[00:00] <Two_Dogs> kevr: yeah, these days if the thing is not complete and working out of the box(iso) people figure they borked the d/l burn to media
[00:00] <kevr> gotcha
[00:01] <Two_Dogs> my guess
[00:01] <kevr> yeah, you're probably right :)
[00:01] <Two_Dogs> i dont know how one would do a live server
[00:01] <Two_Dogs> stare at terminal and do?
[00:01] <kevr> haha
[00:01] <kevr> i dont think its actually meant to be a live boot
[00:01] <kevr> its just called -live- for some reason
[00:01] <kevr> it has different installer features
[00:02] <kevr> github bootstrap, etc
[00:02] <kevr> which are btw, totally busted
[00:02] <sarcastico> idz
[00:02] <sarcastico> viu!
[00:02] <kevr> one attempt rendered my install completely busted until i figured out that it failed to generate real ssh keys
[00:02] <Two_Dogs> !pt sarcastico
[00:02] <kevr> after choosing 'Github' import and installing ssh
[00:03] <sarcastico> Two_Dogs: yes
[00:03] <sarcastico> Two_Dogs i´m brazilian!
[00:03] <Two_Dogs> sarcastico: language aki is english only, sff
[00:03] <sarcastico> Two_Dogs: sorry!
[00:03] <idz> Two_Dogs, hauahauaa
[00:03] <idz> language 'aki'
[00:03] <Two_Dogs> :)
[00:03] <idz> :P
[00:04] <sarcastico> :P
[00:18] <n-iCe> Guys, how can I give the correct permission to an external hdd to be able to recieve files like chromium downloads?
[00:18] <n-iCe> when I try to save it to my external HDD says insufficient permissions
[00:19] <xamithan> man chown
[00:19] <n-iCe> ok so I need to add my user to the drive?
[00:20] <n-iCe> like, sudo chown -R yourusername: /media/mountpoint
[00:20] <n-iCe> is the external hdd will be always the same /media/mountpoint?
[00:21] <xamithan> If it is in the same port I believe so
[00:22] <n-iCe> hope so, thing is I installed a 240GB laptop SSD did not want to waste my hdd, so I bought an adapter and maked it an external drive.
[00:22] <n-iCe> Hope the idea works.
[00:22] <n-iCe> xamithan: no, command did not work
[00:23] <n-iCe> used: sudo chown -R user: /dev/sdb
[00:23] <xamithan> sdb is the partition not the file system
[00:24] <n-iCe> right
[00:24] <n-iCe> /media/user/4ebe325b-dfbb-4c10-9b6d-122ef17ef421
[00:24] <n-iCe> right?
[00:24] <oerheks> if it is mounted under media, sounds like fat32 or ntfs
[00:24] <n-iCe> yeah baby
[00:24] <n-iCe> worked
[00:25] <n-iCe> iti s ext4
[00:25] <matjam> sdb is the block device
[00:25] <n-iCe> worked, worked.
[00:25] <n-iCe> thanks!
[00:25] <xamithan> Er yeah block device,  if it had a number it'd be a partition
[00:25] <n-iCe> Now, ssd only for OS, external HDD for files, is it clever?
[00:26] <matjam> which is an abstraction to a block device that has the size of the partition
[00:26] <matjam> if it works for you, sure
[00:26] <matjam> just don't lose the external hdd
[00:26] <matjam> deja dup can do encrypted backups
[00:27] <n-iCe> laptop is always at home :p
[00:27] <n-iCe> in my 32" sony bravia display
[00:27] <matjam> I backup my stuff to a nas and encrypt it just in case
[00:27] <xamithan> I'd do it as an NFS mount hooked up to my router
[00:27] <n-iCe> I don't realle move the laptop that often
[00:27] <n-iCe> really*
[00:27] <n-iCe> matjam: xamithan may I ask with DE are you using in Ubuntu?
[00:28] <xamithan> xfce
[00:28] <n-iCe> I'm in lxde, was thinking in xfce too
[00:28] <matjam> I just use default gnome but I configure it with a bunch of themes and stuff to make it look less stock
[00:29] <matjam> mainly because I need to use gnome online accounts with evolution so I can access the corporate exchange server running in office365 and I found that none of the alternative flavors of ubuntu worked with GOA
[00:30] <xamithan> You can use evolution and gnome-keyring in xfce
[00:31] <matjam> I should explain; I used Xubuntu
[00:31] <matjam> and GOA definitely did not work, and GOA is not gnome-keyring
[00:31] <matjam> evolution-ews is only configurable via gnome-online-accounts so if that doesn't work out of the box I wasn't keen on trying to figure out how to make it work.
[00:32] <n-iCe> oh I see
[00:32] <n-iCe> I like lubuntu
[00:32] <matjam> the other reason to stick with stock ubuntu, is that the ubuntu guys spend more time testing things in that, so it's more likely to work properly
[00:33] <matjam> lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu MATE, etc they are all good variants, but I feel they receive less testing
[00:33] <matjam> I don't know if that's fair or true
[00:35] <n-iCe> Don't think so
[00:35] <n-iCe> I think is the same, the only different thing is the DE, isn't?
