| didrocks | good morning | 06:27 |
|---|---|---|
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, good morning desktoppers | 06:31 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 06:32 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, bien, et toi? | 06:37 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks, oSoMoN | 06:38 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:39 |
| jibel | good morning everyone | 06:42 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 06:42 |
| * oSoMoN dashes to school then working from the public library | 06:43 | |
| didrocks | hey jibel | 06:46 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: ça va bien, en train de faire des tests d'install en série sur des VM :) | 06:46 |
| didrocks | afternoon duflu | 06:46 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:47 |
| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| didrocks | interesting, a syntax in any ubiquity frontend exits happily with 0 without any other info :/ | 07:38 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:57 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, good extended week-end? | 08:01 |
| Laney | moin | 08:01 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks, yeah busy but good | 08:01 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 08:01 |
| willcooke | Laney, any flooding up your wy? | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey hey Laney ;) | 08:01 |
| willcooke | way | 08:01 |
| Laney | hey willcooke didrocks | 08:01 |
| Laney | willcooke: was away for the weekend but I don't think so | 08:02 |
| Laney | was there for you? | 08:02 |
| willcooke | nah, we had a bit of llightning, but wasn't the biblical downpoor they said it would be | 08:02 |
| Laney | water butt is full again at least :D | 08:03 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:03 |
| Laney | Trevinho: what did you want re: gdm3? | 08:23 |
| Trevinho | Laney: hey... Just push to proposed the 3.28.1. As after fixing it, I noticed the same commit was already there | 08:27 |
| Laney | Trevinho: .1? | 08:29 |
| duflu | Grr. The Gnome guys seem to insist on making my code worse before they will accept it. Such a waste of everyone's time | 08:29 |
| duflu | Also, morning willcooke, Laney | 08:29 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah... | 08:29 |
| Laney | which commit? | 08:29 |
| Laney | I took the two Trevinho ones, is it another one? | 08:29 |
| Trevinho | duflu: hi duflu | 08:29 |
| willcooke | hi duflu | 08:29 |
| Laney | unref thing? | 08:29 |
| duflu | Hi Trevinho | 08:29 |
| Laney | hey duflu | 08:29 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes, that's the missing | 08:30 |
| Trevinho | Laney: as otherwise we nullify the instance when it had already been set | 08:30 |
| duflu | Was there a reason why 3.28.1 wasn't in bionic? | 08:31 |
| duflu | Just forgotten? | 08:31 |
| Trevinho | It wasn't part of my initial fix as it was based on yours which has the weak unref removal... | 08:31 |
| Trevinho | duflu: I guess no one had the time to do the packaging? | 08:32 |
| duflu | Fair enough | 08:32 |
| Laney | makes sense | 08:32 |
| Laney | yeah nobody did it yet | 08:33 |
| Laney | Trevinho: you mean .2 I think btw | 08:34 |
| Laney | I'll upload that ;-) | 08:34 |
| duflu | Awesometastic | 08:35 |
| Laney | only gdm, don't get too excited | 08:35 |
| duflu | Laney, still I am keen to see just that fix | 08:36 |
| duflu | And keen for the world to see it | 08:36 |
| Laney | |o/ | 08:37 |
| Laney | on its own merits it is reasonably exciting | 08:37 |
| duflu | "oh look, a blue car" | 08:37 |
| Trevinho | I've other various fixes for the shell too, but I've to cherry pick and debdiff and this annoys me 😅 | 08:38 |
| Laney | get them on the 3.28 branch | 08:38 |
| duflu | Trevinho, any thoughts about patching ahead of upstream (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117) ? | 08:39 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 08:39 |
| Laney | can you get git to share refs locally? | 08:39 |
| Trevinho | Who do I get votes to upload be really of the team? I should apply, but I don't want to be refused 😅 | 08:39 |
| Laney | like if I have upstream in a debian packaging repository, and also a jhbuild checkout somewhere else | 08:40 |
| Laney | I could avoid having to download the refs twice | 08:40 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah sure... I so the same, but still... | 08:40 |
| Trevinho | Ah, Saori wait... Well I've a debian packaging branch just together. | 08:41 |
| * didrocks scratches head about oem-config | 08:45 | |
| didrocks | seriously, even protecting everything, it still does create the telemetry file :/ | 09:06 |
| didrocks | xnox: jibel: do you have special tricks to debug stage 2 of ubiquity, like starting a terminal to check things running (I only see a debug option from cmdline)? | 09:11 |
| xnox | didrocks, there used to be one.... as in ctrl-alt-t used to work; but i think that was broken for a while.... | 09:12 |
| xnox | didrocks, resurrecting ctrl-alt-t could be useful, especially since one really wants the terminal launched by ubiquity, to get the exactly the same environment/runtime conditions | 09:13 |
| didrocks | ok, I think I know what happened… | 09:14 |
| duflu | xnox, for the post-installation case I revisted the Ctrl+Alt+T bug today, but don't think it's been seen since artful. Or o you mean the live session case? | 09:22 |
| xnox | duflu, "live" session, as in when ubiquity-dm is running. E.g. only-ubiquity maybe-ubiquity oem-config modes | 09:23 |
