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ubptgbot<m_rio> hi, I trying to use 0.1.9 beta installer on windows 10 (dell venue 11 pro) and the installer can't detect the nexus 500:29
ubptgbot<m_rio> using 'adb devices' i can see nexus listed in cmd promt00:30
ubptgbot<mateosalta> try booting into fastboot00:43
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I never had luck with it recognizing any of my devices, always had to boot to fastboot first00:43
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, Yep. He has tried multiple times. Seems more deep seated. So bootloader failing?07:58
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ubptgbot<YougoChats> perhaps crude but would it be possible to pull a boot img from a working nexus 5 and pushing it to gostranger's? or was that already tried08:32
ubptgbot<YougoChats> or whichever img is needed08:33
ubptgbot<advocatux> @YougoChats, Already tried08:34
ubptgbot<YougoChats> when he flashes android, it does work?08:37
ubptgbot<advocatux> @YougoChats, You can see all the tries and everything done until now in the Install group ;)08:39
ubptgbot<YougoChats> that's one mother of a backlog though...08:39
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yep but is OT to talked about that here. You can ask him too in that group08:40
ubptgbot<Stereofont> A general thought: experience in the Install room points to an increasing rate of failure in supported devices, some of which are quite old. This will start to rival the 15.04 problem. We need to skip forward by 3 years or so08:43
ubptgbot<leoaslan> Any update on nexus 5x08:48
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @leoaslan, It has been very difficult to port apparently. It may even be abandoned? It is not much like Nexus 508:55
ubptgbot<leoaslan> @Stereofont, Oops that's was the only device available for me to purchase in my region09:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @leoaslan, Porting is extremely difficult and specific for each phone. Maybe Dalton will get more time when 16.04 is stable09:25
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @leoaslan, Did you look at the community port, Titan?09:26
ubptgbot<Stereofont> https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-9309:39
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ubptgbot<samitormanen> Does anybody have problem with CuteSpotify? It doesn't show any playlists anymore. Cleaned cache, data and even reinstalled it and still not working. Android spotify shows playlists just fine.11:32
ubptgbot<milkor73> I imagine you have a premium account? Without it does not work11:34
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> Iirc the library Cutespotify uses is deprecated...11:42
ubptgbot<samitormanen> @milkor73, Yes I have.11:44
ubptgbot<samitormanen> It worked about week ago.11:44
ubptgbot<samitormanen> Maybe I should install Mopidy again. It worked quite well..11:45
ubptgbot<milkor73> @samitormanen, can I PM you, it is about UBwriters tutorials11:48
ubptgbot<samitormanen> @milkor73, Ok, sure.11:49
ubptgbotFurnace McOven was added by: Furnace McOven12:06
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> Hey guys. what are the prerequisites for me to install Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 5. … I have already unlocked the bootloader. … The phone is not rooted … I don't have a custom recovery installed … It's on Android 6.0.112:07
ubptgbot<milkor73> @Furnace McOven, Welcome Furnace !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome12:07
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> Hi. I checked the FAQ out 🙂12:10
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> maybe I missed the answer?12:10
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> I  just wanted to know if my current phone's config is good? no root, boot unlocked, no recovery12:11
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> Android 6.012:11
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Should be fine afaik. The UBports installer will flash it's own custom recovery, root is not neccesary since everything is done using the fastboot bootloader.12:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Furnace McOven, yes, it's fine. "root" shouldn't matter. as long as bootloader is unlocked you can flash. all data on the device will be wiped and replaced with ubuntu13:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> Good bye Huawei! We wont see UT on you at any new phone! - https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/14:06
ubptgbot<Flohack> [Edit] Good Bye Huawei! We wont see UT on you at any new phone! - https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/14:06
ubptgbot<Flohack> (and Honor also)14:06
ubptgbot<Flohack> They.Are.Really.Stupid.14:06
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Flohack, :(14:07
ubptgbot<Flohack> I was actually talking with a German Honor representative on gamescom last year. I wsa trying to reach them for discussing options for UT. Never received an answer.14:08
ubptgbot<Flohack> [Edit] I was actually talking with a German Honor representative on gamescom last year. I was trying to reach them for discussing options for UT. Never received an answer.14:08
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ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> To be fair, considering we're so small, Im more supriced by the oportunitys that are actually available to us14:17
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Flohack, i heard about this.  this is by far the most stupid move they have made and my prediction is that this decision will put the nails in their coffin - period.  Bye bye huawei from all phones.14:20
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> I guess they could force their own people to buy it with rifles...14:21
ubptgbot<Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki> How about we consider some of these inexpensive Chinese made phones that could actually be a great platform to build something from the ground up?14:29
ubptgbot<Flohack> Yes but no Mediatek plz xD14:45
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I miss Wiley fox14:47
ubptgbot<Furnace McOven> Thank you14:48
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, Sure. Fine. As long as no locked bootloader ha15:29
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Furnace McOven. I love your name. You are on fire for Ubuntu Touch?15:29
ubptgbotmukrik_id was added by: mukrik_id15:33
