[00:02] <nacc> aloo_shu: hrm? 'ubuntu' is never at a specific version. 16.04 has 4.6, but 18.04 has 5.12.0
[00:03] <nacc> aloo_shu: those packages are in universe and in sync with Debian in all releases
[00:03] <nacc> aloo_shu: so unless somoene has a driving bugfix that satisifies SRU policy, there won't be any version changes for existing version. If I had to make a blind guess, 4.7 didn't exist when 16.04 came out.
[00:05] <ner0x> Hello all. I'm attempting to set a keyboard shortcut for "go to the right/left workspace" and can't find it in the settings. I've been able to do this in previous versions. Recently installed Ubuntu 18.04; any suggestions?
[00:07] <aloo_shu> nacc: thx, I'm just getting updated at #ubuntustudio
[00:09] <nacc> timeless: you're building apt in order to debug why you don't have an ipv6 address in your container?
[00:24] <upupbb-user1> hey guys
[00:24] <upupbb-user1> i need help finding out a distribution like puppy but that is more secure
 insidious: try xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[00:24] <insidious> i did that now i can even use mouse or the keyboard
[00:25] <insidious> after rebooting.
[00:25] <nacc> upupbb-user1: not a topic for this channel
[00:25] <upupbb-user1> where can i find the answer what channel
[00:25] <nacc> upupbb-user1: possibly ##linux
[00:25] <nacc> !alis | upupbb-user1
[00:28] <aloo_shu> upupbb-user1: alis truncates lists un freenode afaik, but netsplit.de has a decent search feature.
[00:29] <upupbb-user1> holy megatron what do i do
[00:29] <aloo_shu> aah, you're on #puppylinux , good, more appropriate there
[00:29] <nacc> upupbb-user1: please take it elsewhere
[00:32] <insidious> ubuntu went to shit.
[00:32] <insidious> ;x
[00:32] <insidious> Nvidia issues, intel issues.
[00:33] <insidious> Need better devs
[00:33] <matjam> insidious: learn C
[00:33] <insidious> i know C and C++.
[00:33] <insidious> I also patched the kernel and drivers
[00:33] <insidious> still shit
[00:34] <insidious> ;x
[00:35] <insidious> I could of taught my girl how to use Arch in the amount of time i spent trying to get some bloated OS working.
[00:35] <chu> As this is a support channel, could you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:37] <insidious> Fair enough.
[00:38] <ntd> debian are updating vlc to v3 on stable, v2 couldn' be patched
[00:38] <ntd> i know vlc is universe, but it's vlc dammit
[00:39] <oerheks> !info vlc
[00:39] <oerheks> or use the snap
[00:39] <oerheks> and i find mpv much more reliable
[00:40] <ntd> snao
[00:41] <oerheks> snap install vlc
[00:41] <ntd> snap is a great idea, too bad canonical had to fuck it up with "store"/account
[00:41] <ntd> like they raspberry offerings
[00:41] <oerheks> oh please, stop that language
[00:42] <ntd> and those snaps be phoning home like crazy, like having a droid app installed
[00:42] <oerheks> this is ubuntu technical support, vent your rant elsewhere
[00:42] <ntd> anyway, xenial vlc is outdated and vulnerable
[00:43] <ntd> are there plans to do that deb did?
[00:47] <realies> getting "amdgpu: unknown parameter 'vm_fragment_size' ignored" after updating the system (including the kernel)
[00:47] <realies> any ideas how to set it to 9 again?
[00:50] <oerheks> grinn vlc 4 https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily
[00:57] <Syron> not sure who suggested this yesterday (name started with a g) but the suggestion that it could be a hostname issue on my firewall/gateway preventing me from remotely connecting to my ubuntu server was spot on. port forwarding, local firewall settings, everything else was fine. Thanks. I had no idea.
[01:03] <realies> how do i make sure i have installed the correct amdgpu driver?
[01:03] <realies> is there one in the kernel?
[01:03] <realies> modinfo amdgpu returns filename:       /lib/modules/4.13.0-41-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko
[01:04] <realies> that sounds like it's a driver from the kernel, no?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> realies: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver .
[01:06] <ntd> oerheks, i meant more like not having people using xenial until 2021 eol with unpatched vlc
[01:07] <Two_Dogs> realies: via terminal> inxi -Gxx ## good way to get all that graphics stuff in a nice clear dump
[01:07] <realies> what's xx?
[01:09] <Two_Dogs> realies: literal 'xx'
[01:09] <realies> Bashing-om, what is to see?
[01:09] <ledeni> Syron, maybe gogeta
[01:10] <realies> Two_Dogs, that lists the cards
[01:10] <Two_Dogs> realies: and the driver in use
[01:10] <realies>  drivers: ati,amdgpu (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,radeon)
[01:10] <realies> where the version?
[01:10] <Bashing-om> realies: How to determine your card .. and if the card is supported .
[01:10] <realies> Bashing-om, maybe read my question again...
[01:13] <Bashing-om> realies: once you know, one can run ' sudo lshw-C display ' to see what driver is loaded .
[01:14] <realies>  driver=amdgpu
[01:15] <realies> and modprobe amdgpu shows that the 'vm_fragment_size is not there
[01:15] <realies> 'vm_fragment_size' parameter
[01:15] <Syron> I think so
[01:15] <Syron> thanks
[01:17] <realies> can i set it so it uses the drivers i install from amd?
[01:17] <realies> not the kernel one
[01:20] <Two_Dogs> realies: the 'install from amd' should have done so, that is use what ever you installed
[01:21] <Two_Dogs> i only know of amdgpu-pro and you are not on it now realies
[01:23] <Two_Dogs> realies: checkout the install-log
[01:26] <realies> Two_Dogs where the install-log?
[01:27] <Two_Dogs> realies: no idea, the install instructions should mention intall log
[01:28] <RoadRunner> is there an advantage to btrfs vs ext4 for / partition?
[01:28] <realies> installing amdgpu-pro-17.40-492261 with ./amdgpu-pro-install --compute
[01:29] <RoadRunner> under 18.04 for general use...
[01:30] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: kinda yes, btrfs does snapshots of system so one could revert to the last good snapshot of system if something went really bad
[01:31] <realies> https://dpaste.de/DbG4/raw
[01:31] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: is it stable enough for "production" or still kinda experimental as compared to ext4?
[01:32] <realies> Two_Dogs and the /var/crash/amdgpu-pro-dkms.0.crash file contains http://ix.io/1b1J
[01:32] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i would call it stable
[01:32] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: yet, ubuntu still doesn't use it for a default install right?
[01:33] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: interesting
[01:34] <syborg> So I am running Ubuntu server edition as a desktop right now, any know of some configuration files I should tweak? I asked this yesterday but the channel wasn't super active
[01:34] <syborg> 18.04
[01:34] <realies> and /var/lib/dkms/amdgpu/17.40-492261/build/make.log is http://ix.io/1b1K
[01:35] <Two_Dogs> realies: yeap, your driver failed to build, look at the last line of log, i would share the log with what ever channel is amdgpu help channel
[01:36] <realies> Two_Dogs they're pretty dead on irc
[01:37] <guiverc> syborg, tweak for what?
[01:37] <syborg> just in general for desktop use guiverc
[01:37] <syborg> I'm not under the impression that there is anything I need to change, but couldn't hurt to ask.
[01:39] <guiverc> syborg, without any specific purpose in mind - i'm not aware of any
[01:39] <syborg> Fair. I went this route because kubuntu didn't want to boot, but server edition installed fine and installing kde did also
[01:39] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: also, since 18.04 uses a swap file instead of partition, I guess, that makes default use of btrfs a problem; so for now, if one goes with btrfs - they must pretty much go for a swap partition, am I right?
[01:39] <syborg> have to say it's pretty slick
[01:40] <realies> how can i revert back to 4.13.0-28?
[01:41] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i did know btrfs depended on a swap partition, although when i last plinked with btrfs i had a swap partition, i am gonna have to google that one
[01:41] <Bashing-om> realies: is the kernel still installed ' dpkg -l | grep kinux- ' ?
[01:41] <realies> running 4.13.0-41 right now
[01:41] <Bashing-om> linux-**
[01:41] <realies> it is
[01:42] <realies> http://ix.io/1b1L
[01:46] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: btrfs does not play well with swap files according to the btfrs wiki
[01:47] <longus_catus> A network interface with ipv6 using automatic-dhcp for ipv6 address assignment results in a default route as shown with ip -6 route.  Setting the interface up with /etc/network/interfaces as inet6 dhcp results in an ipv6 ip address, but no default router.  How do I make it work less bad?
[01:48] <realies> it seems i need to install 4.13.0-28 back as i purged it
[01:48] <realies> apt-get doesn't find it
[01:49] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: then it all boils down to whether btrfs is production ready; DragonFlyBSD for some time now have been implementing a snapshot fs called Hammer but they still keep "improving" it, so I don't know how "ready" is ready?
[01:50] <longus_catus> Ooops, it works with Network-Manager as "Automatic-DHCP" but I can't figure out how to make the dhclient version work "properly".....  clearly this router and neighbor discovery isn't good enough to say "Hey, I found a default router, let me put that in my routing table"
[01:51] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: yeap, ubuntu is not ready for btrfs
[01:52] <Two_Dogs> realies: you installed 'dkms' yes?
[01:52] <realies> Two_Dogs i do have it, yes
[01:52] <Two_Dogs> realies: ok
[01:52] <longus_catus> I just finished an arduous discovery of the internals of btrfs and finding some old root to rescue my files from.....which is actually what helped me get in this prediacment
[01:55] <RoadRunner> regarding swap file vs partition, contiguous sector use should still give the partition solution a performance advantage, yet file is now the default; is it because ubuntu targets an average (windows level) user for whom simplicity is more important - or am I missing something?
[01:56] <realies> Two_Dogs, how do i find 4.13.0-28 again?
[01:56] <syborg> RoadRunner, another advantage is better security if you encrypt your root partition
[01:56] <Two_Dogs> realies: what is it?
[01:57] <realies> kernel
[01:57] <realies> i need to revert to it so amdgpu-pro can build ok
[01:58] <RoadRunner> syborg: I think I read somewhere that if you encrypt the drive the swap partition will be as well?
[01:58] <Two_Dogs> realies: via synaptic search 4.13.0-28
[01:58] <realies> i dont hava gui
[01:58] <syborg> RoadRunner, if so that is news to me. Sounds cool if that is the case.
[01:58] <Two_Dogs> oh
[01:59] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude search 4.13.0-28  | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[02:00] <syborg>  RoadRunner, probably it puts a swap partition in encrypted LVM?
[02:02] <rud0lf> when i set in repositories setup "Source Code" enabled, it's just gonna make "apt source" available? no other operations such regular "apt install" will download the source?
[02:02] <RoadRunner> fsyborg: read so much today on this, my head is spinning... couldn't tell you where I got this from but I don't think it was due to LVM.  For an average user, not involved in, say, cutting edge software dev. is encryption really needed ?
[02:02] <Two_Dogs> realies: i assume you are using the generic linux image
[02:03] <syborg> RoadRunner, I'd say it is nice to have. "Needed" is relative.
[02:03] <syborg> If you have any confidential files it is a really good idea
[02:03] <syborg> IMO at least
[02:04] <RoadRunner> syborg: in that case it would be encryption of /home rather than / partition right?
[02:04] <syborg> RoadRunner, if you want to protect the files on your home partition, yeah. Assuming you have a separate home partition
[02:05] <mattfly> hi
[02:05] <oerheks> encrypted swap is fun with hybernate/sleep
[02:05] <longus_catus> I boot this one virtual machine using pv-grub which lets you unlock an encrypted volume before grub even appears, so no /boot is required
[02:06] <mattfly> Im trying to install ardour from kxstudio repositories but after installing the repository i have a problem
[02:06] <mattfly> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:06] <mattfly>  jackd : Depends: jackd2 but it is not going to be installed or
[02:06] <mattfly>                   jackd1 but it is not going to be installed
[02:06] <mattfly> this is ubuntu bionic
[02:06] <RoadRunner> oerheks: "fun" as in good luck with it :)?
[02:06] <mattfly> is there a way to use kxstudio repo instead of the default ardour and jack packages of ubuntu?
[02:06] <oerheks> no way to check the key
[02:07] <RoadRunner> syborg: I am just saying if /home is sep than, whatever is on / should be just standard system stuff of no interest to anyone
[02:07] <mattfly> because i had problems with the default ones trying to use jack and wanted to try the packages from kxstudio
[02:07] <longus_catus> Logs are on /var, which is on /.
[02:07] <lin__> hi
[02:08] <oerheks> Bionic gives 2/12 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ardour
[02:08] <syborg> sure, unless you want to get into paranoia territory RoadRunner 8-|
[02:08] <oerheks> 5/12
[02:08] <mattfly> i know but that does work oerheks
[02:08] <mattfly> not if you are trying to use jack
[02:09] <mattfly> i get the error unable to load envoriment if i use it
[02:09] <RoadRunner> would encrypting / make the system more hack resistant?
[02:09] <mattfly> should i report the bug? ....
[02:09] <syborg> yes
[02:09] <oerheks> kxstudio repo is unsupported here, mattfly, so we don't  do anything about a bug
[02:09] <syborg> it would make it more resistant to local attacks RoadRunner
[02:10] <mattfly> im talking about the link you just sent me
[02:10] <syborg> but the bootloader could still be compromised
[02:10] <mattfly> thats on official ubuntu repos
[02:10] <mattfly> and this is the reason why im trying the ones from kxstudio
[02:10] <oerheks> oh,.. you stated: > Im trying to install ardour from kxstudio repositories .. so what are you doing?
[02:11] <mattfly> i already tested the default ones
[02:11] <mattfly> result: did not work
[02:11] <RoadRunner> syborg: when you say local I assume from within LAN but does nothing to improve security from WAN?
[02:11] <oerheks> ardour and ubuntu-studio should work fine
[02:11] <mattfly> now trying alterntives
[02:11] <syborg> No RoadRunner, I actually mean physical access
[02:11] <aloo_shu> mattfly the kxstudio homepage has deb packages that you can download and install, they will add the kxstudio repos. check kxstudio page to see which ones you need (I e gcc5 .)
[02:11] <mattfly> jackd doesnt work on it
[02:11] <syborg> it doesn't make a difference over LAN or even WAN
[02:12] <syborg> an encrypted disk helps you because if I stole your computer I couldn't read the files. If it is unencrypted I can access them.
[02:12] <mattfly> exactly aloo_shu, but after doing it happened a mess
[02:12] <aloo_shu> mattfly after that, you should update the pkg lists, then kxstudio pkgs will take precedence over ubuntu pkgs, and you'll move in kxstudio's own depency world
[02:12] <mattfly> https://pastebin.com/yxcJjtAA
[02:12] <RoadRunner> syborg: with physical access, how much more can it achieve compared to just a secured login?
[02:13] <mattfly> ubuntu doesnt know where to fetch the packages from
[02:13] <mattfly> how to do that
[02:13] <syborg> RoadRunner, the secured login is basically irrelevant to someone with physical access. It prevents your OS from letting someone in, but if you boot to a different OS (like a live ubuntu) all the files are sitting there unprotected
[02:13] <aloo_shu> mattfly: ubuntu will say if kxstudio makes a mess, it's not their responsability. kxstudio is nearly a 1 man project, and since a few months, this 1 man has a full time job..
[02:14] <aloo_shu> mattfly: let me look
[02:14] <mattfly> "update the pkg lists" == apt update ???
[02:15] <aloo_shu> I think so, mattfly
[02:16] <RoadRunner> syborg: got it; but for those without anything obvious to hide, it probably creates yet another level of logins which are already likely driving an average user bonkers
[02:16] <aloo_shu> I usually use synaptic gui, which has been taken out of ubuntu iso but is available on repo, apt-get install synaptic. (apt install synaptic should also work), mattfly
[02:16] <oerheks> mattfly, disable that funny repo..
[02:16] <syborg> RoadRunner, what I like to do is encrypt my system, but then have it log my user in without a password. So I still only have to enter one. But yes, there is no avoiding the fact that it adds a layer of complexity.
[02:17] <mattfly> should i disable it? Oo
[02:17] <mattfly> apt upgrade is upgrading a lot now...
[02:17] <syborg> RoadRunner, everyone has something to hide. Identity theft is not a good thing.
[02:17] <mattfly> and using the kxstudio
[02:17] <mattfly> i just dont know if i will be able to install jack now
[02:17] <syborg> That is the minimum risk if someone accesses your personal files.
[02:18] <oerheks> i was going to tell you about jack and kernel, goodluck
[02:18] <mattfly> tell me?
[02:19] <mattfly> jack doesnt like generic kernels?
[02:19] <mattfly> i need to have ubuntu studio for this seriously
[02:19] <aloo_shu> oerheks: kxstudio is a little more than a 'funny repo' - it has enabled ubuntu users to get working audio production environments for years - which doesn't mean it cannot cause problems
[02:19] <RoadRunner> syborg: agreed, but in the scenario you are describing, someone will need to physically bread into my home to access my comp; in that case I'd have bigger issues to worry about :)
[02:20] <RoadRunner> *break
[02:20] <syborg> Indeed you do! But always better to fix the issues you can :)
[02:20] <syborg> or prevent
[02:21] <syborg> especially if you live around criminals who can break into your house with only a loaf of bread!
[02:21] <RoadRunner> is it easy to encrypt a partition like /home if originaly unecrypted?
[02:21] <aloo_shu> mattfly: jack per se doesn't like or dislike generic kernels, but in order to make the audio latency small and handle the audio card's irq's swiftly, it is recommended to use real time kernels or low latency (ubuntu's way) kernels. you don't need ubuntustudio to get the ubuntu low latency kernel
[02:22] <mattfly> okay but doesnt mean it should not work on normak kernels?
[02:22] <aloo_shu> mattfly: and if you would read up about linux audio and kxstudio, you'd know that
[02:22] <syborg> Not really, I'm pretty sure you would need to copy the old files, make an encrypted partition, then mount your current install from a live USB, chroot into it, update fstab and crypttab, reinstall grub and run mkinit-cpio (I think that's the command)
[02:23] <syborg> or update-grub at least
[02:23] <oerheks> audio-core https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta
[02:23] <realies> Two_Dogs, no output for aptitude search 4.13.0-28
[02:24] <realies> and yes, generic kernel
[02:24] <syborg> RoadRunner, there might be tools that make it easier, maybe? I have never tried.
[02:25] <syborg> *mkinitramfs, that is the command I meant
[02:25] <syborg> also you would need two passwords in this case to be secure, since my approach with one password assumes encrypted root
[02:25] <aloo_shu> mattfly: jack works with normal kernels, but afaik and iirc , the jack pkgs from the kxstudio repo do force some irq handling stuff that will only work on low latency/rt kernels with threadirqs
[02:26] <mattfly> aw no :(
[02:26] <oerheks> jups, else you are limited to 2 channels iirc
[02:26] <RoadRunner> syborg: so if home is encrypted, do you have to do a 2nd login every time you access anything on it with any app?
[02:26] <syborg> nope, just on login
[02:26] <syborg> *boot up
[02:26] <aloo_shu> nothing to do with channels. oerheks mattfly
[02:27] <mattfly> the normal packages werent already working so the chances of that are even lower.... i saw on ardour forum using kxstudio was recommended for the problem i had after googling for it....
[02:27] <syborg> if you have encrypted root as well then the one password to decrypt is fine
[02:27] <mattfly> well ardour is almost finished installing, lets hope....
[02:27] <aloo_shu> just will have to use very generous tencies and large buffers not to have buffer overruns (xruns)
[02:27] <i_heart_penguins> anyone know how to bookmark a device in nautilus?
[02:28] <mattfly> Aw by the way does anyone here uses nvidia 390 driver on a laptop/notebook ?
[02:28] <wuzamarine> my gnome-terminal won't open in the gui (no error in logs) and using the command line I get  https://bpaste.net/show/906f24e33757
[02:29] <RoadRunner> syborg: so to be clear, if all is on one partition- /, then just one login in the beginning, but if only /home is encrypted  then have to login when accessing home at any point after boot?
[02:29] <oerheks> gnome-terminal won't open from gnome-terminal ?
[02:29] <mattfly> i have exactly the same problem with ardour again from the kxstudio.... "unable to load envoriment"
[02:29] <oerheks> oh boy
[02:29] <i_heart_penguins> wuzamarine: you tried a reinstall? sudo apt install gnome-terminal?
