrock> I just woke up
[13:30] <andyrock> 8:30 here
[13:30] <seb128> hey andyrock!
[13:31] <kenvandine> meeting time!
[13:31] <andyrock> I just need to be put at the end of the meeting
[13:31] <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-22
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 22 13:31:47 2018 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[13:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[13:32] <kenvandine> Roll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:32] <oSoMoN> \o
[13:32] <seb128> hey
[13:32] <kenvandine> we'll move andyrock to the end
[13:32] <andyrock> o/
[13:32] <didrocks> o/
[13:32] <andyrock> thx
[13:32] <jibel> o/
[13:33] <kenvandine> #topic dgadomski
[13:33] <dgadomski> hey
[13:33] <dgadomski> sadly, again not much in the desktop area this week
[13:33] <dgadomski> eof
[13:34] <kenvandine> thx
[13:34] <kenvandine> #topic didrocks
[13:34] <didrocks> 4 days week
[13:34] <didrocks> * GNOME Shell:
[13:34] <didrocks>   - rebase volume above 100% patch set, a lot of conflicts due to (upstream changing all function() -> () and Lang.bind calls changed to object.bind…). Rested, (manually applying g-s-d patches) with various cases. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/2. Waiting for some reviews (just got few comments from a non upstream dev)
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 2 in gnome-shell "Volume slider overdrive" (comments: 17) [Opened]
[13:34] <didrocks>   - rebase GNOME extension patch set. Same issues than above about conflicts. Retested the new Dbus API impact and various settings state (write-only keys and such…). Needs as well an upstream review: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/1
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 1 in gnome-shell "Better mode extension support: status sync and disabling." (comments: 2) [Opened]
[13:34] <didrocks> * Communitheme:
[13:34] <didrocks>   - continued discussions on the hub, both private/public. Help them on some topics.
[13:34] <didrocks>   - answered on communitheme-set-default, but still stuck… I'm getting a lot of user's pings and emails on various channels asking how to reset their default keys and have gdm using communitheme as a result.
[13:34] <didrocks> * Ubuntu Report:
[13:34] <didrocks>   - discuss what to log with j_ibel, answered questions and discuss new metrics to add to upgader.
[13:34] <didrocks>   - poke and discuss some inconsistencies in the data: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1771966.
[13:34] <didrocks>   - added those new metrics and data fix on https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-release-upgrader/add_telemetry/+merge/345088. Still waiting for a rereview…
[13:34] <didrocks>   - fix an ubuntu-report bug for GPU info: https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/commit/70287d7531b81395ab4e010556809bea388fae1e
[13:34] <didrocks> * Ubuntu Make:
[13:34] <didrocks>   - sponsor a new release
[13:34] <didrocks>   - help fixing some integration tests issues found in autopktests and other issues in the release.
[13:34] <didrocks>   - move the integration tests from unity-based to gnome-shell based (still some work needed).
[13:34] <didrocks>   - guide for a new release and moving helper from adt to autopkgtests.
[13:34] <didrocks> * Misc:
[13:34] <didrocks>   - bug triaging like ubuntu-report
[13:34] <didrocks>   - settings priorities for this cycles
[13:34] <didrocks> .
[13:35] <kenvandine> thx
[13:35] <kenvandine> #topic duflu
[13:35] <kenvandine> * Ubuntu 18.04 regressions:
[13:35] <kenvandine>   - [IN PROGRESS] Panel and menus are clipped when in zoom
[13:35] <kenvandine> (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767648)
[13:35] <kenvandine>     . Partial/prerequisite fix proposed:
[13:35] <kenvandine> (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/112). This makes
[13:35] <kenvandine> an immediate (inefficient) workaround/fix possible, but I'm still
[13:35] <kenvandine> working on finding a more efficient generalized fix instead...
