[00:13] <tgm4883> Sf82Tb77
[00:13] <tgm4883> Sf82Tb77
[00:14] <tgm4883> well that's fun
[00:17] <Maluxyu> OIii
[00:17] <Maluxyu> esse chat é br?
[00:20] <mattfly> what package should i install so libreoffice has m language  spellcheck
[00:21] <compdoc> m?
[00:22] <mattfly> the package names
[00:22] <mattfly> im using libreoffice in english but dont know what package to install to get other languages spellcheck and support
[00:23] <nacc> mattfly: apt-cache search libreoffice | grep language
[00:24] <mattfly> well installed that but spellcheck does not work yet
[00:24] <mattfly> i think might be something on libreoffice then
[00:24] <mattfly> thanks
[00:37] <jnewt> can't get gui apps to see usb devices.   currently neither scanner nor ftdi usb to serial converter work.   they worked previously, not sure what changed / happened.  both show in lsusb, sane-find-scanner shows the scanner (and the other usb devices), but I can't use simple scan.
[00:38] <jnewt> i need the usb to serial converter to work.  close to having to switch back to windows to get my stuff done.
[00:39] <courrier> I've installed dnsmasq setting its name to "myname.mytld", I've also manually set /etc/hostname to "myname", now sudo is complaining all the time because it's unable to resolve host, is it because hostname should be "myname.mytld" instead of "myname"?
[00:40] <timypcr> sudo is complaining ?
[00:42] <courrier> yes it says "unable to resolve host myname"
[00:44] <timypcr> what is the first name server listed in nano /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:45] <timypcr> also what is the output of hostname
[00:47] <courrier> timypcr: resolv.conf has "nameserver 127.0.0.53", this looks incorrect, isn't it?
[00:47] <courrier> hostname returns only "myname"
[00:47] <timypcr> yep 127.0.0.1
[00:48] <timypcr> ok set your FQDN
[00:48] <timypcr> sudo hostname your-new-name
[00:48] <timypcr> and than update the first nameserver from 127.0.0.53 to 127.0.0.1
[00:48] <timypcr> restart dnsmasq and see if error is resolved
[00:49] <courrier> isn't resolv.conf automaticcaly updated by dnsmasq?
[00:49] <timypcr> I don't think so but my dnsmasq server has been running for years so I don't recall to be honest
[00:50] <ghi> hello is the financial calculator in ubuntu is exact?
[00:50] <timypcr> don't know why dnsmasq would edit any files
[00:53] <timypcr> any luck courrier?
[00:56] <courrier> timypcr: I'm rebooting... this is veery long
[00:56] <courrier> The server is always stuck on "A start job is running for Wait for Network to be configured"
[00:56] <courrier> during several minutes
[00:57] <timypcr> should not need to reboot just restart the dnsmasq service
[00:57] <courrier> can it be because of a bad network config?
[00:57] <timypcr> could be is it booting faster now?
[00:57] <bn_work> hi, is anyone familiar with logrotate 3.8.7?  For some reason some of the log files (ex: `bootstrap.log`, `ufw.log`, `kern.log`) become 0 bytes (see attached .conf files) https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cz6yAAUN/logrotate.conf
[00:57] <courrier> it looks like it's trying to get an IP from DHCP while it's the DHCP itself
[00:58] <timypcr> so you are also using dnsmasq as a DHCP service as well?
[00:58] <bn_work> Is it because of the `create` statement?
[00:59] <timypcr> if its set up as a DHCP service you should be using a static IP address
[01:00] <timypcr> I only use dnsmasq as a recursive DNS server and let my router handle the DHCP
[01:01] <courrier> timypcr: yes I'm using the DHCP server as well
[01:02] <bn_work> That would explain why `kern.log` is 0 bytes but I don't understand why the other files would be 0 bytes?
[01:02] <courrier> however it's not supposed to request an IP from a DHCP
[01:02] <courrier> it's set as static on both RJ45 interfaces http://paste.debian.net/1026030/
[01:03] <timypcr> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:04] <bn_work> s/that would explain why/I understand why/
[01:04] <courrier> timypcr: 18.04
[01:04] <courrier> Ubuntu Server
[01:04] <timypcr> I don't see a static IP address in the config you posted
[01:05] <courrier> timypcr: what about the "addresses" fields?
[01:05] <timypcr> oh I see addresses is a new directive they must have changed that have not ran 18.04 yet
[01:05] <timypcr> use to be just  address
[01:05] <courrier> yes it's now using netplan
[01:07] <courrier> does it look fine timypcr?
[01:07] <courrier> Any idea of why I'm "waiting for network" so long during boot?
[01:08] <timypcr> it does look fine to me not sure why its taking so long to intialze network
[01:10] <timypcr> this post mentioned the issue https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348685
[01:12] <timypcr> by any chance did your resolv.conf rewrite the incorrect entry again?
[01:12] <courrier> also timypcr, it looks like my hostname is always reset to "myname" at next reboot when I set overwrite it for "myname.tld"
[01:13] <courrier> it's still complaining because it can't resolve "myname" :/
[01:14] <xamithan> You got to change that one cloud.cfg file or whatever to get hostname to stick
[01:14] <bn_work> any ideas anyone? :/
[01:14] <timypcr> is your server able to ping external sites?
[01:15] <timypcr> like google.com ?
[01:15] <timypcr> and if not are you able to ping ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[01:16] <courrier> yes I can ping external IPs or dns with success
[01:16] <courrier> Also changing resolv.conf didn't work :/
[01:16] <courrier> it also got reset
[01:16] <timypcr> is your system up to date?
[01:16] <timypcr> all the latest patches this seems like a bug
[01:20] <jeffree> I just get a notification after upgrade and reboot "Detailed errors from the package manager follow: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.fwupd: Timeout was reached" What does this mean?
[01:20] <timypcr> the paste you posted that was the entire config ? you are not setting the gateway for the second interface are you?
[01:22] <timypcr> assuming the dnsmasq and the slow boot is not related and there is no issue with your interface config try dd a # in the /etc/init/failsafe.conf file in front of all lines containing sleep <n>. Doing so would help to boot fast.
[01:23] <Bashing-om> courrier: confirm that ' cat /etc/hosts
[01:23] <kus> hi friends, can someone please take a look why live patch fails? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9S62TzG2Wg/ bionic beaver
[01:23] <Bashing-om>  and ' cat /etc/hostname
[01:24] <Bashing-om> that the nakes match .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> names*
[01:28] <timypcr> I'm guessing that Bionic Beaver is not yet ready for production
[01:29] <Bashing-om> timypcr: Solid and stable here .. but production rule of thumb is to await the .1 release .
[01:35] <timypcr> I'm going to wait until 16.04 is EOL
[01:37] <timypcr> I still have a production mail server on 14.04 I'm in no hurry
[01:40] <doug16k> I did a clean install of 18.04 on my laptop earlier. it's amazing how quickly it installs!
[01:41] <doug16k> messages were a bit terrifying though, since I was installing it alongside my existing install. kept saying "completely removing <something>"... I trusted it though :)
[02:10] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: when is .1 release  coming out?
[02:13] <hggdh> RoadRunner: around mid July
[02:14] <RoadRunner> will a 18.04 install be automatically updated to 18.04.1 through software updater?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: yes .. the pont release will come with the updates .
[02:18] <RoadRunner> thanks
[02:41] <ALowther_> Is sshd a part of the default install for Ubuntu 16.04? I am getting a connection refused and just assumed it would be running as a default service. I don't see an sshd folder. Do I need to install it? Or am I just missing it somewhere?
[02:41] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: install of 'ssh' needed
[02:42] <jeffguorg> if it's installed, there should be a /etc/ssh directory
[02:42] <ALowther_> jeffguorg: There is an ssh directory. But that is for the ssh client, right? I want to ssh from another computer into this one. That requires the ssh server, right? Which is sshd?
[02:43] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs: Okay. Interesting, so ssh client is default, ssh server is not?
[02:43] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: also insure the firewall if enabled is allowing calls to sshd/port 22
[02:43] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs, I am in System Monitor. I do not even see an sshd process, I assume that is what it would be called, right?
[02:43] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: i have always found ssh client installed and sshd not installed
[02:44] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: has the service started?
[02:44] <Ctrl_Null> sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:45] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs: How can I tell? In processes there is no sshd, should I be looking for something else?
[02:45] <ALowther_> Ctrl_Null: I have looked there, I have the ssh folder and ssh_config, but not sshd_config
[02:45] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: it is a service, 'systemctl status sshd'
[02:45] <Ctrl_Null> sudo pacman -S openssh ssh
[02:46] <Two_Dogs> Ctrl_Null: no pacman
[02:46] <Ctrl_Null> sudo apt-get openssh ssh ****
[02:46] <ALowther_> sshd.service Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[02:47] <genii> openssh-server
[02:47] <genii> ..is the package name if you want sshd
[02:47] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: you will need to install 'ssh'
[02:48] <Ctrl_Null> ^
[02:48] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: you will need to install 'ssh' on the remote
[02:49] <Ctrl_Null> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[02:49] <ALowther_> Wow, so interesting. I just needed to install ssh-server. Thank you. I didn't realize that was not a default thing.
[02:49] <Ctrl_Null> ^ easy guide
[02:50] <ALowther_> Thank you.
[02:50] <Ctrl_Null> if you are going to be connecting w/o remote suggest adding ssh key
[02:50] <Ctrl_Null> &whitelisting
[02:51] <ALowther_> Yes, I am adding my key now. Thank you.
[02:58] <jeffguorg> ALowther_: sorry, i was busy working on configuring servers. you need openssh-server for sshd
[03:01] <ascii__> hi
[03:01] <ascii__> someone from Brasil?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !br | ascii__
[03:01]  * ascii__ feliz
[03:04] <ALowther_> Tudo bem
[03:05] <link_> hello
[03:15] <LightUpRise> hello
[03:22] <ALowther_> What is the proper way to restart a service? For instance, if I am playing with settings with my sshd config and need to restart it for changes to take effect.
[03:22] <ALowther_> jeffguorg: Yes, thank you! I got it installed.
[03:23] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: systemctl restart some.service
[03:23] <ALowther_> Ah
[03:23] <ALowther_> This systemctl command seems to be very powerful ;). I shall do some research on it. Thank you :)
[03:23] <Two_Dogs> :) ok
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:54] <LightUpRise> dong!
[04:19] <the_document> im trying to install cpupower package, tried apt-get install cpupower but no work
[04:27] <guiverc> the_document, i don't know the package/app/program, but https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cpupower gets nothing either - where did you hear/find out about it?
[04:29] <ALowther_> when I type it in, it recommends linux-tools-common
[04:35] <illn00blli> running 18.04. Recently tried using VBox. Today having difficulty opening Discord app. Error message stating something about not being able to allocate memory. Wondering if virtual HD's may have stuck RAM? PLS HALP
[04:36] <illn00blli> not currently running VBox. have hade issues with OS hanging.
[04:36] <yuppie> hello all
[04:37] <illn00blli> Also, wanting to know some SUPER n00b stuff. Like how to change display at top of screen to show DATE along with time. Cant seem to figure it out. OOF.
[04:37] <yuppie> is it possible to: 1) do a fresh ubuntu desktop install 2) modify that installation (lets say install google chrome) 3) create a squashfs filesystem after all my configuring is done 4) boot and run the live-installer using that squashfs image?
[04:38] <yuppie> illn00blli: click the time, then Time & Date Settings ... > Clock
[04:42] <guiverc> yuppie, yeah but I don't know how, I watched a video by fracque(i forget; french guy who does makulu) that showed how (using his script for makulu based on ubuntu)
[04:43] <yuppie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:43] <yuppie> i think this might be close ...
[04:46] <yuppie> maybe this one
[04:46] <yuppie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeALiveCD/DVD/BootableFlashFromHarddiskInstall
[04:47] <illn00blli> yuppie I don't see that when I click the time
[04:47] <illn00blli> not with a left or a right click. just drops down the display
[04:49] <illn00blli> also, still looking for help with RAM question posted above. will repost if needed
[04:49] <yuppie> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-customization-kit-linux-operating-system/
[04:50] <yuppie> this looks good too
[04:51] <illn00blli> what about a terminal command to see where my memory is going?
[04:52] <illn00blli> looks like it's half used right now. only have 4GB
[04:52] <Bashing-om> illn00blli: what shows ' free -m ' ?
[04:54] <illn00blli> Bashing-om Mem:           3836        1543        1193          29        1100        2030
[04:54] <illn00blli> er should I pastebinit?
[04:55] <illn00blli> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CgRmVChNXt/
[04:57] <Bashing-om> illn00blli: What have you got going on, hiiting swap with memory to spare ?
[04:58] <illn00blli> i have absolute n00bness going on.
