 It was one person working on a port. It's not been made into a generally installable build yet though
 Can you run python? Kind of confused as to how this works... is it using a unmodified mainline kernel?
 (For arm...)
 Is there repositories like in traditional Ubuntu? What kind of limits are there to the terminal?
[00:29] <r0_> im not too sure.
[00:30] <r0_> I don't think im gonna bother trying. unless theres another linux OS that works on a galaxy s7
 Check out postmarketos
 It's been compiled for s7, however it hasn't been tested
[00:36] <r0_> ill check it out -- thanks
[01:12] <r0_> what is a twrp?
 https://twrp.me/about/
[01:13] <r0_> kool kool thanks
 No problem. If you're looking to flash software which is not Ubuntu Touch on your device, the XDA Developers forum might be a better place to go.
[01:16] <r0_> thanks i'll check out their irc channel
 @Aberts10, Python isn't an officially supported development target for the SDK. But you can develop an app in most anything, as long as you build and ship everything inside the click package for the app.
 @Aberts10, it's not the same as a traditional linux system on a PC. the rootfs is read only. you can install legacy apps inside libertine though, or CLI stuff, and run it inside the container, from any standard repo for that version of ubuntu, with armhf debs.
 @dohbee, Actually there's a Clickable template and pyotherside is preinstalled now
 So the user has no access to root?
 Sure. You can use `sudo` whenever you want
 @Aberts10, user can run things as root with sudo, yes. but it's generally not advised
 But you can't use the apt package manager because the system image is read-only
 @UniversalSuperBox, oh, cool.
 So you can still modify the root file system with root though (not that i would need to)?
 the root filesystem is still readonly
 Ah, okay.
 Is this for security?
 You can remount it read-write but your changes will be overwritten on an update
 you can currently remount rw if you want, but it's strongly advised against
 yes it is for security
 But also it really fit in well with how Android did updates normally
 and due to how phones are partitioned and space limited
 It's like we're the same person
 So what's the status on Ubuntu touch 16.04?
 it's getting close
 So within a few months?
 i think the plan is to hopefully release ota 4 in a few weeks
 Oh wow
 Over the air update?
 yes
 Interesting. Though only cellular providers called updates that
 [Edit] Interesting. Thought only cellular providers called updates that
 I'll hopefully get a refurbished nexus 5 this week... Looking forward to 16.04!
 you can run 16.04 on it now if you want (but maybe not recommended just yet for a primary/daily phone)
 Yeah, i might try it, however i do plan on using ubuntu touch as my main driver, so i would prefer to get the most stable experience i can get... so for now i'll stick with 15.04
 I'm really suprised at the number of apps on ubuntu touch.
 The amount of popular ones is actually more than i could find a year ago on my old Nokia
 [Edit] The amount of popular ones is actually more than i could find a year ago on my old Nokia with windows 10 mobile
 While alot of them are web apps, it's still (imo) better than not having a app at all like Windows 10 mobile.
 Hoping ubuntu touch will deliver a better or similar experience to the nokia (which was 80$, but felt amazing with WP10)
 So you can use this command to stream video from your UT phone to your laptop. Does anyone have any idea what to modify/remove/add to pipe that into a video file without rendering it in mplayer? I might be wrong but I feel like the video quality would be better if it wasn't being rendered as well. I'm trying to take a screen recordi
[01:56] <ubptgbot> ng of UT to demo the UI and some of its amazing features. … `adb exec-out timeout 120 mirscreencast -m /run/mir_socket --stdout --cap-interval 2 -s 384 640 | mplayer -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo w=384:h=640:format=rgba -`
 use ffmpeg instead?
 So `. . . 384 640 | ffmpeg -options`?
 yeah
 Alright
 i don't know what the options are, but it seems like probably the best option for encoding the video to a file
 @dohbee, I'm sure. This is going to take a while . . .
 How much space does ubuntu touch use?
 ~2GiB for the system image iirc. but all of android is replaced with UT
 '
[03:05] <ubptgbot> nhaines was added by: nhaines
 ended up cancelling my order of the refurbed nexus 5
 Saw the order date was extended to up to two months
 and then i looked through the reviews and i'm glad i cancelled it.
 [Edit] and then i looked through the reviews again and i'm glad i cancelled it.
 This phone sounds like a horror story honestly
 [Edit] and then i looked through the reviews again and i'm glad i cancelled it. (it's a early production model, so top that off with the problems i may get if i'm unlucky... yikes)
 fairphone isn't a option either, as it's only EU it seems... And oneplus one is still hundreds (which, considering i may brick the phone loading ubuntu touch... ☹️
 @Aberts10, hundreds on eBay?
 i always avoid ebay... though your right, it is pretty cheap there... might just bite the bullet and get it from there
 Ebay buyer protection is pretty good..
 @dohbee, I found out that I can do this then just encode the raw file after I'm done. … `adb exec-out timeout 120 mirscreencast -m /run/mir_socket --stdout --cap-interval 2 -s 384 640 | tee filename`
[06:31] <ubptgbot> Huba was added by: Huba
 @Huba, Hi Huba, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @Aberts10, Depends on region though
 @Aberts10, Not offered in a popup. You have to go into updates as you don't get a notification
 @Aberts10, Tested and guaranteed is £120 in UK
 I mean the OnePlusOne
 Actually this question does not only affect the Raspberry Pi project, but UT in general: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1294/how-could-snappy-ubuntu-core-be-interesting-for-us
 I just stumbled over Snappy Ubuntu Core and it sounds like a very similar approach to UT.
 Couldn't we benefit from that?