[13:35] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint" (comments: 1) [Opened]
[13:35] <kenvandine> * PulseAudio:
[13:35] <kenvandine>   - Bluetooth audio skipping: After the upstream fix landed on 15 May
[13:35] <kenvandine> it was on my TODO list to get into distro. But Alberto unexpectedly
[13:35] <kenvandine> jumped in and did it already :D (https://launchpad.net/bugs/405294)
[13:35] <kenvandine> * Gnome Shell performance fixes:
[13:35] <kenvandine>   - [LANDED] Zoom performance fix in gnome-shell 3.29.2
[13:35] <kenvandine> (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/94101e8bb8).
[13:35] <kenvandine>   - [LANDED] Mipmapping (window previews) performance fix in
[13:35] <kenvandine> gnome-shell 3.29.2 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/c9c328354).
[13:35] <kenvandine>   - [IN PROGRESS] Minor polishing of the big performance branch
[13:36] <kenvandine> (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73)
[13:36] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: backends/native: CRTCs now hold references to front buffers" (comments: 13) [Opened]
[13:36] <kenvandine> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes,
[13:36] <kenvandine> bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
[13:36] <kenvandine>   - No major news this week -
[13:36] <kenvandine> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
[13:36] <kenvandine> #topic jbicha
[13:37] <kenvandine> ok, we'll move on and check back with jbicha later
[13:37] <kenvandine> #topic jamesh
[13:37] <kenvandine> snapd/portals:
[13:37] <kenvandine>  * the document-portal support branch got merged into snapd master.
[13:37] <kenvandine>  * Still need to solve the xdg-document-portal auto-start issue, so at
[13:37] <kenvandine> least one more PR needed here.
[13:37] <kenvandine> snapd/evolution-data-server
[13:37] <kenvandine>  * wrote and packaged some evolution-data-server test utilities based
[13:38] <kenvandine> on example code from manual (since EDS doesn't come with any ready
[13:38] <kenvandine> made utilities)
[13:38] <kenvandine>  * wrote spread test for contacts service, and am finishing up the
[13:38] <kenvandine> calendar service spread test.
[13:38] <kenvandine>  * Uploaded PR to get feedback from Spread on various backends:
[13:38] <kenvandine> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5184 -- I expect this to fail
[13:38] <ubot5-ng> snapcore bug (Pull request) 5184 in snapd "[WIP] interfaces: add desktop-{contacts,calendar}-service interfaces" (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:38] <kenvandine> because I haven't uploaded an i386 build of test-snapd-eds yet, but am
[13:38] <kenvandine> mostly interested in seeing how well the spread test performs on other
[13:38] <kenvandine> amd64 backends.
[13:38] <kenvandine> #topic jibel/heber
[13:39] <jibel> * Deployed automated installer and upgrader tests for Cosmic
[13:39] <jibel> * Migrated automated ubiquity tests to git
[13:39] <jibel> * Autopilot tests of Ubiquity are failing with bug 1771751
[13:39] <jibel> * Started work on ubuntu-report metrics.
[13:39] <jibel> eof
[13:40] <kenvandine> thx
[13:40] <kenvandine> #topic kenvandine
[13:40] <kenvandine> * Provided a "Preview" version of the desktop-preinstalled hyperv image for publishing in the gallery
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Properly running oem-config in a basic session mode, after completing oem-config xrdp starts which toggles enhanced session mode
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Ubuntu Welcome now runs on first login as it should
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Removed some polkitd rules provided by microsoft that should allow creating a color profile without prompting auth.  The rules cause polkitd to crash, we need to debug that further.  For now you get an auth prompt while creating the color profile
[13:40] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:41] <Laney> strrrrrrrrikkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:41] <kenvandine> :)
[13:42] <kenvandine> #topic laney
[13:42] <Laney> • Been trying to get gdm session working under systemd, nearly there, also writing a new binary to do the environment setup / cleanup / unit starting (replacing the shell script)
[13:42] <Laney> • Uploaded patches for gdm login problem, seems there might be some further issues which Marco is looking at
[13:42] <Laney> • Reviewed / sponsored pkgbinarymangler with some dh_translations improvements for pkgs with multiple domains and stuff, thx Gunnar