[04:59] <illn00blli> Bashing-om for example, I don't even know what you just asked me. XD
[05:00] <illn00blli> running 18.04. Recently tried using VBox. Today having difficulty opening Discord app. Error message stating something about not being able to allocate memory. Wondering if virtual HD's may have stuck RAM? PLS HALP <--repost Bashing-om
[05:01] <Bashing-om> illn00blli: Will take one smarter than I., but with 1193 MB free, I would not expect swap to be used at all .
[05:03] <Bashing-om> illn00blli: How much mamory did you give to Vbox ?
[05:03] <illn00blli> Bashing-om WUT DO? "\_(o,O)_/"
[05:03] <illn00blli> Different amounts at different times.
[05:03] <illn00blli> All of the VM's have been erased.
[05:04] <illn00blli> So, I would think there should be no problem.
[05:06] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: run the app from terminal, share error messages here, better yet, complete dump of process info offered from terminal execute, pastebin it
[05:06] <illn00blli> Two_Dogs would it surprise you to know I don't know how to do that (yet)
[05:06] <Bashing-om> illn00blli: The tool 'top' may gove a clue as to what is going on .
[05:07] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: and include 'inxi -Fxz' dump
[05:08] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: open terminal, start app , copy paste terminal output to a pastebin
[05:11] <SailorMoon> Hey guys! i need a bit of help
[05:12] <SailorMoon> Whats the deal here? lol https://i.imgur.com/1nBPZ40.png
[05:12] <illn00blli> Two_Dogs https://pastebin.com/2Vm0WHUK the app did open after I received this output
[05:13] <SailorMoon> gonna try changing networks, brb.
[05:15] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: i would ask the discord gurus if the errors shown on lines 3-5 matter
[05:23] <illn00blli> Thank you, Two_Dogs
[05:23] <Two_Dogs> illn00blli: yw
[05:23] <illn00blli> Have to run to market for the momma llama. Would like help figuring out the "swap" thing when I get back. Guess I'll see who's here.
[05:50] <illn00blli> OH BOY! Shut my laptop lid when I left to the market. When I came back I got a terminal screen with a bunch of warning/error messages. Returned to LOGIN screen, and got a pop up saying "Sorry, Ubuntu 18.04 has experienced an internal error." Asked to send report, viewing details now, have not sent...
[05:51] <illn00blli> Unsure how to relay details of error message to someone here.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: use a hastebin
[05:51] <illn00blli> how do I get details to a pastebin
[05:51] <illn00blli> since I can't copy from the dialog
[05:52] <illn00blli> clicked "continue". dialog disappeared
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: when ubuntu encountered you can expand the error details, also if you file the bug, it will redirect you to launchpad
[05:53] <illn00blli> I expanded the details, but had no way to highlight or copy them
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: you can also check your logs in /var/log/..
[05:53] <illn00blli> is there another place to grab them?
[05:53] <illn00blli> ok
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: crash logs or syslog/dmesg showing usefull stuff
[05:53] <illn00blli> I'm new. Forgot how to change directory :(
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: cd /var/log
[05:54] <illn00blli> ok I'm there. what now?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: now read the logs you want, with nano, vi or gedit
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> illn00blli: ls to see whats in your dir
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[05:57] <illn00blli> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/84jmkj7KwZ/ here's the list of logs. unsure where to start
[05:59] <illn00blli> syslog.4.gz has 320 mentions of error...
[06:00] <illn00blli> guess I'll try back later
[06:00] <foo357> Hello, I have upgraded a 14.04 LTS computer to 16.04. After the update there's some problem with the network interface, 'ifconfig' only lists the loopback interface.
[06:02] <mbi_12345> morn
[06:02] <mbi_12345> ings
[06:04] <foo357> My first guess is that this can hopefully be easily solved by 'reinitializing' the network settings, i.e. triggering  the OS to rediscover/renew network settings. But I don't remember well how you do that.
[06:07] <foo357> I just saw now that if I run 'ifconfig -a' I also see a interface named 'ens32' and it has no ip-adress.
[06:14] <Two_Dogs> foo357: how did you manage networking on 14.04?
[06:16] <Two_Dogs> foo357: the naming convention of network devices changed to new method
[06:16] <Two_Dogs> s/devices/connections
[06:17] <foo357> Two_Dogs: I'm not too sure unfortunately. It should be automatic (or whatever is the default in ubuntu 12.04 LTS), I have some possibility to dig down and look this up. ip adress should be obtained by DHCP.
[06:18] <foo357> Two_Dogs: yes I read something about a renaming when I looked into the problem.
[06:18] <Two_Dogs> foo357: does the issue system connect to internet?
[06:19] <foo357> Two_Dogs: No, it cannot do it right now since it has no working network interface (ignoring the loopback if)
[06:20] <Two_Dogs> foo357: does the issue system connect to internet? how did system connect before upgrade?
[06:21] <foo357> Two_Dogs: nothing special really, just a common wired network connection.
[06:22] <Two_Dogs> foo357: ok
[06:24] <Two_Dogs> foo357: drill down to file /etc/network/interfaces , does file exist?
[06:26] <foo357> Two_Dogs: yes it exists. Two interfaces are in it (lo and eth0). But now I see that eth0 seems to be configured to use a static ip adress.
[06:26] <foo357> That's a bit odd, I would think eth0 should be configured for dhcp.
[06:26] <Two_Dogs> foo357: your networking setup has a router ahead of your system?
[06:27] <foo357> Two_Dogs: yes.
[06:29] <matjam> foo357: you should be able to rename the interface in /etc/network/interfaces to ens32 and do an ifup ens32
[06:30] <Two_Dogs> foo357:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> ifconfig ## which interface replaced eth0/1?
[06:31] <pantato> https://paste.debian.net/1026054/ anyone know what's going on here?
[06:32] <pantato> my regular update failed
[06:32] <foo357> Two_Dogs: you mean I should run "ifconfig ens32" (ens32 seems to be the new name for the default wired network connection)
[06:33] <Two_Dogs> foo357: ifconfig ## alone should show all
[06:36] <foo357> Two_Dogs: "ifconfig" only lists the loopback interface. But if I add "-a" it also lists ens32, some information is: it has an hardware adress, no traffic (0 packets sent/received)
[06:37] <foo357> Two_Dogs: (also, ens32 does not have an ip-adress )
[06:37] <genii> The -a means "show all" which means show the ones which also have not been brought up/activated
[06:37] <Two_Dogs> https://git.io/vhULr foo357 something to try
[06:38] <genii> foo357: Is it supposed to auto-get an IP ?
[06:38] <foo357> Two_Dogs: I have an idea: edit /etc/network/interfaces and fix it up, change eth0 to ens32 in the file, and change it from static ip configuration to dhcp.
[06:38] <Two_Dogs> foo357: excellent thought
[06:39] <genii> Or just try first: sudo ifup en32&& suso ifconfig en32 up .... and then see if ifconfig without -a shows it
[06:40] <genii> suso/sudo
[06:47] <foo357> Two_Dogs: genii I tried the idea I described earlier (a bit of manual editing of /etc/network/interfaces) and it seems to have worked well. I can bring up ens32 and it is brought up at boot.
[06:47] <guest_rob> Hi there, there's some annoying behaviour around rebooting with ssh sessions in 16.04 that doesnt seem to be in 14.04 or 18.04. If I've got a clear replication case and wanted to follow up with someone, where should I do that?
[06:47] <foo357> Two_Dogs: genii thanks for the help.
[06:47] <Two_Dogs> foo357: cool
[06:48] <SailorMoon> Okay, what do i do with "mv: cannot move '/home/bunie/Lakka-LibreELEC/build.Lakka-Switch.aarch64-2.1-devel/tz-2017c/.install_pkg/etc/zoneinfo/Africa' to '/home/bunie/Lakka-LibreELEC/build.Lakka-Switch.aarch64-2.1-devel/tz-2017c/.install_pkg/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa': Permission denied" ?
[06:48] <SailorMoon> i tried running it with Sudo with no luck either
[07:11] <hellyeah> hey
[07:11] <hellyeah> i am typing sudo -s i got sudo: unable to resolve hos
[07:11] <hellyeah> t
[07:11] <hellyeah> how can i deal this problem
[07:14] <SlidingHorn> hellyeah: what's the command you're using sudo -s for?
[07:15] <hellyeah> i created sudo
[07:16] <hellyeah> sudo -s is just for going into root environment
[07:16] <hellyeah> when you do sudo -s that ask password for sudo
[07:16] <hellyeah> this is what i do at least
[07:19] <SlidingHorn> hellyeah: it should say something after the "unable to resolve host" message (typically, whatever the host name it's trying to resolve)
[07:19] <syborg> hellyeah, look at the answer with the checkmark here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/59458/error-message-sudo-unable-to-resolve-host-user
[07:19] <hellyeah> yeah it said that
[07:22] <ericccsaysss> \q
[07:22] <syborg> good luck, I'm getting off IRC for the night.
[07:41] <sveinse> I still need to use the 4.15.0-15 kernel to make the dock/multiple displays on this Lenovo P51 laptop. I'd hoped the new 4.15.0-22 kernel would fix it, but unfortunately it does not.
[07:41] <sveinse> On 18.04
[08:26] <narfin> hello world
[08:33] <mgsk> Seems like ubuntu (16.04) is using an old version of polkit (version pkaction == 0.105). If I were to install a newer version of polkit, would this break ubuntu (things stop working)
[08:33] <mgsk> ?
[08:33] <Ool> mgsk: what for ?
[08:33] <CryptoSiD> I'm runnign this to get an email alert when there is a login. echo 'ALERT - '$USER' Shell Access (CryptoSiD) on:' `date` `who` | mail -s "Alert: $USER Access from `who | cut -d'(' -f2 | cut -d')' -f1`" xxx@xxx.xxx
[08:34] <CryptoSiD> for an unknow reason it only work when i login as root? else im getting mail: cannot send message: Process exited with a non-zero status
[08:34] <mgsk> Ool: the newer version of polkit uses a different rule specification format, and I need that.
[08:34] <Ool> perhaps easiest to install an 18.04 to have new version
[08:35] <mgsk> Ool: you sure 18.04 has that version?
[08:35] <Ool> no
[08:35] <mgsk> xD
[08:35] <Ool> but I'm sure it have a newer version than 16.04 :)
[08:35] <CryptoSiD> ok i get it nvm
[08:36] <mgsk> Googling suggests that 18.04 has the newer version that I want. Ool I'll update tonight. Hopefully nothing breaks :)
[08:37] <Ool> mgsk: arf you right
[08:38] <Ool> not sure exactly wich packet your looking for: but with this website you can check versions https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:39] <Two_Dogs> CryptoSiD: you execute the line mentioned each time?
[08:41] <CryptoSiD> i've put it in /etc/bash.bashrc. but there is an issue with the "cut -d'(' -f2 | cut -d')' -f1`" when there is more than 2 users logged in
[08:42] <mgsk> nvm actually, I'll just use the old policykit syntax xD
[08:42] <CryptoSiD> nope it work fine with root whatever the number of user logged in, but not with non-root users
[08:43] <CryptoSiD> i dont understand why tho:D
[08:44] <CryptoSiD> session optional pam_exec.so stdout /etc/your_email_script.sh (this sound like a better option)
[08:50] <Triffid_Hunter> CryptoSiD: maybe mail doesn't like newlines in the subject?
[09:04] <nikolam> Hi, I have a problem with Synaptic application. it can't search many packages anymore, after I added 386 architecture for packages, beside 64-bit one.
[09:05] <nikolam> Like it can find hexchat-common but can't find hexchat itself when searching package names on 'Search' button in Synaptic
[09:07] <nikolam> Could it be that adding also 32-bit achitecture beside 64-bit, somehow disables regular search in Synaptic?
[09:07] <unrecovered> hello, fair people of #ubuntu! :D
[09:09] <unrecovered> i have a holywar-inducing question today. i'm trying to choose a file system for a new server. its primary role is SQL. any suggestions? :D
[09:10] <unrecovered> currently i'm thinking lvm+ext4
[09:15] <nikolam> unrecovered, I would choose BTRFS for system and ZFS for data
[09:15] <nikolam> But that's only me
[09:19] <eraserpencil> hey guys
[09:20] <eraserpencil> I have a portable ssd that I use to safe files from a machine running ubuntu, but when i tried to plug it into another computer, I cant copy the files over.
[09:21] <nikolam> Synaptic deos not search right.. I removed i386 architecture with 'sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386 ' and nothing changed. It's Synaptic's thing
[09:23] <Triffid_Hunter> eraserpencil: what filesystem did you put on it?
[09:23] <eraserpencil> i've tried giving it 777 permissions
[09:23] <eraserpencil> it's ext4
[09:23] <Triffid_Hunter> eraserpencil: what OS is the other computer running?
