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ubptgbot<alan_morford> Why hello!  Dug the N5 out to update it and was surprised it's been so long since the last OTA. I assume it's still being developed for, yes? Love UT and want it to continue!00:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes00:07
ubptgbotwbreadenmadden was added by: wbreadenmadden00:11
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @alan_morford, uh... is this a real question?00:21
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> you are in the Ubuntu Touch telegram supergroup.  Did you know that?00:22
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> I recommend the News Channel to stay up to date on UT: https://t.me/ubports_news00:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wayneoutthere, no need for such a response. asking if a device is still supported is a perfectly fine question00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> oh00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> device...sorry, my bad.00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> I read it as 'is ubuntu touch still being developed' :)00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> not enough sleep00:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> but either way, the tone of your replies is a bit condescending :)00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> bite me!00:23
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> wait! violation00:23
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> @wayneoutthere, To be fair, an awful lot of people think that Ubuntu Touch is completely dead lol00:24
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> that's a good point...00:24
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> marketing fail!00:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> a lot of people think the same is true of Indian Motorcycles00:24
ubptgbot<alan_morford> Yikes. Thanks for the save, Rodney. Do I dare ask what's proposed in OTA 4 or should I just tuck tail and run now?00:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @alan_morford, It'll be based on 16.04 and have several new features!00:28
ubptgbot<alan_morford> @UniversalSuperBox, And the current lineup of devices will be supported?00:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep!00:28
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @vanyasem, gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Dash favorite-scopes00:28
ubptgbot<alan_morford> @UniversalSuperBox, That's great. How goes the builds?00:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta, nope00:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta, `restart unity8-dash`00:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> buuuuuut i answered that days ago00:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @alan_morford, Well, here are the regressions we know about so far: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7 … And here are the new features: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/800:29
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ah, that was the old way then?00:29
ubptgbot<alan_morford> @UniversalSuperBox, Looks like I have some reading to do. Much thanks.00:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta, no, that resets the setting back to stock. it doesn't restart the dash app that displays scopes00:29
ubptgbot<alan_morford> @wayneoutthere, Have a drink, Sir! It's 5 o'clock somewhere.00:30
ubptgbot<mateosalta> cool, I remember I had a certain scope crashing on it being favorite, and that one helped00:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'm pretty sure that somewhere is where wayne is00:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> or well, it's 5:30 there00:30
ubptgbot<mateosalta> 7 here :)00:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta, yeah, removing it from favorites would make it not be queried, although it shouldn't have been anyway unless you switched to it specifically00:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Nope00:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> bshah is in a time zone that's 30 minutes off gmt, for example00:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So it could be 5 o'clock somewhere00:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, wayne.00:32
ubptgbot<mateosalta> hm, didn't favorite have some kind of preload?00:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> don't think so00:32
ubptgbot<mateosalta> oh, I remember it was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/138969800:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1511063 in click-reviewers-tools (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1389698 Scopes freeze after few times slide on Bq 4.5" [High,Fix released]00:36
ubptgbot<mateosalta> where you installed a scope, favorite it - then the scope is forcfully removed00:36
ubptgbot<mateosalta> [Edit] where you ran  a scope, favorite it - then the scope is forcfully removed00:36
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @alan_morford, it was actually 5 oclock when you sent that here :)01:28
ubptgbot<Strangerer> How can I remove side app launcher from Ubuntu touch01:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You can't.01:29
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/r0ktEhdq.mp401:30
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> what is this??? an iphone?01:30
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> *hides*01:30
ubptgbot<Strangerer> Or plz make it appealing01:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You can add and remove apps from it, I suppose01:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But otherwise there's no need to use it. Just swipe out further to go back to the scopes.01:34