[13:42] <Laney> • autopkgtest
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ amqp went down again over the weekend, was OOM killed :(
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ some migration that IS did broke our lxd (armhf) machine, tried a bit to fix it but in the end I re-deployed the machine
[13:42] <Laney> ‣ this broke a few things, spent some time fixing those
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ to catch up with the armhf backlog, deployed 3 new testing nodes, but there are some weird problems with the artful/bionic images, discussed those with xnox a bit - still pending a fix
[13:42] <Laney> ‣ in the meantime I added some hacks to the setup routines to workaround those problems
[13:42] <Laney> 🐈
[13:42] <kenvandine> Laney, thx
[13:43] <kenvandine> #topic oSoMoN
[13:43] <oSoMoN> hey
[13:43] <oSoMoN> • firefox
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ confirmed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1462888
[13:43] <oSoMoN> • chromium
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ got a working snap built from source, published to the candidate/from-source channel and issued a call for testing (https://community.ubuntu.com/t/intent-to-provide-chromium-as-a-snap-only/5987)
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ filed bug #1771380
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ filed and fixed bug #1771385 (https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/116)
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 116 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Include system-wide font configs in generated config file (LP: #1771385)." (comments: 0) [Closed]
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated stable to 66.0.3359.181
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated beta to 67.0.3396.48
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ updated dev to 68.0.3432.3
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ filed and fixed bug #1771847
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ confirmed and fixed bug #1772032
[13:43] <oSoMoN> • snaps
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ reviewed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/120
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 120 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "common/desktop-exports: include EGL vendor dir on glvnd enabled systems" (comments: 1) [Open]
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ submitted https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5181, merged into snapd master
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> snapcore bug (Pull request) 5181 in snapd "userd: add the "snap" scheme to the whitelist" (comments: 0) [Simple, Closed]
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ fixed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/125 (submitted https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/127)
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug 125 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so in root of my snap" (comments: 1) [Enhancement, Open] - Assigned to oSoMoN (Olivier)
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 127 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Move bindtextdomain.so to $SNAP/lib/ (#125)" (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:43] <oSoMoN>   ∘ commented on https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/126
[13:43] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug 126 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "bindtextdomain.so built for "wrong" architecture" (comments: 1) [Open]
[13:44] <oSoMoN> 🗿
[13:44] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, thx
[13:44] <kenvandine> #topic seb128
[13:44] <seb128> • 1day off work (monday was a national holiday)
[13:44] <seb128> • still spent some time catching up with things after my week off
[13:44] <seb128> • discussed the plans for the cycle with the different team members
[13:44] <seb128> • looked at some translations issues
[13:44] <seb128> • discussed langpack updates strategy
[13:44] <seb128> • booked tickets for the sun sprint & GUADEC
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[13:45] <kenvandine> seb128, thx
[13:45] <kenvandine> #topic tkamppeter
[13:45] <Laney> SUNN SPRINTTTTTTTTTTT
[13:45] <kenvandine> Till was at a conference last week and traveling today
[13:45] <kenvandine> #topic trevinho
[13:45] <seb128> Laney, :)
[13:46] <seb128> speaking of sun, where is Marco? ;)