[09:23] <eraserpencil> both ubuntu
[09:23] <ericrajuin> mount with -o rw ?
[09:24] <Triffid_Hunter> eraserpencil: and what do you mean by "can't copy the files over".. what exactly are you doing and what's the exact error?
[09:27] <nikolam> Seems like synaptic can't find packages even after reinstall. maybe somehow packages need to be reindexed somehow?
[09:27] <eraserpencil> I build snaps on an ssd with a faster machine. Now, I want to bring over all the files(parts, stage etc etc) including the snaps to my laptop. When I tried to copy the fodler from the SSD to my home directory, I got permissions error.
[09:29] <mjayk> eraserpencil: you need to fix the permissions then, what errors do you get
[09:29] <eraserpencil> just permission denied
[09:30] <eraserpencil> but i've given the folder 777 permissions on both machines
[09:30] <eraserpencil> is it that the folder has permission but not it's content?
[09:31] <mjayk> just confirm that you did it recursivly with ls -la
[09:32] <nicholasBPM> My ssh connection keeps dropping, I use that connection to tunnel information so I need it to become more stable. Any tricks available?
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> nicholasBPM  wtorkaroun : use 'screen' multiplexer
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> workaround*
[09:35] <eraserpencil> I didnt eject the SSD though, cause my machine does not have a gui output
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> nicholasBPM  https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/keep-your-ssh-session-running-when-you-disconnect/
[09:35] <nicholasBPM> MonkeyDust, thanks! I will google it
[09:36] <mgsk> nicholasBPM: check out 'mosh' also. Interesting tool
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> mosh looks neat
[09:39] <nicholasBPM> MonkeyDust, I use my ssh connection for socks 5 so the connection runs in the background.. and when the connection dies i have to create a new tunnel
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> i tried it with 127.0.0.1
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> nicholasBPM  it advices here, to simply change the ssh port from 22 to something else https://superuser.com/questions/479700/unstable-ssh-connections-in-to-ubuntu
[09:43] <nicholasBPM> MonkeyDust, thanks I tried that, but still no luck.. The connection works fine as soon as i reconnect.
[09:49] <unrecovered> nikolam: hmm... could you be a bit more specific? why those two?
[09:51] <janat08> should I just move to wayland?
[10:00] <nikolam> unrecovered, it's just my opinion. Both BTRFS and ZFS are Copy on write, have snapshots and send, one is part of Linux kernel other is supported by Ubuntu. One is still in development, other is long time stable across many platforms. I say, get the best of both worlds, use Btrfs for system, because it is supporte din kernel and ZFS for data to be able to share it across systems.
[10:01] <nikolam> They also have included RAID levels in software , Caching on SSD for ZFS, checksuums, so you always get data you wrote checked before giving to application...
[10:03] <ubuntu-mate> my mozilla not work
[10:04] <nikolam> ubuntu-mate, mozilla is a company :)
[10:05] <ubuntu-mate> mozilla firefox
[10:06] <nikolam> ubuntu-mate, what Ubuntu are you on (lsb_release -a), and do you have it installed or it is uninstalled maybe by mistake?
[10:07] <ubuntu-mate> mate-16.0
[10:08] <ubuntu-mate> unistalled
[10:08] <nikolam> ubuntu-mate, see with dpkg -l | grep firefox if it is installed
[10:08] <blackflow> unrecovered: I wouldn't trust btrfs at all. ZFS is well supported on Ubuntu, I have some machines even running encrypted ZFS root. I ZFS all the things.
[10:09] <Triffid_Hunter> I've used btrfs on all my systems since 2012, never had a single problem with it (under gentoo anyway).. I hear ubuntu only recently had kernels new enough for it to be mostly stable though
[10:10] <nikolam> blackflow, I am interested in ZFS root, yet is it actually supported by Ubuntu to have Root on ZFS? How to you manage Boot Environments on ZFS/Ubuntu if you do?
[10:10] <nikolam> Triffid_Hunter, yes, Have been using Btrfs that long too, even live migrated to RAID1 etc.
[10:11] <blackflow> nikolam: it's supported in the way that zfs is part of the kernel image, pre-built in step with the kernel (so no potential DKMS issues borking the boot), and initramfs understands it so root on zfs is possible. As for BEs, I don't think they're supported, and that's something that I guess should be done in grub.
[10:11] <nikolam> I am used to illumos Boot environments on ZFS for such a long time. Not seeing that, except snapshots on Linux.
[10:12] <blackflow> nikolam: personally, I solve the BE problem with a set of custom initramfs scripts which I use anyway to unlock the encrypted root pool over ssh remotely. there I can also select the snapshot to boot.
[10:12] <nikolam> Yes, also update procedures need to understand ZFS internals, to create new BE in a cloned one, activate it, etc. it is different paradigm for Linux.
[10:13] <nikolam> Yeah, you boot off from datasets, snapshots are read-only by default in Zfs :P
[10:13] <blackflow> nikolam: indeed, but I don't think any CoW system is supported that way? It would, ineed, be nice if apt for example would make automatic snapshots before updates.
[10:14] <nikolam> blackflow, yes, I were using that thing in Opensolaris/Openindiana for years. But it's out of scope for Ubuntu talk.
[10:15] <blackflow> nikolam: yes BEs are datasets, but snapshotted (clones are snapshot based), so... :)
[10:15] <nikolam> So you boot off the clone :P it's r-w :P
[10:15] <blackflow> yeah.
[10:16] <nikolam> Great thing you shared this about booting off ZFS without dkms, thanks blackflow
[10:16] <blackflow> anyway, I was really hoping the support for zfs to increase over the years since 16.10, but that never happened. Instead Canonical is more interested in NIH-ing new software like netplan and subiquity, so it'll be another few years before that is even remotely considered I guess.
[10:18] <nikolam> I used to use 'beadm' from illumos to manage BE's and have Ubuntu living inside BE for a short period of time. I may try that again.
[10:18] <blackflow> (what's worse, the new installer has even less features, so I really don't get the point of doing all that instead of evolving what you already got, but eh. I debootstrap all my installations so I don't care really).
[10:19] <nikolam> blackflow, also that "encrypted root pool " is interesting. Do youa ctually encrypt ZFS datasets? (openZFS encryption is available from Delphix I think, but not upstreamed yet, I think)
[10:19] <blackflow> nikolam: I use LUKS. ZFS's own encryption is highly experimental at this point, and some related issues on ZoL github are scary :)
[10:20] <nikolam> I think Delphix use OpenZFS dataset encryption in their production for their customers for something close to two years, but yes, they didn't finishe-released it yet.
[10:21] <blackflow> isn't Delphix based on FreeBSD?
[10:21] <blackflow> Delphix' implementation of openzfs I mean
[10:21] <nikolam> No they use illumos. OpenZFS is cross-platform itself.
[10:22] <blackflow> nikolam: yeah but not all implementations of openzfs are the same. eg, there are differences between ZoL and FreeBSD
[10:22] <blackflow> they both have OpenZFS the project as upstream, yes.
[10:22] <blackflow> s/both/all
[10:22] <nikolam> blackflow, sure, thay all have their patches. but that "Feature flags" thing solves incompatibilities if new features are in for datasets.
[10:23] <blackflow> nikolam: yeah, that.
[10:23] <blackflow> minus an occasional bug in ZoL that prevents zfs send|recv between ZoL in artful/xenial  and  FreeBSD :)
[10:24] <nikolam> Only thing I have seen after 18.04 install in Ubuntu is a problem with recognizing older ZFS datasets (got to see how old), other then that it works
[10:24] <blackflow> fixed in Bionic with 0.7.5, thankfully.
[10:24] <nikolam> blackflow, ah didn't know that. great.
[10:24] <blackflow> nikolam: bug #1733230
[10:25] <blackflow> it's actually a problem in ZoL that was fixed in the 0.7.x branch, and so far that was the only problem for shared ZFS pools with same feature flags, that I encountered.
[10:26] <nikolam> This one is #1771091
[10:27] <blackflow> nikolam: how much older pools? I upgraded an artful root on encrypted zpool to bionic test server, and it all went well.
[10:27] <blackflow> (as that's 0.6.x to 0.7.x switch)
[10:29] <nikolam> blackflow, sorry need to determine that. Maybe even pre-Feature flags. Will need to check that.
[10:29] <afidegnum> hello, how do I check the list of available RAID disks?
[10:30] <nikolam> afidegnum, depending on RAID system you use. if you are using RAID hardware controller, check your hardware documentation. If using native Linux RAID, check mdadm
[10:31] <afidegnum> yes i m using Linux RAID
[10:37] <blackflow> afidegnum: I keep this handy: http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/
[10:38] <blackflow> *keep this bookmarked
[10:43] <Jigglypuff> Hi guys!
[10:45] <Jigglypuff> I have a problem whith my pc's bluetooth
[10:46] <hateball> !details | Jigglypuff
[10:49] <Jigglypuff> On my pc is installed Elementary os, and when I turn on the bluetooth it does not send me nor receive files, images ... besides it does not find the devices nearby.
[10:52] <Jigglypuff> ubottu how should I make you see this information?
[10:53] <ledeni> Jigglypuff: and what you looking for here it is ubuntu support channel
[10:53] <sarcastico> Jigglypuff is a pokemon?
[10:53] <sarcastico> :D
[10:53] <Jigglypuff> Yes XD
[10:54] <sarcastico> funny
[10:54] <Jigglypuff> Sorry but I can not find support for Elementary!
[10:55] <Jigglypuff> Sarcastico are you italian?
[10:55] <sarcastico> Jigglypuff: not! I´m brazilian!
[10:55] <FortNhyver> hi All
[10:57] <Jigglypuff> Hi
[10:59] <compdoc> been a year since Elementary OS was last updated. maybe its time to use ubuntu
[11:02] <Jigglypuff> I find myself very well, actually. I only have this little problem with bluetooth.
[11:03] <compdoc> is the bluetooth adapter seen?
[11:03] <compdoc> you can try the command lspci
[11:04] <Jigglypuff> on the terminal?
[11:04] <hateball> !elementary
[11:05] <compdoc> also after removing the BT device and plugging it in, try the command: dmesg|tail
[11:06] <compdoc> might also look here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:07] <Jigglypuff> Thanks compdoc
[11:08] <Jigglypuff> But it seems that the bluethoot device has disappeared on my PC :/
[11:22] <Norux> Hi guys, quick question. I have set up a RAID5 using mdadm; how can I freshly install kubuntu on it? Or port my existing system over to the RAID, so that it will be bootable?
[11:39] <zack_s_> where is the /etc/network/interfaces file in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[11:43] <Norux> zack_s_: the exact same location
[11:44] <zack_s_> Norux: there seems to be a /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml file now
[11:45] <Norux> zack_s_: No idea about it, but this might be helpful: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan
[11:49] <janat08> where are system settings for anti aliasing
[11:51] <Ool> zack_s_: you can fallback with /e/n/i if you want
[11:55] <sveinse> Any other that is experiencing problems running external screens from a hybrid (nvidia) graphics laptop on the two latest kernels? The -22 and -20 hangs the machine, while the -15 work fine.
[11:55] <sveinse> on 18.04
[12:03] <ioria> sveinse, no idea ... and without external screen ?
[12:04] <sveinse> ioria: works fine. So whenever I'm working on the move without external screens, I pick the latest kernel. While at my workdesk with the dock and external screen, I have to boot the -15 kernel for the machine to work
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:06] <ioria> sveinse,  read somewhere ,iirc, an issue about the dock ... but not sure; can you boot withou it ?
[12:06] <Lorphos> Hi. How do I enable virtual desktops on Bionic with Gnome3?
[12:07] <sveinse> ioria: not if I want to connect external screens, no
[12:08] <ioria> sveinse, ok
[12:09] <smittix> Afternoon all.
[12:11] <Lorphos> can i orient gnome3 workspaces in a 2x2 grid?
[12:12] <smittix> Does anyone have any idea about this particular issue. Fresh install of 18.04 with a radeon GPU. first display is fine but secondary is black with no image. Screen works on previous version all connections are fine too. The mouse seems to go to the other screen and doesn't stop on the main one. driver seems to be loaded also.
[12:13] <Lorphos> which drivers are you using?
[12:14] <mpeg> have u checked the display settings smittix ?
[12:14] <Lorphos> and which radeon gpu?
[12:14] <Lorphos> if you just added the second screen, perhaps you just need to log out and back in
[12:16] <anavarro> Hi folks, Any idea why my hdmi external monitor connection stopped working? How can I check what's happening?
[12:16] <smittix> Lorphos: Opensource driver
[12:16] <smittix> mpeg: Yeah it's detected and set to extended.
[12:17] <smittix> Lorphos: It was there on install, I've rebooted a few times for other things and still no dice.