[00:35] <n-iCe> I installed using the minimal.iso
[00:35] <mattfly> hi
[00:36] <xamithan> Under the hood it gets all the same testing.  and those other DEs change a lot less than gnome
[00:36] <mattfly> im getting keyserver receive failed: Connection closed in DNS
[00:36] <mattfly> while trying to run apt-key adv
[00:36] <mattfly> on ubuntu bionic
[00:36] <matjam> each installer does some things specific to the DE, differently I think, even though the packages are the same, there's differences than if you just install the DE, you end up with leftovers from your other DEs etc.
[00:36] <matjam> mattfly: can you copy paste your entire command and the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:37] <mattfly> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 33D40BC6
[00:37] <Two_Dogs> matjam: you can purge out the leftovers mostly
[00:37] <mattfly> the output is simply: Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.SYEhkPMoQd/gpg.1.sh --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 33D40BC6
[00:37] <mattfly> gpg: keyserver receive failed: Connection closed in DNS
[00:39] <matjam> https://u.teknik.io/EyfAh.png is what I am working with at the moment
[00:39] <matjam> I'm comfy
[00:40] <oerheks> rodeo repo .. maybe this mint answer is any  help, recent post 2018 .. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=261102#p1411253
[00:41] <oerheks> this line only.. sudo add-apt-repository "deb [arch=amd64] http://rodeo-deb.yhat.com/ rodeo main"
[00:42] <matjam> oerheks: what are you trying to do?
[00:42] <xamithan> Think he was trying to answer the guy that left
[00:43] <oerheks> oh, didn't notice that
[00:43] <matjam> guy did not use the paste server
[00:43] <xamithan> I was going to ask if his DNS was working or if he tried another keyserver
[00:44] <matjam> there's a fair bet that its a dns problem, yeah
[00:44] <matjam> but we'll never know
[00:46] <Two_Dogs> if the issue was dns how did he manage to get here?
[00:48] <xamithan> He was in brazil so who knows what DNS server was using and if it had missing records
[00:48] <matjam> a lot of them use 1.1.1.1 etc to get around ISP stuff
[00:48] <matjam> and then the ISP blocks it
[00:48] <matjam> :P
[00:48] <xamithan> Could also be using another system or ssh'd into a server
[00:51] <Battle> can anyone recommend a good guide to follow with regards to installing a mail server on ubuntu 16.04. one that covers spam blocking also
[00:51] <Battle> matjam: I finally m anaged to get the networking/kvm sorted
[00:51] <matjam> Battle: oh, good
[00:52] <xamithan> If you find a good spam blocking guide let all of us know.
[00:52] <xamithan> There is plenty of postfix|dovecot setup guides out there though
[00:52] <matjam> almost too many
[00:53] <matjam> I'm a fan of Exim, but that's just me.
[00:53] <Battle> xamithan: I know, spam is a pain in the ass. i just wonder how the likes of hotmail and these other big time mail providers do it. I get relatively 0 spam on hotmail across all my accounts, yet my own private mail server gets a crapton =s
[00:54] <oerheks> a good guide .. https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/serverguide/email-services.html  still needs 24/7 monitoring
[00:54] <Battle> I did find 1 way to block 99% of spam, however it also blocked legit mails on occasion too.... it was checking for invalid hostnames being specified by the sender
[00:54] <xamithan> Because they have full time staff that does nothing but analyze logs and write blocks and signature
[00:54] <matjam> this will help https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsingRazor
[00:55] <matjam> also, recommend using grey listing
[00:55] <Battle> thanks
[00:55] <Battle> whats greylisting ?
[00:55] <xamithan> greylisting is godly
[00:55] <matjam> you reject email from any sender initially
[00:55] <matjam> and if they send again, then you let it through
[00:56] <matjam> most spammers don't try twice
[00:56] <Battle> I see
[00:56] <Two_Dogs> my dear mother would think me rude if i did that
[00:58] <matjam> well she should be whitelisted :P
[00:58] <matjam> you can even do it with a tempfail
[00:58] <Two_Dogs> you make wise point
[00:58] <matjam> and let the sending MTA queue it and retry
[00:58] <matjam> she wouldn't see anything then
[00:58] <matjam> thats still pretty effective
[00:59] <[itchyjunk]> hey i am following this: https://www.tensorflow.org/install/install_linux
[00:59] <matjam> Battle: is this a personal mail platform or is it for an organisation
[00:59] <[itchyjunk]> i get this: E: Unable to locate package cuda-command-line-tools
[00:59] <[itchyjunk]> i think it's called something else now?
[00:59] <Battle> personal
[01:00] <matjam> [itchyjunk]: are you installing on the Ubuntu for Windows 10 thing?
[01:01] <matjam> AKA windows subsystem for Linux
[01:01] <[itchyjunk]> windows 10 thing? i'm on ubuntu
[01:01] <matjam> oh I got thrown by the E: thing
[01:01] <Two_Dogs> https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/16214 [itchyjunk]
[01:01] <matjam> must mean "Error"
[01:01] <[itchyjunk]> thats what apt-get returns for error?
[01:02] <xamithan> I don't think it is in the repos. nvidia has a repo though for it
[01:02] <Two_Dogs> [itchyjunk]: where would that package be found if not in default repos?