ubptgbot<Strangerer> Do some motion animations to it. It looks very dull01:35
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Aravind, I'm not entirely convinced you're not just trying to troll us. I'm not sure what you want in this case.01:35
ubptgbot<Strangerer> If a OS wants more users it needs more customisation and and more visually appealing01:37
ubptgbot<amolith> @wayneoutthere, 🤣🤣🤣01:45
ubptgbot<amolith> @Strangerer, Many of us find UT immensely more visually appealing than Android or even iOS.01:47
ubptgbot<amolith> @Strangerer, I do agree that it needs more customisation options but those will come with time01:48
ubptgbot<amolith> Right now, upgrading to 16.04 is UBports' priority, right @UniversalSuperBox?01:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes01:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> of all the things to complain about, customizing the launcher panel really should be extremely low on that list01:56
ubptgbot<mateosalta> quick lists would be a cool thing, might be underapriciated on the phone though02:11
ubptgbot<mateosalta> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/oO5M4Wph.png02:14
ubptgbotCelio_Filho was added by: Celio_Filho04:14
ubptgbot<amolith> @mateosalta, I have to say I love that background. I'm going through and watching all of them again right now04:20
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @dohbee, Well there are people who buy stuff because it looks pretty. I know! Lets make each button turn into an animal when you touch it! Yeah!!04:38
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Water ripple effect always impresses the ladies04:39
ubptgbot<amolith> @mateosalta, What do you mean by this?04:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wayneoutthere, That's great. Everyone does. However, no product on earth (or in the universe) is capable of satisfying the personal whims of 100% of all sentient beings therein. It is an impossible task.05:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> also there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from customizing the system to their whim's content if they so desire. it is all open source after all. feel free to take it, change it, and make your own custom phone image if you deem it necessary.05:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> or use plasma mobile or something else instead. that's why there are options. we don't need to have 100% of the market share to achieve 100% of our goals in making something. and if your goal is 100% market share, you're doing it wrong.05:04
ubptgbot<Christopher> @UniversalSuperBox thanks for the show-notes / summary info I always enjoy reading those05:29
ubptgbot<Christopher> the update to xenial sounds awesome and so does potential OP5 support05:35
ubptgbot<Christopher> I'm using a nexus 5 still05:35
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @mateosalta, Will do,  thanks05:47
ubptgbotsunil kumar was added by: sunil kumar06:29
ubptgbot<sunil kumar> hi, how to install ubuntu touch on htc jetstream tablet? any idea?06:30
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @sunil kumar, Port halium then install ut rootfs06:32
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/06:32
ubptgbot<sunil kumar> @VeryOriginalUsername, thank you...let me check06:35
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @VeryOriginalUsername, You make it sound too easy06:41
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> You know that's basically it xd06:41
ubptgbot<sunil kumar> @vanyasem, it s not easy😇😇😇😇06:43
ubptgbot<sunil kumar> and  i can't06:43
ubptgbot<sunil kumar> this tab make me too much prblm.so i think sell this and buy new one 😡😡😡😡06:45
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> I looked it up and it's a pretty old device07:28
ubptgbotLorenzoTecchio was added by: LorenzoTecchio08:22
ubptgbot<LorenzoTecchio> When does Unity usb port official arrive? I request the version out of beta?08:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @LorenzoTecchio, Can you explain a little more please to make this question clearer? Anyway welcome 😎08:28
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @LorenzoTecchio, Also check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome08:29
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> It is so unclear I guess Lorenzo is asking about some other Unity.08:36
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Lorenzo, we have an Italian group. You are welcome to ask questions there and they can bring them to this group08:38
ubptgbot<sap_nocops> I think by "usb port" he is meaning ubports08:38
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Ahah. Spellcheck 😎08:38
ubptgbot<Stereofont> For 16.04, a release candidate channel soon. If there are no surprises, a stable release end of June 201808:39
ubptgbot<Stereofont> btw there are always surprises 😂08:40
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> ...unless he means Unity8. That is nowhere near release candidate.08:42
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ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Status of Anbox … ============= … I know it is not ready yet, but I tried out Anbox on my Pro 5 again. Unfortunately it still breaks the SIM discovery, but I was able to install quite a few apps via apk. Most of them start, and pretty rapidly too, but some say they "...don't work without the Google Play services, which are not s09:33
ubptgbotupported on this unit" while others start fine but can't integrate properly with e.g. bluetooth. None of the Android apps or settings show an OSK, but input is possible via an external BT keyboard. … It is nice to see that it kind of works, although not all the way. But of course no mobile is a show stopper. Does anybody know how to uninstall Anbox09:33