[12:17] <smittix> Lorphos: It's an Radeon R9 200 series
[12:17] <sveinse> anavarro: what graphics chip make do you have? nvidia, intel or radeon?
[12:18] <anavarro> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5917 (rev 07)
[12:18] <anavarro> 00:13.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Intel Corporation Device 9d35 (rev 21)
[12:18] <anavarro> That is the output for: lspci | grep VGA
[12:19] <anavarro> It was working perfectly fine and after rebooting it stopped working.
[12:19] <sveinse> anavarro: which kernel are you running now?
[12:19] <anavarro> Let me check that out
[12:20] <sveinse> anavarro: is is plausible that the kernel has been upgraded very recently?
[12:20] <sveinse> I got a new -22 kernel yesterday or so
[12:20] <anavarro> Linux anavarro-Inspiron-5579 4.13.0-43-generic #48~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 17 12:56:46 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:20] <anavarro> Does that work?
[12:21] <sveinse> anavarro: this is on 17.10 ?
[12:21] <mpeg> that version is fine anavarro . i use that too and have no problem
[12:22] <anavarro> no. I'm running on 16.04 LTS
[12:41] <blackbinary> hu guys :)
[12:43] <blackbinary>  i have a little question about the newer version of NetworkManager (using 18.04) - is there no vlan support integrated?  i am looking for a way to configure vlans with my notebook but is see no easy way to do that. i need to change the interface often so the optimal way would be a UI
[12:44] <meep-meep> hello
[12:44] <blackbinary> i see the old version of networkmanager had vlan support - why is it now missing ?
[12:44] <blackbinary> hi
[12:44] <meep-meep> Is it possible to set up a mirror (on a LAN) using FTP and an extracted ISO file?
[12:46] <blackflow> blackbinary: because Gnome and NM have been removing useful features. It used to be possible to set up search domain and other dns details via NM, but no more since 17.10 or 17.04, forgot.
[12:46] <blackflow> ah yes, 17.10. Unity's NM had that.
[12:46] <meep-meep> I've tried, FTP daemon works fine (anonymous login). Booted with minimal disc, pointed installer to FTP server, connects, but then tells me that the releases don't match (installer disc doesn't match the release found on my FTP server).
[12:47] <meep-meep> but they're both 16.04
[12:48] <blackbinary> blackflow:  i would change my version for stuff like that but i need a very uptodate linux for my Razer Blade notebook :(
[12:49] <Ool> blackbinary: is not missing (I guest) It's just different https://netplan.io/examples#vlans
[12:50] <blackflow> blackbinary: can't you use the recent kernels with Xenial?
[12:50] <blackbinary> 0ol: yeah, netplan is just configured to use the networkmanager: "renderer: NetworkManager"
[12:50] <blackflow> the HWE kernels
[12:50] <Ool> but clearly when you need combinate vlan, bridge … it's seem easier to switch back to ifupdown
[12:50] <Ool> oh with NM…
[12:52] <meep-meep> :D
[12:53] <nrao> hello
[12:53] <blackbinary> blackflow: maybe,  i dont want do that crazy stuff with the old ubuntu  i nee thunderbold3 support. in fact ubuntu 17.10+ is the only Linux dist i was able to boot. i would prefer debian but that looked imposible to me with my new hardware
[12:54] <blackflow> blackbinary: what do you need? just the recent kernel?
[12:54] <blackflow> blackbinary: does it also require newest userland support?
[12:54] <Ool> HWE support ?
[12:55] <nrao> I have a problem with my Ubuntu 16.04 network driver.. anyone who can help ?
[12:55] <blackbinary> blackflow: i can tell you that exactly, i dont know, i only know 17.10 able to boot older  linux did not even had video in the install medium
[12:56] <blackbinary> cant*
[12:56] <blackflow> blackbinary: well, dunno what to say. the trend is to remove features and make it all usefull to non-techies. at the expense of configurability and flexibility. good luck with that netplan abstraction of abstraction.
[12:57] <blackbinary> i moved from apple back to linux to have techie stuff :(
[12:58] <Guest22966> i can get help for Kubuntu here?
[12:58] <compdoc> maybe
[12:58] <blackflow> blackbinary: wrong distro then :)
[13:00] <blackbinary>  okay, which is to pick? i need a modern Distro because of my new hardware :/
[13:01] <BluesKaj> netplan is clunky, one is better off using ifupdown and static or dhcp settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:01] <blackflow> blackbinary: Gentoo, ArchLinux, Fedora, Debian Testing. Take your pick.
[13:01] <blackflow> BluesKaj: yup. or maybe even networkd directly?
[13:01] <anavarro> Any idea why my hdmi external monitor connection stopped working? How can I check what's happening?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> blackflow, dunno much about networkd, never tried to edi t it
[13:06] <blackbinary> well maybe i have to test arch linux
[13:06] <blackbinary> debian is way back in sable release
[13:07] <blackbinary> gentoo, yeah that is not realy an option
[13:07] <TJ-> blackbinary: if you just want to guarantee hardware support, Ubuntu has Hardware Enablement (HWE) kernel releases for that purpose
[13:10] <blackflow> blackbinary: your choice. But if you want maximum flexibility and control over your computing, gentoo is the way to go.
[13:11] <compdoc> ick
[13:13] <blackbinary> i know, gentoo was my first distro 15 years ago, but know i dont want do all the basic things by hand, its a notebook after all, ubuntu does a greate job in handle all the basic stuff like powermanagement, hardware support, HiDPI handling, UI usability
[13:13] <Blinky_> Hi all, I have started using ubuntu 18 for a media pc as Win10 crashed again during an update.  I use it for iplayer, plex and netflix mainly.  Could someone please tel me if it is possible to get 1080p from Netflix without any hacks to browsers?
[13:17] <blackflow> blackbinary: I guess arch is the next close to that
[13:18] <blackbinary> :/  will test it
[13:19] <blackbinary> but i think different DPI on multiple Screens is equally bad supported on all Dists right?
[13:23] <ni0o> hi , does any one know how to install gdb peda?
[13:26] <freemoney> $200 of free coins at http://airdrop.easyoption.io/#qglr582b9zg you need a wallet to get these coins. get a wallet at https://www.myetherwallet.com/
[13:26] <blackflow> blackbinary: yeah I think that's xorg's fault.
[13:27] <compdoc> think I'll keep my wallet in my pants
[13:29] <blackflow> blackbinary: could also be desktop environment's multi-monitor setup. for example I never had issues under Unity, and did have issues under Gnome. Nowadays I just use i3wm which has excellent multimonitor support, but I don't know how ti behaves with different DPIs, I have two same HD1080 monitors
[13:29] <blackflow> oh wow, free coins! sign me up for $1000!
[13:30] <freemoney> blackflow: seriously. it's an airdrop just get a wallet and follow the steps at http://airdrop.easyoption.io/#qglr582b9zg
[13:31] <Blinky_> Nothing is free, there is always a catch
[13:31] <freemoney> Blinky_: there is none. seriously.
[13:32] <compdoc> you get infected and have all your coins stolen
[13:32] <freemoney> there are people that got like a few K in those airdrops for free
[13:32] <freemoney> it's just like if the fed is doing helicopter money
[13:33] <freemoney> but then with cryptocurrencies
[13:33] <freemoney> this way they get around the SEC issues I suppose and get a big userbase very fast
[13:33] <compdoc> I love when the feds do that
[13:34] <hggdh> freemoney: please no ads here
[13:34] <freemoney> compdoc: well. now you can participate in http://airdrop.easyoption.io/#qglr582b9zg . only u get crypto's instead. you can always change for fiat ;-)
[13:35] <freemoney> hggdh: ok.
[13:35] <compdoc> no thanks
[13:35] <freemoney> lol
[13:35] <hggdh> compdoc: let's get back to topic, please
[13:35] <freemoney> it's like the test they once did ... they send a guy out on the streets with money to give away
[13:35] <freemoney> nobody wanted it
[13:35] <freemoney> LOL
[13:35] <hggdh> freemoney: second warning.
[13:36] <freemoney> hggdh: I did not post the link? or can't I reply on the topic at all?
[13:36] <hggdh> freemoney: no. This is a support *only* channel. If you want to chat, there are other channels
[13:37] <freemoney> hggdh: ok. thx
[13:39] <Blinky_> How many people do you con in a month?  Do you have nothing better to do with your ti
[13:39] <Blinky_> time?
[13:40] <hggdh> Blinky_: as I already asked, let's keep on topic
[13:40] <Blinky_> my bad, just pi**es me off
[13:40] <orlando_> hello
[13:40] <Blinky_> hi
[13:40] <hggdh> Blinky_: I understand. BUT... please don't
[13:52] <mine__> where can I find this in Ubuntu? https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
[13:53] <hggdh> mine__: Settings/Devices/Keyboard
[13:54] <hggdh> mine__: alternatively, open Settings, and search for keyboard
[13:55] <mine__> oh duh
[13:55] <mine__> thanks
[13:55] <hggdh> yw
[13:55] <lucidguy> Anyone know how to enable workspace grid, not a huge row of them, in 18.04
[13:56] <lucidguy> Is this really the way to go?  https://github.com/zakkak/workspace-grid
[13:56] <mine__> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
[13:58] <kkrwl> Hello, is there any way to customize ubuntu 18.04 default touchscreen keyboard?
[13:58] <kkrwl> I want to remove the transparency
[13:59] <Matt_91website> hello, I'm trying to setup a bridged network for kvm on ubuntu 18.04, and can't even do simple things with /etc/network/interfaces
[13:59] <mattfly> what is the name of the protocol an aplication has to have so that  KDE plasma can restore the sessions? It starts with X***
[13:59] <mattfly> ???
[13:59] <Matt_91website> like set eno1 to normal dhcp
[14:02] <kkrwl> Was disconnected, i'll repeat my question, how to customize ubuntu 18.04 onscreen keyboard (touchscreen) ? I want to remove it's transparency.
[14:02] <jhave> Hello
[14:02] <jhave> I try to setup a storage server on Ubuntu 16.04
[14:03] <jhave> but when i try to access it from another server i got this error
[14:03] <jhave> mount error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 10.90.166.6:/backup/node1 (500)
[14:05] <jhave> This is my export file
[14:06] <jhave> "/backup/node1 10.91.210.127(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)"
[14:07] <rickmorty0_> hypragude , I found the wpa2 list , its got most european regions :) pastebin.com/NqVJEYB4
[14:09] <ohjeachan> hey
[14:11] <DeathTickle> is there any way to theme Gnome Sudoku ?
[14:13] <ohjeachan> have you tried setting the shell under tweaks as the theme you want?
[14:14] <DeathTickle> well I don't want to change anything else apart from Gnome Sudoku's game board, similar to how you can choose the appearance in gnome mines
[14:15] <ohjeachan> ah okay, I don't know about that but maybe somebody else does
[14:16] <sk_> Does anyone have bare minimal openbox confs for ubuntu 16.04?
[14:19] <ohjeachan> Speaking of Gnome, anyone know why the netinstallboth 17.10 and 18.04 have the option to install a Vanilla Gnome DE but when that option is selected it only downloads 80+ packages and all your left with is the barebones?
[14:21] <mine__> barebones?
[14:21] <ohjeachan> like with a basic server installation
[14:24] <mine__> https://itsfoss.com/vanilla-gnome-ubuntu/
[14:24] <mine__> did you do it this way?
[14:26] <ohjeachan> No just netinstall and chose Vanilla Gnome Desktop in the options at package select
[14:27] <compdoc> never heard of Vanilla Gnome Desktop. I might try that
[14:28] <jorc_> my computer freezes randomly. i think that the memory become full so fast, but i dont know
[14:28] <ohjeachan> It's just the standard Gnome Desktop without the Ubuntu themes and login/lock screen
[14:28] <mine__> isn't that what you'd expect?
[14:29] <compdoc> jorc_, run the memtest for a few passes. and bad power supplies can do that, as well as failing hard drives
[14:29] <mine__> vanilla gnome is horrible anyway
[14:29] <compdoc> I use ubuntu mate
[14:30] <mine__> gnome is good when you customize it
[14:30] <jorc_> how? compdoc
[14:30] <mine__> but it has a tendency to crash and slow down
[14:30] <compdoc> jorc_, boot the Ubuntu installer, and theres an option to test memory
[14:30] <BluesKaj>  jorc_ is your machine more than 10 yrs old?
[14:31] <compdoc> jorc_, you can also d/l memtest86 as well
[14:31] <jorc_> nope BluesKaj,
[14:31] <pthomas_> OK, I see lot's of ways to restart network-manager, but how to restart networking to reread /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:32] <ohjeachan> Still why even have the option to install "Vanilla Gnome Desktop" under the netinstall package list if it doesn't work?