[01:03] <Two_Dogs> yeah, the cuda repo
[01:03] <[itchyjunk]> hmm, not sure :s
[01:03] <xamithan> There is an nvidia repo in that link you gave us [itchyjunk]
[01:03] <xamithan> Just use that
[01:03] <[itchyjunk]> okay, let me try
[01:04] <[itchyjunk]> oh the optional part okay
[01:04] <xamithan> Yeah it is somewhere different though.  I think: http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1604/x86_64/
[01:05] <xamithan> That guide says 16.04 and up but lists the 1404 repo,  weird
[01:16] <[itchyjunk]> i'm supposed to add a path in .bashrc to fix of of the errors to cuda but i can't find it in /usr/local/ :< https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42013316/after-building-tensorflow-from-source-seeing-libcudart-so-and-libcudnn-errors
[01:27] <guiverc> [itchyjunk], .bashrc is in $HOME (your home directory) - i haven't opened your link; but why look for it in /usr/local (do you have many users?)
[01:28] <[itchyjunk]> no, only 1 user
[01:28] <[itchyjunk]> no i was looking for cuda installation
[01:28] <guiverc> only single user I'd suggest ~/.bashrc
[01:29] <nacc> [itchyjunk]: we don't know where you installed cuda to
[01:30] <nacc> [itchyjunk]: the path you would put in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH depends on that
[01:49] <hotbobby> how can i get a newer version of network-manager through dpkg with this site https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager
[01:49] <hotbobby> i need to make use of a feature in networkmanager 1.4 but ubuntu 16.04 installs 1.2 by default
[01:55] <hggdh> hotbobby: you can (1) search in LP if a PPA has it for 16.04; (2) download the source code, and build your own package (and all necessary pre- and co-reqs)
[01:57] <arooni> anyway to get battery countdown time?
[01:59] <hotbobby> is there any way to automate the building process?
[01:59] <hotbobby> to do each dependency would take a very long time
[02:02] <hotbobby> arooni: maybe upower can do it
[02:03] <arooni> apparently on 18.04 theres no more time stimates
[02:04] <arooni> thatll get me the results on command line
[02:06] <oerheks> neither windows10 nor iOS give that time, % is more accurate and usefull
[02:15] <arooni> really?  regardless i like the countdown timer
[02:15] <arooni> gives me a rough estimates
[02:16] <oerheks> you will find years of discussions, about how to calculate the remaining time, which is not true and gives false advertisements, so by design it is %
[02:17] <oerheks> there might be a gnome extention..
[02:17] <guiverc> hotbobby, 1.2.6 is the only tested & supported version for xenial (16.04) on that site.  as i understand it nm high in the stack & thus needs to match kernel/libudev api/abi's (note: i'm a user so have no special knowledge).  you could still download .deb but it could have lots of deps & issues & would not be recommended (https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/network-manager)
[02:17] <guiverc> sorry for last - my window had paused & i hadn't noticed the lateness & out-of-dateness of my blah..
[02:18] <oerheks> dconf gives no option AFAIK
[02:23] <Sircle> is there any modern broswer other than firfox and chrom?
[02:24] <hotbobby> lynx :)
[02:25] <oerheks> "modern" ..?
[02:25] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsers
[02:28] <plasm0duck> how do I install wayland and get it working?
[02:29] <oerheks> with 18.04 you will get wayland too but Xorg is standard, logout, change, login again
[02:33] <plasm0duck> 4.13.0-43-generic #48~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 17 12:56:46 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:33] <plasm0duck> can I install wayland on this version
[02:34] <arooni>  so when you login to 'ubuntu' are you using wayland or xxorg
[02:34] <plasm0duck> xorg
[02:35] <plasm0duck> I think im on 16.04
[02:35] <plasm0duck> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[02:36] <plasm0duck> Quad-Core Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz, NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] (rev a1), 8.1 GB memory, 512 GB SSD storage
[02:36] <oerheks> maybe if tou install gnome-session-wayland , 16.10 was the 1st version with wayland session
[02:37] <oerheks> oh, nvidia and wayland, you will need to remove nvidia drivers AFAIK
[02:37] <oerheks> you better upgrade to 18.04 then
[02:38] <plasm0duck> Oh really? The nvidia drivers don't work with Wayland?
[02:38] <plasm0duck> I don't think I can, I'm using ElementaryOS wich is built with Ubuntu 16.04 :/
[02:39] <oerheks> well, good luck then
[02:41] <Sircle> is there any modern broswer other than firfox and chrom?
[02:42] <guiverc> Sircle, did you look at the link provided by oerheks earlier?
[02:42] <gfdshbv> #sdrrtl
[02:42] <gfdshbv> oops
[02:43] <Sircle> ok
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !browsers | Sircle
[02:49] <Sircle> thx
[02:50] <Sircle> guiverc,  oerheks Bashing-om any recommendations after fireforx and chrome?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Sircle: Depends on what you need/want, light and fast I liked elinks .
[02:54] <Sircle> Bashing-om,  elinks or link2?