[02:29] <aloo_shu> mattfly , your output said you have broken dependencies - you'd best locate these and deal with them. again, my tool to not have to do it all with command line fu, would be synaptic - apt-get install synaptic , then run synaptic from the menu, it should have an entry now
[02:30] <i_heart_penguins> wuzamarine: nm, i just realized the irony of that
[02:30] <syborg> No no RoadRunner, you only have to decrypt the partitions once, on boot. That is the only time in general that you would need to enter two passwords.
[02:30] <wuzamarine> i_heart_penguins: yes. and I have a couple of other programs doing the same. like print manager won't open
[02:30] <i_heart_penguins> download another terminal to install gnome-terminal or use ubuntu's gui software installer
[02:30] <syborg> After that, the decrypted devices act like normal unencrypted devices until you unmount them
[02:30] <aloo_shu> mattfly: do you have much data or things of importance on your install?
[02:30] <mattfly> aloo_shu broken packages were solved after apt update; apt upgrade
[02:31] <aloo_shu> ah
[02:31] <wuzamarine> i_heart_penguins: it doesn't help my print manager, or other apps doing the same.
[02:31] <realies> how do i revert back to 4.13.0-28??
[02:31] <RoadRunner> syborg: so no time limit with access to encrypted partitions like with sudo?
[02:31] <wuzamarine> gnome-terminal was just a first pick
[02:32] <doug16k> graphitemaster, hey I just noticed something interesting in vmlaunch instruction docs: ELSIF events are being blocked by MOV SS then VMfailValid(VM entry with events blocked by MOV SS);
[02:32] <syborg> Nope RoadRunner, after you decrypt the device there is no time limit.
[02:32] <doug16k> oops wrong room
[02:32] <mattfly> well having this software isnt the most important thing to me so i would rather no reinstall ubuntu, but i could install another in dual boot for sake of testing and bug hunting aloo_shu
[02:32] <mattfly> if thats what you mean
[02:32] <RoadRunner> syborg: does it take a long time to decrypt, say 20GB?
[02:33] <syborg> Not at all RoadRunner, the overhead is not noticeable on modern hardware.
[02:33] <RoadRunner> syborg: my boxes are core 2 duo's (ie: not so modern...)
[02:33] <syborg> RoadRunner, I'm sure it would be fine
[02:34] <realies> i have purged the 4.13.0-28 kernel but need to get back on it, how can i do so?
[02:34] <syborg> it doesn't decrypt every file on the disk, it decrypts the encryption key with your password and then decrypts/encrypts on the fly from then on
[02:35] <aloo_shu> mattfly: yes, that was what I meant. Candidates could be ubuntustudio, kxstudio as a distro, not a repo, or avlinux
[02:35] <syborg> basically you unlock the disk with your password, and then write and read to it a little slower than normal (because encryption/decryption has to take place)
[02:36] <syborg> So the size of the disk should not matter
[02:36] <mattfly> aw but id rather on have it on the same os..... man :/
[02:36] <RoadRunner> ok; got another question:  any advantage to install Ubuntu on a GPT disk?
[02:37] <syborg> GPT is more modern and doesn't limit the number of partitions or the size of disks you can use. If you want to dual boot with Windows you will need GPT/UEFI for 10, and I think 8. Maybe even 7. But MBR/BIOS is still functional
[02:39] <tsarompy> i dont have anything to add
[02:40] <tsarompy> i just wanna say that kubuntu gutsy gibbon was one of the greatest operating systems of all time
[02:40] <realies> Two_Dogs still around?
[02:40]  * tsarompy bows and walks away from keyboard
[02:41] <RoadRunner> syborg: in my case, the drives are not over 2TB, and 4 partitions is enough; also, am wondering about the concept of "globally unique identifiers" sounds like an attempt by the "big brother" to look in...
[02:42] <syborg> lol I dunno about that RoadRunner, there are plenty of more effective ways to spy on you than the UUIDs of your partitions
[02:42] <syborg> UUIDs are actually quite useful
[02:43] <syborg> they are beneficial because you can refer to a device in fstab as UUID="whatever" instead of /dev/sd[x][n] (the second can change, the first never will)
[02:44] <syborg> for instance your MAC address is also meant to be unique, and it is more visible than your partition's UUIDs
[02:45] <syborg> and your browser can be fingerprinted by any website you visit, in addition to many other tracking techniques.
[02:46] <realies> aptitude is not finding 4.13.0-28, is there a place i can download that kernel from?
[02:46] <RoadRunner> syborg: do go on :)
[02:46] <syborg> heh
[02:47] <realies> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ does not have 4.13
[02:47] <syborg> well if you carry a cell phone it is basically a moot point, that thing *is* a tracking device
[02:47] <syborg> so no worries about big brother being able to track you :-)
[02:47] <oerheks> grinn .. https://www.zdnet.com/article/spectre-chip-security-vulnerability-strikes-again-patches-incoming/
[02:47] <RoadRunner> syborg: no worries  indeed - don't carry a cell phone :)
[02:48] <oerheks> don't leave stuff on your machine, and don' t use the internet
[02:48] <RoadRunner> oerheks: already started training pidgins :) :)
[02:48] <syborg> well I still think you are in no greater danger of tracking by using GPT/UEFI =P
[02:50] <realies> any ideas why aptitude finds  4.13.0-25 and  4.13.0-26 but not  4.13.0-27 and  4.13.0-28?
[02:50] <RoadRunner> seriously though, in my case, as I see it, the main advantage to me is the more robust booting method than the boot sector of an MBR; but that never failed me in over 2 decades of using HD's
[02:51] <syborg> Honestly, I am not aware of any compelling reason to switch for now in a case like yours. It might be less well supported than GPT in a decade or two.
[02:53] <addyt> t
[02:53] <RoadRunner> would gpt disk setup even work with older bioses like mine?
[02:54] <i_heart_penguins> anyone using polari irc client? it's not autoscrolling
[02:54] <syborg> I know it has some backwards compatibility. If you were curious, you could always try to create a GPT/UEFI install on a thumbdrive
[02:56] <RoadRunner> syborg: how would I go about that?
[02:57] <syborg> RoadRunner, you would just create a live ubuntu install on one USB stick, boot to it, then install to the thumbdrive from the installer (which may require you to partition manually). If you are worried about nuking your current install you could disconnect your hard drive from the motherboard before doing so.
[02:57] <syborg> to be clear, you would be installing to a second thumb drive.
[02:58] <syborg> I just did this the other day in fact, although I used a MSDOS/BIOS install for max compatibility
[02:59] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: See what Rod Smith says: https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/bios.html .
[03:02] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: thank you, much material there - will take me a while to digest but in a nutshell: you don't need to change settings in your bios to boot into this new thing?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: I too run old hardware, and in installing SSDs on this box I declined to try and see if this old bios of mine would support GPT.
[03:06] <RoadRunner> something to try in my spare time ;)
[03:08] <JoshDL> Hi there; I just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, and now nautilus can't open files normally; when I open a file in nautilus, it just opens the file's containing folder, every time.
[03:08] <JoshDL> (which means it essentially just refreshes the folder I'm in)
[03:09] <JoshDL> If I use "open with..." and choose an application, that works fine, but any other mechanism of opening the file (double click, return, right click
[03:09] <JoshDL> ...right click "open") just causes the file's containing folder to be opened, instead
[03:10] <syborg> JoshDL, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it?
[03:11] <JoshDL> yes, including with --purge, and also manually deleting its configuration data under .config and .local
[03:11] <syborg> hmm, annoying. Sounds like a bug to me. You could install another file browser for the short term
[03:11] <syborg> and maybe file a bug report?
[03:11] <RoadRunner> regarding the wisdom of having sepparate /boot or /sbin partitions for emergency recovery, what's the current thinking is it worth it?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> JoshDL: files requiring sudo to open ? try as ' nautilus admin:///your-file ' .
[03:12] <syborg> assuming nobody else has a solution anyway JoshDL.
[03:12] <ph88> what happened to nautilus-actions from ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04 ?
[03:13] <JoshDL> I don't understand, Bashing; what does this have to do with root?
[03:13] <syborg> RoadRunner, no idea on that one
[03:13] <JoshDL> this affects files regardless of type--text files, video files, PDFs, you name it; the "open" action is just broken
[03:14] <Bashing-om> JoshDL: gksudo is no longer supported . pkexec is the new kid on the block .
[03:14] <JoshDL> I never use gksudo
[03:15] <gogeta> Bashing-om: i cant hear you. i cant hear you lalalala
[03:15] <gogeta> Bashing-om: lol always with the changes
[03:23] <RoadRunner> was told that if there is a filesystem problem with /, having a separate /boot will get me to fsck but got to know how to fix with fsck and
[03:23] <RoadRunner> having a sep /boot can overfill with old kernells and as this already happened to me, don't know which is more likely to screw me up in the future...
[03:23] <RoadRunner>  
[03:24] <cfhowlett> RoadRunner, so delete the old kernels?  on a regular basis.
[03:24] <syborg> The first thing you said sounds true, but you can do that from a live USB as well. And I can attest to the second
[03:24] <syborg> cfhowlett, do you know the rationale as to why they don't get automatically cleaned up?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: consider, A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> syborg, system protection from over enthusiastic users IIRC
[03:25] <Two_Dogs> JoshDL: do you see anything related to nautilus in .xession-errors?
[03:26] <JoshDL> (nautilus:1906): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 21:31:07.268: g_object_ref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[03:26] <RoadRunner> so, I take it, the consensus today is against a sepparate /boot :)
[03:26] <JoshDL> nothing new is printed each time I attempt to open a file, though
[03:27] <syborg> I have a separate boot partition due to an encrypted root partition
[03:27] <cfhowlett> RoadRunner, separate /home makes perfect since.  Sep /boot seems way to exotic IMHO.  YMMV.
[03:28] <JoshDL> running nautilus from the terminal also reveals nothing
[03:28] <JoshDL> it seems to really just want to open the file's containing folder instead of opening the file
[03:28] <JoshDL> for instance, if I run a search and attempt to open a file, it will launch a new nautilus window containing the file
[03:29] <JoshDL> even when I click, eg, "
[03:29] <JoshDL> "open with image viewer"
[03:30] <JoshDL> aha! https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=874003
[03:31] <RoadRunner> re: sepparate /sbin: "If any of your partitions or drives should fail, then this directory / partition will be the one that most likely contains the tools you will need to repair it " [source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace]
[03:31] <cfhowlett> since 2017?  seems to be a low priority issue
[03:33] <JoshDL> yeah; not as if people use nautilus to browse their systems and open files
[03:33] <JoshDL> kind of like it'd be silly to know what files totem was playing; glad we got rid of the playlist widget
[03:36] <RoadRunner> so what's the feeling on /sbin?
[03:36] <RoadRunner> or again it is considered easier to repair from a live cd?
[03:37] <Two_Dogs> JoshDL: can you use the fix shown?
[03:37] <JoshDL> anyway, as mentioned in that bug, the fix is to remove/rename .config/xfce4/helpers.rc
[03:37] <cfhowlett> JoshDL, wait what?  are you on ubuntu/xubuntu?
[03:37] <Two_Dogs> or debian?
[03:37] <JoshDL> Xubuntu
[03:38] <cfhowlett> little details >>> huge difference.
[03:38] <JoshDL> I suspect there are other XFCE artifacts to correct
[03:39] <cfhowlett> I don't have that file at all, probably since I use Thunar to browse
[03:39] <JoshDL> looks as though most preferences panels no longer work
[03:39] <Two_Dogs> realies: hey
[03:40] <cfhowlett> as you know, gnome is not as integrated as thunar and xfce apps are
[03:40] <JoshDL> seems all GNOME settings panels die because it Could not find settings panel "background"
[03:41] <JoshDL> I hacked this setup together for my mother a decade ago, and it seems maintaining it the way I had it has become harder :P
[03:42] <JoshDL> I just got done replacing her motherboard; overnight, she's gone from an AMD machine to an Intel machine
[03:42] <JoshDL> Windows doesn't boot, anymore, but Xubuntu worked fine and managed to upgrade itself from LTS to LTS
[03:43] <JoshDL> I hope she doesn't miss the gnome-control-center somehow :P
[03:43] <Two_Dogs> JoshDL: tried nemo?
[03:45] <swift110> hey all
[03:45] <i_heart_penguins> how do i mount ntfs so i can "move to trash" instead of deleting permanently the files in it? i recall i could do this at one point
[03:47] <RoadRunner> cfhowlett: Bashing-om: do you feel a sepparate /sbin is again not worth it today?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> RoadRunner, never done, can't contribute a meaningful opinion.
[03:49] <cfhowlett> i_heart_penguins, manipulating Windows files from Linux often results in tears and anguish.
[03:49] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: No gain in a seperate /sbin whatsoever ... and doing so is a waste of system resources ... just my opinion .
[03:49] <i_heart_penguins> cfhowlett: i realize, that's why i'm doing this temporarily
[03:49] <i_heart_penguins> at least until the ntfs driver gets more mature
[03:50] <mindloop> Hello, I was cleaning my cpu fan when a blade broke off and need to monitor the system temerature until I can replace the cooling system. I installed sensors, but that does not seem to be taking an accurate temperature reading
[03:50] <cfhowlett> mindloop, why do you question the accuracy?
[03:51] <mindloop> cfhowlett, https://pastebin.com/iudNEaQq
[03:51] <mindloop> cfhowlett, That does not look right.
[03:51] <RoadRunner> lastly, if I want to have a sepparate /home, is it easier to install with it from scratch or change my new "experimental" setup of 18.04 (where everything is on /)?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> mindloop, 14 degrees C is cool.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !home | RoadRunner, easy enough to move to a dedicated /home post installation
[03:52] <cfhowlett> and reinstalling is for Windows!
[03:52] <mindloop> cfhowlett, I read that it is a problem with censors, it will always shows 40 degrees, even if it is melting down
[03:52] <cfhowlett> ah!  well yes, in that context I agree
[03:54] <RoadRunner> many thanks for all the help :)
[03:54] <Two_Dogs> my first stab at home partitioning was via link above
[03:54] <Bashing-om> mindloop: Any joy ' cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp ' ?
[03:55] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: went well I take it?
[03:55] <mindloop> Bashing-om, "cat: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp: No such file or directory"
[03:55] <cfhowlett> same ehre
[03:55] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i was clueless to the commands but went thru the process as shown and yes, flawless
[03:56] <RoadRunner> many thanks again then :)
[03:56] <timeless> matjam: https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/1909
[03:56] <Bashing-om> mindloop: too bad "( " sysop@x1804mini:~$ cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp >> 31000 " .. try ' inxi -F ' .
[03:57] <cfhowlett> +1 for inxi -F
[03:57] <Two_Dogs> is inxi default install on all versions of ubuntu?
[03:57] <mindloop> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/qqyN93ug
[03:58] <mindloop> Bashing-om, Does that look accurate to you?
[03:59]  * timeless ponders
[03:59] <Bashing-om> mindloop NO ..not even believable temps .
[03:59] <tsarompy> hai
[03:59] <timeless> is it reasonable for me to say that apt should ignore or complain about an invalid http_proxy?
[03:59] <mindloop> Bashing-om, gah
[04:00] <mindloop> Bashing-om, Linux has nothing else I can use to test the hardware cpu temp?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: No, inxi is not installed by default .
[04:00] <Two_Dogs> what a shame
[04:01] <mindloop> I have a broken cpu cooling blade that I had to yank off to keep it from making a racket, the other blades are okay though.
[04:01] <realies> my amdgpu-pro install is broken
[04:01] <realies> how can i fix it?
[04:01] <realies> Errors were encountered while processing: amdgpu amdgpu-lib32  amdgpu-pro-lib32  amdgpu-pro
[04:01] <mindloop> realies, #radeon channel
[04:01] <Bashing-om> mindloop: That is the extent of my knowledge .. place a thermometer inside the case close to the CPU ??
[04:02] <mindloop> Bashing-om, Fug
[04:02] <Two_Dogs> realies: did the readme indicate what kernel to use or not to use?
[04:02] <mindloop> Bashing-om, Thanks for helping though, I am worried
[04:02] <mindloop> Scared
[04:02] <realies> Two_Dogs, i figured out that i need newer version of the driver
[04:02] <realies> although i think the old one has screwed something up
[04:02] <realies> so the new one does not install
[04:02] <Two_Dogs> realies: ok
[04:03] <Two_Dogs> realies: so neither install, yes?
[04:03] <realies> managed to revert the kernel back to the supposedly working version, it didnt work
[04:03] <realies> yeah
[04:03] <Bashing-om> mindloop: Yeah ,, I feel for you .. semms more than a blade is broke :(
[04:03] <Two_Dogs> realies:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Gx ## whats shown for driver:?
[04:04] <realies> drivers: ati,amdgpu (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,radeon)
[04:04] <Two_Dogs> realies: i would expect graphics to not be broke, just not ready for mining
[04:05] <realies> sure, cards show up in inxi -Gx
[04:05] <realies> i have updated to latest kernel  4.13.0-43-generic
[04:05] <Two_Dogs> realies: the driver is what i was looking at
[04:05] <Two_Dogs> realies: the driver is what i was looking at, its default install amdgpu
[04:06] <realies> indeed, that's the built-in kernel driver afaik
[04:06] <Two_Dogs> indeed
[04:06] <realies> i am unsure how to handle the dpkg mess that occured
[04:06] <realies> and perhaps there could be more...
[04:07] <Two_Dogs> realies: you installed via script from amd, yes?
[04:07] <realies> yes, ran the amdgpu-pro-install --opencl
[04:07] <Two_Dogs> realies: dpkg did not get involved then
[04:08] <Two_Dogs> realies: dkms did, but borked
[04:08] <realies> it bork-overdrived
[04:09] <Two_Dogs> realies: there is an uninstall process to the same script, may remove cruff
[04:09] <realies> https://dpaste.de/fwRZ/raw
[04:09] <realies> dun think so :/
[04:09] <ledeni> Bashing-om, we have 'lm-sensors' for cpu temp
[04:10] <realies> wonder if i could really fix this easily, was not looking forward to a reinstall
[04:11] <cfhowlett> did you try apt -get -f install as suggested?
[04:11] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l *amdgpu* | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[04:11] <realies> sure https://dpaste.de/POeJ/raw
[04:12] <realies> http://termbin.com/3h9k
[04:14] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~namdgpu xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu+ | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[04:14] <Two_Dogs> realies: its a simulation
[04:15] <realies> http://termbin.com/inob
[04:18] <Two_Dogs> realies: i have made one assumption > xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu <-- is default installed , and if so then the solution aptitude found is viable, out with the mess you added and in with two core deps
[04:19] <realies> should i run it without -s then?
[04:20] <Two_Dogs> realies: i dont want to responsible for your borked machine because i touched it, but if i was seeing what you presented to me i would do the fix as found by aptitude
[04:20] <realies> i won't be hunting it down you know, it's already broken
[04:20] <realies> s/it/you
[04:21] <Two_Dogs> realies:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo aptitude purge ~namdgpu xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu+ ## actual command to really do fix
[04:21] <Two_Dogs> realies: then reboot
[04:22] <realies> exited with Current status: 0 (-1) broken.
[04:22] <realies> just before that was Setting up xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (1.1.2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
[04:22] <fractal__> i even tried the 18.10 nightly and it still freezes during install
[04:22] <fractal__> :(
[04:22] <Two_Dogs> realies: reboot
[04:23] <cfhowlett> fractal__, seriously?  it's not even in Alpha.  What did you expect?
[04:23] <realies> sure
[04:23] <fractal__> cfhowlett: just hoping for the best
[04:24] <realies> Two_Dogs, what should i expect after the reboot?
[04:24] <Bashing-om> realies: If the foal is to remove the AMD proprietary overlay .. mught try as ' amdgpu-pro-uninstall ' .
[04:24] <Bashing-om> goal*
[04:24] <realies> Bashing-om, tried that already
[04:24] <Two_Dogs> realies: that inxi -Gx still shows driver: ati, amdgpu
[04:24] <realies> it shows driver: amdgpu
[04:24] <realies> no ati
[04:25] <Two_Dogs> realies: and the graphics is correct or borked?
[04:25] <realies> all listed correctly
[04:25] <realies> dmesg looks fine too
[04:27] <Two_Dogs> realies: i would leave it alone for a week
[04:27] <realies> what :)
[04:27] <Two_Dogs> yeah
[04:27] <realies> pls no
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> realies: remember the purge command, and break on :)
[04:28] <realies> purge amd*?