ubptgbot? Or do I need to reflash?09:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Installing apks which are free from Google Play Services seems to be a fundamental requirement for Anbox.09:36
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @TartanSpartan, Yeah, that sounds reasonable at this stage.09:38
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Anbox seems a bit difficult to get rid of though. I have tried sudo apt remove as well as sudo apt purge. It breaks the Anbox install, but all the apps are still there and won't launch.09:41
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> @TomasOqvist, you meam where are the apps still? in the UT scope?09:52
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Yup, and mobile still not working after a reboot09:54
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> but if you have launchers in the scope than you need to remove them manually09:55
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> they are just *.desktop launcher files09:55
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> maybe in your home09:55
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> ~/.local/share/applications/09:55
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> it's like if you install gimp and then remove it, you will still have all the project files on your disk09:56
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @KrisJacewicz, Yes, a lot of anbox stuff there. But it still doesn't explain why mobile is still broken.10:05
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> i can only guess because you used apt-get as sudo on a rootfs10:06
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> perhaps something in the uninstall trigger scripts of anbox screwed your system10:06
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> or maybe some autoremove/autoclean stuff10:07
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> maybe you removed more than you should10:07
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> I know there used to be an issue with mobile and anbox before, but I don't think it is apt-get as such.10:07
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> just guesses10:07
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Don't the anbox images also a modified kernel / boot image? That could also be related.10:07
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> [Edit] Don't the anbox images also use a modified kernel / boot image? That could also be related.10:07
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Yes, something like that. So, question is how to revert to the old install without losing data and settings?10:09
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Maybe I can just fastboot flash the original dev image?10:11
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ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> What's up with the latest version of ubports-installer? I used to flash my Pro 5 several times a day a couple of months ago. Now it never finishes flashing...10:34
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @TomasOqvist, Maybe that is the clue. Repeated use does seem to associate with failure10:41
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> I would say it is more associated with testing new things10:42
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> The installer used to work like a charm for me, but not any more 😟10:43
ubptgbot<vanyasem> file a bug report?10:43
ubptgbot<K31j0> I don't know if sole anbox android images have some kernel magic, but host's kernel has to have something enabled for anbox to work10:46
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> (Photo, 800x631) https://irc.ubports.com/kxu7aBvJ.png10:47
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> I will try a bit more, now with the "wipe" option. If it is not finished after lunch, I will have to assume something is not working as is should...10:47
ubptgbot<Strangerer> How developers does UT has10:49
ubptgbot<advocatux> @TomasOqvist, The install process shouldn't last more than 20 minutes10:56
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> It used to finish in a couple of heartbeats on my Pro 5.10:57
ubptgbot<advocatux> Right, I mean the duration of the whole install process10:59
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Yep, something is definitely wrong10:59
ubptgbot<advocatux> Come to the Install group11:00
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Ok, link pls11:01
ubptgbot<advocatux> I've send you11:01
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] I've send it to you11:01
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @advocatux, Telegram PM you mean? Haven't got anything from you.11:02
ubptgbot<advocatux> I pinged you but I think you got it now11:03
ubptgbot<Flohack> @TomasOqvist, Plz downgrade to the previous version .12 - the current one seems to be a bit broken11:26
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Flohack thank you, good to know11:30
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @Flohack, Thanks Flo, I am back in business with version 0.1.12-beta. Up and running with mobile working again 🙂11:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> cool11:33
ubptgbot<Flohack> We should lock the version I know11:33
ubptgbot<advocatux> I was going to ask that11:33
ubptgbot<Flohack> Canb you file an issue on the installer repo?11:33
ubptgbot<advocatux> Sure11:33
ubptgbot<padraic7a> @TomasOqvist, Oh wow, last time I looked at Anbox you couldn't install anything. So a lot has changed. … How do you install other apps?11:36