[02:55] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elinks
[02:55] <oerheks> lolz
[02:55] <Sircle> k
[02:55]  * Sircle wonders whats a text based browser
[02:55] <oerheks> and no, i give no recommendations, use the one you like
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Sircle: ' apt show elinks ; apt show links2 ' ,
[02:58] <gfdshbv> we should use gopher instead of browsers
[03:04] <gfdshbv> hi consonants capitalised and vowels lowersace
[03:07] <Sircle> how do I start link 2. Its not a UI browser?
[03:09] <BaKKaR> Sircle: you mean it has no GUI?
[03:11] <Sircle> yes
[03:12] <BaKKaR> Sircle: i think you are referring to the terminal browser
[03:12] <gfdshbv> likely
[03:12] <BaKKaR> it can me launched from your terminal emulator
[03:13] <gfdshbv> bAkkAr is how your name looks when i typ it with caps lock on
[03:13] <BaKKaR> konsole for example if you r on kde
[03:13] <BaKKaR> gfdshbv: yeah, at least  took 2 seconds to type a name *winks*
[03:14] <gfdshbv> i boycotted vowels
[03:14] <gfdshbv> our operating system is also known as bnt
[03:15] <DouglasK> After the last kernel update (4.0.15.0-22), my wifi doesn't work (Broadcom BCM4352).. ideas?
[03:15] <Sircle> BaKKaR,  lauchned but no controls/butons
[03:15] <DouglasK> Boot into the previous kernel and it works fine
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | DouglasK
[03:16] <cfhowlett> and yes, try the previous kernel
[03:16] <BaKKaR> Sircle: yes, this is a terminal emulator. it has no buttons. Use command Keys
[03:16] <DouglasK> cfhowlett, that's how I'm here... previous kernel works...new one fails.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> DouglasK, you might try manually installing as per the link I sent.  (Should not be necessary, but ...)
[03:17] <Sircle> BaKKaR,  which command key to use to go to some website ?
[03:17] <BaKKaR> Sircle: i suggest you read the man pages or use the help from within links3
[03:17] <BaKKaR> links2*
[03:17] <DouglasK> I'll download the page and packages for offline, try a reconfig on the new kernel package, then boot to the new kernel and try it.
[03:18] <BaKKaR> i dont have it now and did not use it for a ong time, so sorry cant really recall the keys
[03:18] <cfhowlett> DouglasK, I see the BCM 4352 listed. I have used the STA no internet access method successfully.  It DOES require an ubuntu USB, but I'm sure you have one handy, yes?
[03:19] <Sircle> BaKKaR,  for now, can you let me know how to open a webpage
[03:19] <BaKKaR> i think you press the O
[03:19] <BaKKaR> not sure
[03:19] <DouglasK> I'll make sure to have one handy.
[03:19] <BaKKaR> !google
[03:20] <theorem> hmm
[03:20] <theorem> I have an old 32bit system
[03:20] <BaKKaR> !google links2 browser
[03:20] <theorem> I'd like to update it
[03:20] <cfhowlett> theorem, what ubuntu version?
[03:21] <theorem> cfhowlett: VERSION="16.04.3 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"
[03:22] <theorem> cfhowlett: I have a long list of packages to update
[03:22] <cfhowlett> theorem, 16.04 is supported until 2021.  An
[03:22] <cfhowlett> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[03:22] <dixon> I am having problems installing ubuntu MATE onto my laptop. I have tried the isos from the website, and a few different installers (yumi etc). The laptop has 2gb ram, 8gb harddrive, and a 2.0 ghz processor. Regardless of the installation medium, the laptop screen freezes after a few moments during mate installation
[03:23] <dixon> Sorry forgot to mention I'm using a USB stick to install
[03:23] <cfhowlett> 2 gb is technically possible but will be very slow, dixon
[03:23] <theorem> cfhowlett: https://pastebin.com/5rrup7v7
[03:24] <theorem> cfhowlett: seems like an upgrade should work, right ??
[03:24] <phocking> dixon: i would use a much smaller linux distro like dsl or slitaz
[03:24] <cfhowlett> theorem, try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:24] <dixon> @cfhowlett, do you have any recommendations? I am simply looking for a word processor I can use
[03:24] <dixon> @phocking thank you
[03:24] <theorem> cfhowlett: looks dangerous ..
[03:24] <cfhowlett> your options are limited and the packages to be forced are listed.
[03:25] <phocking> slitaz is my personal favorite, but it has a bit of a learning curve
[03:25] <cfhowlett> dixon, libreoffice word?
[03:25] <dixon> yes
[03:25] <theorem> cfhowlett: the packages are crucial to every binary in the system -- libstdc is used by most C++ apps on the system, I would wager the kernel too.
[03:25] <phocking> their rolling distro is 43MiB right now
[03:26] <dixon> I meant an operating system to use libreoffice on
[03:26] <dixon> thank you for the suggestions
[03:26] <cfhowlett> dixon, libreoffice works on all major OS's
[03:26] <xtuh> Hello, need some assistance with mdadm / fstab . i have 18.04 server, sda for system, sdb and scd as raid0 md0 device. the first problem is after reboot md0 became md127, is it ok? or i need start over?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !server | xtuh might want to inquire of the server channel ...
[03:44] <DouglasK> cfhowlett, I think I may have found the problem.  build 22 of the kernel is not installing properly.. it's waiting on triggers for linux-update-4.15.0-22-generic, but that package isn't listed in apt.