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> realies:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo aptitude purge ~namdgpu xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu+ ## actual command to really do fix
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> realies: write it down
[04:29] <realies> ohboi
[04:29] <Two_Dogs> i have never had a amd to plink on
[04:29] <Two_Dogs> i broke nvidia alot though
[04:30] <realies> bai X11
[04:30] <realies> but hey, finished ok
[04:32] <realies> so... should i try installing amdgpu-pro again
[04:33] <Bashing-om> re
[04:33] <Bashing-om> does your card support the overlay : https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx ?
[04:33] <realies> that's a very old driver
[04:33] <realies> https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[04:34] <Two_Dogs> realies: does the readme from amd specify the kernel of choice?
[04:35] <realies> no
[04:35] <realies> aaand again: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/./amdgpu-dkms_18.10-572953_all.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_1.1.1-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:35] <realies> happy days
[04:36] <cfhowlett> if you are on 18.10 you are GOING to have errors.  use a supported version of ubuntu.
[04:37] <realies> Radeon™ Software for Linux® version 18.10 for Ubuntu 16.04.4
[04:37] <realies> what :)
[04:37] <realies> i am on 16.04
[04:37] <cfhowlett> I stand corrected.  Pardon my previous comment.
[04:37] <Two_Dogs> realies: share the dkms log created
[04:38] <realies> the stdout or a specific file?
[04:39] <Two_Dogs> realies: you dont see reference to ...dkms.log?
[04:39] <realies> no, https://dpaste.de/6sHK/raw
[04:43] <Two_Dogs> realies: dpkg logs to /var/log, share the tail at least
[04:43] <Two_Dogs> realies: and /var/log/apt/term.log
[04:44] <realies> https://dpaste.de/KD4n/raw
[04:44] <Two_Dogs> it dont like them two debs, how are those two special realies ? ppa repo ??
[04:44] <realies> the are within the driver folder
[04:45] <realies> copied to  /var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local after running the install script
[04:45] <Two_Dogs> realies: and /var/log/apt/term.log
[04:45] <realies> https://dpaste.de/F7jb/raw
[04:46] <realies> i like how informative that log is
[04:50] <realies> Two_Dogs, given up yet?
[04:50] <Two_Dogs> realies: now take all that informative stuff to #radeon so they can made sense of it
[04:50] <Two_Dogs> realies: the two packages needing to install dont, and i have no clue why, where they came from etc :)
[04:51] <realies> i wonder if it would result in the same if i reinstall ubuntu
[04:53] <Two_Dogs> realies: a clean install never hurts in doing test installs
[04:53] <Two_Dogs> clean system install i mean.....
[04:54] <realies> all the backing up, dragging peripherals and a monitor, restoring and reconfiguring is making me cringe
[04:54] <realies> might have to leave it for a week
[04:55] <Two_Dogs> realies: i saw alot of ppa, how many of those ppa can be disabled out of the equation?
[04:55] <realies> all
[04:55] <Two_Dogs> realies: then add that, go ppa free
[04:56] <Two_Dogs> realies: those two debs that bork, where are they initially added to the mix?
[04:56] <Two_Dogs> where are they coming from?
[04:57] <realies> random crap
[04:57] <Two_Dogs> random?
[04:57] <Two_Dogs> they originate where?
[04:57] <realies> they were manually added
[04:58] <Two_Dogs> by you?
[04:58] <oerheks> amazing
[04:58] <Two_Dogs> indeed
[04:58] <realies> by me, yes
[04:58] <Two_Dogs> ahh
[04:58] <Two_Dogs> thnks for sharing :)
[04:59] <realies> you are always welcome
[04:59] <realies> amdgpu-pro-local.list is by the amd driver of course
[04:59] <realies> but you can say it's by me again
[04:59] <Two_Dogs> realies: perhaps amd mining is simpler on debian?
[05:00] <realies> who knows, went for ubuntu because of the "Radeon™ Software for Linux® version 18.10 for Ubuntu 16.04.4" statement
[05:01] <realies> first time using amd and the use-case is not that usual
[05:01] <realies> what's your point about going to debian?
[05:01] <realies> s/amd/amd graphics
[05:01] <Two_Dogs> realies: the two debs are your personal injection into the install or were part of the install from radeon script?
[05:02] <realies> no personal interference with the original install script
[05:02] <realies> the debs are within the tar from amd
[05:03] <Two_Dogs> realies: i have not used debian, its suppose to be stable though
[05:03] <realies> ubuntu was stable too
[05:03] <realies> until i decided that it's a great idea to do a distro upgrade
[05:04] <Two_Dogs> realies: ok, so i would be asking #radeon/amd who ever is the guru channel why those two debs bork the install
[05:04] <realies> sure, i've asked there
[05:05] <Two_Dogs> realies: i would suffer thru a cherry install of the version called for by the readme
[05:06] <realies> uh?
[05:06] <Two_Dogs> realies: might as well cover all possible reasons for a bork, upgrades dont always go well down in the innards if i can be less than technical
[05:07] <realies> gotcha
[05:07] <Two_Dogs> realies: or use nvidia card :)
[05:08] <realies> i guess i gotta backup all the monitoring software i wrote, bioses, etc...
[05:08] <realies> went for amd as it seemed better for the purpose
[05:08] <adleff> just installed ubuntu 16.04 and have been having some issues with apt installing pretty out of date software.  I'm pretty sure this is just because I don't know what I'm doing, what can I check or do going forward to make sure apt is pulling from reasonably up to date repositories
[05:08] <Two_Dogs> nvidia cuda is the thing for mining, no?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> adleff, on a regular basis: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[05:09] <realies> Two_Dogs, it seems that amd is doing better investment:return for ethash
[05:09] <adleff> cfhowlett, what does the latter part of that command do?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> and why do you think apt is pulling out of date stuff?  what is your ubuntu version?
[05:09] <adleff> or the second command I should say
[05:09] <Two_Dogs> realies: ok
[05:09] <cfhowlett> adleff, update = fresh the libraries dist-upgrade = install latest software for this OS
[05:10] <adleff> cfhowlett, well it's pulling ansible 2.0.0.2 for example, which is far behind the newest release.  I upgraded ansible using PyPI and it pulled it up to version 2.5.3
[05:10] <realies> with some custom memory straps it does way better than nvidia alternatives in the same price range
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !latest | understood.  see the factoid.
[05:11] <realies> Two_Dogs, thanks for the time though
[05:11] <Two_Dogs> realies: try using 'dpkg -i ' on those two debs all by them selves yet?
[05:11] <adleff> cfhowlett, thx for the suggestions
[05:12] <cfhowlett> bestofluck
[05:12] <adleff> cfhowlett, I thought maybe I had to manually add some repo sources that everyone but me already knows to add
[05:12] <realies> no, though there's no point
[05:12] <gogeta> realies: ?
[05:12] <Two_Dogs> realies: it would be interesting to see
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !info ansible | adleff seen this?
[05:13] <realies> https://dpaste.de/GVo3/raw
[05:13] <adleff> cfhowlett, I literally just took whatever 'apt-get install ansible' gave me
[05:13] <adleff> I basically need to learn what the eff I'm doing
[05:14] <realies>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-radeon.conf dun exist, imma touch it
[05:14] <realies> same error
[05:14] <adleff> like I said though, at least for ansible I'm up to 2.5.3 courtesy of pypi
[05:14] <cfhowlett> shawheat!
[05:14] <adleff> which is great because I really don't want to refactor my playbooks for my lab
[05:15] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l *dkms* | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:15] <realies> http://termbin.com/6ls8
[05:15] <gogeta> adleff: for latest packages you normaly need to find a ppa. and before the chat interupts with rage paa may eat your system first born etc
[05:15] <gogeta> ppa
[05:16] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude why rock-dkms rocm-dkms | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:16] <adleff> gogeta, yah that makes sense. I don't necessarily expect the latest hotfix to be in the main ubuntu repos
[05:16] <adleff> but the version I was pulling was so far behind, I was like what the heck am I doing wrong here
[05:16] <realies> Two_Dogs http://termbin.com/8abo
[05:17] <cfhowlett> I'm confused that apt missed the latest but py didn't adleff
[05:17] <gogeta> adleff: trust me its notwhere as bad a debaion stable
[05:17] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude why rock-dkms | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:18] <realies> i   rocm-dkms Depends rock-dkms
[05:18] <adleff> cfhowlett, maybe I should have added this caveat/disclaimer before, but this is the ubuntu 16.04 that comes from the msft store to use with WSL
[05:18] <adleff> which if I believe what I'm told, should effectively be the same thing as having 16.04
[05:18] <cfhowlett> heretic!
[05:18] <Flannel> adleff: As far as repositories are concerned, yeah.
[05:18] <gogeta> adleff: sinner
[05:19] <adleff> cfhowlett, have you tried coding on windows 10 before? I'll take it! :)
[05:19] <gogeta> adleff: im sure 10 will switch to 18.04 being its a lts
[05:20] <Two_Dogs> realies: what depends on rock-dkms?
[05:20] <adleff> it's actually kinda neat, i think msft is definitely going the right direction with wsl
[05:20] <adleff> it's way better than whatever cygwin is
[05:20] <gogeta> adleff: thats not relly true
[05:21] <Two_Dogs> realies: what i am seeing is usually called dep hell
[05:21] <realies> that was the output, http://termbin.com/bg24
[05:21] <realies> i can feel it
[05:21] <gogeta> adleff: cygwin could run a full system if configured correctly
[05:21] <adleff> gogeta, how well would it handle multiple distros being installed concurrently?
[05:22] <Flannel> gogeta, adleff: While I appreciate the conversation, it's veering away from technical support.  Can you take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks.
[05:22] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy rock-dkms rocm-dkms | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:22] <adleff> Flannel, ok no prob
[05:23] <realies> Two_Dogs, http://termbin.com/rbcd
[05:24] <realies> feelin like running that
[05:24] <gogeta> realies: that looks system eating
[05:25] <realies> gogeta, well previous one got rid of a big x11 chunk
[05:25] <gogeta> realies: gotta love ubuntu deb hell
[05:26] <realies> <3
[05:26] <gogeta> bep
[05:27] <Two_Dogs> realies: i am clueless to what that actual will do, wipes some and finishes install of other, looks scary
[05:28] <realies> what can go worse?
[05:28] <realies> perhaps backing up the aforementioned things manually off another machine
[05:28] <Two_Dogs> realies: not much actually, one 'aptitude purge ~namdgpu' and the slate is back to default
[05:29] <realies> well... there goes nothing
[05:30] <Two_Dogs> realies: amdgpu is suppose to be in the kernel, yes? and worse case modesetting would use it
[05:30] <gogeta> realies: and the computer sets on fire
[05:30] <realies> loads of these W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/topaz_smc.bin for module amdgpu
[05:30] <realies> :D
[05:30] <realies> Current status: 0 (-3) broken, 1 (-41) new.
[05:30] <realies> yay
[05:31] <gogeta> realies: so amdgpu is broken and your trying to remove it?
[05:31] <Two_Dogs> zero broke is good
[05:31] <realies> you're*
[05:31] <gogeta> realies: you know you can just force vesa video mode
[05:31] <Two_Dogs> gogeta: amdgpu is working
[05:31] <realies> i don't care about the video mode, just looking to have amdgpu-pro working
[05:31] <gogeta> Two_Dogs: oh
[05:32] <Two_Dogs> realies: reboot yet?
[05:32] <realies> doing it now
[05:32] <Two_Dogs> was working :)
[05:32] <realies> indeed
[05:32] <Two_Dogs> realies: inxi -Gx post reboot?
[05:33] <realies> driver: amdgpu
[05:33] <Two_Dogs> still there
[05:33] <Two_Dogs> :)
[05:33] <realies> fascinating
[05:34] <realies> gotta try install that wonderful driver again
[05:35] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> grep -Ei 'radeon|amd' /etc/modprobe.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:35] <Two_Dogs> not sure i spelled that out correctly
[05:35] <realies> looks ok to me
[05:37] <realies> dude
[05:37] <realies> the install did not crash
[05:37] <realies> http://termbin.com/s4jj
[05:37] <Two_Dogs> dude :)
[05:38] <Two_Dogs> realies: what install?
[05:38] <realies>  ./amdgpu-pro-install --opencl
[05:38] <Two_Dogs> ahh
[05:38] <realies> afraid to reboot
[05:38] <realies> is it gonna overbork?
[05:38] <Two_Dogs> reboot and expect to see amdgpu-pro via inxi -G
[05:39] <Two_Dogs> realies: rebooted?
[05:39] <Two_Dogs> i cant tell from here
[05:40] <realies>  driver: amdgpu
[05:40] <realies> lol
[05:40] <Two_Dogs> realies: look at tail of /var/log/apt/term.log for ..dkms.log
[05:41] <realies> https://dpaste.de/qABa/raw
[05:41] <Two_Dogs> so now the install takes does not bork but no sign of -pro
[05:41] <realies> oddly enough psu usage went from 70-90W to 160-170W
[05:42] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> glxinfo | grep render | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:42] <gogeta> realies: num num num
[05:43] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> lsmod | grep -i amd | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:43] <realies> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt install mesa-utils
[05:43] <realies> lol
[05:43] <Two_Dogs> realies: nevermind if you got no graphics
[05:43] <realies> last one is http://termbin.com/pszc
[05:43] <realies> i think i purged graphics about 6 commands ago
[05:44] <destinydriven> clear
[05:44] <Two_Dogs> realies: you rebooted?
[05:44] <realies> yeah
[05:44] <Two_Dogs> realies: copy/paste & execute via terminal> dkms status | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:44] <realies> http://termbin.com/xjag
[05:45] <destinydriven> Hey guys, I am having trouble editing /etc/fstab even as root. My system won't boot normally without it.  I get this message E212: Can't open file for writing when I try to save
[05:45] <Two_Dogs> realies: you were looking for as shown on dkms status?
[05:46] <Two_Dogs> i keep wanting to see amdgpu-pro for some reason
[05:46] <realies> me2
[05:46] <destinydriven> I have tried :w sudo tee %
[05:47] <realies> kind of strange that the driver installed and it's not showing up
[05:47] <realies> i'll try install the whole thing, not only the opencl bit
[05:47] <Two_Dogs> realies: the dkms driver is result of your script install
[05:47] <realies> i see
[05:47] <realies> hm
[05:48] <Two_Dogs> realies: so the install was just for the cuda like effect on amd?
[05:48] <realies> perhaps modprobe amdgpu
[05:48] <realies> sort of, yeah
[05:48] <Two_Dogs> realies: its loaded, amdgpu
[05:49] <realies> i mean check the driver location
[05:49] <realies> does it come from the kernel or elsewhere
[05:49] <Two_Dogs> realies: it shows in everything i can think of, from dkms to lsmod to inxi
[05:50] <realies> perhaps i meant modinfo
[05:50] <Two_Dogs> realies: for funzies you could dkms remove the module, the version is same as script, yes?
[05:51] <realies> filename:       /lib/modules/4.13.0-43-generic/updates/dkms/amdgpu.ko, version:        18.10.4.13
[05:51] <realies> indeed
[05:51] <realies> gotta reboot and try fire up something that uses that
[05:51] <Two_Dogs> realies: it was not version birth
[05:52] <realies> version birth?
[05:52] <Two_Dogs> i meant virgin
[05:52] <Two_Dogs> dislexic
[05:52] <realies> still not getting you
[05:52] <Two_Dogs> realies: that version had to come from the script, yes?
[05:52] <realies> by the looks of it, yeah
[05:53] <realies> May 22 06:50 /lib/modules/4.13.0-43-generic/updates/dkms/amdgpu.ko
[05:53] <realies> sounds about right
[05:53] <blind_> hi guys, I want to thank you for the help this morning
[05:53] <blind_> now I have wifi ! :D
[05:54] <realies> mr miner says No AMD OPENCL or NVIDIA CUDA GPUs found though
[05:54] <Two_Dogs> that sucks
[05:54] <realies> ye
[05:55] <realies> lets' try with some kernel arguments
[05:55] <Two_Dogs> how does opencl kick in? service?
[05:55] <realies> i wish i knew
[05:55] <Two_Dogs> its your machine
[05:55] <Two_Dogs> sir
[05:56] <realies> i install the driver and BANG, it works
[05:56] <Two_Dogs> not in this case, yes?
[05:56] <realies> of course
[05:56] <realies> (i think)
[05:56] <Two_Dogs> ok
[05:56] <oerheks> realies, what ppa list again ?
[05:56] <oerheks> miners use oibaf ppa iirc https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[05:57] <realies> whuuuuuut
[05:57] <Two_Dogs> realies: yeah, them drivers
[05:57] <Two_Dogs> i am now officially out of my paygrade
[05:58] <Two_Dogs> realies: all i would do now is guess alot, good luck
[05:58] <realies> Two_Dogs, thank you very much sir
[05:58] <Two_Dogs> realies: it was fun
[05:58] <realies> it still is
[05:58] <Two_Dogs> i got nvidia, i could not replicate if i wanted to
[05:59] <realies> oerheks, it seems like you know what should happen now, no? lol
[05:59] <realies> Two_Dogs, i wish you never have to deal with this again
[05:59] <Two_Dogs> realies: i dont mind a puzzle
[05:59] <oerheks> no, i have not the list of your ppaś that might have infuence on drivers.. anything is possible
[05:59] <oerheks>  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:00] <destinydriven> Is there any way to get around editing a file as root when in Read-only file system?
[06:00] <Two_Dogs> realies: you said you were ppa free
[06:00] <konimex> destinydriven: remount it as rw
[06:00] <realies> dmesg says amdkcl: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[06:01] <realies> i am now ppa free: http://termbin.com/ul13
[06:01] <destinydriven> konimex, I can only boot in recovery mode and everything is read-only it seems
[06:01] <Two_Dogs> realies: thats a false positive
[06:01] <Two_Dogs> realies: you on a uefi setup?
[06:01] <konimex> mount -o rw,remount / ?
[06:01] <realies> yeah
[06:01] <destinydriven> Ok I will look into that
[06:01] <Two_Dogs> realies: and disabled secure boot?
[06:02] <realies> don't remember doing so manually
[06:02] <realies> but it did say it
[06:02] <Two_Dogs> say what?
[06:02] <realies> secure boot is disabled
[06:02] <Two_Dogs> ok
[06:02] <Two_Dogs> realies: thats a false positive then
[06:03] <destinydriven> konimex, wow, that worked. You saved my life there
[06:03] <Two_Dogs> realies:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3
[06:03] <destinydriven> konimex, thanks a million
[06:03] <realies> https://dpaste.de/HujG/raw
[06:04] <realies> one of the lines doesnt look promising
[06:05] <Two_Dogs> which? size?
[06:05] <realies> Failed to start Detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes.
[06:07] <realies> not seeing the amdgpu.cik_support=1 argument that i have in the grub config in dmesg, is it not supposed to show up there?
[06:09] <Two_Dogs> realies: why is that argument enabled? amdgpu is not amdgpu-pro , just saying
[06:10] <sky887> Are you dogs?
[06:10] <realies> i think amdgpu-pro shows up as amdgpu
[06:10] <Two_Dogs> realies: i dont
[06:10] <realies> well
[06:10] <realies> https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-Pro-Beta-Mining-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[06:10] <realies> search for `amdgpu.`
[06:11] <Two_Dogs> realies: when amdgpu-pro is active inxi -Gx shows driver: amdgpu-pro
[06:11] <realies> perhaps, but the kernel arguments stay amdgpu.
[06:11] <realies> modinfo amdgpu shows vm_fragment_size which is a parameter only available by the pro driver
[06:12] <realies> w t f
[06:13] <Two_Dogs> yes, the driver installed via script, showin up in dkms status
[06:14] <realies> i don't get if the system still loads the kernel amdgpu
[06:14] <realies> or the compute service borks
[06:14] <realies> if it's an actual 'service'
[06:15] <Two_Dogs> realies: no services mentioned on journalctl
[06:15] <realies> yeh
[06:15] <Two_Dogs> but that was just 'errors' dump
[06:16] <Norux> I need help configuring /etc/network/interfaces. It used to work but now it doesn't
[06:16] <realies> tell me about it...
