 filed: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/635
[00:49] <ubptgbot> yoles1 was added by: yoles1
 @advocatux, *dilemma intensifies*
 tbh bug triage and testing sound like a great way to get acquainted with coding
 @Stereofont Thank you. Well, that's odd ... Why does it crash for me then, hmm :'(
 Update?
 @zubozrout, QA group is a good place to discuss…
 @zubozrout, Martin, that bug isn't closed. And yes, clock always crashes for me too.
 @Fuseteam, That's right. Now go for it! :)
 @yoles1, Hi yoles, welcome! To get your feet wet take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @advocatux, Strange that it is device dependent. We need reports for other phones
[09:02] <ubptgbot> Otto Wedel was added by: Otto Wedel
[09:03] <ubptgbot> <Otto Wedel> (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/OUTcw5lu.webp
[09:03] <ubptgbot> <Otto Wedel> Hello people!
 @advocatux, As far as I know, on a fresh 16.04 install it works. So if you install 16.04 with "wipe" enabled should fix it. But you will erase all your personal data!
[09:07] <ubptgbot> <Otto Wedel> is there a way to install ubuntu touch on Alcatel Ideal 4060a?
 @Stereofont, I really don't know if it's device dependent or just some builds are more complete than others for now
[09:10] <ubptgbot> <Otto Wedel> (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/lIolqSkO.webp
 @Otto Wedel, No, but maybe you can try to port it yourself 👍 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
[09:15] <ubptgbot> <Otto Wedel> thanks... but it seems very complex....
 Yes, it's very complex that's why there isn't more devices than these https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ for now 😆
 @jonny, Hmm is there any way to identify the culprit? I can wipe my phone, no problem, but I think users are expecting an easy upgrade route to xenial from vivid. Easy as in installing an OTA without losing anything
 @jonny, I didn't really use my clock on the tablet, so there is no history. Almost like a fresh install
 just want to be sure that nexus 5x won't run nexus 5 build, yep?
 That's right
 The clock app issue is very strange. It would be great if it could be tracked down because the clock app clearly knows it is running on Xenial based on my log attached in the report on GitHub. And I don't want to wipe all my data just for that, yup.
 @advocatux, Oh, sorry, you are right. That was the other report of the same bug in a wrong project. Thanks :)
 :)
 I'll take my chances with mx 4 then ...
 dualboot is N/A is it? it's just flashing and using one OS at the time?
 @thepeter, Dualboot is not supported for all devices
 @vanyasem, thx, thought so
 is mx4 worth the try? (my vegetahd is probably not gona make it for some time, and I can get my hands on one mx 4 for around 230 EUR, just want to be sure that I am not doing something incredibly uneffective )
 Mx4 is not the best device by any means. It has finicky USB port and some other weird issues that only affect it
 I would not pay that much for one
 thanks
 @thepeter, OnePlusOne is half that
 @thepeter, Depends on your patience. You could get a OnePlusThreeT and wait
 @Stereofont, I am avoiding android/iso/winphone on phone with my contacts and communication, so currently I am stuck on old win CE and that device is not keeping up after 2 weeks, I am  looking for patch to use, i regards on patience I am more thinking about librem 5 when time comes
 Those phones and HTC10 may be available in a few months. Librem 5 a much longer wait
 I don't really think that HTC 10 will be ready in 6 months
 Halium is not in the best shape right now
 @Stereofont, Wasn't it supoosed to launch in 2019q2?
 The librem 5
 @vanyasem, Thanks for the update. It is difficult to make choices right now
 tell me about it ^ I am quite happy that, even if they send me wrong display for vegetahd from ebay (after quite longer time than promissed) I was able at least get to my contacts etc using original display as kind of touchpad and new one as "monitor" … choices are not easy these days, that is true :)
 Nexus 5 is very capable but it does have hardware weaknesses and the older it gets, the more those show. OPO would keep you going for a year
 btw which database file is for the contacts? :) (doing the backup manually )
 @Stereofont, I'm closer and closer to getting a n5 😊
 @Stereofont, thank you, this kind of advice I need
 @thepeter, You can find it in `.local/share/evolution/`
 @advocatux, thx
 👍
 The full path just for contacts is `.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db` but I pointed that evolution directory because there are more things there
 adressbook/system/contacts.db
 yep
 but messagess are elsewhere as I dig in my beck memories, are they?