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> Hi15:33
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> I have problem when install ubintu touch15:33
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> I use windows installer15:34
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> But when i reboot to bootloader nothing happens15:34
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> Can somebody tell me how i can install via windows15:34
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> Please private chat me if you can help me solve my problem15:34
ubptgbot<mukrik_id> Thanks in advace15:35
ubptgbotOnilrac was added by: Onilrac15:41
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @mukrik_id ! Check out this link to get you started and we can try to help in the Welcome & Install room (there's a link on the webpage) https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome15:47
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @Onilrac !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed15:47
ubptgbot<blank_x> @xXx, ?16:40
ubptgbotNarayan was added by: Narayan16:43
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Narayan !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome16:46
ubptgbot<Narayan> Do I need to unlock bootloader to install ubuntu touch on nexus 4.16:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes16:47
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @UniversalSuperBox, Nice interview Dalton! You firmly confirmed that UBports is still on track and fully operational....well done 😁👍17:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Thanks!17:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> interview?17:29
ubptgbot<amolith> @dohbee, The most recent post on the News Channel. Dalton was on LateNightLinux Episode 38.17:32
ubptgbot<slp1605> I was wondering, is the current Nexus 5 port is based on halium-5.1 or halium-7.1?17:35
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Neither. It uses ubp-5.1 which Halium was based on.17:35
ubptgbot<slp1605> Ah, OK, thanks. BTW, do you think it'd be worth working on a new port based on halium-7.1 to get the latest versions of the Android BSP libraries?17:38
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Furnace McOven, Welcome Room if you need assistance17:38
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @slp1605, See my comment above. I think Nexus 5 is showing its age. Moving on would provably be effort better spent17:42
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @slp1605, [Edit] See my comment above. I think Nexus 5 is showing its age. Moving on would probably be effort better spent17:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't think that's strue17:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> "more people are having problems now with installing on nexus 5" is only a sign that more people are trying to flash nexus 5 with ubports, not that those problems are necessarily due to bad hardware17:43
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, I don't know for certain. Statistically, some will last 20 years but the failure rate overall will increase17:43
ubptgbot<Stereofont> If three years is design life, five is doing well17:44
ubptgbot<Stereofont> FP2 resolves that17:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> how does fp2 resolve that?17:46
ubptgbot<slp1605> @Stereofont, Just bought a second hand one, and I don't mind investing some time on that. But I'm not sure if a new BSP would have a noticeable impact on UT.17:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, It is modular. Not a perfect solution but you can easily repair at no more cost than the component17:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's more servicable, but it doesn't solve many of the related problems. it's not esily upgradable and doesn't account for telcos shutting down 2G (or 3G when that time comes)17:48
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @dohbee, Meanwhile in Poland there are many places where you don't get even 2g signal not speaking of 3g17:51
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It tries at least and the display is housed in an industrial casing 😂17:51
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @VeryOriginalUsername, Sorry, thought it's the ot chat17:51
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Where we go from here with devices is on topic?17:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, i don't think attempting to deter people from improving support of nexus 5 or other older phones is a good plan17:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Stereofont, by definition, anything relating to ubports is "on topic" here, considering this is the ubports group :)17:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, Depends on the time it will rake and the amount of energy required17:53
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Also sn evaluation of alternatives17:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> not really17:54
ubptgbot<Stereofont> [Edit] Also an evaluation of alternatives17:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> the topic is the topic17:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> and a group chat is for chatting. if a few people want to talk about ubports on nexus 5 for an hour, it's still on topic17:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> might get annoying for some who don't disable notifications for any message to the group, but it's still on topic17:55
ubptgbot<Stereofont> More views on this would be useful. Those are two for starters17:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, the goal is to move all devices to halium at some point as i understand it17:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> and we shouldn't discourage people from wanting to help on that front17:57
ubptgbot<slp1605> Is there any working port based on halium, or are all ubp-5.1?18:03
ubptgbot<slp1605> (If I'm asking in the wrong place, please point me in the right direction, thanks!)18:16
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> `./` is equivalent to `sudo`, right?20:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> no20:05
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No20:05
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `./` means 'in the current directory'20:06