[06:16] <Two_Dogs> realies: good luck, i am gone
[06:16] <realies> thanks again
[06:19] <realies> oerheks, can you elaborate on that pls
[06:21] <ducasse> Norux: start here - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en
[06:29] <Two_Dogs>  /ignore joins
[06:31] <Norux> thanks ducasse
[06:47] <Norux> Okay so now I have the following problem: `ifconfig` shows the wireless interface `wlp2s0`. If I put `auto wlp2s0` in `/etc/network/interfaces`, then `systemctl status networking.service` tells me `unknown interface`
[06:47] <kristenbb> I'm trying to setup a swap on a server. I created a 2GB file with dd, and used swapon to use it. It works, as shown by 'free'. But how can I set it on boot? I tried adding a sh file with 'swapon /swapfile' in /etc/init.d, but it doesn't seem to work?
[06:50] <Two_Dogs> Norux: try restarting the service
[06:51] <ducasse> kristenbb: add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[06:52] <Norux> Two_Dogs: I did, and then I get `Service failed because it exited with an error. See systemctl status networking.service`
[06:52] <Norux> so i checked that, and that gives me "unknown interface wlp2s0".
[06:55] <Norux> If I out-comment (?) the `auto wlp2s0` in `/etc/network/interfaces`, I still get unknown host when pinging google
[06:56] <Two_Dogs> Norux:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> iwconfig ## look correct?
[06:56] <ducasse> Norux: is that the only line you have for that interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:57] <Norux> Two_Dogs: uhh... no... `lo` and `enp5s0` say "no wireless extensions"
[06:57] <Two_Dogs> Norux: you here on enp5s0?
[06:58] <Norux> ducasse: no. I have the following: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yxcfMm35hs/
[06:58] <Norux> Two_Dogs: second laptop
[07:07] <ducasse> Norux: that won't work, you need more than that. see the bottom answer here - https://askubuntu.com/questions/168687/wireless-configuration-using-etc-network-interfaces-documentation?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa
[07:08] <Norux> ducasse: where do I get my ssid and psk from
[07:09] <Norux> ducasse: and, do I need that for a LAN interface?
[07:10] <ducasse> Norux: you should know that if you're trying to set up a wireless network connection
[07:10] <Norux> ducasse: At the moment I first want to fix my lan connection
[07:10] <Norux> but thank you!
[07:12] <ducasse> Norux: what you have for the wired interface should work
[07:13] <Norux> ducasse: I get "unknown host www.google.com" though
[07:13] <ducasse> Norux: try 'systemctl restart networking'
[07:14] <Norux> ducasse: I did
[07:19] <Flannel>  /win 31
[07:26] <oerheks>  /os2warp
[07:49] <Wh0m> Hi all
[07:49] <Wh0m> i had a issue with df and du; i know it is not the same but du showed around 50% of my total filesystem space meanwhile df showed me around 98% . How can i check what files are opened or caching data in disk?
[07:50] <Wh0m> keep n mind i'm using lvm
[07:52] <pavlushka> I have a trivial question, what does OP means?(on forums like this)
[07:53] <Wh0m> IRC Operator pavlushka
[07:55] <pavlushka> Wh0m: oh I meant forums like (askubuntu/ubuntuforums) correction
[07:55] <realies> can i install ubuntu via ssh?
[07:56] <realies> e.g. on a machine connected to a network without any peripherals
[07:58] <Edisto> anyone have random crashing issues? Were really bad in 17.10 but in 18.04 it still ocassionally happens
[08:05] <voiter> i need a specific version of chromium on ubuntu 18.04. where can i read about how to do it?
[08:07] <ducasse> pavlushka: 'original poster'
[08:07] <pavlushka> ducasse: hehe, ty
[08:09] <Edisto> where can I access a crash log when my system freezes
[08:11] <pavlushka> realies: you can send an entire existing image/system of Ubuntu to a specific partition of that system if you can access
[08:13] <realies> pavlushka, if i can access?
[08:14] <ducasse> realies: you can use preseeding for a fully automated install, for ssh you need keyboard etc to load the ssh module
[08:21] <cart_man> Hi everyone . I have ubuntu 17 and I cant seem to open a port for MySQL on 3306 using  " iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT ". When I " telnet 192.168.xxx.10 22 " it connects fine but I cant seem to go " telnet 192.168.xxx.10 3306 " even after the tcp and udp ports have been opened on 3306
[08:23] <pavlushka> Edisto: if ctrl+alt+f1~f6 works then in dmesg or reboot and then dmesg and also in the /var/crash
[08:37] <pavlushka> I have setup an Ubuntu 1804 minimal env, how do I fic the system to autologin in text mode?
[08:39] <cart_man> I can not seem to log into MySQL from outside the local machine. I tried even using telnet to log on like -> " telnet 192.168.xxx.xxx 3306 " and it refuses to connect. If I try with mySQL-WOrkbench it just refuses to connect even with the right credentials. The Mysql server is latest version and OS UBUNTU 17. Is there something I must know about either OS or MYSQL?
[08:44] <pavlushka> that means how to execute agetty for tty1?
[08:45] <ledeni> pavlushka, https://askubuntu.com/questions/819117/autologin-at-startup-to-ubuntu-server-16-04-1-lts ----> check answer 2
[08:49] <ledeni> cart_man, can you give us 'lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:50] <bazhang> ledeni, he's on 17.10
[08:51] <ledeni> bazhang, he could show that
[08:52] <bazhang> ledeni, he got the answer crossposted elsewhere
[09:01] <MaximB> Hi, ubuntu 16.04 has backports.ssl_match_hostname 3.4 , and later ubuntu versions has backports.ssl_match_hostname 3.5 . can I install the package from the later ubuntu versions to the older 16.04 version? I need the 3.5 version
[09:02] <bazhang> MaximB, as in mixing version repos?
[09:02] <MaximB> dunno, just a way to get the 3.5 version of ubuntu 16.04
[09:02] <MaximB> *on
[09:03] <bazhang> mixing version repos is neither a good idea nor supported
[09:04] <MaximB> so how can I get the 3.5 version on ubuntu 16.04? must i get later ubuntu versions?
[09:04] <jackhum> i have written a python script and changed its permission to run as executable, now every time on my terminal i have to ./program.py to run it , is there anyway i can run it by just calling program
[09:06] <ledeni> jackhum, what DE you using
[09:06] <jackhum> ledeni, DE?
[09:06] <jackhum> ledeni, unity ubuntu 16.04
[09:10] <ledeni> jackhum, try in terminal 'gnome-desktop-item-edit Desktop --create-new'
[09:28] <jackhum> ledeni, i want to run it on my terminal , i dont want to use ./program.py , i want to just press program and enter from any directory
[09:29] <ChristW> Hi, I have a Beaver system that keeps crashing (in X.org), so that I have to power-cycle the computer to get it up again. I’m willing to set up ssh into that machine (for myself, obviously… I’m at another computer), re-compile X, set up GDB, whatever, to try to pinpoint the problem, but can someone talk me through this, or point me to instructions? I would love to get this problem to go away…
[09:29] <Guest67402> Is it possible to use unity in ubuntu 18.04?
[09:30] <jackhum> Guest67402, what problem are you facing with new DE? i am 16.04 user using unity . i am just curious
[09:31] <mancman3> Guest67402: google unity remix
[09:31] <mancman3> or something like that
[09:32] <Guest67402> jackhum: I am not facing any major issues. I am just more comfortable using unity! =)
[09:32] <guiverc_d> Guest67402, you can apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop on 18.04 -- but it needs to be added (unless you release-upgrade)
[09:32] <jackhum> Guest67402, what DE is used by 18.04 by default
[09:33] <mancman3> Gnome
[09:33] <guiverc_d> jackhum, Ubuntu 18.04 uses GNOME by default
[09:33] <oerheks> no unity in 18.04, iirc
[09:33] <mancman3> Unity and Gnome3 may aswell combine. they look so similar
[09:36] <Guest95624> mancman3: I feel as if gnome was made for a touch screen.
[09:36] <mancman3> I prefer old skool gnome2
[09:37] <mancman3> mate cinnamon etc
[09:37] <mancman3> i like menu bars with categories lol
[09:41] <illn00blli> I'm using 18.04, wondering if there is a way (probably, right?) to change the size of the image preview in the file browser? especially when uploading an image via a web browser, but... in general is also acceptable.
[09:43] <Guest95624> mancman3: for sure man
[09:44] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: dolphin from kde can, i would image most let you scale the image
[09:48] <totorux> hi
[09:49] <totorux> I m trying to make a preseed file to install ubuntu 18.04
[09:49] <totorux> with LVM and encrypted filesystem
[09:50] <totorux> but I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/1663645
[09:51] <totorux> ubottu: it steel present
[09:51] <oerheks> totorux, no you don't, as you have os-prober 1.74 in bionic
[09:52] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober
[09:52] <totorux> oerheks: I already have  os-prober 1.74
[09:52] <oerheks> your bugreport tells that it is fixed in 1.74 ..
[09:53] <totorux> oerheks: preseed files problem ?
[09:53] <totorux> I use netboot file for my install
[09:53] <oerheks> Tornevall, dunno, maybe it is an UEFI thing ?
[09:55] <totorux> oerheks: it's realated with UEFI, I don't have any problème with legacy boot, but I don't try to crypt my data on this install
[09:55] <totorux> (I don't check if it's possible)
[09:55] <|\n> hello, any hints appreciated (i can't figure out if this is a bug or decide what to do next), with this package (adm64) https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libgl1-mesa-dri i see the following at glxinfo: "libGL: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: undefined symbol: amdgpu_cs_syncobj_import_sync_file)" which results into various issues
[09:56] <usuario> hola
[09:56] <usuario> como estais
[09:56] <usuario> soy un trafficante de drogas
[09:56] <fakhrads> hi
[09:56] <usuario> hello
[09:57] <usuario> how are u
[09:57] <fakhrads> fine
[09:57] <usuario> good
[09:57] <fakhrads> and u
[09:57] <usuario> good
[09:57] <usuario> wher are u from
[09:57] <fakhrads> asia
[09:57] <usuario> smae
[09:57] <usuario> same
[09:57] <fakhrads> yeah
[09:57] <usuario> nice
[09:58] <usuario> how old r u
[09:58] <oerheks> !ot
[09:58] <usuario> hey oerkhes
[09:58] <oerheks> totorux, no clue about uefi and preseeding, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html
[09:58] <fakhrads> im teenager
[09:58] <usuario> nice
[09:58] <fakhrads> and u
[09:59] <usuario> im 23
[09:59] <fakhrads> nice
[09:59] <oerheks> fakhrads, usuario do yo have an ubuntu support issue? else join ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[09:59] <usuario> what part of asia are u from fakh
[10:00] <usuario> fakhrads wanna buy some drugs like cocaine or meth or weed i sell very good prices
[10:00] <oerheks> !ops
[10:00] <oerheks> wrong network, usuario
[10:01] <totorux> oerheks: no ...
[10:01] <|\n> now that escalated not so fast, but pretty quick, pretty amusing, wondering if my question caused it somehow
[10:02] <usuario> any1 wanna use my my porn website
[10:02] <usuario> its www.xnxx.com
[10:02] <MortezaE> Totem: h264 (baseline profile) decoder is required to play the file, but is not installed
[10:03] <MortezaE> fails to find a decoder automatically
[10:04] <DalekSec> usuario: Not the place for that, please don't.  This channel is for the support of the Ubuntu operating system.
[10:04] <Two_Dogs> |\n: when i see 'symbols' errors i wonder if packages/deps are not from one repo/version
[10:06] <usuario> poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:06] <usuario> 3oRMJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJQ+Q-. L3KRM+pqO30 ROQIEIF MQOe
[10:06] <usuario>  tmQK+M P+RM
[10:06] <usuario> WGK
[10:06] <usuario> m hw
[10:06] <usuario>  HW M
[10:07] <|\n> Two_Dogs, indeed, several years old instance, thanks, looking through now
[10:11] <Two_Dogs> MortezaE:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude search 264 ## see anything codec related?
[10:13] <MortezaE> Two_Dogs, h264enc ?
[10:13] <Two_Dogs> MortezaE: maybe, try installing it
[10:14] <MortezaE> No, it's an encoder
[10:14] <Two_Dogs> MortezaE: ok
[10:14]  * MortezaE switches to vlc
[10:15] <tigefa> MortezaE: try ppa from https://launchpad.net/~mc3man
[10:16] <MortezaE> tigefa, thx i'll test now
[10:25] <MortezaE> tigefa, someone suggested me Parole Media Player, a GStreamer based player. Works good...
[10:29] <tigefa> MortezaE: mpv " sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mc3man/mpv-tests "
[10:33] <killall> any one here with ubiquiti unifi controller?
[10:35] <oerheks> y
[10:36] <killall> oerheks, do you?
[10:36] <oerheks> killall, no, sorry
[10:36] <killall> i have 18.10 and my unifi keeps logging "<db-server> ERROR system - [exec] error, rc=2"
[10:36] <killall> mongo wont start
[10:36] <oerheks> 18.10 ?
[10:37] <ZeroDAYS> really ?
[10:37] <oerheks> that is not even released yet
[10:37] <MortezaE> tigefa, after installing Parole, surprisingly totem plays that videos. btw mpv is installing
[10:38] <jhave> Hello
[10:38] <MortezaE> That works nice, thx a lot
[10:38] <jhave> I have a problem with netplan in 18.04 :(
[10:38] <jhave> https://gyazo.com/0348f23323b68bdc4dd44bfd749d0799
[10:39] <jhave> I dont understand i have checked and tabs is correct
[10:39] <oerheks> jhave, and post your etc/netplan/01- yaml ??
[10:40] <jhave> https://gyazo.com/178763aa9f04b245e4e54c81caa4dfa5
[10:40] <oerheks> and why a screenshot for some text...
[10:41] <jhave> oerheks, network down on server
[10:41] <oerheks> jhave post it on paste.ubuntu.com please, you post an unreadable file
[10:41] <jhave> only console access to the file :(
[10:42] <oerheks> oke, then nobody can help you, goodluck
[10:42] <oerheks> from console it is easy to post that few lines, no?
[10:42] <jhave> Nope its a java console :(
[10:44] <jhave> HPE ILO :(
[10:47] <timeless> jhave: at least try cat ...|hexdump -c
[10:48] <jhave> found the problem :)
[10:48] <jhave> No taps in yaml :S
[10:55] <jhave> is there an alternativ to ifup eth1 with netplan ?
[10:55] <tarzeau> autofs fails to start sometimes with 18.04. anyone else with that issue?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:28] <terker> hello, im using Ubuntu server 18.04 LTS on VirtualBox, for some reason I am unable to type escape char '\' and I get '<'. I have been trying to look for solutions online, but I got nothing. All other characters work as intended
[11:29] <Pitel> how can I exclude some packages from apt upgrade? I only find solutions with holding, but I just want to exclude them this one time. So holding, upgrading and unholding seems like too much hassle.
[11:30] <DK2> im trying to configure a hostroute http://pastebin.centos.org/782911/
[11:30] <DK2> however when trying to test a remote ip im getting no route to host
[11:30] <DK2> it works when i set the ip to the same as the 192.168.0.0/24
[11:30] <DK2> any ideas?
[11:32] <JimBuntu> DK2, is 192.168.0.254 truly your gateway? AND... is it configured to be able to talk to the 10.82.x.x network?
[11:33] <DK2> yes, if i set the server ip 192.168.0.200 for example with same route, it works
[11:33] <DK2> .254 is the GW
[11:33] <JimBuntu> Double check if the gateway is set up for /24, since using x.x.0.200 works
[11:33] <|\n> thanks Two_Dogs, there were things to clean up, even though it changed the situation to a more healthy state, glxinfo complains on absence of some ".drirc" and explicitly says "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig" =)
[11:34] <DK2> the gw is 192.168.0.254/24
[11:34] <DK2> but as it says "no route to host" it seems the server with 192.168.2.1 doesnt seem to know how to contact 192.168.0.254?
[11:35] <JimBuntu> isn't x.x.2.x outside of a x.x.0.x/24 network?
[11:36] <DK2> yes
[11:36] <DK2> thats why im doing the hostroute thing
[11:36] <DK2> as seen in the config snippet
[11:36] <DK2> both subnets are in the same vlan
[11:37] <|\n> DK2, if you'd add a certain box from 10th manually - do you experience the same?
[11:37] <DK2> sec, trying that one
[11:38] <DK2> yes, same fail /
[11:38] <|\n> also #ubuntu-server might worth to ask as well
[11:38] <JimBuntu> Sorry, I simply don't see how it would know how to route... given the netmask puts x.x.0.254 out of bounds.
[11:39] <DK2> it should like that, we are doing configurations like this for additional ips for ages
[11:39] <DK2> im trying ubuntu-server
[11:41] <|\n> DK2, do you check routes on the same box where you type it? sorry for asking =)
[11:41] <s10gopal> patch is applied but why i am not able to get it through update ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2018-May/092513.html
[11:42] <s10gopal> !ping
[11:43] <JimBuntu> Hi s10gopal, I am glad to see that the solution was found.
[11:43] <gorbypark> Hi just installed 18.04, and there's no 'scale' option in screen settings...all the howto's show screenshots of a scale setting under the resolution drop down, but i don't have one....any ideas?
[11:44] <DK2>  |\n : Yes
[11:45] <gorbypark> i should mention completely stock gnome install
[11:47] <s10gopal> JimBuntu, it is going to increase battery life and save environment  too :)
[11:48] <terker> I'll try again: im using Ubuntu server 18.04 LTS on VirtualBox, for some reason I am unable to type escape char '\' and I get '<' instead. All other characters work as intended. Any ideas?
[11:50] <s10gopal> terker, https://askubuntu.com/questions/951276/escape-character-not-working-in-scp , ?
[11:53] <mactheknife> How to solve: E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
[11:53] <mactheknife> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:53] <terker> s10gopal: thanks, but I don't think scp has anything to do with this? I am using virtualbox and just simply cannot type '\', whilst it works on my Windows Host
[11:54] <kiokoman> mactheknife: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
[11:54] <kiokoman> mactheknife: and remove / comment out / check line 2
[11:55] <s10gopal> terker, https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/7022
[11:56] <mactheknife> kiokoman: there is no line 2 in source.list
[11:56] <kiokoman> i say /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
[11:56] <kiokoman> not souces.list
[11:56] <s10gopal> terker, you have to configure the third level keys for the keyboard
[11:57] <terker> would you be able to give me some direction on how to do that s10gopal ?
[11:58] <s10gopal> terker, https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/28382749/Adjusting-keyboard-layout-in-GNOME-desktop-to-get-backslash-key.html
[11:58] <mactheknife> kiokoman: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list: command not found
[11:59] <terker> that's actually the keyboard I got s10gopal, thank you.
[11:59] <kiokoman> mactheknife! the complete command is -> >>>   sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
[11:59] <JimBuntu> !cookie | s10gopal
[11:59] <terker> eh requires premium to see the solution :S
[11:59] <s10gopal> thx
[12:00] <s10gopal> no
[12:00] <mactheknife> kiokoman: deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
[12:00] <mactheknife> sudo apt update && sudo apt install signal-desktop
[12:01] <kiokoman> mactheknife: remove all the second line ->>> sudo apt update && sudo apt install signal-desktop
[12:02] <s10gopal> terker, what is your keyboard layout ?
[12:02] <mactheknife> kiokoman: So I just need to delete the line which says "deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main"?
[12:06] <ZaZaQR> hi
[12:07] <wr> what command can be used to list groups on ubuntu 16.04?
[12:07] <|\n> cat /etc/group
[12:13] <totorux> re
[12:15] <mactheknife> still no go
[12:17] <rangemonger> why would wicd not show wifi networks at all but the gnome frontend for networkmanager works just fine?
[12:18] <kiokoman> mactheknife: you need to delete line 2 , the one that say " sudo apt update && sudo apt install signal-desktop "
[12:19] <mactheknife> kiokoman: ok, but how to save that file?
[12:20] <kiokoman> ctrl + x
[12:23] <mactheknife> kiokoman: done, gives only more problems...
[12:24] <mactheknife> synaptic says: E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
[12:24] <mactheknife> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[12:24] <mactheknife> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[12:24] <mactheknife> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:24] <mactheknife> W: Ignoring file 'signal-xenial.list.save.1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[12:25] <kiokoman> mactheknife: you didn't save
[12:26] <kiokoman> in the right way at least
[12:27] <kiokoman> mactheknife: remove file signal-xenial.list and rename signal-xenial.list.save.1 to signal-xenial.list
[12:28] <realies> error while loading shared libraries: libOpenCL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:28] <realies> how do i fix this with amdgpu-pro?