 [Edit] but messagess are elsewhere as I dig in my back memories, are they?
 Sms and call logs `.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite`
 cool thx and the adressbook needs evolution only, or will it sqlite be capable of reading?
 @thepeter, With sqlite reader you can
 @Cesar_Herrera, thanks
 I don't understand your question exactly but of course sqlite can read it
 Oh maybe you just need to access the contact.db to read the content? yep sqlite is enough for that
 yep that is it :)
 Right :)
 okay, I am on it ... will hopefully not feel like handless at the end of the day :)
 thanks a lot for help, I appreciate it
 btw how much is worth each of curretnly supported phones? e.g n4? 45Eur?
 [Edit] btw how much is worth each of currently supported phones? e.g n4? 45Eur?
 Das kann nicht sein ernst sein.docx
 Sry
[15:22] <ubptgbot> balkyn was added by: balkyn
 Welcome @balkyn !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 @thepeter, Nexus 4/5 should both be had for less than €100 used
[16:06] <ubptgbot> Robert Wallis was added by: Robert Wallis
 Welcome Robert !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[16:11] <ubptgbot> <Robert Wallis> Hi there. What can I do to get my Moto G5s to a community available UBports build? I am not a programmer but IT generalist. I can help in marketing, support, UX design etc.
 You have a working port?
[16:15] <ubptgbot> <Robert Wallis> Of course not :(
 Oh I misunderstood. You would need to find a capable dev who has time, and the phone (or buy one for them), I guess.
 Most are already super busy with other devices I think
[16:17] <ubptgbot> <Robert Wallis> I have the phone in my hands. Where would I find such a Dev?
 Maybe start a thread on forum, or try in @halium
[16:19] <ubptgbot> krokodilgennadiy was added by: krokodilgennadiy
[16:21] <ubptgbot> <Robert Wallis> Can you send a link? Thanks for your advice and time.
 @halium is already the link. t.me/halium is the full one. The porting guide is here: https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html
 Welcome @krokodilgennadiy !!! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started and feel free to ask any questions you may have in here or in our Welcome & Install room!
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <Robert Wallis> Thanks JBB
[16:46] <ubptgbot> Facu <Vikingo> was added by: Facu <Vikingo>
[16:46] <ubptgbot> <Facu <Vikingo>> hi all
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/mv8JWIFp.png Truly the easiest way to contribute to Ubuntu Touch if you have an Android phone spare (or in use, I don't judge). Download the Mozilla Location Stumbler and use it to send location data to MLS.
 That'll improve the accuracy of our Assisted GPS
 (Photo, 1198x492) https://irc.ubports.com/LpzlYAmQ.png Can i leave it like this
 Well then you're using an assisted GPS service to train a different assisted GPS service
 I'd recommended using device only or high accuracy
 @UniversalSuperBox, What is the binocular symbol?
 @Stereofont, Number of reports taken
 @UniversalSuperBox, I assumed wifi surveillance cameras 😂
 Search
 Figures
 Jeeves had that?
 Sorry, OT…
 We were trying to replace magnifying glass with binoculars for search in Tango
 @UniversalSuperBox, Oh boy I will
 My actual gps is off like 10 km
 🤔
 @VeryOriginalUsername, That's some nice accuracy
 confusing the big brother, I see
 Some GPS chips have exceptionally long fix time
 Maybe cause I live in a middle of nowhere
 Might try in a city tomorrow
 Just don't try inside
 it's bad
[17:53] <krizoek> my first day with running a ubports today. (got a nexus5). i must say. it's greater than i ever imagined
 @krizoek, Thanks ^^
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/gq05RR72.png Eh?
 I guess it's not working for me
 As promised, more pictures of the booth at ubuntu party paris 🤗 … g+ : https://plus.google.com/+cmtarudy/posts/1y6ZmvWMuCU … T: https://mobile.twitter.com/gerancet/status/1000805048044195841
 @arudy, And toot: https://octodon.social/web/statuses/100102698002917151
 Cool man!!!