[13:46] <Trevinho> coming... :)
[13:46] <kenvandine> :)
[13:46] <didrocks> always waiting the italians! :)
[13:47] <Trevinho> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Bz8Tbl14/
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Spent most of the time at the GNOME Hackfest for performances
[13:47] <Trevinho>  - Writing some writeup for that (public ones are now linked at)
[13:47] <Trevinho>    https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Performance2018
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Fixed some bugs for gnome-shell input support on wayland:
[13:47] <Trevinho>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/109
[13:47] <Trevinho>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/107
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Booked the accommodation for the team at GUADEC
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Spent some time with debugging tools and performance toosl to analize data
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Some random fixes on gjs and gobject introspection
[13:47] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 109 in mutter "device-manager-evdev: Set and unset the stage for the main seat too" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Looking into a st-label crash
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Looking at GDM refcounting issue
[13:47] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 107 in mutter "Inputless crash fix" (comments: 0) [Merged]
[13:47] <Trevinho> 🙃
[13:47] <kenvandine> #topic robert_ancell
[13:48] <kenvandine> - Fixed debconf handling in PackageKit
[13:48] <kenvandine> - Fixed buffer overruns in snapd-glib - causing GNOME Software crashes
[13:48] <kenvandine> - snapd-glib 1.40 release
[13:48] <kenvandine> - simple-scan 3.29.2 release
[13:48] <kenvandine> - Booked flights for GUADEC
[13:48] <kenvandine> #topic andyrock
[13:48] <andyrock> * On holidays Friday and yesterday
[13:48] <andyrock> * Backported fix for LP: #1759468 in gnome-3-28 upstream
[13:48] <andyrock> * WIP: Added signout button to gnome-software (part of https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/62)
[13:48] <andyrock> * eow
[13:48] <ubot5-ng> CanonicalLtd bug 62 in desktop-design "Authentication in gnome-software using gnome-online-accounts" (comments: 21) [Priority: High, Review: Ux +1, Closed] - Assigned to matthewpaulthomas (Matthew Thomas)
[13:49] <kenvandine> andyrock, thx
[13:49] <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-incoming
[13:49] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:50] <seb128> seems like nothing got tagged since previous week
[13:50] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:50] <kenvandine> and just the one that's marked incomplete
[13:50] <kenvandine> surely there's more
[13:51] <seb128> should we review the unassigned ones on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html ?
[13:51] <kenvandine> yes
[13:51] <Laney> also the assigned ones...
[13:52] <seb128> the 49 ones?
[13:52] <seb128> I guess we can skip the fix commited
[13:52] <seb128> we better get started :p
[13:53] <Laney> well maybe you want to do that out of the meeting like in a hangout or something
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine?
[13:53] <seb128> right
[13:53] <Laney> but on assigned ones, seems we dropped checking on those after the release
[13:53] <kenvandine> i'll get bug 934291 uploaded to bionic soon
[13:53] <seb128> I'm a bit lost at what's the best way to deal with that list at this point
[13:53] <Laney> hopefully notfixing gets them off the list
[13:53] <Laney> even if nominated
[13:54] <seb128> does anyone would prefer to review the list as a team or discuss some now?
[13:54]  * didrocks looks quickly at the list, but it's hard to grasp, indeed
[13:54] <seb128> or should we just take an action to review/clean the list later in the week?
[13:54] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:55] <kenvandine> i think everyone should make an effort to do what they can to clean this before next week
[13:55] <kenvandine> and next week we go over everything that's left together
[13:55] <kenvandine> so if nobody cleans them up... we'll have a long meeting next week :)
[13:55] <Laney> what do you imagine happening there?
[13:56] <kenvandine> hopefully the fix committed drops off actually
[13:56] <kenvandine> and maybe move some to cosmic
[13:56] <kenvandine> if they aren't SRU candidates
[13:57] <kenvandine> do we have a way to tag bugs for 18.04.1?