[12:29] <kiokoman> realies: sudo apt install ocl-icd-opencl-dev
[12:29] <realies> kiokoman, is that not part of the amdgpu-pro driver?
[12:30] <kiokoman> realies: idk
[12:30] <kiokoman> realies: It looks like libOpenCL.so is provided by the ocl-icd-opencl-dev package
[12:30] <realies> how can i search for an installed package that has opencl in its name?
[12:31] <s10gopal> realies, apt list | grep *opencl*
[12:32] <realies> i have libopencl1-amdgpu-pro/unknown 18.10-572953 amd64
[12:32] <s10gopal> realies, which gfx you are using ?
[12:32] <realies> rx580
[12:32] <kiokoman> realies: try dpkg -L libopencl1-amdgpu-pro
[12:32] <realies> dpkg-query: package 'libopencl1-amdgpu-pro' is not installed
[12:33] <realies> uh
[12:49] <janat08> what app store mint uses, can I install that since it's not useless unlike that of ubuntu?
[12:50] <rangemonger> just use apt/synaptic, its not useless
[12:51] <janat08> I don't wish to look for PPA that has an app
[12:51] <BluesKaj> app store ?? this isn't android ;-)
[12:52] <SlidingHorn> rangemonger: well, if that's your feeling on the matter, you're free to use Mint.  Different strokes for different folks
[12:52] <SlidingHorn> oops
[12:52] <SlidingHorn> janat08
[12:52] <rangemonger> SlidingHorn: i think that was directed at janat08
[12:52] <rangemonger> heh yeah
[12:52] <janat08> mint needs reinstall for major release upgrade
[12:52] <rangemonger> synaptic is underappreciated, ive yet to use a better package manager
[12:53] <BluesKaj> !mint | janat08
[12:55] <BluesKaj> rangemonger, muon
[12:56] <rangemonger> BlueShark: i used to use muon when on kde but the search was a bit lacking and it was a bit buggy
[12:56] <rangemonger> if they fixed it up, it would be great
[12:56] <rangemonger> i really hope they do because im not a fan of these store type things
[12:57] <rangemonger> synaptic does need a few things too though like a gui for apt autoremove, autoclean and some other stuff
[12:58] <BluesKaj> rangemonger, never had a problem with muon ...still works great as a reference
[12:58] <rangemonger> ill have to try it again
[12:59] <janat08> so you can expect muon to have chrome/chromium?
[12:59] <rangemonger> janat08: yes
[12:59] <PsychoBoB> i'm using firefox
[13:00] <PsychoBoB> chrome is very slow here
[13:00] <rangemonger> falkons good if you like qt stuff
[13:02] <SlidingHorn> janat08: any software management application will be drawing from the same repositories.  If you're using Ubuntu, chromium is available.  Chrome itself I believe needs to be retrieved from Google
[13:03] <swoc> Hello!
[13:03] <janat08> you mean basically software management apps expect you to add PPAs
[13:03] <rangemonger> no
[13:04] <rangemonger> apt/synaptic isnt only ppas
[13:04] <swoc> I upgraded from ubuntu 16.04LTS to 18.04LTS, I'm using AMD RX480 GPU and fx6300CPU. Running on 4.15.0-22-generic kernel and amdgpu graphics drivers.
[13:04] <swoc> There is some screen flickering and horizontal flashing lines on screen refresh.
[13:04] <swoc> Any ideas?
[13:04] <rangemonger> any package manager that relies on apt will show you a huge list of apps available from the main repositories, no need to add a ppa if they are already there
[13:05] <rangemonger> and chromium is already there
[13:07] <swoc> s/RX480/RX460
[13:09] <rangemonger> are there any current, nice gui progs for remastering a minimal ubuntu install into an install iso?
[13:10] <lesshaste> when I do apt-get install upgrade, should I install the package manager's /etc/default/grub or keep my existing one?
[13:11] <SlidingHorn> rangemonger: Not that I'm aware of :/
[13:11] <rangemonger> lesshaste: the former has worked better for me
[13:11] <lesshaste> thanks
[13:11] <rangemonger> SlidingHorn: ive been using the yakkety ver of systemback, it gets the job done, no big deal
[13:12] <rangemonger> lesshaste: no guarantees it works for you, hope it does though
[13:14] <rangemonger> SlidingHorn: pinguy builder looks promising, gonna give that one a shot
[13:15] <swoc> Soo... no ideas on what should I look into to get rid of the flickering?
[13:15] <lesshaste> rangemonger, thanks.. I picked the latter.. let's see what happens
[13:15] <rangemonger> swoc, everyone here right now might not know, maybe check back again later
[13:15] <rangemonger> lesshaste: yeah, let me know
[13:17] <rangemonger> man, timeshift is the best linux backup prog ive ever seen
[13:18] <lesshaste> what does it do?
[13:18] <ppf> lesshaste: sorry, got disconnected, was that question for me?
[13:19] <lesshaste> ppf, no.. it was for rangemonger
[13:19] <rangemonger> it lets you do system backup snapshots, they get saved either to a regular set of folders for exploring or it can take advantage of btrfs with another mode for insta-backup/restore
[13:19] <ppf> okay
[13:20] <rangemonger> its easy to administer, im able to do snaps and restores over a remote connection
[13:20] <rangemonger> its made experimenting on linux so much easier
[13:20] <BSODjunkie> I am running ubuntu on AWS EC2 server, when I try to run my python3 script that has user input(), backspace key just prints ^H, what should I do?
[13:21] <rangemonger> if the licence allows, it should really be added to the main ubuntu repos
[13:23] <sveinse> Is there a way to get cron to dump its output to the journal when there is no MTA? On 18.04
[13:23] <rangemonger> lesshaste: http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html
[13:24] <SlidingHorn> rangemonger: it's GNU GPL v3, so that's not an issue.  Probably a matter of finding a package maintainer.
[13:24] <rangemonger> SlidingHorn: yeah, i was just checking on the licence, thats awesome
[13:24] <ph88^> hey guys, how can i get rid of apt warnings like these?    W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/elastic-6.x.list:1 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/elastic-6.x.list:2
[13:25] <ppf> rangemonger: why not use a cronjob instead
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> ph88^: Remove the unneeded PPAs and the errors will go away. You are currently subscribed to another PPA that is attempting to manage the same packages.
[13:27] <rangemonger> ppf: ts has a nice shiny gui
[13:27] <ppf> rangemonger: don't see why that's a plus, but fair enough :)
[13:28] <rangemonger> ppf: its commandline too
[13:28] <rangemonger> but for me, its totaly a plus though
[13:37] <swoc> rangemonger: Thanks, will do that!
[13:38] <rangemonger> swoc: sorry i couldnt be of more help
[13:41] <janat08> installed chrome and there's no AA, things are jagged
[13:42] <leftyfb> janat08: AA? jagged?
[13:42] <janat08> i see pixels in letters
[13:42] <rangemonger> lol
[13:43] <leftyfb> janat08: what's AA?
[13:43] <leftyfb> ah, anti-aliasing I'm guessing
[13:43] <janat08> anti-aliasing
[13:43] <leftyfb> janat08: what version of ubuntu?
[13:43] <janat08> 18.04
[13:44] <leftyfb> janat08: does chromium experience the same issue?
[13:44] <sveinse> I'm running 18.04 and are using Chrome without any problems
[13:45] <rangemonger> SlidingHorn: pinguy builder is awesome
[13:46] <janat08> will install proprietary drivers
[13:46] <janat08> because moving windows is a slideshow
[13:47] <leftyfb> janat08: does chromium experience the same issue?
[13:48] <eoli3n> Hi
[13:48] <janat08> haven't installed it
[13:48] <janat08> yet
[13:48] <leftyfb> janat08: might be a good idea to check
[13:48] <eoli3n> how to change default Desktop Environment with lightdm ? this is not working -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Default_Session . When i su user in tty, then startxfce4, no problem
[13:49] <eoli3n> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm prompt nothing
[13:54] <ph88> pragmaticenigma, how do i remove the unneeded PPAs ?
[13:54] <boba> Hi, I am having trouble reading hdf5 files in matlab. h5info works but h5read fails. Could someone guide me in how to read the data?
[13:55] <janat08> leftyfb: same for chromium
[13:57] <vavkamil> hello
[14:01] <vavkamil> I'm on 18.04 and it's kinda laggy, for example when using auto-hide Dock
[14:01] <vavkamil> seems like a lot of people experiencing not so smooth issues as well, any idea what to do?
[14:11] <gochinky_> jkjhjhjkhj
[14:12] <wodencafe> uh oh
[14:12] <gochinky_> popo
[14:13] <dekatch> hi, i wanna install another windows 10 1803 + ubuntu 18.04 lts dualboot machine. the windows drive is formatted to MBR. as i understood that requieres my ubuntu 18.04 lts stick to be MBR as well, but it shows it as EFI. any idea on how to make the ubuntu 18.04lts installer MBR like? is it just the format of the drive before i add the image?
[14:13] <pragmaticenigma> ph88: You can follow this guide: https://itsfoss.com/how-to-remove-or-delete-ppas-quick-tip/
[14:14] <ph88> thx
[14:19] <sebsebseb> hi
[14:34] <stooj> Hi. My USB has stopped working, and I was wondering if there was a way of restarting/fixing it without a reboot? I get the following in my dmesg output whenever I plug anything in (including a keyboard): usb 3-9: device not accepting address 50, error -108
[14:36] <sebsebseb> sbique: live usb ?
[14:43] <arooni> how come i'm seeing  May 22 09:42:07 LilArooni kernel: [  339.164034] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC=64:80:99:18:ab:48:84:d6:d0:14:8d:8a:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.159 DST=192.168.1.101 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=1708 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=46774 DPT=22 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ;; when i have this rule in ufw status::  22                         ALLOW       192.168.1.159
[14:43] <leftyfb> stooj: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WHWTYrVP8d/
[14:44] <francisv> Hi all.  I connected an external display (a projector) to a MacBook Pro 7,1 running Ubuntu 18.10 and it broke somehow the configuration of the video card.  The Ubuntu configuration in this computer has the 'nomodeset' option in the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' variable in /etc/default/grub/.
[14:44] <francisv> This nomodeset is something I added manually
[14:44] <leftyfb> francisv: 18.10 isn't released
[14:44] <leftyfb> francisv: it's not even alpha yet
[14:44] <francisv> Sorry, 18.04
[14:44] <francisv> I meant\
[14:45] <s10gopal> ubuntu 18.04 , unable to create trash dir . https://imgur.com/a/a1x2HV5
[14:45] <francisv> 'nomodeset' was the way I managed to configure GRUB, so it could start the graphic interface
[14:45] <francisv> Why the connection to the external display has done this stop to work?
[14:46] <francisv> I have rebooted the computer
[14:46] <leftyfb> s10gopal: try mkdir -p ~/.local/share/{expunged,files,info}
[14:46] <francisv> If I boot the computer with normal options, it hangs complaining of about the nouveau driver
[14:47] <francisv> I can boot the computer into single-user maintanance Modeuse
[14:47] <francisv> mode
[14:48] <francisv> Anyone who can help me to debug this issue further?
[14:48] <francisv> Thank you!
[14:48] <s10gopal> leftyfb, still same problem
[14:49] <stooj> leftyfb: fantastic, thanks!
[14:52] <francisv> I am assuming that the value of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT is being passed when booting Ubuntu as normal.  How can I ensure it?
[14:53] <francisv> When booting, the linux command is shown in a fraction of second, but I cannot see the 'modenoset' there.
[14:53] <francisv> I don't see the quiet or splash either
[14:53] <francisv> 'quite' or 'splash'
[14:57] <MortezaE> Running gnome-calculator on 18.04 takes more than 90% of CPU and don't run. Also no terminal output.
[14:59] <UserUS> MortezaE: jeez, what machine are you using?
[14:59] <MortezaE> UserUS, amd64
[15:00] <UserUS> MortezaE: processor, ram, cpu speed?
[15:01] <MortezaE> UserUS, Core i3 - 4GB RAM . I had no problem with 16.04. it's strange
[15:07] <ArchaicLord> install 18.04 on a gigabyte p15. After entering disk encrption password boot hangs. used advanced feature to boot usign an older kernal boots fine. any ideas how to get it working with the recent kernal?
[15:10] <Ool> ArchaicLord: no idea but just to know, you use dm-crypt / Luks / cryptsetup isn't it ?
[15:14] <ArchaicLord> option when you install
[15:14] <ArchaicLord> tick the check box
[15:16] <cpare> Is it bad that my Ubuntu Software RAID 10 is composed of disks with no partitions, just /dev/sdc / dev/sda ....
[15:19] <v0lksman> trying to ssh to an ubuntu 16.04 machine with X11forwarding on.  When I connect I get a message saying:  debug1: No xauth program. but when I run xauth as my user it puts me in a shell.
[15:19] <v0lksman> what should I run in the xauth shell to make sure it's doing what it's supposed to?
[15:23] <NewUbuntu> hi
[15:24] <NewUbuntu> does any body have time for a question? I have looked on google for over 3 hours trying to solve this but nobody has the answer
[15:24] <rypervenche> NewUbuntu: Go ahead and ask it.
[15:25] <NewUbuntu> I have installed a lamp server. it works nice. I but my sql root user has NO privileges.. and mysqld gets permission denied
[15:26] <cpare> by default this is the case with MySQL
[15:26] <NewUbuntu> none of the 1000 topics about this i´ve read over these 3 hours cover what to do if this happens..
[15:26] <NewUbuntu> i see
[15:26] <cpare> @NewUbuntu - remote connections are not allowed by default, usually thats one of the first changes you have to make
[15:27] <seizo> just installed kubuntu 18.04, attempting to import everything back into thunderbird, says no application to import data from found. KMail import wizard is installed, anyone have any advice?
[15:27] <cpare> @Newubuntu - https://devdocs.magento.com/guides/v2.0/install-gde/prereq/mysql_remote.html
[15:27] <seizo> cccccchcdeuvrgruvlcthclvvkfdvfbrcjbgglgfldgt
[15:28] <NewUbuntu> I can login through phpmyadmin, and atm i am logging in through the root user in the terminal
[15:28] <seizo> my bad
[15:28] <cpare> @MyUbuntu Log in to the database server.
[15:28] <cpare> Connect to the MySQL database as the root user.
[15:28] <cpare> Enter the following command: GRANT ALL ON <local database name>.* TO <remote web node user name>@<remote web node server ip address> IDENTIFIED BY '<database user password>'; Copy. For example,
[15:29] <NewUbuntu> my root user doesnt have the privilege to issue those commands, that is the problem
[15:29] <cpare> are you sure the user is root?
[15:30] <NewUbuntu> it is the only user ever created for it. the one you enter when you install the program
[15:30] <NewUbuntu> so i have been assuming it should be
[15:30] <cpare> do a "sudo su -" to see if the command prompt turns to a #
[15:30] <nolsen> Guys, it looks like livepatchd, when used, will make apparmor go insane, which makes journald use 100% CPU, and you'll swap like mad.
[15:31] <NewUbuntu> yup
[15:31] <NewUbuntu> works
[15:31] <ank9> hello , when im trying to install something i keep get this : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:31] <ank9> i have ubuntu 18
[15:32] <cpare> @NewUbuntu - By default the ID created in the OS install is not root
[15:32] <luxio> I'm looking for a FOSS RSS reader that when I double click on a YouTube item in the feed, I can configure it to run `vlc <youtube link>`. Anyone know software that can do that?
[15:33] <NewUbuntu> can i get rid of all this spam about who enters and joins? cus is really hard to see what anybody types
[15:33] <luxio> NewUbuntu: what client are you using?
[15:33] <Ool> ank9: if you make ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock is an old file or it is new (you have an other process using it)?
[15:33] <cpare> @NewUbuntu - but they can sudo the commands they need
[15:33] <NewUbuntu> freenode
[15:33] <luxio> NewUbuntu: the web client?
[15:33] <rypervenche> He's on qwebirc
[15:33] <v0lksman> ank9: sudo?
[15:34] <NewUbuntu> yes
[15:34] <ank9> 0ol rw-r----- 1 root root 0 أيار  22 18:21 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:34] <NewUbuntu> @cpare what do i do then?
[15:34] <francisv>  I have done update-grub, and I can see that /boot/grub/grub.cfg adds (as expected) the 'nomodeset' to the 'linux' command.
[15:35] <francisv> I reboot the computer and it continues hanging
[15:35] <francisv> showing errors from nouveau
[15:35] <ank9> 0ol v0lksman , i fixed it from google and it keep coming why?
[15:36] <Ool> ank9: I don"t sure about your date :) is it today ?
[15:36] <ank9> may
[15:36] <ank9> yes
[15:36] <cpare> @NewUbuntu - Check this article - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14779104/how-to-allow-remote-connection-to-mysql
[15:37] <francisv> I'm stuck.  How can I boot my Ubuntu in graphic mode again?  Summary: it used to work until I plugged in an external display to my laptop.
[15:37] <v0lksman> ank9: not sure what you mean by fixed from Google.  Are you running the command with sudo or not?
[15:37] <ank9> with sudo
[15:38] <ank9> v0lksman: i used this https://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[15:38] <Ool> ank9: seems a process use the lock file. perhaps update  is running
[15:38] <ank9> v0lksman: its fix and come back
[15:38] <cpare> @francisv - If you unplug the monitor does it work?
[15:38] <francisv> cpare: It does not work
[15:38] <ank9> 0ol i did ps -A | grep apt
[15:39] <Ool> ank9: try ps auxf |grep apt or |grep dpkg
[15:39] <ank9> there is no process
[15:39] <francisv> it changed the configuration in a persistent mode
[15:39] <Ool> ank9: please an O not a 0 to begin my nickname
[15:39] <cpare> @francisv - what is your current init level?
[15:39] <ank9> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[15:39] <ank9> sry by wrong
[15:39] <ank9> _apt      3879  0.0  0.1  78856  8272 ?        S    18:29   0:00  \_ /usr/lib/apt/methods/http _apt      3880  0.1  0.1  78848  8236 ?        S    18:29   0:01  \_ /usr/lib/apt/methods/http _apt      3886  2.3  0.1  78848  8192 ?        S    18:30   0:12  \_ /usr/lib/apt/methods/http crypto    5506  0.0  0.0  21540  1108 pts/1    S+   18:39   0:00          \_ grep --color=auto apt
[15:39] <francisv> cpare: how can I check the init level?
[15:40] <ank9> crypto    5550  0.0  0.0  21540  1104 pts/1    S+   18:39   0:00          \_ grep --color=auto dpkg
[15:40] <francisv> cpare: N 1
[15:40] <Ool> ank9: so you have a process seems to be the unatended upgrade
[15:40] <cpare> @francisv - from the command prompt try a "sudo init 5"
[15:41] <ank9> 0ol okay should i kill them?
[15:41] <cpare> Mapping between runlevels and systemd targets
[15:41] <cpare>    ┌─────────┬───────────────────┐
[15:41] <cpare>    │Runlevel │ Target            │
[15:41] <cpare>    ├─────────┼───────────────────┤
[15:41] <cpare>    │0        │ poweroff.target   │
[15:41] <cpare>    ├─────────┼───────────────────┤
[15:41] <klr> Please use pastebin.
[15:41] <francisv> cpare: errors from nouveau start
[15:41] <ank9> 0ol , what should i do ?
[15:42] <francisv> cpare: the mouse pointer appears and blinks
[15:42] <francisv> while errors from nouveau are displayed in the terminal
[15:43] <cpare> @francisv - sounds like that's the place to investigate
[15:43] <klr> Does anyone have any information on this mornings supervisor unattended upgrade that cause outages for many people?
[15:44] <francisv> cpare: I had this problem when I upgraded from Ubuntu 17.10 to Ubuntu 18.04.  The solution was to add 'nomodeset' to /etc/defaults/grub, and then run 'update-grub'
[15:44] <francisv> cpare: this used to work until today when I plugged that external displayed
[15:44] <cpare> @francisv - did you try that yet?