| duflu | OK. More specific than my tiny brain required | 09:23 |
| xnox | duflu, i believe c+a+t works just fine in actual full live-session and post-install =) | 09:25 |
| duflu | Generally I think it does. Only some machines struggle with USB access times (or other issues) so not always a good experience | 09:27 |
| didrocks | popey: Wimpress: hey! I have a small snap question… Once we'll rename communitheme to the definitive name, do you know if there is a procedure and a way to rename the snap via a download? | 09:35 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: o/ | 09:36 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: There is not rename facility right now :-( | 09:36 |
| popey | Yeah :( | 09:37 |
| didrocks | hum, that's going to complicate things a lot… and as snap can't have dependencies on each other, we can't even imagine tricking the system… | 09:37 |
| Wimpress | This is something we've brought up a couple of times and we are seeing more need for. | 09:37 |
| didrocks | yeah, I bet | 09:37 |
| didrocks | do you think it worthes a post on the forum? | 09:38 |
| Wimpress | We have some upstream who've change their project names recently. | 09:38 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: Please do post on the forum and ping me a link and I'll provide back up :-) | 09:38 |
| didrocks | my last post on communitheme-set-default classic confinement is still hanging after a month, that's why I'm asking honestly if there is a benefit posting :p | 09:38 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: Link to classic request please? | 09:39 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/classic-confinement-request-communitheme-set-default/5146 | 09:40 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: I'll post this afternoon and will give you the link as well, thanks! | 09:40 |
| * duflu -> kitchen duty | 10:01 | |
| popey | didrocks: it is absolutely worth postingt on the forum or we can't track the conversation. | 10:01 |
| didrocks | will do then | 10:02 |
| oSoMoN | the solution that's been suggested to me for the play0ad->0ad rename is to publish an update under the old name that pops up a dialog box suggesting to install the new snap and remove the old one | 10:27 |
| oSoMoN | I'll probably end up doing it, but it's far from ideal | 10:27 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch | ||
| didrocks | oSoMoN: yeah, harder for a session theme :) | 12:00 |
| xnox | didrocks, commented on all the ubiquity merge proposals | 12:01 |
| didrocks | thanks xnox! | 12:04 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, yeah, it's already clunky at best in the case of a game / simple app, but definitely not an option for a session theme | 12:17 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: if I can make the theme blinky with a zenity popup telling "Change!" :) | 12:17 |
| Laney | force change the wallpaper :D | 12:18 |
| didrocks | heh | 12:20 |
| === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski | ||
| didrocks | Laney: some git buildpackage question for you, I want to control where my signed .changes are exported (like in a subdirectory instead of the parent one), I only find option for the export git directory, any idea? | 12:41 |
| Laney | didrocks: [buildpackage]\nexport-dir=../build-area | 12:42 |
| Laney | in ~/.gbp.conf | 12:43 |
| didrocks | ah, that will as well impact the .changes and all things associated? Nice | 12:44 |
| didrocks | let me give it a try :) | 12:45 |
| Laney | hopefully | 12:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: works perfectly, thanks! | 12:46 |
| Laney | 😗 | 12:46 |
| didrocks | the manpage wasn't making me so confident when I read it before you proposed to try it | 12:47 |
| Laney | I think it puts the source in that directory and then runs stuff there | 12:47 |
| Laney | so it ends up in the same place | 12:47 |
| Laney | 🍲 brb | 12:48 |
| didrocks | yeah, could be | 12:48 |
| Nafallo | are we there yet? :-) | 13:26 |
| willcooke | ding ding | 13:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29 | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue May 29 13:30:32 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:30 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29 | Current topic: | ||
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock (hols), dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128 (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:30 |
| jibel | hi | 13:30 |
| oSoMoN | hey | 13:30 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 13:30 |
| Nafallo | hola | 13:31 |
| didrocks | hey hey | 13:31 |
| Laney | I've been doing a breaking bad | 13:32 |
| willcooke | Not again | 13:32 |
| Laney | and trying to catch a fly downstairs | 13:32 |
| willcooke | oh | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | lol | 13:32 |
| * Laney speed writes | 13:32 | |
| * kenvandine imagined laney with a lab | 13:32 | |
| willcooke | We've talked about making crack | 13:32 |
| didrocks | haha | 13:32 |
| Laney | Better Call Didrocks | 13:32 |
| willcooke | dgadomski, are you around this week or shall I skip to didrocks? | 13:33 |
| dgadomski | hey, I'm here | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | lol | 13:33 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 13:33 |
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| dgadomski | submitted a fix for bug #1755490 | 13:33 |
| dgadomski | checking a bug with gdm not being shown on a vmware vm, gathering more info before reporting lp bug | 13:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490 | 13:33 |
| dgadomski | eof | 13:33 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 13:33 |
| dgadomski | thanks | 13:33 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 13:33 |
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| didrocks | * Ubuntu Report. Fixes upstream only, will need to SRU (and probably FFe?). Latest commits on https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/commits/master | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - Now, when we can't post (no Internet for instance) the report immediately, we drop a file that is picked up by a service which will try to send it (with exponential backoff). The service is only started if the file is present to minimize footprint | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - Get screen physical size which will enable us to measure dpi | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - Report language used within session to fix OEM case (installer language being most of the time English there) | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - Discussed with j_ibel about metrics, what is valid, how to measure and accumulate values. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - Some first contributor PR review (still WIP) | 13:34 |
| didrocks | * Communitheme: | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - fix CI setup for gtk-common-helper (was due to a small typo): https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/commit/66de8add2eaf73ee10e23f36935174ebf7b6e896 | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - discussions (public and private) with the core community around issues and with the suru maintainer over the hub. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | * Ubuntu Make: | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - help current maintainer with autopkgtests to unblock stuck version in -proposed: | 13:34 |
| didrocks | + move autopkgtests to bionic env (no requirement on unity process anymore) and also from adt- to autopkgtest command. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | + lot of discussions and help. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | + Now, it's up to the new maintainer to fix latest regressions. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | * Misc: | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - book flights for GUADEC | 13:34 |
| didrocks | - fight on sso issues and debug with IS | 13:34 |
| didrocks | I didn't get any time to look seriously at my only assigned tracking bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1765389). Will do this week! | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1765389 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu Bionic) "[FFe] Drop unrelated changes from revert-prce2.patch" [Low,Triaged] | 13:34 |
| didrocks | And @Laney: yes, but depends on which season of the character you associate me with. | 13:34 |
| didrocks | . | 13:34 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 13:34 |
| willcooke | #topic duflu | 13:35 |
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| willcooke | * Ubuntu 18.04 regressions: | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - FIXED! Panel and menus are clipped when in zoom (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767648). See below list of merge requests for the fix. This is a little exciting because it not only fixes three open bugs, but also unblocks more ways of optimizing gnome-shell (which I was stuck on some months ago). | 13:35 |
| willcooke | * Mutter work completed and proposed this week: | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - The 18.04 zoom regression (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117) as well as other issues found along the way: | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1767648 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Top bar and shell dialogs are not displayed properly when zoom is enabled" [High,In progress] | 13:35 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | . clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/112) | 13:35 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 112 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix clutter_actor_is_in_clone_paint" (comments: 1) [Opened] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | . clutter-actor: Fix uninitialized matrix multiply (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/114) | 13:35 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 114 in mutter "clutter-actor: Fix uninitialized matrix multiply" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | . clutter-effect: Rename get_paint_volume (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/115) | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - renderer-native: Reference count front buffers. (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/119) | 13:35 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 115 in mutter "clutter-effect: Rename get_paint_volume" (comments: 2) [Opened] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | * Noteworthy Ubuntu 18.10 regressions: | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - Found out why cosmic was freezing and being generally unusable. And it was fixed last week: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767896 | 13:35 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 119 in mutter "renderer-native: Reference count front buffers." (comments: 19) [Opened] | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1767896 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live images with broken seed causes snapd high CPU usage and periodic short GUI freezes" [High,Fix released] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | * BlueZ 5.49: | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - Unexpectedly blocked on new lintian failures in cosmic. And upon looking at Debian I found they have already released 5.49 before us, which has never happened before. Now planning on pulling a few things from there to complete/fix the release. Maybe a full sync with Debian at some stage too, but that may prove risky given how long we've been diverged. | 13:35 |
| willcooke | * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput. | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - Interestingly this week has been the worst for backlog growth since bionic release week. Although ubiquity, firefox and nautilus scale the graph so much that you can't easily see that most packages have gone slightly backwards this week. | 13:35 |
| willcooke | - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive | 13:35 |
| willcooke | door 1 sec | 13:35 |
| willcooke | back | 13:36 |
| * willcooke checks rls bugs | 13:36 | |
| willcooke | I'll ask him about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1758035 tomorrow | 13:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1758035 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_realloc_n() from g_log_structured()" [High,Confirmed] | 13:36 |
| willcooke | #topic jbicha | 13:37 |
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| willcooke | guess jbicha isn't around today | 13:37 |
| willcooke | #topic jibel / heber | 13:38 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29 | Current topic: jibel / heber | ||
| jibel | - Ubuntu-report: | 13:38 |
| jibel | - done stored procedures to aggregate and export collected data | 13:38 |
| jibel | - Started work on the dashboard. | 13:38 |
| jibel | - Daily bug triaging | 13:38 |
| jibel | done | 13:38 |
| willcooke | thanks jibel. Any rls bugs to update on? | 13:38 |
| willcooke | I dont think I see any in the list | 13:39 |
| jibel | no | 13:39 |
| willcooke | merci | 13:39 |
| jibel | de rien | 13:39 |
| willcooke | #topic kenvandine | 13:39 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29 | Current topic: kenvandine | ||
| kenvandine | * Updated some of the GNOME snaps to latest releases and fixed snapcraft deprecations | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | - In the candidate channel, need to finish testing them and promote them to stable. | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | * Tested snapd PR with calendar and contacts interfaces with gnome-calendar and gnome-contacts snaps | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | * rls bug #934291 Will be uploading cups-pk-helper to bionic this week | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | ⚾ | 13:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 934291 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu Bionic) "Deleting or stopping print jobs does not work" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934291 | 13:40 |
| willcooke | thanks kenvandine | 13:40 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 13:40 |
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| Laney | sry was deleting a spam comment | 13:41 |
| willcooke | (from his van) | 13:41 |
| Laney | also fighting the giant fly | 13:41 |
| Laney | • slightly short week, holiday yesterday | 13:41 |
| Laney | • gstreamer 1.14.1 update for cosmic uploaded, bionic prepared, waiting for cosmic to migrate out of proposed | 13:41 |
| Laney | • worked a lot on systemd --user stuff, can get into gdm now, log in, lock/unlock, do most things but still a decent amount more work to be done | 13:41 |
| Laney | • Uploaded new gdm 3.28.2 to debian, cosmic, bionic including setting up our git branches for those - this upload includes another change which is meant to fix the remaining login problems | 13:41 |
| Laney | • rls bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1771290 going to work on later | 13:41 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1771290 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu Bionic) "Untranslated list of encodings in preferences" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:41 |
| Laney | 🍞 | 13:41 |
| willcooke | nice onem thanks Laney | 13:42 |
| willcooke | Laney, would you be able to do a blog post write up of the systemd user stuff at some point? | 13:42 |
| willcooke | don't need to wait, so moving on | 13:43 |
| willcooke | #topic oSoMoN | 13:43 |
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| oSoMoN | hey | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | this was a short week as I took a day off yesterday to travel back home from Paris | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | • firefox | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ investigated further https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1462888 | 13:43 |
| Laney | yes | 13:43 |
| ubot5 | Mozilla bug 1462888 in Add-ons "Flareget addon not working on firefox.snap" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:43 |
| Laney | I'll write something for planet GNOME anyways | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | • chromium | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ e-mailed Carlos Garnacho (GNOME Shell on-screen keyboard maintainer) to get some guidance on possible ibus integration | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ updated beta to 67.0.3396.56 | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ updated dev to 68.0.3438.3 | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ following new Google requirements for API key use, discussed the current situation and compared with what other distros (debian, fedora) do | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | • libreoffice | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ filed and investigated bug #1772683, created https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/signing-files-with-gpg-from-within-a-snap/5566 | 13:43 |
| ubot5 | bug 1772683 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Cannot sign a document, gpg keys are not listed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772683 | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | • other | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ got interviewed for Compilando Podcast, a Spanish-language podcast about Free Software (https://compilando.audio/), chatted mostly about 18.04, the transition from Unity to GNOME Shell, and snaps | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | ∘ talked about what's new in 18.04 at the Ubuntu Party in Paris in front of ~40 people, mostly a non-technical audience (with a few exceptions), fielded many good questions, lots of interest == useful presentation :) | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | 🚂 | 13:44 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, any more updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1754671 | 13:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Confirmed] | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN, awesome! | 13:44 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, the bug was reportedly fixed upstream, I need to see how feasible it is to backport the relevant commits | 13:45 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, ack thx | 13:45 |
| willcooke | (thanks Laney) | 13:45 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 13:45 |
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| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Investigations how to handle OutputOrder (first page first or large page first) correctly. | 13:45 |
| tkamppeter | - Google Summer of Code 2018: Coding period has started. Video meetings with thetwo students I am directly mentoring. | 13:45 |
| tkamppeter | - OpenPrinting Summit 2018: Printer drivers and raw queues deprecated, as most modern printers support driverless, for legacy printer application (daemon emulating an IPP printer) will be used. | 13:45 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 13:45 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter. Will you do a write up from OPS? | 13:46 |
| willcooke | dont need to wait, so | 13:47 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 13:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-29 | Current topic: Trevinho | ||
| Trevinho | · Some reviews and cherry-picks on upstream mutter | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · GDM login fix, got a fix, then found it was already upstreamed, meh! | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Other various GDM debugging, and discussing with upstream how to prevent | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | repetitive retries | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · GDM (shell greeter) issues when retrying logins | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/116 | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Fixed gnome-shell crash (already upstreamed and cherry-picked) | 13:47 |
| tkamppeter | Could do in the next days. | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1714989 | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/115 | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1714989 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() from st_label_set_text() from ffi_call_unix64()" [Critical,Fix released] | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Some comments on the new GNOME login/lock screen: | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/276#note_225787 | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Discussion about some refactory in gjs for managing dead objects | 13:47 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 116 in gnome-shell "GDM login retries fixes" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 13:47 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 115 in gnome-shell "st-label: Unset clutter text instance on disposal" (comments: 1) [Merged] | 13:47 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug 276 in gnome-shell "New unlock/login design" (comments: 13) [Opened] | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | Error: Gnome bug 276 could not be found | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Finalized the booking for the GUADEC accommodation | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Rewriting nautilus query to support deep search != recursive search | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | · Weekeend fun: tilix snap, | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | https://github.com/3v1n0/tilix/tree/snap-support | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | ☕ 🇧🇬 | 13:47 |
| Trevinho | [not sure some lines were dropped... after "discussion about...", the next one should be the booking accommodation, right? | 13:48 |
| willcooke | yeah | 13:48 |
| Trevinho | allright then :) | 13:49 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, your other bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1756826 | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1756826 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "hangs when locate search provider matches a lot of files" [High,Triaged] | 13:49 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: yeah, i've hard time in reproducing it to be fair here... | 13:49 |
| Trevinho | basically I'd need laney's mail directory :-D | 13:50 |
| willcooke | heh, I'll leave you guys to work that one out :) | 13:50 |
| Trevinho | I've done some fake files but not noticed many issues | 13:50 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: nautilus ones are higher prio | 13:50 |
| willcooke | nod | 13:50 |
| Laney | I can give you the "tree" of it if you want | 13:50 |
| Trevinho | I mean, the ones about the search upstream | 13:50 |
| willcooke | k, we can sort that out after the meeting | 13:51 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 13:51 |
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| willcooke | - Working on gnome-control-center improvements | 13:51 |
| willcooke | - gnome-initial-setup releases | 13:51 |
| willcooke | - snapd-glib common ID support | 13:51 |
| Laney | but it's really just a hierarchy of 385183 files all of which match my machine name | 13:51 |
| willcooke | kenvandine, Robert's got quite a lot of bugs against his name in: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:52 |
| willcooke | if you speak to him could you get an updates / check he's aware | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | willcooke, i will | 13:52 |
| willcooke | #topic New bugs review | 13:52 |
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| willcooke | Since you guys went through the list last week there are a few unassigned ones to look at quickly | 13:52 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1765724 | 13:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1765724 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Xenial -> Bionic - System fails to boot after upgrade - gnome-screensaver & gnome-shell fail to start?" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:52 |
| willcooke | Might be able to just ignore that one | 13:53 |
| willcooke | jibel can't reproduce any more | 13:53 |
| jibel | and still cannot | 13:53 |
| Laney | notfixing then | 13:53 |
| Laney | or close the bug | 13:53 |
| willcooke | jibel, can you chance the tags | 13:53 |
| jibel | let it expire | 13:53 |
| Laney | it comes up on the list every week | 13:53 |
| jibel | done | 13:54 |
| Laney | thanks | 13:54 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1765644 | 13:54 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1765644 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup runs for upgraders in GNOME session & deletes alternate keymaps" [High,Triaged] | 13:54 |
| didrocks | I guess for Robert… | 13:54 |
| willcooke | It was, then Seb unassigned | 13:54 |
| didrocks | without untagging, weird | 13:55 |
| willcooke | Hm, I don't understand how important that one is. I'll read more and speak to jbicha in a bit | 13:56 |
| didrocks | yeah, if you setup multiple keyboard layout and g-i-s erases them after upgrade, it's annoying | 13:56 |
| didrocks | (if I understand correctly what the issue is about= | 13:56 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1761554 | 13:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1761554 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] Extended characters in GNOME screen keyboard don't get entered" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:57 |
| willcooke | looks like that one is in hand | 13:57 |
| didrocks | yes | 13:57 |
| willcooke | k, and I think that's the end of the list | 13:57 |
| willcooke | Did I miss any? | 13:58 |
| willcooke | Let's assume not and we can come back later if needed | 13:58 |
| willcooke | so we can move on to | 13:58 |
| willcooke | #AOB | 13:58 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 13:58 |
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| willcooke | oh, hold on | 13:58 |
| willcooke | #topic jamesh | 13:59 |
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| willcooke | snapd/evolution-data-server: | 13:59 |
| willcooke | * got EDS pull request ready for review with Spread tests passing on | 13:59 |
| willcooke | Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, SUSE, and Arch: | 13:59 |
| willcooke | https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5184 | 13:59 |
| willcooke | * I've addressed feedback by zyga and jdstrand, but there was some | 13:59 |
| ubot5-ng | snapcore bug (Pull request) 5184 in snapd "interfaces: add desktop-{contacts,calendar}-service interfaces" (comments: 3) [Open] | 13:59 |
| willcooke | concern about the interface names. | 13:59 |
| willcooke | * chatted with niemeyer about the interface naming issue, and settled | 13:59 |
| willcooke | on calendar-service and contacts-service. | 13:59 |
| willcooke | * I'll push through updates for this tomorrow so I think we could get | 13:59 |
| willcooke | it merged this week. | 13:59 |
| willcooke | snapd/portals: | 13:59 |
| willcooke | * I've started work on a branch to handle the xdg-document-portal | 13:59 |
| willcooke | startup issue (the last issue needed to get working desktop-portal | 13:59 |
| willcooke | support). This involves some changes to how "snap run" works, so | 13:59 |
| willcooke | there may be some questions about the best way to handle the process | 13:59 |
| willcooke | startup. | 13:59 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 13:59 |
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| willcooke | Anyone got anything to talk about? | 13:59 |
| willcooke | Oh, I have a quick one | 13:59 |
| willcooke | Where do we have Twitter integration in 16.04? | 13:59 |
| willcooke | I thought maybe online accounts, but it's not there | 14:00 |
| willcooke | meh, not meeting worthy, but if you know, tell me | 14:00 |
| willcooke | any more for any more | 14:00 |
| didrocks | no twitter scope | 14:00 |
| didrocks | I don't think we have anything by default with twitter? gwibber has been removed for long of default install at that time :) | 14:00 |
| willcooke | I think it's probably dead code, so NFA needed | 14:00 |
| willcooke | It's another one of these "you need to review your app or move to the new apis etc etc" things | 14:01 |
| didrocks | (which isn't free anymore IIRC) | 14:01 |
| willcooke | anyway, if no AOB then | 14:01 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 29 14:01:44 2018 UTC. | 14:01 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-05-29-13.30.moin.txt | 14:01 |
| willcooke | thanks all | 14:01 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 14:01 |
| oSoMoN | thanks! | 14:01 |
| willcooke | didrocks, yeah I think we can probably do nothing and that will be fine | 14:01 |
| didrocks | right, being cut out at worse :) | 14:02 |
| willcooke | I'm poking around in 16.04 now to see if anything is hidden away, but I not | 14:02 |
| Laney | Trevinho: One part of fixing that bug is making the search get properly cancelled when you close the overview, I don't think you need to reproduce my setup for that | 14:03 |
| Nafallo | if we get cut out we might get a bug about what's not working ;-) | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: mh, ok... that's different thing, more g-s related probably then | 14:08 |
| Trevinho | or, well, i see | 14:08 |
| Laney | different? | 14:08 |
| Laney | that's what my bug says... | 14:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I mean different to what i was thinking to change | 14:15 |
| Laney | oh right | 14:16 |
| Laney | well, there's probably a nautilus-side fix too for the ctrl-f case | 14:16 |
| GunnarHj | willcooke, didrocks: I noticed the discussion about bug #1765644. Possibly it's somehow related to bug #1762952, which is being worked on. But the pending fix does not address the basic issue: Both GNOME (at least g-c-c, but probably also g-i-s) and the keyboard-configuration package write to /etc/default/keyboard, and they have different ideas of what it should contain. | 14:20 |
| ubot5 | bug 1765644 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup runs for upgraders in GNOME session & deletes alternate keymaps" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1765644 | 14:20 |
| ubot5 | bug 1762952 in console-setup (Ubuntu) "Alternative shortcut for layout switching Alt+Shift unexpectedly set by default" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762952 | 14:20 |
| didrocks | GunnarHj: yeah, I guess the issue might be in how the keyboard is dealt vs upstream which isn't working completely for us. Let's see with jbicha | 14:21 |
| GunnarHj | didrocks: ok | 14:21 |
| didrocks | jibel: when you have time, do you mind giving a review on the installer fixes for .1 vs telemetry? There are: | 14:23 |
| didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/346975 | 14:23 |
| didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/346976 | 14:23 |
| didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/347043 | 14:23 |
| didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/347044 | 14:23 |
| didrocks | (those are 2 branches actually, one on master for cosmic and another one for bionic SRU) | 14:24 |
| didrocks | the bugs have all been turned into SRUs and ready | 14:24 |
| didrocks | and tested done on ubuntu, kubuntu, debconf frontend, in OEM and non OEM mode | 14:24 |
| jibel | didrocks, sure, I'll do the reviews tomorrow. I'd like to finish what on working on before eod | 14:29 |
| didrocks | sure | 14:29 |
| didrocks | does anyone else have graphical glitches on top of inbox or any other components in thunderbird? | 14:40 |
| didrocks | like, on my inbox list, on my gmail account, I see a fork and knife… | 14:40 |
| ogra_ | probably a subtle hint you shoudl go for that late lunch that you skipped today ? | 14:41 |
| didrocks | hehe, it seems it displays everyday thus | 14:41 |
| didrocks | and sometimes, it's a "boom"-like picture | 14:41 |
| ogra_ | it knows your eating habit ;) | 14:41 |
| didrocks | unsure how to take that one :p | 14:42 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/renaming-communitheme-snap-soon-to-a-new-name/5667 written down | 14:45 |
| Wimpress | Thanks | 14:45 |
| popey | didrocks: moved it to the store category, because really it's the store that's the blocker here | 14:50 |
| didrocks | popey: ok, thanks ;) | 14:50 |
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| oSoMoN | good evening all | 16:53 |
| willcooke | and goodnight from me | 16:59 |
| === Beret- is now known as Beret | ||
| === Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion | ||
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