 Awesome
 😊🤗
 (Photo, 600x338) https://irc.ubports.com/IxcbPjvx.png
 @arudy, wo wo wo w
 Can you send this to marketing@ubports.com plz
 We can then make a social relay posting
 @Flohack, I can do destructive discord bots in python, am I in? xd
 @VeryOriginalUsername, njo xd
 Yay, I'm so glad for this one:
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/8KCQsrXn.png
 Landscape dialer looks nice
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/0ag2Q7fH.png
 Pretty ugly on my side. Numbers and letters bleeding into one. BQ E5. But who'd dial in landscape mode anyway?
 @Flohack, doing :)
 @Jo_Led, I tell you what: Change the dpi/pix ratio for the E5. It was set up by Canonical/BQ to be really huge
 @Jo_Led why you layout has "No." instead of "#"?
 [Edit] @Jo_Led why your layout has "No." instead of "#"?
 @advocatux, They're not allowed to type that key
 @UniversalSuperBox, #No. The new anti-harrasement movement after #MeToo
 Ah thank you but that's a weird solution... unless you're joking :)
 @advocatux, It's a joke. XD
 😅😂😂
 @advocatux, No idea. I think it was not always like that, but since it does a # when i press No. i never cared to ask.
 What UT version is running in you phone?
 maybe it's a translation problem...
 Even the fonts looks different
 [Edit] Even the fonts look different
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/VFDYeUj0.png
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/X0kxEBcY.png
 no maybe stands for number ...
 "numero" in italian maybe
 [Edit] "no." maybe stands for number ...
 @advocatux, Fonts look the same imo.
 me too
 Perhaps is the combo of that T-Mobile capture and my screen :)
 Anyway, in BQ E4.5 (xenial) the numbers are displaced too
[19:43] <ubptgbot> <Facu <Vikingo>> hi guys i have a question, its posible install ubuntu touch on nexus 6 ?
 @Facu <Vikingo>, I had forgotten Nexus 6 is a thing. Anyway, no, sadly
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <Facu <Vikingo>> crap
[19:46] <ubptgbot> <Facu <Vikingo>> no way posible ?
 If you accidentally have 2 I can help >~>
 there was some halium port for it, let me fetch
 Oh, @Lyokanthrope was working on it
 https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/30
 no working UT tho
 @Jo_Led, I would if mounted as a gps
 @mateosalta, Good point. Luckily typing the correct numbers still works in landscape mode, if you type carefully.
 Its a start, still needs some tweaking
 That, and lock screen. I've seen so many people using the phone/tablet in whichever orentiation is better for plugging in the charge cable at the time
 At ubucon I saw this a lot, because the charger banks would lie on the table
 (Photo, 1920x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/zF07cXfK.png
 I backed up my system and user data. I was on stable. If I flash to 16.04 and restore my stuff will it break?
 Probably not
 I read in this chat that old click apps might not work
 I use the old twitter click for instance bc it notifies.
 Will that break?
[20:46] <ubptgbot> cuunn was added by: cuunn
 @alan_morford, There are only 10 apps in the Xenial version of OpenStore at the moment
 Some vivid apps still work well, others partly, some not at all
 @Stereofont, So try it and if it's broken then I'll have my answer.
 It is getting better all the time
 @alan_morford, I am not optimistic about the notifications working in that app but maybe someone will surprise me
 Well I'm holding off on the update because I have the n5 and it looks like calling is broken
 webapps should be fine assuming the browser is fine
 Welcome @cuunn !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 @dohbee, Webapps and pure qml apps will be fine
 Anything that compiles will need to be recompiled
 I think the notification bit was python?
 in the old canonical twitter app
 hm, it had a helper script, not sure if it needed recompiling
 but for twitter notifications, they had a feature to text you, I just made that number a contact and put the twitter logo on it ;)
 Any chance there is somebody here that got the w7 (LG L90) running? The instructions on the xda forum that are linked in the ubports device site are totally not working for me, and partly old versions (e.g. old bootloader version).
 [Edit] Any chance there is somebody here that got the w7 (LG L90) running? The instructions on the xda forum that are linked in the (old?) ubports device site are totally not working for me, and partly old versions (e.g. old bootloader version).
[23:23] <Idanwin> hi, my Ubuntu Touch says it installed 'Ubuntu 37' on May 27 and now mobile and network no longer work...
[23:24] <Idanwin> I wasn't expecting any new updates from Canonical, so maybe someone here can help me figure out what's going on
 @mateosalta, Twitter notifications come from account-polld, not the app itself
[23:41] <ubptgbot> budrage was added by: budrage