[15:45] <cpare> @francisv - Not sure - sorry
[15:45] <francisv> I double checked /etc/defaults/grub, 'nomodeset' is still there
[15:45] <francisv> I re-run update-grub
[15:45] <francisv> I double checked /boot/grub.cfg
[15:46] <francisv> 'nomodeset' is there, as a parameter of the 'linux' command
[15:46] <MortezaE> I see no installed gnome-calculator in my package manager (I installed ubuntu yesterday and didn't remove calculator), Anyway when I run `gnome-calculator` it takes 90% of cpu and nothing happens! and `which`: which gnome-calculator >>>>> /snap/bin/gnome-calculator
[15:46] <MortezaE> wtf is snap
[15:46] <klr> another package management system.
[15:46] <francisv> cpare: what I would like to double check (but I do not know how) is to make sure that that specific configuration is the one selected when booting
[15:47] <ank9> 0ol
[15:47] <ank9> ?
[15:48] <guest253> hi
[15:48] <guest253> anyone alive?
[15:49] <genii> guest253: Better to just ask your actual Ubuntu support question
[15:50] <guest253> hey
[15:50] <guest253> yeah
[15:50] <francisv> all the menu entries in /boot/grub/grub.cfg has nomodeset as argument of the linux command
[15:51] <francisv> addressing the problem from another angle: how do I blacklist nouveau?
[15:52] <francisv> or how do I double check Wayland is not used, but X.org?
[15:52] <guest253> how can I install a firefox extension for a existent plugin? I have it downloaded but the installation program seems to not be able to run it
[15:52] <genii> francisv: The grub.cfg file you're refencing is for legacy grub
[15:52] <francisv> genii: which file should I check instead?
[15:53] <genii> francisv: For grub2 changes should be made in /etc/default/grub  and then to take effect, sudo update-grub
[15:54] <francisv> genii: I added 'nomodeset' in /etc/default/grub, (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT)
[15:54] <francisv> then I did update-grub\
[15:54] <francisv> I noticed that update-grub recreated /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:55] <guest253> its Video DownloadHelper Companion App 1.1.3. once on my hard drive, how do I install it?
[15:56] <guest253> this is it: net.downloadhelper.coapp-1.1.3-1_i386.deb
[15:56] <francisv> again, what puzzles me is: why and how, simply connecting an external display broke my graphic mode in Ubuntu 18.04
[15:56] <guest253> how do I install it?
[15:56] <francisv> I connected my laptop to give a presentation
[15:57] <francisv> luckily I had a USB stick with the presentation as a backup
[16:00] <ericus> How would I free up some space on my /boot-partition? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pSTSwnyW66/
[16:03] <Football_Head> hi
[16:03] <Football_Head> Hi everyone
[16:03] <Football_Head> Newbie here
[16:03] <Football_Head> I need some help
[16:04] <Football_Head> I am currently using windows 10 running on a refurbished Dell
[16:04] <Football_Head> I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 so I can Double Boot
[16:05] <Football_Head> This is for a project
[16:05] <Football_Head> I already ahev a bootable USB prepared but am a bit unclear about the info I am seeing online
[16:06] <Football_Head> Som esay I need to partition before booting to install
[16:06] <Football_Head> while some others say the Ubuntu installer will ask me to partition during the installation process.
[16:06] <Football_Head> Which is it?
[16:07] <ericus> the later
[16:07] <Football_Head> Thank you for all your help
[16:08] <ericus> the installer will partition it for you Football_Head
[16:08] <nacc> ericus: you don't need to clear up any space in /boot ?
[16:08] <ericus> oh, you wanna keep windows?
[16:08] <ericus> then I'm not sure
[16:08] <Football_Head> Yes I want to keep Windows
[16:08] <ericrajuin> you need to shrink the windows partition first to make space
[16:08] <Football_Head> So I have the double boot option
[16:09] <lapaga> Football_Head, or you could run ubuntu in virtualbox
[16:10] <lapaga> Football_Head, since its just for a project
[16:10] <ubuntu_new> shrink the windows partition first. create some unallocated space and install using Ubuntu Installer(where you will get the option to install ubuntu alongside windows)
[16:10] <ericus> nacc yes I do, cannot install the lastest kernel. Not enough space
[16:10] <Football_Head> Its a long project
[16:10] <nacc> ericus: oh i see, you're behind
[16:11] <Football_Head> ericus
[16:11] <nacc> ericus: you have enough to install one kernel, fyi, can you pastebin `ls -ahl /boot` instead?
[16:11] <Football_Head> so I partition first?
[16:12] <ericrajuin> you can use "try ununtu" from the bootable USB, and from it use gparted to manipulate the partitions on your hard drive
[16:12] <ericus> nacc https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dyWgWr32J3/
[16:13] <nacc> ericus: ah, your initrd is rather large, ok
[16:13] <nacc> ericus: so yeah you don't have enough space, it seems like
[16:13] <nacc> ericus: you can manually remove the -37 kernel/initrd if you are on -41 ?
[16:13] <ericus> guess I'll have to do that
[16:16] <nacc> ericus: you can do it with apt, i mean
[16:16] <ericus> yes
[16:17] <nacc> ericus: this is going to be a constant problem, tbh. I would reinstall with a larger /boot
[16:17] <ericus> it's been working fine for a year maybe, until recently
[16:18] <nacc> ericus: it will have this problem regularly, afaict
[16:18] <ericus> will reinstall some day
[16:19] <ericus> thanks nacc
[16:19] <guest253> anyone knows how can I install net.downloadhelper.coapp-1.1.3-1_i386.deb?
[16:21] <DeathTickle> are you talking about the helper program for the video downloader addon for firefox ?
[16:21] <guest253> yes, for firefox
[16:22] <guest253> have it downloaded but I dont know how to install it
[16:23] <DeathTickle> I would suggest using youtube-dl instead of that addon, but you should be able to install it by double clicking the file from a file manager
[16:24] <DeathTickle> if you arent successful with that you can do 'sudo dpkg -i net.downloadhelper….' on the command line
[16:24] <guest253> yes, I also use youtube-dl, but this doesnt work on some sites. I did double clicked it but the wheel keeps spinning forever
[16:28] <guest253> I'll try the command line, but how do I add it the path?
[16:30] <DeathTickle> on the command line, you should 'cd' to the directory containing the .deb or you should specify the full path after 'sudo dpkg -i …'
[16:31] <guest253> ok, thx. havent used linux in a long time hehe
[16:31] <DeathTickle> sure thing
[16:32] <DeathTickle> on the command line you might be able to see some errors that you werent seeing when using the GUI
[16:37] <texla> During boot I am seeing an error message after clean and scan files...Is there any way to slow down the error message to be able to read
[16:38] <DeathTickle> you can read it after boot using the journal
[16:39] <texla> DeathTickle,  Please elaborate about journal
[16:40] <DeathTickle> the messages on boot are saved into files for viewing after boot. You can use a graphical journal viewer or simply 'journalctl' on the command line to view the messages
[16:41] <guest253> DeathTickle, it worked fine from command line. thanks a lot, mate
[16:43] <DeathTickle> so I guess the GUI was just bugging out @guest253
[16:44] <okdana_> hey there, i'm trying to build systemd (`apt-get source`, then `dpkg-buildpackage`) and i'm having a hard time of it
[16:44] <okdana_> it builds successfully, but libsystemd is missing a bunch of library links for some reason
[16:45] <okdana_> is this the kind of place i can ask about that?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> okdana_  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:45] <guest253> yes, something wrong with the gui
[16:50] <janat08> what to do if ubuntu does no AA, everything is jagged
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> what's AA
[16:54] <janat08> anti-aliasing
[16:57] <guest253> bye now
[16:57] <genco> Hi
[16:58] <kiriuha> hello
[16:58] <kiriuha> mama
[16:58] <kiriuha> no
[16:58] <DeathTickle> I'm having a really hard time getting the Nvidia drivers to load on my upgraded 18.04 machine. I keep getting the nouveau driver loaded even though I have installed the nvidia-driver package
[16:59] <kiriuha> you #ubuntu
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> kiriuha  this is the ubuntu support channel, feel free to ask your ubuntu question
[17:01] <kiriuha> gy
[17:01] <kiriuha> yot
[17:01] <kiriuha> hi
[17:01] <kiriuha> ?
[17:01] <kiriuha> ?
[17:01] <kiriuha> ?
[17:01] <leftyfb> kiriuha: please stop posting random text here. This is a support channel.
[17:01] <aboabo> hola
[17:01] <aboabo> anyone using lubuntu?
[17:02] <leftyfb> aboabo: this is not the appropriate please to conduct a survey
[17:02] <kiokoman> join #lubuntu
[17:03] <kiriuha> tor
[17:03] <kiriuha> torp
[17:03] <kiriuha> gfgd
[17:03] <kiriuha> gds
[17:03] <aboabo> i recommend openbox + fbpanel + rox
[17:03] <kiriuha> gdf
[17:03] <leftyfb> !op kiriuha
[17:03] <kiriuha> gd
[17:03] <leftyfb> !op | kiriuha
[17:04] <leftyfb> aboabo: do you have a support question?
[17:04] <aboabo> what?
[17:04] <aboabo> what is a support question?
[17:04] <lapaga> kiriuha does this every day...guess there is nothing to do where he lives
[17:05] <kiriuha> !op | Llama_
[17:05] <francisv> DeathTickle: I also have problems with my NVIDIA card in Ubuntu 18.04.  I have not managed to make it work.
[17:05] <kiokoman> annndd .. gone
[17:05] <janat08> how to stop everything from being jagged
[17:06] <janat08> that is turn on anti-aliasing
[17:06] <janat08> my resolution matches screen
[17:06] <janat08> i see pixels
[17:06] <aboabo> i haven't upgraded yet, still using 17.10
[17:06] <aboabo> tried xrandr ?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> !17.10
[17:07] <aboabo> yeah, 17.10
[17:07] <aboabo> so what's the difference? i don't know
[17:07] <aboabo> i use openbox + fbpanel + rox
[17:07] <aboabo> beautiful
[17:08] <ndavis> All: Trying to load lamp-server!  Cmd is: "tasksel install lamp-server".  Alway fails as Snort tried installing earlier and fails, since it only recognizes eth0 and I'm 100% wifi so on wlan0 is active.  How do I congfig snort to look at wlan0 or how do I clear the snort install, so other installs will work?
[17:09] <DeathTickle> francisv what have you tried so far ? I have tried removing/reinstalling both nouveau and nvidia-driver packages. I have tried adding nouveau to the blacklist in modprobe but no success
[17:10] <aboabo> I always love APU!
[17:10] <francisv> I have tried using 'nomodeset' to grub
[17:10] <francisv> DeathTickle: ^
[17:10] <francisv> I can access to my computer only in recovery mode
[17:10] <francisv> only terminal
[17:11] <francisv> how did you blacklist nouveau?
[17:11] <DeathTickle> you modified /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? ouch that is pretty bad
[17:11] <aboabo> my desktop is beautiful
[17:11] <kiokoman> ndavis: dpkg -P snort
[17:11] <francisv> DeathTickle: no, i modified /etc/default/grub
[17:12] <ash_worksi> how do you 'enable' altgr on 18.04?
[17:12] <DeathTickle> francisv normally you can add a file with "blacklist nouveau" under /etc/modprob.d/ but that didnt work for me
[17:12] <lapaga> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux might be a good read
[17:12] <francisv> DeathTickle: I till try blacklisting now
[17:12] <francisv> lets se
[17:12] <francisv> e
[17:13] <DeathTickle> and I dont think adding nomodeset is correct, since the nvidia driver now uses kernel modesetting
[17:15] <kiokoman> nvidia-driver-390
[17:15] <kiokoman> ?
[17:15] <Eca_flipette> re
[17:16] <Eca_flipette> I wanted to say that without a good java, one does not simply walk into PL/SQL \o/ .O. \o/
[17:16] <francisv> I added a file called /etc/modprob.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf, and inside 'blacklist nouveau'.  I also added 'blacklist neuveau' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.  Rebooted but still nouveau complaining
[17:19] <DeathTickle> francisv yeah I have the same thing, I dont know why it isnt being blacklisted for real
[17:22] <rpittau> francisv: please verify the name of the mod you're blacklisting
[17:22] <rpittau> francisv: should be ' blacklist nouveau '
[17:23] <francisv> rpittau: name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf verified
[17:23] <rpittau> francisv: you should also try to add ' options nouveau modeset=0 ' in the same blacklist conf file and regenerate initramfs
[17:23] <Eca_flipette> Did you know Kiri &copy; -uha; is a well protected cheese recipe in France ?
[17:24] <francisv> rpittau: options in blacklist.conf or in blacklist-nouveau.conf?
[17:24] <Eca_flipette> I'm sorry i'm on the wrong chat...
[17:24] <rpittau> francisv: blacklist-nouveau.conf
[17:25] <DeathTickle> what is the difference between all the blacklist-* files ? do the filenames matter ? rpittau
[17:25] <francisv> in blacklist-nouveau.conf I have two lines now. One line 'blacklist nouveau' second line:'options nouveau modeset=0'
[17:25] <francisv> rebooting..
[17:25] <rpittau> francisv: please regenarete initramfs before rebootin
[17:26] <francisv> rpittau: ok, how? :-)
[17:26] <rpittau> francisv: update-initramfs -u
[17:27] <francisv> rpittau: done, rebooting
[17:28] <francisv> worked out!
[17:28] <francisv> Thank you very much, rpittau!\
[17:28] <DeathTickle> lucky you !
[17:28] <rpittau> francisv: yup no problem ;)
[17:29] <DeathTickle> I'm getting loads of 'sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory' on update-initramfs, sounds like dead filesystem :S ?
[17:31] <francisv> btw, an error in my upgraded Ubuntu 18.04: complains about Kernel-oops
[17:32] <francisv> It must be something related to the upgrade
[17:32] <francisv> anyone has an idea of why this error after upgrading from 17.10?
[17:32] <nacc> francisv: do you have the exact message?
[17:33] <francisv> In Title BUG: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000
[17:33] <francisv> nacc ^
[17:33] <nacc> francisv: uh, that's a kernel panic
[17:33] <nacc> francisv: well, kernel bug, to be clear
[17:34] <nacc> francisv: can you use a pastebin and paste the whole `dmesg` output?
[17:35] <francisv> ok
[17:36] <francisv> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VWRVvKQkmS/
[17:37] <ubuntu> as
[17:37] <ubuntu> czesc
[17:37] <nacc> francisv: no BUG in the current kernel
[17:37] <francisv> I see, that message was not very useful
[17:38] <francisv> nacc I run dmesg -kH
[17:38] <DeathTickle> mmm… my nvidia driver issue might be related to secure boot since i have 'PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key' after drm start in kernel log :(
[17:38] <nacc> francisv: not sure what you mean
[17:38] <nacc> francisv: when did you see the message you said?
[17:39] <francisv> some minutes ago, I have the Report Problem window open
[17:40] <nacc> francisv: are you sure it wasn't from the prior kernel?
[17:40] <francisv> nacc: the date in the "report problem" window is from some minutes ago
[17:41] <francisv> but many parts of the messages refer to it as it was installed from Zesty
[17:41] <francisv> and the error refers to the upgrade date as well
[17:41] <francisv> I could take an screenshot of the report problem window, but it is too long if I expand each node
[17:42] <francisv> there most be a way to get the same message in Terminal, is not?
[17:43] <nacc> francisv: I don't know what you mean now. You're referring a lot to 'it', 'same message', etc., but I'm not at your computer and don't know what those refer to.
[17:43] <nacc> francisv: it is not obvious to me if your current system has the issue, or if it's reporting an error during the upgrade
[17:43] <francisv> nacc sorry, I explain again:
[17:44] <francisv> I upgraded my Ubuntu from 17.10 to 18.04 7 days ago
[17:44] <francisv> When booting my computer some minutes ago, a window to report an error appears
[17:45] <yourname_> im using 18.04 and my wifi just stopped working.. even after reboot and restarting the service its still not even detected unless i unplug it and it still doesnt see anything but the usbwifi card
[17:45] <francisv> The window has a lot of "nodes", with many messages
[17:45] <francisv> the Title "node" states:
[17:45] <francisv> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000
[17:45] <matjam> francisv: if it doesn't come back you're probably fine
[17:46] <francisv> matjam: I have seen the error many times already, but I have not paid too much attention
[17:46] <francisv> I can probably live with it for a while :-)
[17:49] <Nik736> Hi guys, I am struggling with converting my network config to netplan, anyone around that could assist? Would appreciate it, thanks :) Old Config: https://pastebin.com/YjMRhhAa New Netplan Config that does not work: https://pastebin.com/2msq7hYV
[17:49] <matjam> francisv: are you sure it was all 0's and wasn't some other number at the end?
[17:49] <matjam> francisv:
[17:49] <matjam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux?field.searchtext=null+pointer+dereference&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_pat
[17:49] <gedfenir> Hello
[17:49] <matjam> ch=&field.has_no_package=
[17:50] <francisv> matjam: I am so sure all are 0s.  I have the window in front of me right now
[17:50] <nacc> Nik736: you may get more help in #ubuntu-server, fwiw, but what happens?
[17:50] <matjam> crap that didn't paste well
[17:51] <matjam> francisv: it's probably one of these: https://goo.gl/nfyEC9
[17:51] <matjam> francisv: and these things get automatically submitted to ubuntu so what happens is eventually if its a bug, they'll fix it, and release a new kernel to fix it
[17:51] <ash_worksi> someone hilight me again?
[17:52] <jorc> i need help with a problem on my ubuntu 18.04
[17:52] <IanLiu> I've just installed PostgreSQL 9.6 with `sudo snap install postgresql96`. Now I'm trying to execute the `postgresql96.pgdump` program which should create a directory at ~/files, but I'm getting `pg_dump: [directory archiver] could not create directory "files": Permission denied`. Is there any permission I should give to this program so it can create files in my home directory?
[17:52] <ash_worksi> oh wow, I didn't realize what channel I was in
[17:52] <francisv> matjam: yes, let's hope this will not make my (and others') system unstable and will be fix fast.  Thank you.
[17:53] <jorc> i need help with a problem on my ubuntu 18.04
[17:53] <nacc> IanLiu: the snap is supported here: https://github.com/commandprompt/postgresql-snap
[17:53] <nacc> IanLiu: (and there is an email to contact in `snap info postgresql96`)
[17:53] <leftyfb> !ask | jorc
[17:54] <matjam> IanLiu: any reason you used the snap and not a normal package?
[17:54] <CommandPrompt> Lol I got tagged in that
[17:54] <jorc> okay ubottu
[17:54] <ash_worksi> what was that application for seeing more detailed infomration about apt packages?
[17:54] <ash_worksi> information*
[17:54] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: apt-cache show
[17:54] <IanLiu> matjam: because the package from repo isn't updated, and the PG system I'm using is 9.6
[17:55] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: no I mean it was a gui program
[17:55] <jorc> my computer freezes randomly. i think that the memory become full so fast, but i dont know
[17:55] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: depends on the version and flavor of ubuntu
[17:56] <nacc> IanLiu: you are trusting that company, in this case, to provide you  your database server
[17:56] <nacc> IanLiu: afaict, 9.6 is only in artful and is up to 9.6.8; did you really need 9.6.9?
[17:57] <matjam> ash_worksi: I see postgresql 10.3 in the repo .. and if you need older versions you can use the postgresql official packages from https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[17:57] <nacc> matjam: wrong person?
[17:57] <matjam> ash_worksi: of course you'd need to get support for those packages in the #postgresql channel or whereever they hang out
[17:57] <matjam> yes wrong person
[17:57] <matjam> lol
[17:57] <s10gopal> ubuntu 18.04 , unable to create trash dir . https://imgur.com/a/a1x2HV5
[17:57] <matjam> IanLiu: I meant you
[17:58] <IanLiu> nacc: I'm on xenial (16.04), and the package version there is 9.5
[17:58] <matjam> s10gopal: check the ownership & permissions of /home/gopal
[17:58] <nacc> IanLiu: ok
[17:58] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: well, on 16 I was advised a program that was pretty nice... for some reason, the word 'snap' made me think of it... in any event, I'm on 18 now
[17:58] <IanLiu> nacc: and when I issue the pg_dump command I get `pg_dump: server version: 9.6.6; pg_dump version: 9.5.12`
[17:58] <matjam> IanLiu: I'd use the official packages from postgresql.org mate
[17:59] <IanLiu> matjam: yeah, I was wondering how trustful are snap packages
[17:59] <nacc> IanLiu: what pgdump command?