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Ok. So what does it suggest if I compile a basic C program in the terminal (installed via Libertine) and it tells me "permission denied"?20:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Did you do `chmod +x` on it to mark it executable?20:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, what does `file <yourthing>` say it is?20:08
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Dalton, yes.20:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> because it's probably not built for the architecture you're trying to run it on20:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I would expect "exec format error" in that case20:09
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Rodney: hello_world: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=6865eb603050836199cccea861bc93afab2840bb, not stripped20:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Is `Permission denied` the only error?20:10
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Yes, compilation goes fine.20:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Any apparmor denies in `dmesg`?20:12
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Will check in a sec. But ls -al doesn't show any x's next to the file. I should probably be running chmod +x in the native UT terminal, rather than the Libertine one.20:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> well there you go20:13
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> That doesn't change things. Hmmm. Can't make it executable in either terminal.20:14
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Why would that be?20:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Is the file residing in a place that's mounted with `noexec`?20:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `mount |grep noexec`20:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> you're running the command wrong?20:22
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> For some reason this seems to be because I was doing it within the SD card folder symlinked into "mount".20:30
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> But it works fine from the internal storage, probably because of Dalton's guess.20:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> is your SD card in vfat? or ext?20:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> FAT 32 which is I believe the only one UT ordinarily allows.20:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> well it's the only one that gets auto-mounted20:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's also noexec by default i think, because well fat doesn't really support unix permissions20:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> so noexec is better for security20:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Because otherwise everything is 777 which is potentially dangerous20:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> This way at least it's 66620:46
ubptgbot* dohbee kicks on the iron maiden20:47
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Right. I'm fine with FAT 32, this minor disadvantage aside.20:58
ubptgbot<mymike00> how can I reboot to bootloader a bq e4.5? the installer says power button and volume down, but it seems it doesn't work21:25
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> Does anybody have the old version of ut-filemanager, which controlled access to network and smb share with input user and password? Both versions of openstore filemanager doesn't work with these case.21:25
ubptgbot<Wiz> Fwd from UBports News Channel: Dalton Durst featured on Late Night Linux! … Our very own Dalton Durst has been featured on Late Night Linux Episode 38 talking about Ubuntu Touch, UBports, where the project is, and where we're going in the future! … Show your support for our beloved Dalton (@UniversalSuperBox) and go listen to the21:27
ubptgbotepisode on LateNightLinux.com (Episode 38) or on your favourite audiocatcher with this link! … https://latenightlinux.com/feed/mp3 … #Ubuntu #UbuntuTouch #UBports21:27
ubptgbot<Wiz> Gj durst!21:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Thanks! But in the future, please don't forward whole posts from the news channel. We put them over there because people started getting annoyed with announcements all the time. :)21:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] Thanks! But in the future, please don't forward whole posts from the news channel here. We put them over there because people started getting annoyed with announcements all the time. :)21:28
ubptgbot<Wiz> Yesyes21:36
ubptgbotjqhew was added by: jqhew21:40
ubptgbot<milkor73> @jqhew, Welcome Jq H !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed.21:52
ubptgbot<m_rio> How should I do that?  … 'adb reboot fastboot'? It just seems to boot into bootloader22:08
ubptgbot<m_rio> @mateosalta, How should I do that?  … 'adb reboot fastboot'? It just seems to boot into bootloader22:08
ubptgbot<m_rio> Alternatively: is it possible to flash ubports from TWRP?22:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> @m_rio, it is not. UT is not a standard android ROM22:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> @m_rio, yes, the bootloader is fastboot mode.22:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> on windows iirc you need the adb and fastboot drivers and tools installed, and you may need to run ubports-installer with admin privs22:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's best if you join @WelcomePlus for help with installer issues though22:12
ubptgbot<m_rio> @dohbee, I haven't tried with admin right yet. Thanks, will do22:15
ubptgbotAberts10 was added by: Aberts1022:35
ubptgbot<Aberts10> Hi22:35
ubptgbot<Aberts10> I'm thinking of getting a refurbished phone for running Ubport's Ubuntu touch...22:35
ubptgbot<Aberts10> https://www.amazon.com/LG-16GB-Quad-Core-Smartphone-Refurbished/dp/B017RMREL6/ Do you think this nexus model would work?22:36
ubptgbot<amolith> @Aberts10, It should work just fine! Welcome to the Supergroup! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started and feel free to ask any questions you may have (like the one you just asked) in here or in our Welcome & Install room! 🙂23:10
r0_hi23:16
r0_is it possible to install ubuntu touch on my galaxy s7?23:17
ubptgbot<Aberts10> r0_ i dont think so.23:24
r0_i youtube'd 'ubuntu touch on galaxy s7' and 1video says he did it with unified halium-boot and Ubports Xenial image. but i have no idea what that is..23:27

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