[14:33] <anddam> is /bin/sh symlinking dash an alternative or is it hardcoded in debian/ubuntu?
[14:33] <Prospero_1> /etc/init.d/networking restart ---maybe?
[14:33] <Prospero_1> service networking restart --maybe?
[14:34] <pthomas_> ok, I don't have /etc/ini.d/networking, trying to search now what package would provide that (18.04)
[14:34] <jorc> help me to use memtest on my pc
[14:34] <jorc> on boot i don't see the memtest option
[14:34] <jorc> then, how?
[14:35] <pthomas_> it's in ifupdown, installing now
[14:36] <pthomas_> ok that worked, doing a restart test now
[14:38] <BluesKaj> pthomas_, in order to use /etc/networking , you need to disable network-manager, otherwise it's ignored
[14:40] <Gnjurac> why is there no micro text editor in repo
[14:40] <Gnjurac> or am i blind
[14:41] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: micro text editor?
[14:41] <Gnjurac> https://github.com/zyedidia/micro
[14:41] <Gnjurac> yep i really liked it , i used it on void
[14:41] <Gnjurac> its like nano + better keybidings
[14:41] <manuelschneid3r> using autobahn  how do I connect to a url with path component?
[14:42] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: talk to the maintainer. It's up to them to get it into the Ubuntu repositories
[14:43] <Gnjurac> there is basicly nothing to mentain its just 1 file
[14:43] <Gnjurac> binary
[14:44] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: it's up to the developer/maintainer to submit it for inclusion in the Ubuntu repositories
[14:44] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: sudo snap install micro
[14:45] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: it tells you exactly how to install it using snap in it's README
[14:45] <Gnjurac> beh dont want whole snap cuz 1mb package
[14:46] <Gnjurac> i justt took bin and exported path
[14:46] <Gnjurac> hopfuly it will work
[14:46] <ericrajuin> compile from source :D
[14:47] <MeiR> how can i verify what i better include in "arch" option inside sources list?
[14:48] <leftyfb> MeiR: what architecture are you on?
[14:48] <MeiR> uname -m writes x86_64
[14:48] <MeiR> this filtering according to my need has confused me: https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=harukasan&distro=Ubuntu&distro_release=trusty--ubuntu_trusty&version=10.0
[14:49] <leftyfb> MeiR: then you don't need to specify architecture in your sources.list
[14:49] <leftyfb> MeiR: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? On what version of ubuntu?
[14:49] <MeiR> i already used their suggested command and upgraded MariaDB successfully
[14:50] <MeiR> but i'm wondering why in the add-apt-repository command they suggest [arch=amd64,i386,ppc64el], while in the line to add to "sources.list" they suggest [arch=amd64,i386]
[14:51] <leftyfb> you don't need any of them
[14:51] <MeiR> i understand that it's not need to my architecture anyway, but curoius to know
[14:51] <MeiR> needed*
[14:51] <tgm4883> MeiR: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
[14:51] <tgm4883> "apt-sources can be architecture qualified with this syntax. This is very useful on Ubuntu's split archive. It is not normally necessary on Debian unless your normal archive does not mirror the extra architectures you are interested in."
[14:53] <MeiR> thanks tgm4883. actually, "dpkg --print-architecture" gives me amd64
[14:53] <kiriuha> hello
[14:55] <MeiR> leftyfb, are they suggesting to include archs for covering all kind of archtiectures?
[14:55] <leftyfb> kiriuha: Hello. This is a support channel. What can we help you with?
[14:55] <leftyfb> MeiR: probably
[14:55] <MeiR> then i'm still wondering why they omitted the "ppc64el" in the line to add to sources.list. a bug?
[14:56] <leftyfb> MeiR: ask them
[14:57] <MeiR> heh, i'll ask differently. can it have a negative direct affect on users who indeed have ppc64el arch?
[14:57] <leftyfb> MeiR: do you have ppc64el?
[14:57] <MeiR> i'm very new to linux world, then sorry for the ignorance
[14:57] <MeiR> we just concluded that i don't
[14:58] <MeiR> but i'm willing to understand the affect of the mistake on their site, and if i should bother to report it to them at all
[14:58] <manuelschneid3r> guys can sombody please help me with autobahn ? im stuck with the simplest thing
[14:58] <manuelschneid3r> i just need to connect to an url with path. when I run it just nothing happens
[15:00] <manuelschneid3r> nobody experienced with autobahn here?
[15:03] <Zedax> hello, i'm trying to mount an existing raid 5 intel raid, but i'm not able to see an availible /dev/mdx device to mount..i must be missing something, i did "mdadm --assemble --scan" which found the array and saved it in /etc, but how i'm supposed to make it appear as a device?
[15:03] <alexandr> есть русский сапорт по убунту?
[15:04] <leftyfb> !ru | alexandr
[15:04] <wad> (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bit desktop edition) My boot partition keeps running out of disk space. I've done "apt-get autoremove", but it looks like there are still a bunch of past versions of things hanging out in there. How can I tell what kernel I'm currently using? Can I delete these older ones, or will I b0rk my system?
[15:04] <jnewt> first time i booted windows in over 3 months was today  so slow to compile for my sw dev.  reason: my apps on ubuntu (cutecom and mplabx) could no longer see usbdevices.   lsusb showed them, 760 perms on /dev/ttyUSB0, sane finds them, but the apps can't see them.  maybe some update broke them?
[15:04] <jmgb4> I have a strange issue here I am not sure how to explain. Been messing around with it with no luck trying to fix it on my own.... In my terminal, whenever I use SSH it seems to echo whatever command or whatever I enter into it back to me. It still send the command to the server but it messes up some other things like if I want to copy and paste multiple commands in.
[15:05] <jnewt> mentioned sane b/c same thing happened with simple scan.  it's like gui apps lost touch with the backend or something.
[15:05] <leftyfb> jnewt: Ubuntu does not affect the performance of Windows
[15:06] <jnewt> leftyfb, i am aware.  i was just saying that compiling on windows is much slower and I'd like to get my Ubuntu issues fixed so I don't have to use it any longer
[15:06] <jnewt> it's unnecessary info for the problem
[15:06] <tgm4883> jnewt: yea, that wasn't clear at all
[15:06] <wad> Here's what I have: https://pastebin.com/rW9U9KZL
[15:07] <leftyfb> wad: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[15:08] <wad> Thanks!
[15:09] <jnewt> tgm4883, is the problem clear now?   none of my gui apps can use my hardware anymore.   simplescan, mplabx, cutecom are affected.  sane finds all devices, lsusb shows them.  no errors in dmesg, devices show in dmesg
[15:10] <alexandr> !ru
[15:10] <alexandr> чет там не отвечает никто (
[15:11] <leftyfb> !ru | alexandr
[15:11] <mpeg> can we please switch back to english? we all need help
[15:11] <mpeg> or am i in a wrong channel?
[15:11] <Freekid> guys ubuntu vs debian which one is better?
[15:12] <libben> Anyone know how I would go about to assign my host with a virtual ip and get it from my routerVM on that host.
[15:12] <leftyfb> Freekid: that's not a question you ask here.
[15:12] <mpeg> obviously debian
[15:12] <leftyfb> Freekid: Try both and decide for yourself
[15:12] <leftyfb> mpeg: please don't
[15:12] <mpeg> okay boss
[15:13] <leftyfb> libben: create a virtual interface and set it to dhcp
[15:14] <libben> and bridge that virtual interface to one of my nics on the router vm.
[15:14] <libben> ?
[15:14] <libben> My router vm will have pass thru nics
[15:14] <libben> So there is no software layer
[15:14] <leftyfb> libben: why such a complicated setup?
[15:15] <libben> Cause I have a mini pc that I will put opnsense on. and its powerfull enough to also be a small server and kodi player under the teve.
[15:16] <libben> I could do this physical also, just let the host have one of the nics, and then put a physical cable between the interfaces =)
[15:16] <libben> but seems a bit silly
[15:18] <tgm4883> libben: if you have pass through NICs to your routerVM, surely one of those NICs is going to a switch for the rest of your network?
[15:18] <libben> tgm4883 nope
[15:18] <libben> I only have one pc at home
[15:18] <libben> rest is wifi
[15:19] <libben> This minipc has 4 intel nics with gigabit
[15:19] <libben> thats why im putting a routerVM on it and passing thru nics
[15:19] <libben> I just need a way to assign my host a virtual nic somehow and be able to get access thru the routervm
[15:20] <libben> the easiset way is just to fix a short ethernet cable 3-4 inch
[15:20] <owner_1> test test
[15:21] <leftyfb> owner_1: This is an ubuntu support channel. Feel free to get IRC support at #freenode
[15:24] <Dirkos> Anyone knows where to find below problem: Seems that when i trace an IP it resolves locally?
[15:24] <Dirkos> https://gist.github.com/pimjansen/e6aa001756301ea426b89bfb231d462f
[15:24] <Dirkos> Or what does !H mean?
[15:34] <philroche> Hi all. Looking for some guidance on where to file a bug. On my 18.04 desktop installs (Gnome shell and Ubuntu Mate) when mounting network shares (smb and nfs) they no longer appear under Devices in file manager (Nautilus and Caja), the mounts do succeed and are accessible at their mount points. In 16.04 and 17.10 these mounts appeared under Devices. Is anyone else experiencing this and where should I file a bug,
[15:34] <philroche> or perhaps it is an intentional change?
[15:35] <dreadkopp> hey guys. i've got trouble running a bash script as a systemd service ... this is the script . it simply should restart the pfsense router vm if there is no internetconnection since it looses WAN connection sometimes
[15:35] <dreadkopp> https://hastebin.com/otepelaciv.bash
[15:36] <dreadkopp> service is pretty straightforward: https://hastebin.com/abelukuwer.ini
[15:36] <coisweb> hey guys how can i kill all process in nohup ?
[15:36] <dreadkopp> however after the initial 300s sleep the service stops killing the bashscript as well (?9
[15:36] <dreadkopp> "Failed with result 'timeout'"
[15:53] <moffa> Hello, systemctl status {program} used to display CPU and memory information in 14.04, I've upgraded to 18.04 and the information is no longer there. Is there an option to display it?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> moffa, install gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor
[16:06] <Ascavasaion> I am trying to map a folder in Windows 7 on an ubuntu machine.  I can log in with my phone's filemanager, and my mediaplayer can log into it to browse multimedia.  Any ideas why Windows 7 is not allowing me to with the same login and password?
[16:08] <moffa> I'm running it off a server. I figured it out, you have to use "systemctl set-property {service/target} CPUAccounting=Yes MemoryAccounting=YES"
[16:08] <coisweb> hey guys how can i kill all process in nohup ?
[16:10] <jmgb4> Alright anybody know what ubuntu changed in SSH? Something about key mappings is causing stuff to really crap out whenever I want to work on an older firewall.
[16:11] <moffa> @coisweb just kill the nohup process
[16:12] <krobzaur> Anybody here got libreoffice impress skills?
[16:13] <krobzaur> I have an extremely specific request for help
[16:14] <BluesKaj> what's the gnome equivalent to kdeconnect?
[16:22] <prist> всем привет! посоветуйте пожалуйста экранную клаиатуру для Ubuntu 16.04
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> !ru | prist
[16:24] <mine__> @BluesKaj it's called gsconnect
[16:25] <philroche> BluesKaj: https://github.com/andyholmes/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect
[16:28] <BluesKaj> thanks mine__, philroche
[16:28] <Ascavasaion_> I am trying to map a folder in Windows 7 on an ubuntu machine.  I can log in with my phone's filemanager, and my mediaplayer can log into it to browse multimedia.  Any ideas why Windows 7 is not allowing me to with the same login and password?
[16:29] <oli______> anyone know what the netstat output of :::* mean as far as connection from outside server?
[16:29] <oli______> tcp6       0      0 :::55000                :::*                    LISTEN
[16:30] <oli______> does that mean I can access it from outside ?  It seems like it might not be ok.
[16:30] <enyc> oli______: probably yes, on tcp port 55000
[16:30] <oli______> hm ok cause I can't seem to telnet from outside server.....
[16:31] <enyc> oli______: unless the socket was created with 'ipv6only' option, that ALSO allows IPv4 connectiosn to tcp port 55000 .
[16:32] <enyc> oli______: however this is all subject to firewalling within your machine or outside network too
[16:32] <oli______> yeah it seems like I should....