 Not any more
 @Aberts10, Whats your carrier?
 @Flohack, My hands
 lol
[13:44] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Morning people..
 ..are annoying when you're not
 [Edit] ..are annoying when you're not one
 not being a people is not the life for everyone, indeed
 robots are pretty good at it though
 i think most people are not a people though
 @YougoChats, Zuckberg?
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I'm never a morning person. I'm more of a throat punch if someone talks to me before coffee kind of person. I just say it as a formality
 🤔 if all morning people would live on one side of the planet, and all evening people on the other, we'd all either be cheerful or groggy at the same time!
 there, problem solved
[14:00] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Or the planet would spin a 100x's the normal speed from all of the negative energy coming off of one side.
[14:01] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Then we'd all be thrown into space.  🙄
 nah, we'd be crushed
 and we'd invent a warp drive in the process
[14:01] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> LOL
[14:01] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> ok Picard..
 Please, move to OT. Thank you
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> What is OT..  Pretend I'm new here..
 Off-topic
 https://t.me/ubports_ot
 the place where actual conversation happens, becuase a few people think everything is OT
 lol @dohbee you're really Dr. No 😆
 and @ubports_ot is the island paradise, i guess
 :)
[14:04] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> After reading through all of the last months comments, I wasn't sure if we had an OT area. Will keep it there then.  LOL
[14:06] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Is it considered OT if I throw in a comment about Ubuntu every so often? Jk have a good morning everyone..  I'm out.
 today I updated my bq e4.5 to ut 16.04, but I was expecting 16.04 introduces more stuff to swipe from the left, in addition to the launcher, isn't it?
 no
 the app drawer is not in the 16.04 images yet
[14:19] <ubptgbot> Furnace McOven was added by: Furnace McOven
 @dohbee, oh, but is there already a code for it or just mock-ups?
 @mymike00, there is code for it, but it's incomplete and lacking some features
 👍🏻
 Welcome Furnace !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 Spoiler alert: my english is the worst. … I have some questions: what kind of apps run in ubuntu touch ? what his format or extension ? Apps like telegram, signal, whatsapp run ?
 @madruga92, Telegram yes, signal yes, whatsapp no
 UT is not android, so no you can't run arbitrary android apps (maybe in future in anbox, but will not be a full android experience there)
 native apps are generally qt/qml/c++/js mix
 can be sdl or other things too
 most "apps" in the store are webapps, which are confined browser instances for specific web sites
 A packet .deb can run ? … Or flatpak ?
 debs can be installed inside a libertine container
 i guess flatpaks could be used inside the container too
 the format for packages of apps in the store, is click
 UT have a terminal that i can execute basic commands like " sudo apt install application-name "
 @dohbee, Or outside too if they're not graphical
 [Edit] UT have a terminal that i can execute basic commands like " sudo apt install application-name " ?
 well in a chroot
 installing debs in rootfs is not supported (and rootfs is readonly)
 No, I meant in the terminal... At least that was true when it was on canonical
 it was no more true now than it is now. what i stated is how it's pretty much always been
 [Edit] it was no more true then than it is now. what i stated is how it's pretty much always been
 @madruga92, there is a terminal app yes. rootfs is readonly though, and apt is not supported in the rotofs. you can install debs in a libertine container
 Does the UT-FileManager support SFTP?
 Or only Samba?
 i don't know for sure, but it might not yet
[19:57] <sambagirl> good afternoon. i was playing around with a dell convertable and while i prefer mate as my windowing environment, its not very good with touch. i was just wondering what if anything you guys are working on that may be beta i can install?
 Hello Sambagirl. Unfortunately Ubuntu Touch is a very different type of thing, developed for phones. You can get some feel for it by installing Unity8 though
 Hey guys. After watching the last Q&A I switched from stable to devel on my Nexus 5 to see if I could be of any assistance searching for bugs. I have a question, though:
 Do I have to reflash daily to make sure I have the last version at all times?
 Yes
 Well, the updater works too
 @UniversalSuperBox, OK. Great! I thought that was only for stable. More convenient to use the updater.
 @Stereofont, convertible tablets with touch screens are very much a core target of why unity8 exists.
 @aribk, Whats your experience so far? I am afraid of the no mobile data bug
 @sambagirl, there isn't an image you can install, like on the supported android based phones/tablets, and unfortunately right now, unity8 is either not installable or usable on x86 builds, depending on which ubuntu lts you're on. hopefully this will be resolved soon though
 @Aberts10, it's not the best, but I'm doing daily driving on it and 'it works' although definitely it seems that LG can't make a really good phone.  but hey - my UT works on it so therefore it's the best phone for me! :)
 @Bolly, wait a sec.. i've seen Mr. McOven before here... hmm.
 anyone may leave and return as they please to do
 I have a bq m10 FHD tablet that I'm hoping to get some good use out of.  :)
 Although it seems my best bet is to install Libertine and never attach a mouse and just have a very nice LibreOffice tablet.
 widgets in libreoffice are going to be pretty small, so you'll probably want a mouse for that
 Yeah, but hooking up my mouse bounces Unity from staged mode to desktop mode rapidly until it crashes.
 usb mouse?
 Bluetooth mouse.
 Which I don't remember being the case on my Nexus 7.  Usually it'd let me get enough work done before it discarded it.  :)
 But keyboard shortcuts are life anyway.
 weird
 I might try to flash to a factory image for a few days.
 But since it didn't boot out of the box, UBports was my first stop.  Beautiful installer, and I really, really appreciate that it was available as a snap.
 Is there any kind of twitch app?