[17:59] <matjam> IanLiu: snaps are generally ok but personally if I'm doing anything with server software I'd want that to be an actual dpkg
[17:59] <matjam> IanLiu: I'm ok with snap for spotify and other graphical apps
[17:59] <zealsham_> i have an issue with this particular command
[17:59] <zealsham_> sudo iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp — dport 80 -j REDIRECT — to-port 3000
[17:59] <zealsham_> it gives an error
[18:00] <IanLiu> matjam: ok, thanks. I will try finding an official dpkg
[18:00] <matjam> IanLiu: https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[18:00] <s10gopal> matjam, drwxr-xr-x 23 gopal gopal 4096 May 22 21:02 gopal
[18:00] <matjam> IanLiu: and they support those packages on #postgresql
[18:02] <matjam> s10gopal: s10gopal find /home/gopal \! -user gopal -ls
[18:03] <matjam> s10gopal: I mean, "find /home/gopal \! -user gopal -ls
[18:03] <matjam> ugh
[18:03] <matjam> I hope you know what I mean
[18:03] <zealsham_> did anyone get my question
[18:03] <matjam> zealsham_: waiting for the error
[18:03] <matjam> zealsham_: but looks like you have a space between - and dport
[18:04] <s10gopal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7nxNngnNT9/
[18:04] <zealsham_> matjam: the error Bad argument `—'
[18:05] <s10gopal> matjam, how to print header ? ls -lh dont print header
[18:05] <matjam> zealsham_: yeah, so, note the command you have an argument, dport, but it should be -dport
[18:06] <DeathTickle> seems like there are loads of problems since 18.04 on nvidia drivers :(
[18:06] <matjam> zealsham_: you have a space where it has "- dport 80" it should be "-dport 80
[18:06] <matjam> DeathTickle: working great for me here
[18:06] <zealsham_> matjam: Bad argument `—dport' still giving an error
[18:07] <s10gopal> matjam, ran it using su http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8H94bCTZR5/
[18:07] <matjam> s10gopal: yeah so you probably ran some graphical tools using "sudo command", don't do that, it will create files owned by root in your home directory
[18:07] <matjam> s10gopal: sudo chown -R gopal:gopal /home/gopal
[18:09] <matjam> DeathTickle: what problems are you having?
[18:09] <DeathTickle> matjam could you help me out figuring out ur config. Do u have nvidia-driver-390 installed ? and if so do u have any command line parameters for nouveau/nvidia ?
[18:09] <matjam> zealsham_: it's --dport not -dport
[18:09] <s10gopal> matjam, thx . i can trash files now
[18:09] <matjam> zealsham_: sometimes if you cut and paste from a website, they will mangle -- into a single - or into a html long -
[18:10] <matjam> s10gopal: neato
[18:11] <zealsham_> matjam: ah!!, thanks for that info
[18:11] <DeathTickle> matjam my problem is nvidia driver isnt loading even with having it selected, and nouveau blacklisted
[18:11] <matjam> DeathTickle: I use nvidia-driver-390. Once I selected it from the Additional Drivers panel in "Software & Updates", I rebooted, then I run nvidia-settings and configure everything the way I want it, and save configuration to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - that's literally all I had to do
[18:12] <matjam> zealsham_: so for the syntax check "man iptables" and "man iptables-extensions" when you get those kinds of errors, and make sure you're using the right syntax.
[18:13] <matjam> zealsham_: also doing iptables raw like that is not recommended, you should use ufw
[18:14] <zealsham_> matjam: how do you do that with ufw
[18:14] <matjam> DeathTickle: oh, yeah, someone yesterday was having that issue too
[18:14] <matjam> zealsham_: dunno, you'd have to check the man page :P
[18:15] <matjam> zealsham_: but it's the best way to persist any changes so that when you reboot they keep working
[18:15] <matjam> DeathTickle: gimme a sec
[18:17] <matjam> DeathTickle: can you install pastebinit with "sudo apt install pastebinit" and then do "sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit"
[18:17] <matjam> DeathTickle: it should print a url on the command line, please share it here
[18:19] <DanielPowerNL> How can I switch to the old behavior of typing to select files and folder in nautilus? This new search functionality is way too slow.
[18:19] <DanielPowerNL> With the hold behavior I could type the first two or three letters and immediately hit enter to quickly navigate my filesystem with the keyboard.
[18:19] <DanielPowerNL> the old behavior*
[18:20] <DeathTickle> matjam will do
[18:21] <yourname_> im using 18.04 and my wifi just stopped working.. even after reboot and restarting the service its still not even detected unless i unplug it and it still doesnt see anything but the usbwifi card
[18:21] <swein> can we discuss 18.04 server in here now?
[18:22] <nacc> swein: yes, although there is #ubuntu-server
[18:25] <DeathTickle> matjam after disabling secure boot the nvidia module was able to load but now I am in front of a black screen
[18:26] <matjam> DeathTickle: does ctl-alt-f1 give you a VT
[18:26] <matjam> you could try F1-F6
[18:32] <DeathTickle> matjam I can get to the gdm login with nvidia drivers and VTs
[18:32] <ash_worksi> is there a way to reduce the spacing in the context menu on 18?
[18:33] <DeathTickle> but after that gnome desktop doesnt appear
[18:33] <matjam> DeathTickle: yeah ok so once you log in, run nvidia-settings and configure everything in there, then save the config to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot and see if it picks up stuff properly after that. I find the nvidia drivers need that xorg.conf file
[18:33] <matjam> DeathTickle: give it time
[18:35] <sun> hello
[18:35] <DeathTickle> matjam I am getting 2-3 FPS now :S
[18:36] <matjam> DeathTickle: does not sound like the drivers are actually running, sounds like you're in framebuffer mode or something
[18:36] <matjam> ioria is good at diagnosing these kinds of problems
[18:36] <matjam> nacc: you got any ideas?
[18:37] <yuriy> hello. i did enable my external desktop and fond that margin on the bottom
[18:37] <yuriy> standart panel won't render some pixels from bottom
[18:37] <yuriy> pls look here:https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOg9KPcNjJ8zXL1I_xFnYyjmfOqO7giYc1Nu4cGEgvPI52D771JCF7CHv28rSwG8g/photo/AF1QipML_rtKj1DSyVH6YavWx5LgnLi20MNExJxhA2ae?key=UjA4VnZvSjJjLUtMWVBrRXA0aGFqVnVMS3ZJZFFn
[18:37] <yuriy> this is kde
[18:40] <DeathTickle> matjam starting nvidia-settings shows my GPU is using nvidia 390.48 but yeah this is completely unsuable. I must have a modeset settings wrong or something
[18:40] <nacc> matjam: sorry, summary?
[18:40] <matjam> DeathTickle: he is running nvidia but suffering really bad performance, before it wouldn't even show him a screen but we got to that point now as ^
[18:41] <ihor3749> hi
[18:42] <Dynetrekk> hi, snap search fails for me, is api.snapcraft.io down?
[18:43] <Dynetrekk> I've also tried on my work network via VPN if that matters
[18:43] <DeathTickle> nacc & matjam: I'm getting a continuous flow of 'asynchronous wait on fence NVIDIA:nvidia.prime:65 timed out' I'm guessing this some modesetting failure
[18:45] <sparrowsword> am using a raspberry pi and trying to connect to my wdcloud drive.... following the instructions on this site... https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95277 i have found my drives using smbclient -L MYBOOKLIVE, however i am not able to mount it using the sudo mount -t citfs.... i do have this installed ofc
[18:47] <basil2x> Ubuntu 18.04  My Epson printer is rejecting print jobs.  Any ideas?
[18:47] <DeathTickle> what is your error message sparrowsword
[18:48] <matjam> DeathTickle: do the xorg.conf thing and restart first and see if it fixes
[18:50] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: event not found
[18:53] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: ive removed the rw file_mode stuff... and now it asks for a password, but i keep getting a Unable to find suitable address.
[18:54] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: on windows i have folders on the cloud mapped as drives, not sure if this will conflict with that i am doing... not sure if i am supposed to use wdcloud login credentials or windows credentials... tried both, to no avail
[18:55] <basil2x> Test page prints fine, but all other jobs get cancelled.  Control Panel says 'printer not accepting jobs'.  Ubuntu 18.04 Epson XP640 printer.
[18:57] <ash_worksi> is there a way to list everything available from a particular source using apt?
[18:58] <DeathTickle> matjam: so I removed the kernel parameters relating to nvidia modeset and it worked out ! wooot
[18:58] <matjam> DeathTickle: awesome
[18:59] <DeathTickle> so the root issue was Secure Boot, had never thought of that
[18:59] <DeathTickle> sparrowsword let me see, I am trying the same
[19:01] <donofrio> ash_worksi, you mean apt-cache search?
[19:02] <DeathTickle> sparrowsword: I was able to mount my share using 'sudo mount -t cifs -o user=guest //macproupstairs.local/Videos /mnt/'
[19:02] <DeathTickle> and password empty
[19:02] <DeathTickle> macproupstairs.local is the hostname of my samba server
[19:03] <ash_worksi> donofrio: idk; I basically wanted to get a list of everything offered by a particular repo
[19:03] <DeathTickle> and Videos is the name of my share
[19:04] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: i am trying the same, keeps giving an address error...
[19:04] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: Unable to find suitable address.
[19:05] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: sudo mount -t cifs  -o user=admin //10.0.0.87/ /mnt/mybook
[19:05] <DeathTickle> shouldnt you add the share name at the end of the address ? eg: //10.0.0.87/myshare
[19:06] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: tried that as well...
[19:06] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: probably something really stupid im doing wrong...
[19:07] <doug16k> sparrowsword, you probably need to sudo apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:07] <sparrowsword> doug16k: cifs-utils is already the newest version (2:6.7-1).
[19:08] <sparrowsword> perhaps my settings in wdcloud are incorrect somehow...
[19:08] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: myshare is just the name of a folder right?
[19:08] <DeathTickle> can you mount that share using another computer ?
[19:08] <tgm4883> sparrowsword: out of curiosity, what about doing sudo mount -t cifs  -o "user=admin,ip=10.0.0.87" //10.0.0.87/ /mnt/mybook
[19:08] <DeathTickle> no myshare is the name u set it
[19:08] <doug16k> sparrowsword, share name is share name. it isn't necessarily the same as a folder name
[19:09] <DeathTickle> you can find it using the smbclient -L method
[19:09] <DeathTickle> find the share name that is
[19:09] <sparrowsword> tgm4883: Unable to find suitable address.
[19:09] <doug16k> sparrowsword, what is the computer name of the server?
[19:09] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: i can access it on this computer, but i cant access it on my linux boxes
[19:10] <sparrowsword> doug16k: WDMyCloud
[19:10] <doug16k> sparrowsword, ok, what does this say: nmblookup WDMyCloud
[19:10] <tgm4883> sparrowsword: I wonder if it's because you're using .local TLD.
[19:10] <sparrowsword> doug16k: 10.0.0.187 WDMyCloud<00>
[19:10] <DeathTickle> 'smbclient -L WDMyCloud' will give u a list of shares as the first list
[19:10] <doug16k> then 87 is wrong
[19:11] <sparrowsword> >.>
[19:11] <DeathTickle> does your WDMyCloud have a hostname ? better use that than the ip address
[19:11] <sparrowsword> doug16k: hey what do you know... something stupid...
[19:12] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: tried.. wouldnt let me... i had the wrong ip....well... i really do appreciate the help DeathTickle: doug16k: tgm4883:
[19:12] <Medu_chatWithMe> re
[19:13] <sparrowsword> how do i make this permanent? sudo mount -t cifs  -o  user=admin //10.0.0.187/Public /mnt/mybook
[19:14] <Butterfly^> anyone got an idea how to automatically mute sound when pc goes into lock/screen saver? on top of that, i'd like to unmute as well when logging back in
[19:14] <DeathTickle> sparrowsword: you can add something similar to /etc/fstab
[19:15] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: hmm
[19:15] <DeathTickle> sparrowsword: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:16] <matjam> Butterfly^: I googled, this seems plausible https://askubuntu.com/questions/429716/how-to-run-a-command-or-script-at-screen-lock-unlock
[19:16] <Butterfly^> sweet, thanks matjam o/
[19:16] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: Thank You :D
[19:17] <matjam> Butterfly^: amixer -q -D pulse sset Master mute
[19:17] <matjam> Butterfly^: then unmute to unmute
[19:17] <Butterfly^> right
[19:17] <Ctrl_Null> has anyone gotten an eGPU working with ubuntu?
[19:18] <Butterfly^> i need to write a custom script for it, as when i log back in, i want it to restore mute/unmute, based on how the state was before going into lock
[19:18] <DeathTickle> amixer ?  shouldnt it be a pulseaudio command or something ?
[19:18] <Butterfly^> although, that's optional, and wouldn't be too much of an issue if i couldn't do that last one, the mute on screensaver/lock activation is what's crucial
[19:19] <matjam> DeathTickle: thats the -D pulse thing, i think
[19:19] <ash_worksi> is there a command to translate an ubuntu version number into a codename?
[19:19] <Butterfly^> sometimes i forget to mute, and then at 4 AM, someone highlights me (while i been playing loud music earlier), and it wakes me up in a shock
[19:19] <matjam> right
[19:19] <matjam> I feel your pain
[19:20] <DeathTickle> lsb_release -a gives you both codename and version
[19:20] <matjam> Butterfly^: or you fall asleep with spotify playing and wonder what the music is at 4am
[19:20] <hggdh> and lsb_release -c gives out just the code name
[19:20] <Butterfly^> matjam : lol, yeah, that's pretty horrible too :)
[19:20] <DeathTickle> now that i got my nvidia gpu running I can try some steam games !
[19:21] <matjam> DeathTickle: factorio!
[19:21] <DeathTickle> sparrowsword: tell us if you got it working
[19:21] <Butterfly^> in my honest opinion, i think the screensaver or lock screen settings should have an option for that, just a checkbox to "mute when lock/screensaver"
[19:22] <Butterfly^> have fun DeathTickle o/
[19:22] <sparrowsword> DeathTickle: Yes
[19:22] <Butterfly^> DeathTickle : Raft is native linux game, not that bad actually if you're into that kind of game
[19:23] <DeathTickle> Butterfly^: is it on steam ?
[19:23] <Butterfly^> DeathTickle : no steam needed
[19:23] <Butterfly^> DeathTickle : https://raft.itch.io/raft
[19:23] <Butterfly^> DeathTickle : runs as portable app i believe
[19:23] <Butterfly^> yes it does
[19:23] <Butterfly^> DeathTickle : apparently it will be on steam May 23th 2018
[19:23] <DeathTickle> Butterfly^: sounds like my worst nightmare ><. Alone in the sea on a raft
[19:24] <Butterfly^> that's tomorrow :)
 my computer freezes randomly. i think that the memory become full so fast, but i dont know
[19:25] <jorc> plz help
[19:27] <BaKKaR> hello everyone ... what is with BT in 18.04. I cannot find any BT devices in  the BT Settings
[19:27] <BaKKaR> neither my phone detects my laptop
[19:28] <Butterfly^> BaKKaR : open terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and type: rfkill list
[19:28] <Butterfly^> bluetooth blocked in that list? hard or soft locked?
[19:30] <janat08> can anybody tell me how much slower is disk access on VM?
[19:30] <BaKKaR> Butterfly^, yes it is and it says no for both hard and soft
[19:30] <matjam> janat08: depends, usual rule of thumb is like, 5% but depends on whether you're using virtio, which io scheduler you use, etc.
[19:30] <Butterfly^> BaKKaR : that's all i know about bluetooth really, i hated bluetooth when i went to the launch convention about 18 years ago, and i still hate it today, as it's far from reliable and a total hit or miss :)
[19:31] <Butterfly^> BaKKaR : i'm sure someone else here can help you though
[19:31] <janat08> matjam: so negligable?
[19:31] <BaKKaR> thank you Butterfly^
[19:32] <matjam> janat08: like I said, depends, but yeah, its not usually a huge overhead, virtualization is pretty good these days. Especially KVM+Qemu with virtio, its pretty fast, using the noop scheduler on the guest
[19:32] <DeathTickle> BaKKaR have you tried discovering your bluetooth devices from the commandline ?
[19:32] <jagez> Umm, help! I'm getting http 403 forbidden for files on old-releases.ubuntu.com, e.g. this one: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch/usb-modeswitch_2.2.5+repack0-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb . Shouldn't this file be available?
[19:33] <Butterfly^> jagez : that seems normal
[19:33] <BaKKaR> DeathTickle, can you guide me how
[19:33] <EriC^^> jagez: seems like some error on the server or something
[19:33] <DeathTickle> BaKKaR: open a terminal and type 'bluetoothctl'
[19:34] <jagez> Butterfly^, The file is listed on the server but is forbidden, this is normal for an ubuntu repository?
[19:34] <EriC^^> jagez: no
[19:35] <Butterfly^> jagez : that's not what i meant :) i mean, the link is forbidden to all apparently, i didn't mean it should be like that :)
[19:35] <jagez> haha ok :)
[19:36] <BaKKaR> DeathTickle, it says no default controlers and when i try list .. it comes with nothing :(
[19:36] <jagez> Butterfly^, is there someone who might need a prod about that? It's making running an old software test on 16.10 practically impossible
[19:36] <doug16k> janat08, with virt-io, vm disk performance is almost native speed. besides that, the cache configuration is the main determining factor
[19:37] <doug16k> janat08, you can set the disk caching to unsafe for max performance, but if power is lost or the vm is killed, corruption is possible
[19:37] <jagez> EriC^^, thanks :)
[19:37] <matjam> BaKKaR: can you install pastebinit with "sudo apt install pastebinit" and then run "lshw | pastebinit" it should come back with a URL, share the URL with us.
[19:39] <matjam> BaKKaR: actually, use "sudo lshw | patebinit"
[19:39] <matjam> erk
[19:39] <janat08> I decided to do no configuration and go with workstation pro 14
[19:39] <BaKKaR> matjam, ok
[19:39] <matjam> sudo lshw | pastebinit
[19:46] <BaKKaR> matjam, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PQWvZcFdzb/
[19:48] <matjam> BaKKaR: you might be out of luck right now until there's a patch: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032417/ubuntu-18-04-lts-bluetooth-discovery-not-working?rq=1
[19:48] <matjam> BaKKaR: seems like others have the same problem
[19:48] <BaKKaR> matjam, i see
[19:48] <BaKKaR> Ok, another reason to try Manjaro I guess :-/
[19:50] <BaKKaR> i filed another bug for Display servers crashing after system suspend ...
[19:51] <matjam> BaKKaR: I'm looking for the bug tracking this issue in launchpad
[19:51] <BaKKaR> i will do a test for the bug maintainers and i think i am going to rest this install for now
[19:52] <matjam> BaKKaR: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1764645
[19:52] <matjam> looks like fix was released
[19:52] <matjam> upstream
[19:52] <BaKKaR> matjam, let me check
[19:53] <matjam> BaKKaR: so you may be able to use the PPA here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.16.9/
[19:53] <matjam> BaKKaR: until the new kernel is released then go back to official kernel
[20:00] <BaKKaR> matjam, thank you very much for your support
[20:01] <matjam> BaKKaR: no worries
[20:01] <BaKKaR> matjam, this will not any of the other functions?
[20:02] <matjam> BaKKaR: I don't know, but I'd give it a try, it should in principle just work
[20:02] <BaKKaR> matjam, thank you again brother
[20:04] <libben> is this correct channel for 18.04?
[20:04] <matjam> libben: yup
[20:17] <donofrio> anyone made a port for my platform?  www.tinyurl.com/donofriog5inxi (had to ask cause 16.04 is feeling long in the teeth)
[20:22] <DeathTickle> if I've upgraded from kubuntu 17 to 18.04 I should have everything up to date right ?
[20:25] <RandomNoob> Hello guys how to disable mouse blink in xfce?
[20:27] <tgm4883> DeathTickle: you'd normally be up to date with what's in the repos, yes
[20:27] <vex> can anyone tell me if kernel livepatch is expected to work on 18.04 ?
[20:28] <i_heart_penguins> anyone know how to search apt minus libs? otherwise it tends to return way too much
[20:29] <vex> I get this output from `canonical-livepatch status` on 18.04 https://paste.nothing.net.nz/KSHSV0Tudh#MLnYQdy7UKz/u3OTwhkwVA$0
[20:30] <vex> same result on different hardware. (same kernel/release)
[20:32] <funky007> hi everyone - i am new to linux and ubuntu.  Just installed on my Rpi.  Very exciting times indeed.
