 Why hello!  Dug the N5 out to update it and was surprised it's been so long since the last OTA. I assume it's still being developed for, yes? Love UT and want it to continue!
 yes
[00:11] <ubptgbot> wbreadenmadden was added by: wbreadenmadden
 @alan_morford, uh... is this a real question?
 you are in the Ubuntu Touch telegram supergroup.  Did you know that?
 I recommend the News Channel to stay up to date on UT: https://t.me/ubports_news
 @wayneoutthere, no need for such a response. asking if a device is still supported is a perfectly fine question
 oh
 device...sorry, my bad.
 I read it as 'is ubuntu touch still being developed' :)
 not enough sleep
 but either way, the tone of your replies is a bit condescending :)
 bite me!
 wait! violation
 @wayneoutthere, To be fair, an awful lot of people think that Ubuntu Touch is completely dead lol
 that's a good point...
 marketing fail!
 a lot of people think the same is true of Indian Motorcycles
 Yikes. Thanks for the save, Rodney. Do I dare ask what's proposed in OTA 4 or should I just tuck tail and run now?
 @alan_morford, It'll be based on 16.04 and have several new features!
 @UniversalSuperBox, And the current lineup of devices will be supported?
 Yep!
 @vanyasem, gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Dash favorite-scopes
 @UniversalSuperBox, That's great. How goes the builds?
 @mateosalta, nope
 @mateosalta, `restart unity8-dash`
 buuuuuut i answered that days ago
 @alan_morford, Well, here are the regressions we know about so far: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7 … And here are the new features: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/8
 ah, that was the old way then?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Looks like I have some reading to do. Much thanks.
 @mateosalta, no, that resets the setting back to stock. it doesn't restart the dash app that displays scopes
 @wayneoutthere, Have a drink, Sir! It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
 cool, I remember I had a certain scope crashing on it being favorite, and that one helped
 i'm pretty sure that somewhere is where wayne is
 or well, it's 5:30 there
 7 here :)
 @mateosalta, yeah, removing it from favorites would make it not be queried, although it shouldn't have been anyway unless you switched to it specifically
 @dohbee, Nope
 bshah is in a time zone that's 30 minutes off gmt, for example
 So it could be 5 o'clock somewhere
 @UniversalSuperBox, wayne.
 hm, didn't favorite have some kind of preload?
 don't think so
 oh, I remember it was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1389698
 where you installed a scope, favorite it - then the scope is forcfully removed
 [Edit] where you ran  a scope, favorite it - then the scope is forcfully removed
 @alan_morford, it was actually 5 oclock when you sent that here :)
 How can I remove side app launcher from Ubuntu touch
 You can't.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/r0ktEhdq.mp4
 what is this??? an iphone?
 *hides*
 Or plz make it appealing
 You can add and remove apps from it, I suppose
 But otherwise there's no need to use it. Just swipe out further to go back to the scopes.
 Do some motion animations to it. It looks very dull
 Aravind, I'm not entirely convinced you're not just trying to troll us. I'm not sure what you want in this case.
 If a OS wants more users it needs more customisation and and more visually appealing
 @wayneoutthere, 🤣🤣🤣
 @Strangerer, Many of us find UT immensely more visually appealing than Android or even iOS.
 @Strangerer, I do agree that it needs more customisation options but those will come with time
 Right now, upgrading to 16.04 is UBports' priority, right @UniversalSuperBox?
 Yes
 of all the things to complain about, customizing the launcher panel really should be extremely low on that list
 quick lists would be a cool thing, might be underapriciated on the phone though
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/oO5M4Wph.png
[04:14] <ubptgbot> Celio_Filho was added by: Celio_Filho
 @mateosalta, I have to say I love that background. I'm going through and watching all of them again right now
 @dohbee, Well there are people who buy stuff because it looks pretty. I know! Lets make each button turn into an animal when you touch it! Yeah!!
 Water ripple effect always impresses the ladies
 @mateosalta, What do you mean by this?
 @wayneoutthere, That's great. Everyone does. However, no product on earth (or in the universe) is capable of satisfying the personal whims of 100% of all sentient beings therein. It is an impossible task.
 also there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from customizing the system to their whim's content if they so desire. it is all open source after all. feel free to take it, change it, and make your own custom phone image if you deem it necessary.
 or use plasma mobile or something else instead. that's why there are options. we don't need to have 100% of the market share to achieve 100% of our goals in making something. and if your goal is 100% market share, you're doing it wrong.
