[04:59] <kopito> guys, have anyone had problem with ktorrent and magnet links? For some reason it doesn't want to start download them
[05:00] <kopito> I am on kubuntu 18.04
[05:00] <kopito> I couldn't find the log file for ktorrent  as well
[05:24] <denza242> would it be possible to install plasma-browser-integration in KDE 5.12
[05:25] <denza242> or do I need 5.13
[05:25] <denza242> and if so, will I be able to use 5.13 in 17.10
[05:25] <denza242> or would I have to upgrade to 18.04 lts
[11:16] <pan_> Hey! Does anybody know a good QT based GUI for syncthing?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:58] <pan_> BluesKaj: Howdy!
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hi pan_
[15:42] <komuaomua> hello
[15:42] <komuaomua> are you all bots?
[15:46] <rishi_> Not a bot
[16:02] <pan_> i'm a bot!
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !bot
[16:14] <SzykCech> !botclone
[16:54] <vboxler> test
[18:12] <kdeuser> Hi. I have a rather fundamental question. How healthy is the Kubuntu developer community at the moment? I'm asking because of the continued estranging between Canonical and the Kubuntu community, the first KDE Plasma 5 releases that were quite buggy and at some laterp point rumors that there might not be enough manpower to put together a release wi
[18:12] <kdeuser> thin the Ubuntu release cycle.
[18:13] <kdeuser> Now that KDE Plasma 5 can be considered very stable, 18.04 might be a great release. But I'm wondering how healthy is the developer comunity with regards to maintaining it?
[18:16] <pan_> Thanks for your thoughts kdeuser! Well, the rift between Jonathan Ridell and Canonical aside, the early releses of Plasma 5 were an work in progress no matter on which distribution. As with every project that plays the long game, it has continually improved and is sure to continue doing so.
[18:19] <mparillo> kdeuser: I agree. Both that rift and the early releases of Plasma 5 are becoming distant history. From my perspective doing pre-release testing, documentation, and social messaging, the Kubuntu developer community, which is most crucially packaging, has not been this healthy in years. Of course, it is smaller than we would all wish, and one (and certainly two) untimely departures would really hurt, but that is the case for more
[18:19] <mparillo> distros than you might guess.
[18:21] <pan_> Especially the documentation part would be a worthy goal.
[18:23] <pan_> The KDE community as a whole would greatly profit from a easily accessible and detailed dokumentation of plasma 5.12 since a large user base will be on it for the longest time. Also, it will be a good resource to send new users to.
[18:25] <kdeuser> Ok, thanks. Is there still any company-backed developers ont he Kubuntu team? After Canonical stopped sponoring Kubuntu, I read that Blue Systems stepped in, but I don't see any mentioning of them on the website anymore. I'll also provide some more background on my question:
[18:30] <mparillo> As far as I know, Canonical directly supports zero salaries for 'flavour' contributors. Some Ubuntu Community funding helps fund travel to Akademy etc. The Blue Systems folks are no longer working on Kubuntu (occasionally one with commit rights may upload something to a repository on behalf of Kubuntu). Instead the Blue Systems folks are mostly working on KDE (one MAY be working on repeatable Debian builds for KDE software).
[18:30] <kdeuser> I'm currently looking for a longterm supported distro with KDE Plasma 5 desktop. I have tested openSUSE Leap 15 and Kubuntu 18.04 on test machines for a while and both seem to work very well. openSUSE, of course has some backing from SUSE, which is promising in terms of stability and maintenance. Kubuntu on the other hand has a somewhat nicer out o
[18:30] <kdeuser> f the box experience (e.g. with regards to multimedia) and given that I have used Debian and Ubuntu based distros for years, I know my way around the ecosystem much better, than with openSUSE. So, I'm leaning towards Kubuntu, but I'm concerned about how well the release might be supported in terms of backporting bug and security fixes.
[18:33] <kdeuser> Maybe I can put it differently: How does maintenance of the KDE releated packages work for Kubuntu? Plasma 5.12 is a LTS release. Does this mean Kubuntu can simply ship the LTS updates from KDE directly in Kubuntu or do fixes have to be cherry-picked and backported manually?
[18:36] <kdeuser> mparillo: I take it, from your statement that the community hasn't been this healthy in years, that you are a longtime member of the Kubuntu community?
[18:40] <acheronuk> kdeuser: we are doing stable release updates for bugfix and translation updates in Plasma 5.12
[18:44] <pan_> 5.12.5 in the last days. Thanks everybody!
[18:55] <pan_> anincognitoperso: hi
[18:56] <mparillo> I am not a Kubuntu member, but I have contributed for years. As far as backports go, I the minor (5.12.5) Plasma upgrade can be a Stable Release Upgrade, but anything bigger would need to go through the Kubuntu-backports PPA, which I recommend for all LTS users who do not want to upgrade every six months. Generally the Plasma / KDE Frameworks / KDE App upgrades become more difficult if they depend on a version of Qt that the larger
[18:56] <mparillo> Ubuntu project will not support in that release.
[19:00] <pan_> by the way: A question that has been bugging me for years: is there such a thing as a distro or a backport channel that just does the stable aka last point releases of all Plasma releases? Like 5.13.5, then nothing until 5.14.5, then nothing until 5.14.5 and so on?
[19:01] <pan_> that seems to me a scheme for the now practically dead Neon "LTS Edition"
[19:03] <pan_> last example was meaned to read 5.15.5 of course... ;-)
[19:07] <pan_> .
[19:08] <incognito> Hfhf
[19:08] <incognito> I would totally use that backport/distro!
[19:15] <kdeuser> Thanks for the answers. Actually, I don't need "stable" updates in the sense that I want to switch to Plasma 5.13 once it's released. I'm happy with staying on the same (ideally long term supported) version as long as it receives maintenance updates which seems to be the case here. Thanks.
[19:19] <pan_> great to hear it, kdeuser! Spread the word!!
[19:20] <pan_> still: Does anybody know of a way to jump from mature realease to mature release i.e. the .5 releases?
[19:20] <pan_> ...of Plasma?
 @pan_, Like the "still" upgrades from LibreOffice. I would love that! Is there a way?
[20:03] <pan_> IrcsomeBot: is seems like that is the strategy of Gentoo!
[21:40] <memphisto> bzzz
[23:49] <Oderus> hey all, upon upgrading to the latest version, on the login screen, it always pops an on screen keyboard. how to i turn this off?