[03:44] <cfhowlett> that would certainly do it.  GREAT detective work!!@
[03:45] <DouglasK> Thanks.  I was just too lazy to manually install the modules. :P
[03:45] <cfhowlett> from such humble motives >>> inspiration!
[03:45] <DouglasK> So, for now I'll just use the -20 release and be happy.. wait for the next kernel release.
[03:51] <xtuh> cfhowlett: i think mdadm works the same way in both versions
[04:08] <pestkey> why did ubuntu spill the beans
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> pestkey: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:10] <pestkey> what is better ubuntu or manjaro
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> pestkey: we dont take polls and dont support manjaro mate
[04:42] <bruno> hola
[04:43] <Two_Dogs> hola
[04:44] <Guest56694> que honda
[04:46] <Guest56694> de donde son
[04:47] <oerheks> slagroomsoesje
[04:47] <oerheks> oh wait, this is english only
[04:47] <Bashing-om> !es | Guest56694
[04:50] <Guest56694> bueno
[05:27] <usr123> Hello, I am new to ubuntu and linux. I see windows machine on my wireless network have no internet issues at all and go upto 20Mbps. However, all ubuntu machines have trouble even opening webpages and don't go beyond 0.5Mbps. Also Speedtest shows Latency Error most times. I am using ubuntu 16.04
[05:44] <unknown-os> usr123: what drive you use?
[05:45] <unknown-os> usr123: lsmod |grep iw
[05:50] <usr123> unknown-os: I did not get a result with that command. But does this help http://termbin.com/mfvj  ??
[05:50] <mojtaba> Hello, I am having problem printing with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (I have a HP LaserJet 1020).
[05:50] <mojtaba> I am using CUPS, it shows job completed, but it does not print it.
[05:53] <Two_Dogs> mojtaba: no errors shown?
[05:53] <mojtaba> Two_Dogs: Where should I look for it?
[05:53] <barnex> Hey, so I've been running a 3 monitor setup with nvidia and it worked fine for a very long time. I just restarted X and everything seems dead. Arandr only sees one output, nvidia-settings are empty-ish.
[05:53] <mojtaba> I am checking the CUPS web interface, and there is no error shown there.
[05:54] <barnex> seems like I still have nvidia_uvm, nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset and nvidia modules loaded
[05:54] <barnex> any idea what's up?
[05:54] <Two_Dogs> mojtaba: does interface show 'errors' menu
[05:54] <mojtaba> Two_Dogs: no
[05:54] <Two_Dogs> mojtaba: otherwise look in this folder /var/log/cups
[05:55] <barnex> Also everything display related is super slow.
[05:55] <mojtaba> Two_Dogs: This is the error_log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vbN6X2Q6NG/
[05:57] <mojtaba> Two_Dogs: Any idea?
[05:58] <Two_Dogs> mojtaba: i have not looked, perhaps someone here knows cups issues, if not try channel #cups
[05:58] <mojtaba> Two_Dogs: Thanks
[06:07] <neildugan> I have setup a server using the 'ubuntu-server' meta package... I am trying to get netplan to create a bridge with a static IP... the method used in every doc. I have found doesn't seem to work... can anyone help here.
[06:10] <EriC^^> neildugan: try in #ubuntu-server maybe?
[06:11] <EriC^^> if nobody knows here they might know there
[06:14] <neildugan> #join #ubuntu-server
[06:15] <Two_Dogs> neildugan: /join #channel
[06:15] <barnex> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fytH9y5VyY/ anybody has any idea what are those dpkg errors about?
[06:15] <barnex> lines 86+
[06:15] <neildugan> Two_Dogs, thanks,  that was a typing mistake
[06:15] <Two_Dogs> neildugan: cool
[06:19] <barnex> back, sorry
[06:23] <mouses> barnex: maybe something here that will help?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/969352/uninstalling-and-then-reinstalling-nvidia-384-kills-colord
[06:23] <barnex> mouses: thanks
[06:24] <barnex> it actually sort of works now, but I still am worried about those dpkg errors and seems there are some issues starting nvidia-persistenced, but I'll google for that some first
[06:24] <Two_Dogs> barnex: is nvidia working correctly?
[06:24] <barnex> sort of
[06:25] <barnex> dunno where to look for specifics
[06:25] <barnex> but I blacklisted noveau and it's better
[06:25] <Two_Dogs> if you cant point to an issue then its working
[06:26] <barnex> :-)
[06:26] <barnex> yeah I'll just see what's the nvidia-persistance is about and if I need it and it's probably fine to last till it explodes
[06:26] <barnex> thanks
[06:53] <momomo> Don't block me. One line. Looking for a Linux Sysadmin in Europe, for a great job oppurtonity in Stockholm city. Well payed, permanent / temporary (based on your preference). Immediate Accommodation. One crux, has to also know Elastic Search. Need to be filled immediately.
[06:54] <mouses> momomo: might want to try upwork.com
[06:54] <mouses> you'll get far better results than asking in random IRC channels, which seems really shady
[06:54] <cfhowlett> momomo, yeah, not the place for this really.