 @UniversalSuperBox thanks for the show-notes / summary info I always enjoy reading those
 the update to xenial sounds awesome and so does potential OP5 support
 I'm using a nexus 5 still
 @mateosalta, Will do,  thanks
[06:29] <ubptgbot> sunil kumar was added by: sunil kumar
[06:30] <ubptgbot> <sunil kumar> hi, how to install ubuntu touch on htc jetstream tablet? any idea?
 @sunil kumar, Port halium then install ut rootfs
 http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/
[06:35] <ubptgbot> <sunil kumar> @VeryOriginalUsername, thank you...let me check
 @VeryOriginalUsername, You make it sound too easy
 You know that's basically it xd
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <sunil kumar> @vanyasem, it s not easy😇😇😇😇
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <sunil kumar> and  i can't
[06:45] <ubptgbot> <sunil kumar> this tab make me too much prblm.so i think sell this and buy new one 😡😡😡😡
 I looked it up and it's a pretty old device
[08:22] <ubptgbot> LorenzoTecchio was added by: LorenzoTecchio
 When does Unity usb port official arrive? I request the version out of beta?
 @LorenzoTecchio, Can you explain a little more please to make this question clearer? Anyway welcome 😎
 @LorenzoTecchio, Also check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 It is so unclear I guess Lorenzo is asking about some other Unity.
 Lorenzo, we have an Italian group. You are welcome to ask questions there and they can bring them to this group
 I think by "usb port" he is meaning ubports
 Ahah. Spellcheck 😎
 For 16.04, a release candidate channel soon. If there are no surprises, a stable release end of June 2018
 btw there are always surprises 😂
 ...unless he means Unity8. That is nowhere near release candidate.
 Status of Anbox … [09:33] <ubptgbot> upported on this unit" while others start fine but can't integrate properly with e.g. bluetooth. None of the Android apps or settings show an OSK, but input is possible via an external BT keyboard. … It is nice to see that it kind of works, although not all the way. But of course no mobile is a show stopper. Does anybody know how to uninstall Anbox
[09:33] <ubptgbot> ? Or do I need to reflash?
 Installing apks which are free from Google Play Services seems to be a fundamental requirement for Anbox.
 @TartanSpartan, Yeah, that sounds reasonable at this stage.
 Anbox seems a bit difficult to get rid of though. I have tried sudo apt remove as well as sudo apt purge. It breaks the Anbox install, but all the apps are still there and won't launch.
 @TomasOqvist, you meam where are the apps still? in the UT scope?
 Yup, and mobile still not working after a reboot
 but if you have launchers in the scope than you need to remove them manually
 they are just *.desktop launcher files
 maybe in your home
 ~/.local/share/applications/
 it's like if you install gimp and then remove it, you will still have all the project files on your disk
 @KrisJacewicz, Yes, a lot of anbox stuff there. But it still doesn't explain why mobile is still broken.
 i can only guess because you used apt-get as sudo on a rootfs
 perhaps something in the uninstall trigger scripts of anbox screwed your system
 or maybe some autoremove/autoclean stuff
 maybe you removed more than you should
 I know there used to be an issue with mobile and anbox before, but I don't think it is apt-get as such.
 just guesses
 Don't the anbox images also a modified kernel / boot image? That could also be related.
 [Edit] Don't the anbox images also use a modified kernel / boot image? That could also be related.
 Yes, something like that. So, question is how to revert to the old install without losing data and settings?
 Maybe I can just fastboot flash the original dev image?
 What's up with the latest version of ubports-installer? I used to flash my Pro 5 several times a day a couple of months ago. Now it never finishes flashing...
 @TomasOqvist, Maybe that is the clue. Repeated use does seem to associate with failure
 I would say it is more associated with testing new things
 The installer used to work like a charm for me, but not any more 😟
 file a bug report?
 I don't know if sole anbox android images have some kernel magic, but host's kernel has to have something enabled for anbox to work
 (Photo, 800x631) https://irc.ubports.com/kxu7aBvJ.png
 I will try a bit more, now with the "wipe" option. If it is not finished after lunch, I will have to assume something is not working as is should...
 How developers does UT has
 @TomasOqvist, The install process shouldn't last more than 20 minutes
 It used to finish in a couple of heartbeats on my Pro 5.
 Right, I mean the duration of the whole install process
 Yep, something is definitely wrong
 Come to the Install group
 Ok, link pls
 I've send you
 [Edit] I've send it to you
 @advocatux, Telegram PM you mean? Haven't got anything from you.
