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naccleftyfb: thoughts on how xirg's question in #ubuntu would fit our discussion00:15
nacc15:59 < xirg> hello, how can I synch my ubuntu "windows app" between 200:15
nacc              computers?00:15
nacc16:02 < xirg> ubuntu is available from the windows store00:15
nacc16:03 < xirg> to install inside the windows OS00:15
nacc16:03 < xirg> Two_Dogs, that's what i'm referring to00:15
daftykinsyou'd have to find out what is desired to be synced00:16
naccI suppose that's true00:16
oerheksueah, the 'app'.. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/ubuntu/9nblggh4msv600:17
oerheksterminal app00:17
oerheksthere is no support for desktop iirc .. but some do have that working00:18
daftykinsprobably a mistake to do too much with :) given the limitations00:18
daftykinsdon't really see any reason why rsync over SSH wouldn't be useful though00:18
naccbut the point would be they aren't syncing the 'app' then00:19
naccthey are syncing the ubuntu VM/container/whatever between two machines00:19
naccthe contents of, that is00:19
nacchow much do we educate stupid users in #ubuntu?00:19
nacc)00:19
nacc:)00:19
daftykinsoh yeah i misinterpreted the question, put too much focus on 'app' being a bad choice of word xD00:21
daftykinsalthough on a level it would achieve the same thing, rsyncing the entire root /00:22
daftykinsi've no idea if the root fs is stored in a disk image or similar00:22
daftykinsnacc: and far too much is the answer to that one ;D00:23
naccdaftykins: heh00:24
oerheksjippie, https://www.zdnet.com/article/spectre-chip-security-vulnerability-strikes-again-patches-incoming/00:58
daftykinsspectre-ng o'clock huh01:05
* daftykins clicks01:05
oerhekshttps://news.softpedia.com/news/red-hat-says-it-ll-soon-fix-the-speculative-store-bypass-security-vulnerability-521224.shtml01:06
oerheksit needs microcode i guess01:06
daftykinsyeah i heard one was coming - and that it may even take months to be in place o001:07
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ducassegood morning05:56
lordievaderGood morning06:01
ducassehi lordievader - all well today? had a good weekend?06:02
lordievaderHey ducasse06:02
lordievaderYes, a nice long weekend. What about you?06:02
ducassesame here. having really nice weather these days, blue skies and sunny, quite warm (~25°C).06:04
sky887Is ubuntu for dogs??06:04
sky887I love that06:08
BluesKajHi folks11:14
JimBuntuGreetings BluesKaj11:15
BluesKaj'Morning JimBuntu11:16
BluesKajseems very quiet in #ubuntu this morning11:23
JimBuntuYes, it does. I suppose that could be seen as a good thing... odd though, I wouldn't expect the 18.04 fuss to be slowing down yet11:24
BluesKajyeah, unusually quiet, maybe the grub/boot problems aren't as bad as previous releases11:27
JimBuntuof course, then there are a couple people, but I can't give them seasoned advice on those specific issues :-(11:30
BluesKajif he wants to compare ubuntu in a negative light to mint, then let him use mint12:54
SlidingHornmy thoughts exactly12:58
BluesKajthink i started a minor den=bate about 'my bad" in ##linux13:05
SlidingHornone can debate that?13:06
BluesKajone user called me pedantic, a favourite word in his limited vocabulary it seems...obviously doesn't know the correct definition ...people who use google as reference dictionary are misguided to say the least13:15
JimBuntuTo be fair, "my bad", is fairly common in the media/entertainment/&c.  While it's not proper English, it's not text speak or the like, either. I would rather not see people use it, but I think it's easy to understand the meaning of.13:19
* SlidingHorn uses it a lot, admittedly13:21
pragmaticenigmaWhat's the origin of the phrase 'My bad'?13:21
pragmaticenigmaThis slang term originated in about 1970. At that time, that is, pre the widespread use of the Internet, slang terms often circulated at street level for many years before being adopted by anyone who felt inclined to write them down. That's clearly not the case any longer of course and any word or phrase that is widely known is datable quite precisely via website logs.13:21
pragmaticenigmaThe first citation in print is C. Wielgus and A. Wolff's, 'Back-in-your-face Guide to Pick-up Basketball', 198613:21
pragmaticenigmaIt's pretty much common parlance now, I wouldn't get too hung up on it13:21
JimBuntuAhaha, online jive speak translator says "broken" is "bugger'd" in jive.13:27
pragmaticenigmaInteresting since the origins "bugger" aren't exactly something I'd expect modern day people to attribute to my bad13:29
JimBuntuNo, I wasn't looking up anything related to "my bad", I was simply playing with the jive translator.13:31
BluesKajwell it's grammatically incorrect for starters, since bad is an adjective and not a noun13:33
JimBuntucorrect13:36
BluesKajto me it's a rather childish attempt at sounding "cool", like baby talk almost13:38