[16:43] <stewie925> hello guys, really stupid ubuntu question
[16:44] <stewie925> i created a script containing export env variable statements - but when I tried to source it and run echo command against the variable, it remains blank
[16:44] <stewie925> the script just contains this one line "export $MYSQL_PASSWORD='gogiants' "
[16:44] <stewie925> then I do "source <name of script>"
[16:45] <stewie925> echo $MYSQL_PASSWORD -> returns blank
[16:45] <tgm4883> stewie925: remove the $ in your export line
[16:46] <stewie925> sory my mistake, I actually dont have $ in my script
[16:46] <stewie925> export MYSQL_PASSWORD='gogiants'
[16:46] <stewie925> I dont think I need#!bin/sh
[16:55] <jmgb4> Anybody know if the locale was changed from 17 to 18? I am trying hard to chase down this issue with my key mapping not working correctly on an older server.
[16:56] <Ascavasaion> I am trying to map a folder in Windows 7 on an ubuntu machine.  I can log in with my phone's filemanager, and my mediaplayer can log into it to browse multimedia.  Any ideas why Windows 7 is not allowing me to with the same login and password?
[16:58] <matjam> Ascavasaion: yeah I doubt you're going to find anyone here who can solve that one. Have you googled it? Maybe Windows 7 is expecting a certain level of security samba doesn'
[16:58] <matjam> t support
[16:58] <matjam> but I'm just guessing
[16:59] <matjam> samba has a lot of configuration items you could try anything that looks relevant and see if that fixes it
[17:00] <Ascavasaion> matjam: It worked until I did distro upgrade from 16 LTS to 18LTS
[17:00] <matjam> still doesn't mean that there isn't something you need to do on windows side
[17:00] <matjam> might have bumped the crypto on samba, which windows 7 doesnt support
[17:00] <matjam> maybe windows 7 is using insecure crypto
[17:01] <matjam> and samba needs to be configured to allow it
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: also its still not reccomended to lts to lts upgrade yet
[17:01] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Oh
[17:01] <compdoc> Ascavasaion, Ive seen changes to the windows registry sometimes needed to access samba shares
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | Ascavasaion
[17:01] <matjam> Ascavasaion: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/fb269dda-2cc6-40c0-8449-3c3d4c697a33/windows-7-cannot-access-samba-shares?forum=w7itpronetworking
[17:01] <matjam> that was the top result in google
[17:01] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: I did it when they released it
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: your the admin of your machine, we just dont reccomend it yet
[17:02] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: I hear you... a bit late for me now.
[17:02] <matjam> on the bright side, it probably would have broken then anyway
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> matjam: its not specific for upgrade breaking that i mentioned this
[17:04] <matjam> I know
[17:04] <matjam> I can read your mind
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:04] <compdoc> stewie925, this script works for me:   https://pastebin.com/fBZU1WME
[17:07] <stewie925> thank you compdoc
[17:07] <stewie925> running behind firewall couldnt open that doc :(
[17:07] <stewie925> link, I mean
[17:07] <matjam> Ascavasion left
[17:07] <compdoc> pastebin.com is fairly safe
[17:12] <Badegakk> This is a shot in the dark, anyone who has experience with setting up a Avorion Server (game)? I cant figure out how set listening ip, dunno if its even posible. I have 10x ips so its a bit anyoing
[17:14] <stewie925> compdoc: http://paste.openstack.org/show/721812/
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Badegakk: there is a nice #gamingonlinux channel if you like, sounds like a specific job your after
[17:15] <matjam> Badegakk: if the avorion server doesn't support binding to a specific IP you might be out of luck
[17:16] <matjam> though, you could always hack a library with a listen() call that only listens on specific IPs and do a LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack if you're into C programming :P
[17:17] <matjam> Badegakk: avorion seems cool but I was never able to get into it
[17:25] <Badegakk> matjam, Thx, i hope it will suported in the future. At least dont have to look around anymore.
[17:25] <klemax> when i upgrade my system from 17.10 to 18.04, my configuration files will change?
[17:26] <Badegakk> matjam, I like the game a lot. But it is time consuming
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> klemax: on upgrades your /home remains saved
[17:26] <Badegakk> lotuspsychje, thx
[17:26] <klemax> lotuspsychje, what about some parameters in kernel?
[17:27] <klemax> or apache configurations.
[17:30] <Badegakk> I am not 100% sure, but if do dist-upgrade withou -y i think you will get quetions about if you want to use new or old config files.
[17:31] <Badegakk> But its a server your upgrading you will always have to backup before major update. You never know
[17:31] <klemax> Badegakk, i did it without -y.
[17:31] <Pounder> To many liberals here that think it is okay for Obama to spy on the opposition. Remember what Obama's IRS did a few years ago
[17:32] <Badegakk> Conspiracy mmmmmmm
[17:32] <DeathTickle> klemax when upgrading my ubuntu 17 to 18, my apache configuration and other server software configuration was preserved
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> Pounder: only ubuntu support here please
[17:33] <klemax> DeathTickle, ok thanks
[17:36] <stewie925> compdoc: i deleted the file and re-created a new one, and now i am able to source the env variables.... strange but happy that it now works
[17:44] <Freekid> hi it seemd "sudo iotop" not working in ubuntu server
[17:44] <Freekid> *seems
[17:46] <eelstrebor> what video capture devices are known to work on ubuntu 16.04.4?
[17:51] <Rumen> Hi there!
[17:52] <Rumen> I want to ask ... as I can't find ... is there a progarm GUI that I can use to change the theme for the GDM login?
[17:52] <Rumen> There were before Ubutnu-tweak, GDM Setup etc ....
[17:52] <Rumen> here in Bionic?
[17:54] <Rumen> Lets say I want to change the theme with that one https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1010256/
[17:54] <Rumen> How to install the new theme?
[17:56] <matjam> Rumen: I don't believe so; if you want to change the look and feel you can install lightdm and there's a gui for that
[17:57] <matjam> (it's what I did when I was running stock ubuntu)
[18:06] <elias_a> Is upgrade 16.04 -> 18.04 using an USB stick supported?
[18:06] <matjam> elias_a: upgrades from 16.04 to 18.04 are not recommended until 18.04.1 is released in july
[18:07] <elias_a> matjam: Ok. In that case I will wait for that. Thank you!
[18:07] <matjam> no worries
[18:08] <Gigabitten> Oh no... a windows update broke grub and now it boots right to Windows again. And I had to go through such a convoluted set of steps to fix this problem the first time.
[18:09] <matjam> Gigabitten: you should be able to boot from a CD or USB stick and then run Boot-Repair
[18:09] <matjam> Gigabitten: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:10] <Gigabitten> boot-repair didn't fix it the first time; it just made things annoying once it was fixed
[18:10] <BluesKaj> Gigabitten how can windows update break grub? I'm curious
[18:12] <Gigabitten> BluesKaj: When I was installing Lubuntu, I couldn't get it to boot to grub with any solution I could find. I asked about it, and somebody here helped me replace the Windows bootloader with grub, to trick my computer into loading grub. The update apparently updated the Windows bootloader, and now all I did seems to be undone.
[18:13] <jmgb4> Ah ha,  finally figured out the issue. Openssh dropped sshv1 support
[18:13] <jmgb4> Now I just need to figure out how to downgrade to 1.7.5
[18:14] <BluesKaj> uefi  boot , what pita
[18:14] <jmgb4> BluesKaj, Yup
[18:15] <kittykitty> anyone know how to use the i965 driver instead of the i915 driver for intel integrated? Tried blacklisting i915 but it still loaded
[18:17] <BluesKaj> my bios is a somewhat of a hybrid , no legacy mode, almost a pure good old BIOS with UEFI options. It's on a MSI Z370 pro mobo ..love it :-)
[18:17] <Rumen> Thanks <matjam>
[18:18] <matjam> Rumen: np
[18:19] <BluesKaj> kittykitty, it's obvious that the 915 is your correct driver
[18:19] <kittykitty> thought sandybridge was i965 BluesKaj ?
[18:21] <kittykitty> BluesKaj: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep so gives back i965 so files if that helps
[18:23] <jmgb4> BluesKaj, I have the same one
[18:23] <jmgb4> BluesKaj, Are you running the i7 on it?
[18:26] <nessub> hello
[18:27] <nessub> bonjour
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> !fr | nessub
[18:28] <thorie1> when i check `df -h` i have `/dev/sda1` mounted on `/` using 13GB of 14GB 98% in use, but if i run `sudo du -sh /` it says it's only 3.0 G and when i run `sudo ncdu /` it also shows only 2 GB total ... where is the rest of the ~11 GB or so being used on my disk?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> jmgb4, no I'm using an i3
[18:29] <jmgb4> BluesKaj, Why would you get such a sweet mobo and put an i3 on it?
[18:29] <jmgb4> brb
[18:30] <BluesKaj> , no, the i3 is on my laptop, ..use nvidia with MSI on my desktop pc
[18:31] <BluesKaj> bbl..
[18:32] <thorie1> nevermind i found my answer here https://serverfault.com/questions/275206/disk-full-du-tells-different-how-to-further-investigate
[18:34] <nessub> bonjour
[18:35] <nessub> :-)
[18:36] <nessub> bonjour
[18:37] <aboudreault> Hello, does anyone getting compilation speed issues? (gcc)
[18:37] <matjam> hi nessub we only speak english in here, sorry.
[18:37] <aboudreault> on 18.04
[18:37] <matjam> aboudreault: no.
[18:38] <nessub> ok thank you
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> aboudreault: That's a vague question. Many factors can attribute to compliation times, including the source code itself. You might want to check out ##programming
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> eelstrebor: kazam
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> thorie1: i always use bleachbit to free some space on ubuntu
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> Freekid: define 'not working'
[18:47] <Freekid> it says many things i forgot
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> Freekid: try again and hastebin us the output?
[18:49] <Freekid> Okay
[19:02] <RoadRunner> how to defragment an hd or partition?
[19:03] <syborg> RoadRunner, what kind of filesystem are you trying to defrag?
[19:04] <RoadRunner> ext4
[19:04] <syborg> Here https://askubuntu.com/questions/221079/how-to-defrag-an-ext4-filesystem
[19:05] <syborg> that said, I doubt you need to RoadRunner
[19:05] <syborg> I am not sure if you are aware, but ext4 is pretty good at avoiding excessive fragmentation
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> RoadRunner: you have a mechanical hd or ssd?
[19:06] <RoadRunner> syborg: so its done automaticallly then?
[19:07] <RoadRunner> lotuspsychje: mechanical hd
[19:07] <syborg> No RoadRunner, ext4 has built in techniques to avoid fragmentation. It isn't like NTFS or fat32 where defragmentation is a typical maintenance task
[19:08] <matjam> I've never had to defrag an ext4 filesystem
[19:09] <RoadRunner> syborg: good to know; so there is never a need for manual intervention?
[19:11] <syborg> Probably not RoadRunner, unless you are experiencing read/write performance issues and the partition is pretty full (85% or so) and has been in use for a long time
[19:12] <syborg> other than that I think you are good
[19:13] <RoadRunner> thanks :)
[19:13] <syborg> :)
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust:
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[19:21] <panter_> How can you change the .desktop file of a 'snap' package. It is mounted on a 'read-only' file system at /dev/loop16, which makes it impossible to change it. I am not able to remount it read and write.
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> panter_: you can't change a file you don't have write permissions to
[19:26] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: Why don't they want you to be able to change it?
[19:27] <nacc> panter_: so the experience is controlled, presumably
[19:27] <nacc> panter_: what do you want to change about it?
[19:28] <panter_> I want to have it gone, because the snap is an application that is only used by another application, not by me and it shows up first in gnome when I type the first letters of it.
[19:28] <nacc> panter_: dunno if that's possible currently, you can ask in #snappy
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> If this was 16.04, you could hide it by creating a .desktop file in your user folder that overrides the other .desktop
[19:28] <syborg> panter_, /dev/loop16 is a loop device. A loop device mounts an existing file on your filesystem (the snap image). You need to edit the snap image, by the sound of it. I have no experience with snaps though
[19:29] <syborg> I don't know if changes you make would be overwritten on updating the snap
[19:31] <syborg> This document tells you where in the image to find the .desktop file, panter_ : https://docs.snapcraft.io/snaps/metadata
[19:31] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: I'm on ubuntu 18.04 (gnome), so I guess this doesn't work now?
[19:33] <pengu> @panter that's the kind of thing people usually don't mess with
[19:34] <pengu> panter_, still remembering how to do stuff on irc
[19:34] <pengu> sorry
[19:35] <panter_> ;)
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> panter_: look at /snap in your drive... snaps are installed there... you may find the .desktop wiithin there and it may be editable. Note that updates to the snap are likely to overrwite those changes
[19:36] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: there are two .desktop files but they are not editable
[19:36] <panter_> the files are on a read-only file system
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> I don't think you're following panter_ ... in terminal "cd /snap" what are the contents?
[19:38] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: I think I am following
[19:38] <panter_> It list a /bin direcotry a REAMDE and my snaps
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> within there, if cd into the directory of the snap you're trying to "hide" and run "find ./ -type f -iname '*.desktop'" does it return anything?