[13:57] <Laney>  there's the milestone thing
[13:58] <kenvandine> i'm sure we do :)
[13:58]  * didrocks wonders why some were fixed released and revert to Triaged without any info: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1768557
[13:58] <Laney> but I dont' know how to use that very effectively
[13:58] <jibel> you can set the milestone to 18.04.1
[13:58] <kenvandine> maybe that's what we should worry about
[13:58] <didrocks> (I guess that's comment #3, but not clear)
[13:58] <seb128> didrocks, comment #3
[13:58] <seb128> right
[13:58] <Laney> if it was me I'd have a hangout or something to blast through them all
[13:59] <Laney> most don't look like very clear cut "not for bionic" candidates to me
[13:59] <seb128> we need to define exactly what we want the workflow/process to be
[13:59] <seb128> but willcooke is not around and I don't think we are going to achieve that  during the meeting
[13:59] <seb128> so let's schedule something later in the week to discuss that
[13:59] <kenvandine> i'm thinking we should try to narrow it down to candidates for 18.04.1
[13:59] <didrocks> +1
[13:59] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:59] <kenvandine> +1
[14:00] <kenvandine> #topic aob
[14:00] <willcooke> seb128, back
[14:00] <willcooke> +1 hangout
[14:00] <willcooke> doing it here will be painful
[14:00] <seb128> wb willcooke :)
[14:00] <seb128> willcooke, will also should define what the workflow should be and how we handle those
[14:01] <willcooke> nod
[14:01] <Laney> not sure I understand what the problem is apart from "someone" nominating things directly
[14:01] <seb128> I didn't make  my mind on the topic, but we might be able to follow better if we have the .1 team bugs in the trello board
[14:01] <Laney> it's assigned bugs to fix in $release
[14:02] <seb128> we don't have a ".1 view" though
[14:02] <Laney> ok, maybe the milestone field can be exposed in that page then
[14:02] <seb128> that would be useful yes
[14:02] <kenvandine> that would help
[14:03] <seb128> that's what the "target" column is supposed to be
[14:03] <seb128> we should milestone one to see if it works :p
[14:03]  * seb128 does that
[14:04] <Laney> very good, problem solved
[14:04] <seb128> :)
[14:04] <seb128> k, AOB then?
[14:05] <kenvandine> nothing from me
[14:05] <Laney> I'd be a bit wary of treating it as "bugs to fix" and "bugs to care about later" though
[14:05] <Laney> like even if it isn't milestoned you still want people to be looking at their rls bugs
[14:05] <kenvandine> Laney, true
[14:05] <Laney> otherwise they wouldn't be rls bugs
[14:06] <Laney> if that makes sense
[14:06] <seb128> right
[14:06] <kenvandine> but we need to prioritize 18.04.1 right?
[14:06] <Laney> yes, relative priority maybe
[14:09] <seb128> do we still want to discuss that topic or any other? or should we wrap?
[14:09] <kenvandine> no other business?
[14:10] <willcooke> Does the same time slot tomorrow work for you guys for a HO?
[14:10] <willcooke> We wont get everyone
[14:10] <willcooke> but it seems like a good place to start
[14:10] <kenvandine> for me yes
[14:10] <didrocks> should do it, yes
[14:11] <kenvandine> ok, that's a wrap for today then
[14:11] <kenvandine> #endmeeting
[14:11] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 22 14:11:25 2018 UTC.
[14:11] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-05-22-13.31.moin.txt
[14:11] <didrocks> thx!
[14:11] <Laney> #quality #meeting #guys
[14:12] <seb128> good meeting :)
[14:46] <Laney> seb128: have you heard anything from foundations about working on that grub install fail bug you pinged them about in berlin?
[14:46] <Laney> I get ubuntu-installer bugs and that one is getting many mails every day
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, Steve said it was on their backlog and would be fixed for .1
[14:46] <Laney> k
[14:47] <seb128> but it's non trivial and isn't going to be fixed in a week
[14:47] <seb128> they also don't plan to respin for it
[14:48] <seb128> Steve argued that things are not more buggy than they were, the error just leads to launchpad reports now
[14:48] <Laney> I thought it was that there was a warning before
[14:48] <seb128> where before it leading to users being displayed confusing and useless dialogs which would also lead to an installation failure
[14:48] <Laney> so you could go press cancel or whatever
[14:49] <Laney> shrug, ok
[14:49] <seb128> right, but Steve said the warning was basically telling them "you are screwed"
[14:49] <seb128> or at least not explaining what needs to be done
[14:49] <seb128> or not guiding the user on being able to know what to do
[17:11] <willcooke> night all
[17:41] <oSoMoN> good evening all
[22:12] <Trevinho> kenvandine: that's what I needed to do to move out from scriptlets though
[22:12] <Trevinho> https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/commit/7f67da251e1a039b5ff9ee442c82c7aebc3fe22e
[22:13] <Trevinho> however I don't see how that could fix the thing of having an after-all part where we can perform all the install for generating caches and such