SlidingHornleftyfb: I wouldn't expend too much energy on that one.  Their attitude sucks13:48
leftyfbI haven't seen that yet13:48
SlidingHornBluesKaj: language evolves...for better or for worse :/13:48
BluesKajSlidingHorn, we have to fight destructive evolution :-)13:51
JimBuntuFrance actually enacted new laws to slow/stop the invasion of English/American type words... one example was to stop saying email and call it 'electronic mail' in French13:52
JimBuntuhttps://www.geek.com/news/france-officially-bans-the-word-email-too-english-552584/13:53
BluesKaji don't disagree with that. Quebec also has "language laws", but they're at the expense of English speakers who can't read french13:54
JimBuntuAh, French-Canada, where there are double-size signs (to fit both languages)13:55
BluesKajnope13:59
BluesKajFrench is double size13:59
JimBuntutriple size then! I haven't been there in quite a while, memory is fading.14:02
JimBuntuI remember I took a train to some small(ish) town to get on a different train and I swear I could hardly find any English signs.14:03
hggdhbut languages do evolve, and words change meaning14:05
hggdhlike decimate (originally, to kill/eliminate 1/10th) now means utterly, almost completely destroy/kill/eliminate14:05
BluesKajmy daughter lives in Montreal and her french isn't the best . Most of the time she feels \like a second class citizen there, and she's seriously thinking of moving back to Ontario, altho housing here is much more expensive.14:06
JimBuntuBluesKaj, I too keep a text file for seldom used commands. I don't look at it much anymore, but when I do, I always have a gut feeling that I should remove the items I know very well now... and yet, I don't remove them, lol.14:06
JimBuntuhggdh, I do not like that either, decimate should always mean ~10% removed.14:06
hggdhyes, and I am with you there. But the language is not with us on that anymore...14:07
JimBuntuhggdh, same thing has happened to "a moment"... should be ~90 seconds.14:07
hggdhso, even with distaste, I now have stopped correcting people saying decimate14:08
BluesKajanother one is "impacted" instead of affected14:08
JimBuntuand the whole "affected" vs. "effected"14:08
hggdhwell, here a lot of people would use "effected", so ... :-)14:08
BluesKajor moving forwars rather than in the future, expression wise14:08
JimBuntuOh well... I guess it's time we become those "grumpy old men" hahaha14:09
BluesKajforward14:09
BluesKajJimBuntu, that i am :-)14:09
hggdhand here and hear, and there and their, and...14:09
JimBuntuI do shake my fist at people and things as it is14:09
hggdhbut this is -- right now -- pure ignorance. Until it actually changes due to use14:09
JimBuntuyour vs. you're is a meme now14:10
BluesKajsome one was talking about a hare brush the other day, but it was kind of funny so i didn't comment14:11
BluesKajit's and its14:11
hggdhBluesKaj: now you put the picture in my mind. Trying now to visualise a brush that jumps around14:12
JimBuntua "hare" brush... interesting, I guess that's what they use to groom their bunnies.14:12
BluesKajthat's an honest mistake14:13
hggdhbut these are normal errors. I think all of us have been there at least once14:13
hggdhthe problem is when they are repeated again and agaib14:13
BluesKajsometimes I don't bother with correction unless the mistake really irks me and if it looks deliberate in context14:15
hggdhthere is a radio program here (NPR, Way With Words) that discusses the English language and usage. Pretty good, and I listen to it whenever I can14:17
BluesKajhggdh, ok is there a particular time of day this program is aired?14:18
hggdhit is, for the record, US English, but the two working the program have a pretty good command of the language and words origins14:18
hggdhBluesKaj: hold on, I will get you the correct times14:18
JimBuntuhttps://www.waywordradio.org/14:19
hggdhyep14:19
BluesKajthanks hggdh , my reception of the Mount Pleasant Michigan NPR station isn't the greatest, so the podcast is a good alternative..bookmarking it14:24
hggdhBluesKaj: worth listening14:24
BluesKajyup, absolutely. I recall the PBS series a while back "The Story of English" . That was fascinating to me.14:27
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Bashing-omBe back later - have a 18.10 install to place irssi onto as well as other things to get it in shape to use :D21:15
Bashing-omMaking progress. 18.10 and irssi installed - configuring at this time :)21:36
naccdid we decide IntelCore was a troll?21:50
leftyfbno, he just rage-quits very easily21:56
leftyfbalso likes to offer bad advice21:56
naccand doesn't seem to use IRC correctly21:58
naccdoctor, i shot myself in the face and it hurts, is it a problem with the gun?22:29
* nacc doesn't have the patience for this22:29
JimBuntuyes, the gun wasn't fired enough times.22:36
oerheksi blame the ammo-vendor22:48
oerheks:-D22:50

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