[19:40] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: yes, I have allready said there are two .desktop files in the folders.
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> but they're in read-only?
[19:40] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: yes
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> panter_: Question, what is your role on the machine? Are you a user, or an admin?
[19:41] <panter_> pragmaticenigma: I have full control, I can use sudo, but that doesn't help.
[19:53] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: snaps are squashfs images mounted read only
[19:55] <nacc> panter_: did you ask in #snappy yet?
[19:56] <panter_> nacc: I still doing some research, also found out it are squashfs images. I am looking if I can find the raw image files somewhere.
[19:57] <nacc> panter_: i don't understand what you mean by 'raw image' files
[19:59] <nacc> panter_: but honestly, just ask in #snappy already. It's not worth digging into if it's not a supported thing.
[20:00] <panter_> nacc: I would allready asked it, but I find it rather fun digging in to this structure.
[20:00] <nacc> panter_: ok, at this point, it's a snappy question, not really an ubuntu one, tbh
[20:07] <okdana_> any ideas where i can get help building a package from source? the app-devel channel is dead
[20:07] <nacc> okdana_: #ubuntu-packaging
[20:08] <nacc> okdana_: what package are you building and why?
[20:08] <okdana_> trying to build systemd (specifically libsystemd) with a patch to fix a detect-virt error in the version that comes with bionic
[20:09] <okdana_> i can build it, but the library is missing a bunch of links to other libs, so it blows up
[20:09] <nacc> okdana_: i would suggest using a PPA to build it
[20:09] <nacc> okdana_: are you using sbuild or pbuilder, or ?
[20:10] <okdana_> just `apt-get source systemd && cd systemd*/ && dpkg-build -rfakeroot -b -uc`
[20:10] <nacc> okdana_: you mean `dpkg-buildpackage`
[20:10] <okdana_> buildpackage*
[20:10] <nacc> ?
[20:10] <okdana_> yeah
[20:11] <nacc> okdana_: well, you then need to have all the dependencies installed locally
[20:11] <nacc> *build dependencies
[20:11] <okdana_> yeah i've done `apt-get build-dep systemd`, and i can confirm after the fact that i have the -dev packages for the libraries my build is missing
[20:11] <nacc> okdana_: what is the actual error (use a pastebin)?
[20:12] <okdana_> sec
[20:15] <okdana_> ahaaa
[20:15] <okdana_> actually, i've just figured it out
[20:15] <okdana_> it builds TWO versions of libsystemd
[20:15] <okdana_> the one i wanted was buried a little deeper
[20:15] <okdana_> it has the correct links
[20:16] <okdana_> sorry, should have done a `find` or something before
[20:24] <backnforth> Hi, I have ubuntu 18.04 and I'm not sure how to uninstall php 7.2
[20:24] <leftyfb> backnforth: how did you install it?
[20:24] <backnforth> leftyfb,  I don't remember. Using the package manager probably.
[20:24] <luxio> how do I encrypt my ubuntu installation
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | luxio
[20:25] <backnforth> luxio,  you should have that option when going through the installation process
[20:25] <luxio> backnforth: I did but now I changed my mind
[20:25] <backnforth> luxio,  I'm not sure then
[20:25] <leftyfb> backnforth: sudo apt remove --purge php7.2
[20:25] <leftyfb> backnforth: just like any other package
[20:26] <backnforth> leftyfb,  says it's not installed
[20:26] <backnforth> I tried apt-get remove php as well
[20:26] <okdana_> what makes you think it's still installed?
[20:26] <backnforth> okdana_,  php --version says I'm using php 7.2
[20:26] <leftyfb> !info php bionic
[20:26] <okdana_> o
[20:26] <okdana_> try `dpkg -l | grep php` and see what you get
[20:26] <leftyfb> backnforth: type: which php
[20:27] <matjam> backnforth: dpkg --list | grep php
[20:27] <backnforth> okdana_,  http://dpaste.com/2JNWX4R
[20:28] <leftyfb> backnforth: sudo apt remove --purge php7.2*
[20:28] <okdana_> i think removing `php-common` will remove all the others
[20:29] <backnforth> php is gone
[20:29] <backnforth> awesome thanks
[20:29] <okdana_> rip
[20:29] <backnforth> going to php 7.1
[20:30] <leftyfb> backnforth: why?
[20:30] <backnforth> leftyfb,  because I'm worried some Drupal modules might not support php 7.2
[20:30] <leftyfb> backnforth: I wouldn't recommend downgrading things like php. There could be serious security implications
[20:31] <leftyfb> backnforth: might I suggest TRYING it before assuming it won't work
[20:31] <backnforth> php 7.1 will still be supported for another year
[20:31] <leftyfb> backnforth: why go backward based on an assumption?
[20:32] <backnforth> leftyfb,  I don't want to be tinkering
[20:32] <backnforth> and some modules haven't been updated since December of 2017
[20:32] <matjam> backnforth: php is generally compatible in a point release
[20:32] <okdana_> i would be surprised if they weren't compatible, there were not many bc-breaking changes between 7.1 and 7.2, and most of the ones there were were pretty esoteric
[20:32] <matjam> backnforth: and the latest in a point release often has important security fixes.
[20:33] <backnforth> I've seen problems with Drupal before where when I was getting bugs with php 7.2 but not php 7.1
[20:33] <leftyfb> backnforth: spin up a container and test it
[20:33] <okdana_> that said, i have used non-latest versions of php from ondrej's ppa for ages and never had issues :shrug:
[20:33] <leftyfb> backnforth: pretty sure 7.1 isn't available in the official 18.04 repo. You'll be "tinkering" to shoehorn it into the distro
[20:35] <backnforth> leftyfb,  yeah but that's a whole lot less tinkering in the future
[20:35] <backnforth> when trying to figure out how some parts don't work
[20:36] <leftyfb> backnforth: suit yourself. I don't mess around when it comes to publicly accessible websites utilizing things like php
[20:39] <Guest93655> anyone familiar with kexec-tools and setting it to true to run on shutdown? I was wanting to set it up to run memtest86 on shutdown
[20:40] <Guest93655> maybe APPEND="/usr/lib/memtest86+/memtest86+.elf"     ? does that command look right?
[20:41] <backnforth> leftyfb,  I don't know what I should do man. I think both ideas are awesome.
[20:41] <leftyfb> backnforth: I told you what to do. Spin up a container and test your drupal code with php 7.2
[20:43] <backnforth> will do
[20:44] <Jordan_U> Guest93655: Are you sure that memtest86+ will even work with Kexec? I wouldn't expect it to.
[20:44] <Guest93655> kexec i thought it just like a kernel that can run programs
[20:44] <Guest93655> kexec apparently it can i think tails has used or it experimented with it
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Guest93655: memtest86+ relies heavily on BIOS interrupts, wheras linux has native drivers for accessing hardware. I would expect linux to be able to handle being loaded via kexec much better than memtest86+.
[20:48] <Guest93655> tails is debian but i think I am going to ask in there
[20:48] <Guest93655> there is a way because they have tested it
[20:49] <Guest93655> but not a alot of documentation on it with debian or ubuntu other than what tails put out
[20:50] <Jordan_U> Guest93655: If you're not using Ubuntu, then don't ask about your problems in #ubuntu. If you want generic GNU/Linux support ask in ##linux.
[20:50] <de-facto> where can i find Xorg.log in bionic?
[20:51] <de-facto> it seems ubuntu does not have /var/log/Xorg.0.log anymore?!
[20:51] <de-facto> whats the alternative to this?
[20:52] <leftyfb> de-facto: what does "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" tell you?
[20:52] <kunji> de-facto: I think you can still create one if you need to (at least as of 16.04, I'm not sure in later yet, just started using 18.04 today).
[20:53] <kunji> de-facto: Oh, sorry, the log, not the config
[20:53] <de-facto> leftyfb, its "x11"
[20:53] <Two_Dogs> de-facto:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> locate Xorg.0.log ## does locate find it?
[20:53] <de-facto> empty response
[20:53] <de-facto> also find cant locate it under /var anywhere
[20:54] <Guest93655> Jordan_U: ding dong who said I was using debian lol I said it works in tails which is debian..
[20:54] <leftyfb> de-facto: don't look in just /var
[20:55] <Two_Dogs> leftyfb: locate came up empty
[20:55] <Guest93655> if you don't know how to do it don't led me on no rabbit trail of bullshit its a bad habit in this room and I dont even like asking questions in here
[20:55] <Freekid> @lotus  ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Guest93655: Please be respectful to the volunteers in this channel, myself included.
[20:56] <Guest93655> Jordan_U: cut the bullshit and i dont think we are going to have problems
[20:56] <Guest93655> either you know or you don't thats what i want help with
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Guest93655: Such attitude and language are not acceptable in this channel. If you continue with it, you will be removed.
[20:56] <Guest93655> here it goes
[20:57] <Guest93655> like deja-fucking vu ..same bullshit different day
[20:57] <de-facto> leftyfb, i think for some weird reason Xorg.0.log does not exist in Bionic anymore?! "find / -name '*Xorg.*.log'" comes without result
[20:57] <leftyfb> I don't know. I haven't run 18.04 much as of yet
[20:58] <de-facto> i just cant imagine it was removed without proper replacement of similar functionality. at least that woudl be really stupid...
[20:58] <kunji> de-facto: I still have the log, Ubuntu 18.04 installed today,... but I did install as 16.04 and immediately upgrade, so it could still be there from that (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> de-facto: Are you using a Wayland session or an Xorg session?
[20:59] <de-facto> Jordan_U, i think its xorg "$XDG_SESSION_TYPE == x11"
[20:59] <kunji> de-facto: I'm running the proprietary Nvidia drivers though, which may also make a difference.
[20:59] <de-facto> im on radeon
[21:00] <Two_Dogs> de-facto: looked in ~/.local/?
[21:00] <de-facto> i wanted to get rid of screen tearing, so i wanted to look at Xorg.0.log to see whats going on
[21:00] <kunji> de-facto: My Radeon machines are all still on 16.04, sorry
[21:02] <de-facto> wanted to try out something like this here: https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu/
[21:02] <de-facto> yet without a proper feedback in some kind of log files... it wont be fun i guess
[21:05] <kunji> de-facto: From what I'm reading if you're running it rootless it could be in ~/.local/share/xorg/
[21:05] <matjam> de-facto: should be "true" not "on"
[21:06] <matjam> for TearFree
[21:06] <de-facto> kunji, yeah thats an empty directory on my default setup
[21:07] <de-facto> matjam, thanks i will try that as soon as i find some Xorg logs anywhere ...
[21:12] <Two_Dogs> https://goo.gl/MXxh3x de-facto read, the log is in journalctl
[21:12] <Freekid> Hes from Russia
[21:12] <Two_Dogs> de-facto: using gdm, yes?
[21:13] <kunji> Two_Dogs: I thought it might, but I can't seem to find it in there, I only find it in /var/log/ on my systems.
[21:13] <leftyfb> Freekid: huh?
[21:13] <de-facto> oh crap, i love journalctl, yes im on gdm3 x11 radeon
[21:13] <Freekid> Anyway Jordan_U can you help me with a a bug someone here wanted the report but he seems not here now
[21:13] <Two_Dogs> kunji: command 'journalctl -b' for everything after boot
[21:14] <kunji> I have a burning hatred for journalctl....
[21:14] <anavarro> Hi there. I'm having issues while connecting my laptop to a monitor over DP - HDMI cable
[21:14] <Two_Dogs> its a log, like any other log
[21:14] <kunji> Two_Dogs: I did that, but I have no mention of X, X11, or Xorg in there at all.
[21:14] <de-facto> Two_Dogs, whats the unit name?
[21:14] <anavarro> Any idea what could be happening?
[21:15] <kunji> Two_Dogs: It's stored as binary, no?
[21:15] <Two_Dogs> kunji:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b | grep -Ei 'x11|xorg'
[21:15] <kunji> de-facto: No idea, I tried all my good ideas for unit names and they came up blank
[21:15] <de-facto> yes for me too
[21:15] <de-facto> journalctl...
[21:15] <de-facto> :(
[21:16] <Freekid> Hi may i get some help to change the wonership of a folder?
[21:16] <Freekid> and to delete it
[21:16] <kunji> Two_Dogs: It doesn't show me anything about x11, just stuff about my wireless... : kernel: wlp1s0: RX AssocResp from 88:f0:31:bc:50:ec (capab=0x111 status=0 aid=1)
[21:16] <Two_Dogs> kunji: using gdm?
[21:16] <Freekid> how can i know who owns the folder
[21:16] <de-facto> Freekid, sudo chown <user>:<group> /path/to/directory
[21:17] <kunji> Two_Dogs: Whatever the default is.