 I pinged you but I think you got it now
 @TomasOqvist, Plz downgrade to the previous version .12 - the current one seems to be a bit broken
 @Flohack thank you, good to know
 @Flohack, Thanks Flo, I am back in business with version 0.1.12-beta. Up and running with mobile working again 🙂
 cool
 We should lock the version I know
 I was going to ask that
 Canb you file an issue on the installer repo?
 Sure
 @TomasOqvist, Oh wow, last time I looked at Anbox you couldn't install anything. So a lot has changed. … How do you install other apps?
 maybe we can package Anbox images with microG
 that could solve the google services issue
 @padraic7a, [Edit] Copy the apk to /home/phablet/anbox-data/data … Login to android container on your phone: … lxc-console -ndefault -P /home/phablet/anbox-data/containers -t0 … cd into data/ then and use pm install [appname].apk
 @TomasOqvist, Nice one, thank you
 @Christopher, That was all @exar_kun
 @padraic7a, Pls pick up the discussion in this thread: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/914/installing-additional-android-app-s-in-anbox-on-ubuntu-touch/4
 @TomasOqvist, Have you tried installing fdroid?
 @padraic7a, No
 @TomasOqvist, Will do.
[12:17] <ubptgbot> kevin_m02 was added by: kevin_m02
 @UniversalSuperBox, I think it was @Stereofont taking the notes live. Good teamwork!
[13:00] <ubptgbot> Ttx Tea was added by: Ttx Tea
 @exar_kun, and our teams are always recruiting new helpers so don't hesitate to PM us if you want to contribute to UBports!
[14:46] <ubptgbot> Nageenchand was added by: Nageenchand
 Welcome @kevin_m02, Ttx & @Nageenchand !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 Hi, i want to install ubuntu touch in my device . Its rooted and have custom recovery but not in the listed supported devices , is there any way?
 you would have to create a port for the device
 thanks.. i am reading about it... sorry for asking before searching about porting info..
 no scaling on external displays, is that a known issue in xenial? or is it in low priority?
[15:41] <ubptgbot> SayanUx was added by: SayanUx
 Telegram is dying a lot lately
 Yes I see it myself just now. Maybe I got some time to look into
 I don't think it's the ut app, also the website and desktop application died for me a while ago. the website gave error 500...
 server-side problems
 experienced that too
 @Flohack, Is the general service failing not the app
[16:01] <ubptgbot> Squid_Telega was added by: Squid_Telega
 @Squid_Telega, Hi Squid, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[17:44] <ubptgbot> azhirov1991 was added by: azhirov1991
 @malditobastardo, weren't we all going to mass exodus to Matrix? ;)
 *hides*
 @wayneoutthere, Haga
 @wayneoutthere, [Edit] Haha
[18:04] <thepeter> So I've managed to get my vegetahd working with screen which just arrived but mdt won't recognize phablet and it has some kind of problem with adb versions any advices how to swiftly make a backup?
[18:06] <gehidore> @UniversalSuperBox I should have a second bullhead to dedicate I'm the next two weeks then I'll play around. in the mean time why are we rushing to stop lightdm when the symlink could be removed before booting the image?
[18:17] <thepeter> if I'll just simply pull /home/phablet over adb will it copy all contacts db and all sms db?
 gehidore, Symlinking isn't how upstart works
 @wayneoutthere, I would enjoy that personally
 @thepeter, yes, it should
 only that after running it this way it falls on .local/share/html5.a-european-guy/app/SingletonSocket since it is not a file ...
[18:35] <thepeter> can I somehow specify on pull to tak regular files and folders only?
 i don't know about adb. if you've enabled ssh, you can just rsync though i guess instead
[18:37] <thepeter> uhm I haven't went there just yet ... tryed the most straight forward path first
 @thepeter ssh is really the most solemnly straightforward way.
 @thepeter ssh is really the most  straightforward way.
 okay well I am just setting it up, but it looks like AP would not let me use ssh port on the network
[18:49] <thepeter> since computer is on different subnet ... so not that straightforward for my case
[18:51] <thepeter> so will try to stick with adb and connection over USB ...
[20:04] <Guest85879> @UniversalSuperBox that's what I get for reading so fast I didn't notice it was just "sudo stop" not "sudo systemctl stop"
[20:04] <Guest85879> wtf freenode why you do this
[20:10] <ubptgbot> remi was added by: remi
 @remi, Hi remi, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[20:22] <ubptgbot> eliobastias was added by: eliobastias
 Welcome back @eliobastias !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome