[12:51] <cmaloney> morning
[12:52] <rick_h_> morning
[12:55] <jrwren> Good morning.
[13:38] <waldo323> good morning
[13:45]  * rick_h_ keeps thinking it's monday, realizes it's Tuesday and freaks out that there's not enough time 
[14:12] <jrwren> there is never enough time.
[14:12] <rick_h_> true true
[14:18] <Scary_Guy> https://reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8mw5ms/npm_suddenly_fails_worldwide_with_err_418_im_a/
[15:08] <cmaloney> NPM makes me wonder how much gasoline it would take to just burn the whole thing down
[15:09] <jrwren> IKR? I can't believe that is a popular platform.
[15:11] <cmaloney> thing is I know there are growing pains and what-not for package management
[15:11] <cmaloney> I get that
[15:12] <cmaloney> but it just seems like they don't take things quite as seriously as I would like
[15:14] <jrwren> you can't even run your own mirror
[15:14] <jrwren> there is no way to point an npm client anywhere but npmjs.org
[15:14] <jrwren> its not-distributed by design.
[15:15] <cmaloney> not even with a squid proxy?
[15:15] <cmaloney> because that's no fun
[15:15] <jrwren> https w/ certificate checking, so no, not even with.
[15:15] <cmaloney> ouch
[15:15] <jrwren> you could trust some cert on teh system, I guess, but that is just BAD
[15:16] <cmaloney> I know pip recently got caching, but it also got aggressive to the point where you wanted it to shut off
[15:16] <cmaloney> but still, not having local access to packages is terrible
[15:19] <jrwren> i dont know how priv orgs do it
[15:19] <jrwren> you can't make a module and share it internally. its rediculous