[20:33] <DeathTickle> gl hf funky007
[20:33] <libben> Anyone has seen anything like htop but with added cputemp ?
[20:34] <kiokoman> i_heart_penguins:  sudo apt search blablabla | egrep -v "lib"
[20:34] <kiokoman> ?
[20:34] <i_heart_penguins> kiokoman: danke
[20:36] <i_heart_penguins> i can also use grep. what's the difference?
[20:36] <IntelCore> How read the journal - that flies by on loading
[20:37] <kiokoman> i_heart_penguins: egrep is 100% equivalent to grep -E
[20:39] <BaKKaR> matjam, hello again
[20:40] <BaKKaR> matjam, just to confirm it worked with some upstream kernel
[20:40] <matjam> BaKKaR: awesome
[20:40] <BaKKaR> matjam, 4.15.13-041513-generic
[20:41] <BaKKaR> not stable though .. connects and disconnects on its own
[20:41] <libben> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/5bgdgb/htop_202_extended_with_cpu_temperature_cpu_freq/
[20:41] <libben> That would be a nice feature in regular htop
[20:41] <libben> hmm
[20:42] <Edisto> after going idle and having to relog, my second monitor becomes unknown when I return and I can't get any higher than 1380x700. Is that a command to reboot monitor drivers?
[20:45] <IntelCore> Edisto - what is the resolution of monitor
[20:46] <IntelCore> What is this about?  -- com.ubuntu.OneConf[1748]: WARNING:oneconf.hosts:Error in loading other_hosts file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
[20:49] <IntelCore> What is this about? -- lightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:51] <Guest69171> Is there a way to force a terminal command even though "dependencies are not satisfied"?
[20:51] <matjam> Guest69171: don't IRC as root, bad idea
[20:53] <goku> What could happen if I connect to IRC as root?
[20:55] <matjam> goku: google irc client exploit or irc client "buffer overflow"
[20:56] <goku> matjam: well, guess I'm screwd
[20:57] <IntelCore> Again, I would like to read the journal that fly by when ubuntu loads, before grub
[20:57] <IntelCore> er, before sign-in
[20:57] <matjam> IntelCore: boot with "nosplash text"
[20:57] <matjam> IntelCore: everything is saved in "dmesg"
[20:58] <IntelCore> ok dmesg, thanks.
[20:58] <matjam> goku: not really, just, its bad practice, you don't know what exploits are out there and you will want to limit any damage
[20:58] <IntelCore> cas this text, then a ubuntu screen then more text, all happens fast
[20:58] <goku> matjam: how did you know I was logged in as root?
[20:59] <matjam> goku: user mask when you joined was ~root@ which tells me your logged in user was root
[21:00] <goku> matjam: oh alright, thanks for the heads up
[21:00] <matjam> np
[21:00] <matjam> goku: not sure what your earlier question meant. Are you trying to install a package without it's dependencies? its possible to force that but not recommended. You can end up in a bad state.
[21:03] <goku> matjam: I am trying to remove gnome but I am getting an error. "Failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)"
[21:03] <Two_Dogs> root on irc :)
[21:04] <goku> Two_Dogs: lol
[21:04] <Two_Dogs> goku: by remove you mean purging the gnome-shell desktop?
[21:04] <yuiop> a little OT, but #hardware seems to be invite only: mainboard has 4 DDR2 slots amd max 4GB total; Do I assume correctly that 2x2GB ram sticks are okay?
[21:05] <goku> Two_Dogs: yeah I want to remove it completely and all the packages I installed with it
[21:05] <Two_Dogs> goku: what was the default desktop install?
[21:05] <yeee> dose anyone have a solution how to fix this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1002933/vmware-dhcp-no-internet-access, same problem in here as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320
[21:05] <goku> Two_Dogs: xfce
[21:06] <Two_Dogs> goku: what is the meta package that installs a complete xfce?
[21:07] <goku> Two_Dogs: xfce and xfce-goodies
[21:08] <goku> 176.43.39.195176.43.39.195
[21:08] <Two_Dogs> goku: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~ngnome xfce+ xfce-goodies+ | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[21:09] <Two_Dogs> he found a game to play instead
[21:14] <IntelCore> journalctl -k (is not what flys by at loading screen
[21:17] <Two_Dogs> IntelCore: journalctl -b --pri=3 ## that should be everything from boot where there is an issue, remove the --pri=3 and you get the whole enchilada
[21:19] <Two_Dogs> IntelCore: journalctl -b -f --pri=3 ## that left in a terminal will provide realtime issues tracking
[21:20] <Two_Dogs> -b with -f is probably redundant
[21:20] <DeathTickle> IntelCore: use '-k' if you want only the kernel log, else you have kernel+other processes. You can abbreviate —pri=3 to -p 3. I also often find there are good pointers to potential errors with -p 4
[21:20] <IntelCore> woof, Two-Dogs
[21:21] <Two_Dogs> DeathTickle: true about --pri=4 , its a screen filler though
[21:21] <IntelCore> My issue is just that I think the ubuntu is in restore mode. text, then the ubuntu screen, then more text before the log-in screen.
[21:23] <Two_Dogs> IntelCore: you mean recovery mode? you would need to force recovery normally
[21:23] <DeathTickle> and you wouldnt see the graphical log-in screen
[21:24] <IntelCore> hmm.. It says I have a few things in red
[21:24] <Two_Dogs> IntelCore: define 'it'
[21:25] <IntelCore> Ran that command u said, and see this stuff in red
[21:25] <IntelCore> 8 things. multiple lines
[21:27] <DeathTickle> some errors coming from the kernel boot are very benign and dont matter much IntelCore
[21:28] <RoadRunner> to repair a distant comp, ssh server needs to be installed on both my and client's comps?
[21:28] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: install 'ssh' on remote, the client end is default installed
[21:29] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: client is default installed on both 18.04 and 16.04?
[21:30] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/yBQpbxVcVh/
[21:31] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: 'client'= ssh someuser@some-ip is avail on anything i ever touched
[21:31] <IntelCore> UbuntuOne ?
[21:32] <IntelCore> I have joined this UbuntuOne, I forget what I put?
[21:32] <Superman> Hello! What does this error mean when trying to connect to a SSL IRC server? " irc: error: A TLS fatal alert has been received."
[21:33] <leftyfb> Superman: you might try #freenode to help with IRC
[21:34] <IntelCore> secure socket layer irc server
[21:34] <salvo> server -ssl irc.xertion.org
[21:34] <Two_Dogs> Superman irc: error: A TLS fatal alert has been received. https://git.io/vhJPe
[21:35] <yourname_> Superman: are you trying to ssl? is it even set up? sounds like you have a script running for secure ssl but not configured
[21:36] <salvo> server irc.xertion.org
[21:37] <yuppie> anyone know where i can get some help on setting up iPXE / PXE for ubuntu desktop installs?
[21:37] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: ssh stuff on man looks kinda overwhelming; what's the command syntax to login to a remote and open a terminal?
[21:37] <yuppie> I've looked at FOG and iPXE and now I'm working with ERPXE
[21:38] <IntelCore> pxe for iot
[21:38] <JHOSMAN> Hello, how to I can make conecction of Hamachi in Ubuntu Core?
[21:38] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: most basic command> ssh username-on-remote@ip-of-remote
[21:39] <IntelCore> change my user name in UbuntuOne, and it says I need to change it in LaunchPad
[21:40] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: if remote is on a lan with several machines on auto dhcp, how to proceed?
[21:40] <nacc> RoadRunner: your question doesn't make sense
[21:40] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: you need the ip of the remote you want to access
[21:40] <nacc> RoadRunner: 'remote' is a single machine
[21:41] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: on remote execute> inxi -i
[21:42] <IntelCore> Launchpad set a change that affects UbuntuOne ?
[21:42] <IntelCore> All I did was change Username
[21:43] <`whoami`> hi, how do you disable visual effects on ubuntu 18.04 ?
[21:43] <xamithan> Depends on your DE
[21:44] <Two_Dogs> what is the bots trigger for 'your question is way too general'?
[21:45] <`whoami`> vanilla ubuntu offers gnome I think
[21:45] <IntelCore> Man, UbuntuOne can see my pc log-ins
[21:45] <IntelCore> and ip address
[21:46] <yuppie> anyone have suggetions on pxe boot setups?
[21:47] <nacc> IntelCore: ubuntuone can of course see your ip address
[21:47] <nacc> yuppie: what's your question specifically?
[21:47] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: nacc: so, if I am trying to help a friend to repair his comp, I got to call him and explain how to open terminal, enter "inxi -i" and tell me the ip (which can be diff every time he boots 'cause he is on a lan with a dhcp router on auto)?...
[21:47] <yuppie> i'm looking for a guide with a full setup
[21:47] <IntelCore> Ubuntu gnome, ubuntu-metacity, ubuntu-flashback, ubuntu default(Unity8), ubuntu-gnome-compiz.. soon all changes
[21:47] <yuppie> from start to finish
[21:48] <nacc> IntelCore: who are you talking to?
[21:48] <nacc> RoadRunner: well, how are you going to get to their computer? their private LAN IP is not routed to you if you are not on the same LAN
[21:48] <IntelCore> whoami', did they leave?
[21:48] <nacc> IntelCore: i'm pretty sure you know how to direct your conversations in irc. please do so properly
[21:49] <IntelCore> Fine nacc. So why do I have to see text scroll up when boot
[21:49] <nacc> yuppie: i feel like most people use tools to do that for them now, cobbler, containers (do you really need full machines?), maas, etc.
[21:49] <nacc> IntelCore: I don't know what you're talking about, don't ask random people.
[21:50] <IntelCore> ask, dont ask to ask.
[21:50] <yuppie> yeah need full machines for desktop workstations
[21:50] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: you are not going to be helping unless your friend does some stuff on the router, like allowing you in
[21:50] <nacc> IntelCore: ask your question to the channel, not to me, as I don't have any context to your question.
[21:51] <nacc> IntelCore: and if you're responding to someone else's question, respond to them.
[21:51] <IntelCore> I did ask, I am waiting nacc
[21:51] <nacc> IntelCore: you've been here long enough to know both those things.
[21:51] <nacc> yuppie: ok, you might want to look into the existing tools that do this style of thing
[21:51] <nacc> yuppie: doing it yourself is a bit of a pain
[21:51] <`whoami`> and I'm also looking how to export system/user settings, like regional and keyboard layout, notification, doker and search preferences, and so on
[21:52] <IntelCore> every time I try to get help. I might know something, but .. oh well.
[21:52] <yuppie> nacc: which tools should i look at first?
[21:52] <`whoami`> i'm not sure just exporting user's home will be enough
[21:52] <p1p3r4t> hi, i need a fdisk -l result of any hp pavilion 2016/2017 with ssd + hdd , if one here. Thank you.
[21:52] <nacc> p1p3r4t: that's not really wht this channel is for
[21:52] <RoadRunner> nacc: inxi -i will give my friend both wan and lan ip's; he needs to give me both for me to login?
[21:53] <`whoami`> s/exporting/creating a backup/
[21:53] <p1p3r4t> nacc, ok, excuse me.
[21:53] <nacc> RoadRunner: honestly, if you don't understand what's needed, i'm not sure you should be helping your friend :)
[21:53] <kiokoman> p1p3r4t: It is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
[21:53] <Superman> yourname_: yes, SSL feature is turned on in my IRC client, on a different IRC client I can connect successfully on that specific server, it's not a freenode server
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> !find needle
[21:53] <p1p3r4t> kiokoman, almost
[21:54] <RoadRunner> nacc: you are right :) which is why I am trying to learn now, to fully understand what's involved
[21:55] <nacc> RoadRunner: you have to be able to connect to their achine, but their machine is behind a router. So you need to be able to connect to their router, which then has to allow you to connect to a machine ontheir lan.
[21:55] <nacc> RoadRunner: none of this is ubuntu specific, btw, you might want ##linux or something
[21:58] <RoadRunner> nacc: if my questions on this are inapropriate, I'll move on; but if you guys don't mind, perhaps I could finish with this here?
[22:01] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: you might consider chrome-remote on both ends, i think you may actually get to help via that route, need chrome and remote desktop extension
[22:03] <kiokoman> RoadRunner: teamviewer ?
[22:04] <XB23> hi all i have a question about LXC .. so im using iptables to do some routing to my containers from outside world
[22:05] <XB23> it all works great but if i restore my iptables rules my outgoing connection from my containers stops
[22:05] <XB23> i have to service lxc-net restart
[22:05] <XB23> and it all works fine again, is this normal?
[22:05] <XB23> i dont get why iptables screws with lxc-net
[22:05] <RoadRunner> kiokoman: I assume that's an special app, not requiring ssh?
[22:06] <nacc> XB23: you might try #lxcontainers
[22:06] <kiokoman> RoadRunner: indeed
[22:06] <XB23> cheers
[22:07] <RoadRunner> kiokoman: does it allow to remotely open terminal and go from there?
[22:08] <kiokoman> RoadRunner: i think so https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/How-to-install-TeamViewer-on-Linux-without-graphical-user/ta-p/4352
[22:09] <RoadRunner> kiokoman: I'll look into it, thanks
[22:12] <RoadRunner> does the use of ssh increase the need to encrypt ubuntu partitions on a remote comp or is ssh considered  to be secure enough not to have to worry about that?
[22:13] <kiokoman>  secure enough ...
[22:14] <kiokoman> it's secure only when u unplug the lan cable
[22:14] <IntelCore> Ran ubuntu (upstart). so, now it has all this text when ubuntu loads. And, my grub is set 'splash'
[22:15] <tgm4883> RoadRunner: those are two different forms of encryption you're talking about
[22:16] <RoadRunner> tgm4883: I realize that, just wondering if "an extra" way in has a potential to compromize something
[22:17] <tgm4883> RoadRunner: The problem with your questions is you're asking if SSH encryption (protects data during transit) makes it more necessary to encrypt your hard drive (protects data when  your machine is off)
[22:19] <RoadRunner> tgm4883: hd encryption protects only when the machine is off?
[22:19] <tgm4883> RoadRunner: yes
[22:19] <nacc> IntelCore: are you running 14.04?
[22:19] <tgm4883> RoadRunner: which would be like asking. I bought a car with air bags, so should I lock my front door when I leave the house
[22:20] <nacc> tgm4883: i mean, the answer is yes :)
[22:20] <tgm4883> nacc: what if you're in Canada?
[22:20] <nacc> lol
[22:21] <RoadRunner> tgm4883: I like your analogy :)
[22:21] <RoadRunner> but even my questions sound imbecile, I know of no other way to learn :)
[22:22] <IntelCore> nacc - this 16.04
[22:22] <tgm4883> RoadRunner: The only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask
[22:23] <nacc> IntelCore: then what do you mean you are running upstart?
[22:24] <IntelCore> upstart ubuntu instead of systemd?
[22:24] <nacc> IntelCore: why would you do that on 16.04?
[22:25] <asier> HI
[22:25] <IntelCore> nacc: I dunno why the text displays. grub is set, i think, to splash.
[22:25] <nacc> IntelCore: you're not answering my question
[22:25] <IntelCore> Ah, nacc: there are the option to boot ubuntu (upstart)
[22:26] <nacc> IntelCore: upstart is not the init system by default on 16.04, i doubt it works well and it simply doesn't exist anymore in later releases.
[22:26] <nacc> IntelCore: you have no reason, i expect, to boot that version of ubuntu, and i doubt most services work with it.
[22:26] <kiokoman> nope, it's gone on 18.04
[22:26] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: are chrome-remote desktop extension also a sepparate app like teamviewer?
[22:27] <IntelCore> nacc: so this must be why the pc has text right after grub
[22:27] <nacc> IntelCore: do you mean you aren't given a graphical login?
[22:27] <nacc> IntelCore: yes, don't use an unsupported config.
[22:27] <Two_Dogs> no idea RoadRunner
[22:27] <nacc> IntelCore: i'm fairly sure those options are only there for people upgrading from 14.04
[22:27] <IntelCore> nacc: it finally will go thru all and give a log-in page
[22:28] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: please explain you suggestion regarding  chrome-remote
[22:28] <IntelCore> nacc: so this grub issue?
[22:28] <nacc> IntelCore: ok ... I don't particularly care about that. I doubt most things work. Don't use that option.
[22:28] <nacc> IntelCore: no.
[22:28] <nacc> IntelCore: seriously, just don't use that boot option.
[22:28] <nacc> IntelCore: you have no reason to do so, as you don't seem to know what 'upstart' is.
[22:31] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: are you able to talk in a private chat?
[22:33] <IntelCore> nacc - this seems to be using upstart now when boots, how to go back to other way?
[22:34] <nacc> IntelCore: reboot to the entry that doesn't say upstart.
[22:34] <nacc> IntelCore: as in the default one
[22:35] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i dont pm/pvt
[22:38] <IntelCore> nacc: okay so select the vm-linuz kernel that is first named in grub menu.  Then that should fix it.  But, I do not think it did.
[22:39] <IntelCore> I am going to 'reeboot' from terminal. brb
[22:39] <IntelCore> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[22:39] <libben> Anyone good with watch dog?
[22:39] <nacc> IntelCore: stop talking about upstart.
[22:39] <libben> I have watch dog disabled in my bios
[22:39] <libben> And Im thinking of turning it on
[22:40] <libben> Do I also need to install and configure watchdog package?
[22:40] <nacc> libben: is it a server? do you see system hangs?
[22:40] <libben> its a server, mini pc. I just received a new mobo for it. First one got dead within a weak with idle temps arounr 40-60
[22:41] <libben> so i was thinking of precaution
[22:41] <libben> try it and see if it gets triggered and reboot
[22:43] <IntelCore> nacc : last line was something about seed. then I logged-in. It has [ ok] in green text flying up.
[22:44] <ericrajuin> Hello I got a question. Is there a quick way to list all packages currently installed from a ppa? I've got a bunch of libmono* packages which I want to freeze it from upgrading, but I don't want to 'apt-mark hold' and type each name coz there's a lot of names to type..
[22:47] <IntelCore> ericrajuin - askubuntu.com/questions/447129/how-to-list-all-the-packages-which-are-installed-from-ppas
[22:49] <ericrajuin> IntelCore: I'll try that, thank you :)
[22:49] <oerheks> aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ~Oppa)'
[22:53] <ericrajuin> oerheks: do I substitue the "~Oppa" with the ppa name ?
[22:54] <IntelCore> i think it is init. not grub
[22:57] <yuppie> no one in the ERPXE channel lol
[22:57] <oerheks> ericrajuin, oh it gives meta package names only
[23:01] <ycyclist> What is the IRC channel for encoding questions?
[23:01] <ycyclist> I googled but no luck.
[23:03] <IntelCore> wha? is initd?
[23:04] <ericrajuin> oerheks: that is still useful
[23:11] <IntelCore>   sbin init splash is running nacc
[23:12] <RoadRunner> how to set up an encrypted data partition after the initial install?
[23:13] <xamithan> RoadRunner: https://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/
[23:16] <RoadRunner> xamithan: thank you :)
[23:16] <IntelCore> htop is good
[23:17] <IntelCore> i don't get why it boots like this now.
[23:20] <ericrajuin> thanks IntelCore oerheks, problem solved :)
[23:21] <IntelCore> wha?  ok. well cool
[23:22] <IntelCore> yum, read ubuntu-manual.org
[23:22] <IntelCore> eh
[23:31] <jfwneu> Tomcat 9 was declared stable in mid-january... not enough time to include it in the 18.04 repository?
[23:32] <nacc> jfwneu: it's not in debian either
[23:32] <jfwneu> oof
[23:33] <jfwneu> i thought the one group of people who benefitted from systemd were distribution maintainers...
[23:33] <nacc> jfwneu: not sure what that has to do with the other?
[23:49] <FreakingOut1987> I have some pretty important data saved in mousepad editor. It has just become unresponsive. It usually happens once I open about 100+ tabs in one session. No idea what could cause the problem. I'm hesitant to force close any of these mousepads as they all fork from the same original process. What can I do to salvage the data saved in one of the child processes?
[23:53] <ButterFly^> FreakingOut1987 : tip for the future, save way more often
[23:53] <FreakingOut1987> ButterFly^, mhm, I'm not opening 100+ tabs without saving though hahaha. It's more like once I reach tab 100+ in the name