[06:55] <Guest75177> exit
[07:07] <tnewman> hey guise, what happened to the 'auto-apt' package in 18.04?
[07:07] <tnewman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[07:07] <tnewman> saying that package can't be found :<
[07:07] <tnewman> in bionic
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !info auto-apt
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: ubuntu 16.04 has it, seems like they removed it from the repo
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: perhaps tell us your end goal, volunteers might know an alternative?
[07:11] <tnewman> well the ULTIMATE MEGA GOAL would be to create a nginx with mod_pagespeed baked in that IS ALSO somehow compatible with other nginx packages in the ubuntu repos
[07:12] <tnewman> i did manage a deb that has vanilla nginx with modpagespeed on a xenial machine
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: you mean you compile nginx yourself?
[07:13] <tnewman> https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/nginx/build-nginx-with-pagespeed-from-source/
[07:13] <tnewman> it does work
[07:13] <tnewman> miraculously enough
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: well we dont really reccomend compiling packages, but use the existing ones from official repos, backports or snaps
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: if you find something not working on a package, consider reporting a new !bug?
[07:14] <tnewman> i dont recommend compiling packages either
[07:14] <tnewman> but if you want mod_pagespeed with nginx, thats your only option
[07:15] <tnewman> apache has a repo with the pagespeed stuff, but nginx requires recompilation
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: this tut says you can download mod seperatly https://www.tecmint.com/install-mod_pagespeed-to-boost-apache-nginx-performance/
[07:24] <tnewman> fiddlin with it now
[07:26] <chendur> My ubuntu 18.04 installation hangs after netfiler
[07:27] <chendur> My ubuntu 18.04 installation hangs after netfilter core team
[07:28] <chendur> My ubuntu 18.04 installation hangs after ip_tables: netfilter core team
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !patience | chendur
[07:29] <chendur> ok
[07:29] <EriC^^> getting more and more detailed by the sentence :D
[07:29] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, aka "dropping cookie crumbs" ...
[07:30] <EriC^^> :D
[07:31] <tnewman> https://www.tecmint.com/install-mod_pagespeed-to-boost-apache-nginx-performance/ no workie
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: did you restart?
[07:31] <tnewman> you do get a module, but nginx isnt happy with /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_pagespeed.so
[07:32] <tnewman> the module that comes in that .deb is made for apache, not nginx
[07:32] <tnewman> which is something that guide doesnt seem to have any knowledge of
[07:32] <tnewman> or things were different when that tutorial was originally made
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: tutorial mentiones something about the nginx dir, did you read that part
[07:33] <tnewman> Important: In Nginx the configuration files of mod_pagespeed typically found under /usr/local/nginx/conf/ directory.
[07:33] <tnewman> its not there
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: ive seen a bug about wishlist adding pagespeed to nginx-extras not sure if it does..
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: if i was you, i would checkout nginx channel and file a new bug if you dont find it
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: seems like a pretty nice module to have right?
[07:36] <tnewman> nginx packaging channel?
[07:36] <tnewman> its an awesome module to have
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: no, ask first in nginx channel if they know a work around
[07:36] <tnewman> i think i talked to them about it before
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: if they dont, try an official ubuntu-bug nginx
[07:36] <tnewman> i think they punted me to packaging
[07:37] <tnewman> hmm
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: dont you have to load the module or so like here? https://www.nginx.com/blog/optimize-website-google-pagespeed-dynamic-module-nginx-plus/
[07:39] <tnewman> it is possible to create an pagespeed module yes
[07:40] <michael2> hi, does anyone know why the `sar -r' command is producing output - for kb used - like: 19052835702308865 ? I know the system doesn't have that much memory!
[07:40] <tnewman> but the resulting .so file is not compatible with the nginx from the stock repos
[07:40] <tnewman> stock repo nginx wont start with pagespeed .so
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: thats exactly why i would file a bug for it
[07:41] <tnewman> hmm
[07:41] <tnewman> on the nginx side or the pagespeed side
[07:41] <tnewman> if this is a bug, who's responsible for fixing it?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: as your on ubuntu, on the nginx package version from ubuntu repos, for your ubuntu version
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !info nginx bionic
[07:43] <tnewman> hmm
[07:44] <tnewman> in my expewrience #nginx on freenode is a support channel
[07:44] <tnewman> distro agnostic
[07:45] <tnewman> but yes ok bugs
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: when you file a bug on ubuntu, developers from nginx also see the report
[07:45] <tnewman> ah
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: a module should be able to load on every nginx, logically no?
[07:46] <tnewman> weeeeeeeeell
[07:48] <tnewman> the thing that i saw before was something like
[07:49] <tnewman> the nginx that was used to create ngx_pagespeed needs to be compiled in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY as whatever nginx the module is going to be used with
[07:49] <tnewman> also im a noob when it comes to compilation anyway so theres a big possibility i'm borking something
[07:51] <tnewman> they allude to it here a bit in https://www.nginx.com/blog/optimize-website-google-pagespeed-dynamic-module-nginx-plus/ "The build environment must have the same operating system and version as the production environment"
[07:51] <tnewman> i mean i can give it a shot again, making the module and using it with stock repo nginx
[07:52] <quackgyver> I'm currently troubleshooting the second brand new laptop that I can't seem to install Ubuntu on (Asus Vivobook E12). I got some troubleshooting help here yesterday to no avail - more specifically regarding trying to set acpi_osi. The issue I'm having is that Live CD is somewhat buggy when running, and the installer always either blackscreens on boot, during install or it's visible but freezes at any point between 20-80%.