ubptgbot<K31j0> maybe we can package Anbox images with microG11:37
ubptgbot<K31j0> that could solve the google services issue11:38
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @padraic7a, [Edit] Copy the apk to /home/phablet/anbox-data/data … Login to android container on your phone: … lxc-console -ndefault -P /home/phablet/anbox-data/containers -t0 … cd into data/ then and use pm install [appname].apk11:38
ubptgbot<padraic7a> @TomasOqvist, Nice one, thank you11:38
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Christopher, That was all @exar_kun11:38
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @padraic7a, Pls pick up the discussion in this thread: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/914/installing-additional-android-app-s-in-anbox-on-ubuntu-touch/411:39
ubptgbot<padraic7a> @TomasOqvist, Have you tried installing fdroid?11:39
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @padraic7a, No11:39
ubptgbot<padraic7a> @TomasOqvist, Will do.11:40
ubptgbotkevin_m02 was added by: kevin_m0212:17
ubptgbot<exar_kun> @UniversalSuperBox, I think it was @Stereofont taking the notes live. Good teamwork!12:50
ubptgbotTtx Tea was added by: Ttx Tea13:00
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @exar_kun, and our teams are always recruiting new helpers so don't hesitate to PM us if you want to contribute to UBports!13:07
ubptgbotNageenchand was added by: Nageenchand14:46
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @kevin_m02, Ttx & @Nageenchand !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.14:48
ubptgbot<Nageenchand> Hi, i want to install ubuntu touch in my device . Its rooted and have custom recovery but not in the listed supported devices , is there any way?14:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> you would have to create a port for the device14:50
ubptgbot<Nageenchand> thanks.. i am reading about it... sorry for asking before searching about porting info..14:56
ubptgbot<Javacookies> no scaling on external displays, is that a known issue in xenial? or is it in low priority?15:13
ubptgbotSayanUx was added by: SayanUx15:41
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Telegram is dying a lot lately15:43
ubptgbot<Flohack> Yes I see it myself just now. Maybe I got some time to look into15:56
ubptgbot<mymike00> I don't think it's the ut app, also the website and desktop application died for me a while ago. the website gave error 500...15:57
ubptgbot<K31j0> server-side problems15:58
ubptgbot<K31j0> experienced that too15:58
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Flohack, Is the general service failing not the app16:00
ubptgbotSquid_Telega was added by: Squid_Telega16:01
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Squid_Telega, Hi Squid, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started16:02
ubptgbotazhirov1991 was added by: azhirov199117:44
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @malditobastardo, weren't we all going to mass exodus to Matrix? ;)18:00
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> *hides*18:01
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @wayneoutthere, Haga18:02
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @wayneoutthere, [Edit] Haha18:02
thepeterSo I've managed to get my vegetahd working with screen which just arrived but mdt won't recognize phablet and it has some kind of problem with adb versions any advices how to swiftly make a backup?18:04
gehidore@UniversalSuperBox I should have a second bullhead to dedicate I'm the next two weeks then I'll play around. in the mean time why are we rushing to stop lightdm when the symlink could be removed before booting the image?18:06
thepeterif I'll just simply pull /home/phablet over adb will it copy all contacts db and all sms db?18:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> gehidore, Symlinking isn't how upstart works18:18
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @wayneoutthere, I would enjoy that personally18:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> @thepeter, yes, it should18:28
thepeter<dohbee> only that after running it this way it falls on .local/share/html5.a-european-guy/app/SingletonSocket since it is not a file ...18:34
thepetercan I somehow specify on pull to tak regular files and folders only?18:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't know about adb. if you've enabled ssh, you can just rsync though i guess instead18:36
thepeteruhm I haven't went there just yet ... tryed the most straight forward path first18:37
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @thepeter ssh is really the most solemnly straightforward way.18:43
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @thepeter ssh is really the most  straightforward way.18:43
thepeter<ruedigerkupper> okay well I am just setting it up, but it looks like AP would not let me use ssh port on the network18:47
thepetersince computer is on different subnet ... so not that straightforward for my case18:49
thepeterso will try to stick with adb and connection over USB ...18:51
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Guest85879@UniversalSuperBox that's what I get for reading so fast I didn't notice it was just "sudo stop" not "sudo systemctl stop"20:04
Guest85879wtf freenode why you do this20:04
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ubptgbotremi was added by: remi20:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> @remi, Hi remi, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome20:12
ubptgboteliobastias was added by: eliobastias20:22
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome back @eliobastias !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome21:09

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