[21:17] <de-facto> ls -l /path/to/dir
[21:17] <Freekid> ls -l? okay
[21:17] <Two_Dogs> default depends on version/s
[21:18] <kunji> Two_Dogs: Hmm, yeah, on the 18.04 machine I see some things about the gdm-x-session
[21:19] <kunji> Two_Dogs: Doesn't really look like what's in the Xorg logs though
[21:20] <et_> join #maria-dev
[21:20] <Two_Dogs> kunji: i cant replicate xorg dump to journalctl, i am on sddm,
[21:21] <Bashing-om> de-facto: still present on xubuntu 18.10: " sysop@x1810:~$ ls -al /var/log/X* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33801 May 23 14:40 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:21] <Two_Dogs> archwiki says gdm sends xorg log to journactl
[21:22] <Freekid> this is it de-facto what should i do to delete all of those folders? https://malzo.com/i/2018/05/23/fmo.png
[21:22] <Freekid> i cant access them without root
[21:22] <Freekid> it is a userfolder
[21:24] <de-facto> Freekid, you can either change the owner to yourself "sudo chown -R <youruser>:<yourgroup> /path/to/dir" or you can delete them (be carefull to choose the correct path!) recursively with "sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory"
[21:24] <Freekid> Okay thank you
[21:26] <de-facto> Bashing-om, its not there on default bionic installation " ls /var/log/X*" doesnt find anything, yet i found "~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" after a reboot (i guess it was deleted before by bleachbit)
[21:26] <de-facto> so it seems its gdm3 with rootless x11 on radeon for me then
[21:28] <Freekid> So someone here was asking more about the "IOTOP" bug in ubuntuserver here it is => https://malzo.com/i/2018/05/23/fm3.png
[21:28] <Freekid> its doest work in ubuntu server 16.04lts
[21:30] <Bashing-om> de-facto: I do have 18.04 ubuntu installed, but running wayland . I know there is no Xorg.conf file for wayland .
[21:31] <yuppie> hi all, can someone help me out with a preseed install? it seems to be hanging on "creating ext2 filesystem for /boot"
[21:31] <de-facto> Bashing-om, i think so, i dont have much experience with wayland yet
[21:35] <de-facto> yuppie, ask your question with content then someone might answer you
[21:40] <kunji> de-facto: Glad you found it ^_^
[21:43] <kunji> I have an LXC container on an Arch install that uses lvm storage on an mdadm raid 1 array.  I have now installed Ubuntu on an external drive attached to this system, what is the best/easiest way to move this container to the Ubuntu install, perhaps managed by LXD?
[21:46] <jj15> Is it possible with rsync to check on the server what files have changed? So for example "if package.json has change run npm install". Or, I'm thinking some sort of event that can watch for changes to a file and run a script when it changes. Any ideas?
[21:49] <de-facto> jj15, https://linux.die.net/man/1/inotifywatch
[21:49] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know why the dock im ubuntu 7.10 shows most of my applications twice?
[21:50] <jj15> Thanks de-facto! This looks perfect.
[21:50] <kunji> jj15: You can use what de-facto sent in a script and also turn that script into a systemd service
[21:50] <de-facto> jj15, though i think node has build in support for that too somehow
[21:51] <kunji> de-facto: Maybe it does, I don't know it well
[21:54] <libben> Why do I have a could.yaml file in my netplan?
[21:55] <libben> cloud
[21:55] <libben> Have I installed the wrong iso? Ive seen cloud init beeing flashed on screen during boot also
[21:55] <libben> but I downloaded regular live-server.iso file in release
[21:56] <ca_cabot> when you email a file created in ubuntu, do the permissions and ownership info remain with the file?
[21:57] <de-facto> if you dont tar it, it will be written with the perms of your email client i guess
[21:58] <jj15> I'm using pm2 to run my node server I just noticed it can watch files for changes. Thanks guys.
[21:59] <klemax> after upgrading from 17.10 to 18.04, my wallpaper disappeared. how to get it back?
[21:59] <klemax> I dont remember its name.
[22:04] <yuppie> upon PXE boot of 16.04 desktop, i load up a preseed config here: https://dpaste.de/fwnL
[22:04] <yuppie> rebooting after successful install drops me into initramfs shell with no keyboard working
[22:05] <yuppie> im not sure if grub is getting installed properly or not...
[22:12] <yuppie> maybe i should be using kickstart instead of preseed?
[22:12] <genii> yuppie: A good reference example preseed to compare with is https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[22:14] <yuppie> im using: d-i grub-installer/bootdev string default
[22:15] <yuppie> but a grub boot screen never appears
[22:15] <yuppie> just goes purple for a bit, then drops me into an initramfs shell, which is unresponsive genii
[22:16] <yuppie> maybe i should try lilo
[22:16] <genii> yuppie: Your grub section: #grub-pc grub-pc/install_devices string /dev/sda    <---notice the #
[22:16] <yuppie> yeah so thats an old grub-pc command, not a d-i command
[22:16] <yuppie> do i need that uncommented as well?
[22:17] <genii> yuppie: If sda is the one you're actually installing to, then yes
[22:17] <yuppie> i thought it was one or the other, let me try that...
[22:22] <yuppie> genii: same thing, dumped to an initramfs shell
[22:22] <yuppie> busybox
[22:23] <yuppie> (ash)
[22:23] <yuppie> most examples that i see only seem to require: d-i grub-installer/only_debian boolean true
[22:26] <yuppie> i wonder if a grub menuentry is even being created
[22:26] <yuppie> in the ubiquity auto-installer window, i can see grub-install /dev/sda being run
[22:27] <genii> yuppie: There's only one hdd on this box?
[22:27] <yuppie> 'grub-install /dev/sda'.... 'updating grub...'
[22:27] <yuppie> then it does its other stuff, reboot
[22:28] <yuppie> then it drops me to the purple screen
[22:28] <yuppie> hangs for a bit ...
[22:28] <yuppie> then drops me to the initramfs shell again
[22:33] <jcdutton> yuppie, have you looked at grub.cfg in /boot/grub
[22:33] <jcdutton> yuppie, does it have boot entries?
[22:34] <yuppie> jcdutton: since i'm doing the initial boot install from PXE
[22:34] <yuppie> where would i look for that?
[22:34] <yuppie> or should i look there on the installed system?
[22:40] <yuppie> jcdutton: what should i be looking for in this grub menu?
[22:40] <Bunicrin> alguém do brasil?
[22:41] <yuppie> looks like --set=root
[22:44] <yuppie> jcdutton: everything looks good, im on a live CD
[22:44] <yuppie> can't tell what the issue is
[22:56] <raidghost> Why is CIFS mount on libvirt host client a pain to get working smoothly?
[23:00] <nacc> raidghost: 'libvirt host client' ?
[23:08] <eelstrebor> what video capture devices are known to work on ubuntu 16.04.4?
[23:11] <tomreyn> those you have available with an signal input on them
[23:12]  * tomreyn knows nothing about video recording but can still provide generic answers to generic questions ;-)
[23:13] <Two_Dogs> eelstrebor: just about any web-cam should work
[23:14] <Two_Dogs> eelstrebor: your graphics card along with some recorder app
[23:14] <raidghost> nacc: Running ubuntu on a ubuntu-server machine
[23:15] <raidghost> cifs mounted my raid. but for some weird reason its slow as a turtle.
[23:16] <nacc> raidghost: so you are cifs mounting a host's disk into a VM?
[23:17] <kunji> Two_Dogs: He could be asking which video capture cards have working driver support?
[23:18] <Two_Dogs> kunji: yeah, he dont seem keen on clarifying
[23:24] <eelstrebor> Two_Dogs, actually, i'm trying to figure out how to connect a roku to my PC so that I don't have to go buy another TV
[23:26] <Two_Dogs> eelstrebor: roku allows device to talk to a pc how?
[23:26] <Two_Dogs> eelstrebor: roku as server?
[23:27] <Two_Dogs> i kodi
[23:33] <yuppie> yeah so this whole preseed thing isn't working out too well
[23:34] <yuppie> just reboots into initramfs
[23:34] <yuppie> then i start to uncover there are a bunch of EFI commands for it...
[23:34] <yuppie> not sure what to believe
[23:34] <yuppie> not very well documented
[23:36] <yuppie> now it dropped me into a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:36] <nacc> yuppie: preseed is just a format for telling ubuntu what to install
[23:37] <nacc> yuppie: it's not anything about how to boot your system or otherwise
[23:37] <yuppie> nacc: i understand that
[23:37] <yuppie> im using preseed to automate the installation process
[23:37] <yuppie> however, when i create an LVM using preseed, it seems GRUB isn't being installed correctly
[23:37] <yuppie> im not sure how to find out why
[23:40] <yuppie> nacc: i found these options: https://dpaste.de/0CVc
[23:41] <yuppie> but uncommenting them didn't help me
[23:41] <nacc> yuppie: are you using EFI?
[23:41] <yuppie> yes
[23:41] <yuppie> but i dont need to
[23:41] <yuppie> kinda just want to get to the login screen
[23:42] <yuppie> install completes successfully, so im thinking my issue is with grub
[23:42] <nacc> yuppie: you should do a manual install, then run `debconf-get-selections` afte ryou install
[23:42] <yuppie> i just need to find the right set of grub options
[23:42] <nacc> yuppie: then see what it tells you you selected
[23:42] <nacc> yuppie: possibly you aren't use the efi installer image?
[23:42] <nacc> yuppie: so you might have installed grub instead of grub-efi or whatever
[23:43] <yuppie> can you point me to the efi installer image?
[23:43] <yuppie> i didnt know they were different for desktop
[23:44] <mattzab> Hello, I'm trying to reauthor a live disc using Cubic. First, can this be done with the 64Mb mini.iso image?
[23:44] <nacc> yuppie: i'm not 100% if that's true, just a thought i had
[23:44] <yuppie> yeah i dont think its true
[23:45] <nacc> yuppie: and to be sure, you're using the amd64 iso, etc?
[23:45] <yuppie> yes
[23:45] <yuppie> im going to try the manual install and then the get selections command
[23:46] <mattzab> I'm using the amd64 iso... :)
[23:46] <nacc> yuppie: yeah, that's what i'd start with (make sure it does install fine manually using that image)
[23:46] <nacc> yuppie: just don't pass a preseed, and it should boot into the installer and you can do it manually
[23:47] <mattzab> I'm having trouble with getting Cubic to work. Is this the right place to ask? I got crickets on AskUbuntu.com
[23:48] <nacc> mattzab: is it an ubuntu package?
[23:48] <yuppie> nacc: i understand that, but the whole point is to automate as much as possible, i'll eventually install to hundreds of machines this way
[23:48] <yuppie> so i need preseed to work properly eventually
[23:48] <nacc> yuppie: right, but it doens't make sense tojump to that before you have a working install :)
[23:48] <mattzab> nacc: yes it is an Ubuntu package. (It might be a PPA now that I think of it)
[23:49] <nacc> mattzab: if it's a ppa, then you need to consult the ppa owner for support
[23:49] <kunji> Never heard of cubic, can you give us a link to a project page or something so I can see what it is exactly?
[23:49] <mattzab> nacc: would you mind scanning my AskUbuntu question right quick? I'm not sure if it's a problem with the software or the OS... https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038558/how-can-i-select-an-iso-file-to-use-with-cubic
[23:52] <kunji> mattzab: I don't think I would recommend using synaptic anymore...
[23:53] <nacc> mattzab: i've never used cubic, sorry
[23:53] <kunji> Definitely is from a ppa https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[23:53] <mattzab> kunji: no more synaptic? What should I use instead, now?
[23:54] <lapaga> synaptic is fine
[23:55] <nacc> mattzab: i think you should contact https://launchpad.net/~cubic-dev
[23:55] <mattzab> Right, from ppa. But, in selecting a file, doesn't every program typically just use the default file manager to select a file? ie. upload an image through browser, select iso file for cubic, etc.
[23:55] <mattzab> https://i.stack.imgur.com/1wL3g.png
[23:55] <kunji> lapaga: They've renovated?
[23:55] <nacc> mattzab: not necessarily
[23:55] <mattzab> nacc: I'll do that. Thanks.
[23:56] <nacc> mattzab: you *might* also try starting it from the terminal, and then seeing if an error is shown
[23:56] <kunji> mattzab: Yeah, I think so.. could be that it then tries to mount the iso and failed, I'm not sure what the default support for a loopback iso9660 is, if that has changed or not...
[23:58] <mattzab> kunji: it doesn't look like it's trying to do anything. I double click the iso, and nothing happens. The file selection menu remains as if I've not selected anything.
[23:58] <mattzab> I'll check out terminal, and I'll also swap out the default file manager.
[23:59] <kunji> mattzab: I've never actually tried using anything other than nautilus... so maybe that does affect that.