[07:52] <quackgyver> Any ideas?
[07:52] <quackgyver> I'm not even sure if I'll be able to return it, but if I do I'm probably not gonna try to get a third laptop
[07:52] <quackgyver> So can someone please help me?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: if nobody ever complains about it on a bug, nothing will ever happen, be the first to help the community :p
[07:57] <tnewman> lol lets give it a whirl
[07:58] <guiverc> quackgyver, i can't help sorry (heading out to dinner), but you could try another version (eg. if you tried 18.04; try 16.04 or 14.04); then post-install (if that is better), you could try upgrading it to later versions (i do this when I can't find install media or blank usb but know where older releases are)
[07:58] <quackgyver> guiverc: Alright, I'll try doing that. Thanks for the suggestion.
[08:02] <tnewman> thats weird
[08:03] <tnewman> so the version number of nginx in the repo is 1.14
[08:03] <tnewman> neeevermind
[08:03] <tnewman> i got it
[08:03] <tnewman> sec
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: yeah thats bionics nginx version
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: feel free to share bug url after
[08:16] <tnewman> lotuspsychje: https://gist.github.com/travnewmatic/8d2982e14ed1388e8f4032af18df78f0
[08:16] <tnewman> this is where things get messy
[08:19] <afidegnum> hello good morning, my Terminal colour just changed to white i don't understand why, here is my bashrc http://termbin.com/5tww
[08:20] <EriC^^> afidegnum: maybe this is it? source /root/.drush/drush.prompt.sh
[08:20] <fishcooker> why we should do manual partition on raid 1 ubuntu server installation?
[08:20] <fishcooker> just like mdadm --create /dev/md0 --metadata 1.0 --raid-devices=2 --level=1 /dev/sd[ab]1  mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/md0
[08:20] <fishcooker> *#mdadm --create /dev/md0 --metadata 1.0 --raid-devices=2 --level=1 /dev/sd[ab]1  mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/md0
[08:25] <amosbird> Hi, is it possible to set system proxy for terminals ?
[08:28] <EriC^^> amosbird: yes, https://askubuntu.com/questions/583797/how-to-set-a-proxy-for-terminal
[08:28] <amosbird> well..
[08:28] <amosbird> that's not the system's proxy
[08:28] <amosbird> https://la.wentropy.com/OcJI.png
[08:29] <oerheks> 'system proxy'.. why do you want to set it for terminal, as it should work already incl. terminal?
[08:33] <Khaotic> if you are unfamiliar withe tmux, i highly recommend you use
[08:36] <Two_Dogs> this reminds me of 'xmetal', he is infamous for third-person chat, please continue
[08:38] <Two_Dogs> amosbird: btw, EriC^^ link is an example, you change it to what ever the proxy is, i am sure 0.0.0.0 will work
[08:55] <coolternet> hello everyone
[08:55] <coolternet> Anyone know where can i buy an original copy DVD of Ubuntu ?
[08:58] <SwedeMike> coolternet: why do you want to do this?
[09:00] <coolternet> because i want a original copie on media DVD
[09:02] <oerheks> http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/
[09:02] <rpittau> coolternet: this could be the right place https://shop.ubuntu.com/ although I think they don't sell dvd anymore but usb sticks
[09:03] <oerheks> or find a local community member, they might have them in stock
[09:03] <oerheks> most of us just burn a dvd
[09:04] <rpittau> I hope must of us just do a usb bootable key :D
[09:05] <Friberg> What is the preferred way for installing updates in Ubuntu LTS? Our customer wants to stage updates in different environments, we thought this was possible with Landscape.. Isn't it?
[09:07] <root_> hey
[09:08] <oerheks> landscape uses upgrade profiles https://landscape.canonical.com/static/doc/user-guide/ch06.html#idm46055118936080
[09:08] <oerheks> !rootirc
[09:11] <mouses> Guest1328: for the love of all that is GNU, don't IRC as root :)
[09:11] <mouses> Guest1328: create a user account and give it sudo permissions, only escalate perms when needed
[09:14] <Friberg> oerheks: But update profile is just glorified cron? And it doesn't use staging (like putting changes to one environment one day, then a week later putting the SAME patches to another environment)?
[09:14] <zprd> hi, in Calendar I have a shared google ics file I would like to remove, but cannot find a way to remove it, not in the accounts manager
[09:14] <zprd> any hint on the matter?
[09:16] <mouses> zprd: drive.google.com it's probably there
[09:18] <darkSeid> hi, not sure if this is the right place for it but i've got ubuntu running on a server and im having some issues
[09:18] <EriC^^> !details | darkSeid
[09:20] <zprd> mouses: no more creds to that old  account
[09:21] <darkSeid> i can get onto the server using ssh just fine (using digital ocean) by `doing ssh -i ~/.ssh/example root@myIPaddress`. however i can't log in with another user. So i just created a user `adduser $USERNAME` and add that user to sudo group `usermod -aG sudo $USERNAME` but now when i try to ssh onto the server as that user, i get `Permission denied (publickey).`
[09:21] <mouses> zprd: 99.99% sure the only way you're going to be able to remove a document shared with others via google is going to be by being able to log into that google account
[09:21] <zprd> I had an old ics that I remove using the calendar manager in Calendar itself, but this one dones not have a remove button
[09:22] <zprd> stuck with it then
[09:22] <zprd> now I have popups prompting for password I don't have anymore, avery 10mn or so
[09:22] <mouses> icky
[09:23] <darkSeid> this is literally the first time i've ever tried doing anything like this so I'm sure I've just messed up somewhere obvious and not realised
[09:24] <darkSeid> am i right in thinking that up to this point, i _should_ be able to log into my server with the new user i created using a password and not ssh
[09:25] <tnewman> that dang lotuspsychje dude left
[09:25] <tnewman> fiddlesticks
[09:25] <mouses> darkSeid: drop the -i if you want to use a password
[09:25] <EriC^^> darkSeid: there's public key authentication and password authentication, if you have password authentication enabled you should be able to just type the password you set and log in
[09:25] <mouses> darkSeid: -i means use identity file
[09:25] <mouses> darkSeid: try ssh -l username ip.address
[09:26] <EriC^^> darkSeid: what does "grep PasswordAuthentication /etc/ssh/sshd_config" give on the server?
[09:26] <widon> Where can I report a bug of enca?
[09:26] <EriC^^> !bugs | widon
[09:27] <darkSeid> EriC^^ it gives... nothing?
[09:28] <darkSeid> terminal crashed ffs
[09:28] <darkSeid> ok
[09:28] <EriC^^> darkSeid: do you want to login using public key or password?
[09:28] <darkSeid> PasswordAuthentication no
[09:28] <darkSeid> well, i was expecting to be able to log in using password which is why i wanted to know where i was going wrong
[09:28] <darkSeid> im going to eventually set it up using public key
[09:29] <EriC^^> darkSeid: ok, set it to "Yes" then sudo service ssh restart
[09:30] <darkSeid> alrighty, ty
[09:30] <EriC^^> np
[09:33] <nikolam> Do I really need to download and install Nvidia driver for graphics card from Nvidia site, to have working OpenCl? (old 9800GT), or I can make it work somehow with existing Nvidia binary driver that is shipped with Ubuntu?
[09:34] <nikolam> I compiled an OpenCL example and it says it can't load kernel, also LiberOffice seems not to be able to utalize OpenCL.
[09:37] <nikolam> it's 18.04 64bit
[09:38] <devjangra031> i am running ubuntu 18.04 on ACER laptop with Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 wireless card, i am unable to connect to any wifi network since few hours because of authentication failure..
[09:39] <devjangra031> How do i debug and find more info on this ?
[09:39] <EriC^^> devjangra031: are you sure the key is correct?
[09:40] <EriC^^> devjangra031: pastebin any relevant information in "dmesg" after an attempt
[09:40] <devjangra031> Definitely, i have connected to same network before the issue started today and everyone else is able to use the same network with same password
[09:41] <EriC^^> devjangra031: in edit connections > connection name > wifi security is the right security selected?
[09:41] <nikolam> devjangra031, does it pop up, asking for a password? Check that and also if it is actually connecting to the right AP.
[09:41]  * darkSeid gives EriC^^ a hug
[09:41] <devjangra031> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hgcT98gqV3/
[09:41] <darkSeid> ty man, that worked a charm
[09:41] <EriC^^> darkSeid: great, np
[09:42] <devjangra031> Nothing has been changed in settings, if i restart it connects but disconnects again after some time
[09:42] <devjangra031> EriC^^: ^^
[09:43] <EriC^^> devjangra031: does the router have any white/blacklist filtering enabled?
[09:43] <EriC^^> oh
[09:43] <devjangra031> No black and whitelisting
[09:43] <isene> Can't get syndaemon to work after upgrading to 18.04 (I've tried purging xorg and reinstalling and also installing xserver-xorg-input-all as some have suggested - but to no avail). Any pointers beyond this?
[09:44] <EriC^^> isene: did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ?
[09:45] <devjangra031> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pDqnPMtFg3/
[09:45] <devjangra031> EriC^^: ^^ this is the journalctl log for networkManager
[09:47] <devjangra031> nikolam: Yeah, connecting to the right AP, and it does not ask for password
[09:47] <EriC^^> devjangra031: which network card is it?
[09:47] <devjangra031> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377
[09:50] <EriC^^> devjangra031: not too sure if this helps https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2379273&p=13722812#post13722812
[09:50] <kiroma> How do I install Xorg debug symbols on 18.04?
[09:51] <EriC^^> probably not, he just had disconnection issues without authentication issues, nevermind
[09:51] <isene> EriC^^: Tried that now. No change (didn't reboot, though)
[09:51] <EriC^^> isene: try to log out and back in
[09:52] <isene> oki
[09:53] <EriC^^> kiroma: i think sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core-dbg
[09:53] <EriC^^> apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core-dbg   gives more info on the package
[09:53] <kiroma> That package does not exist for me
[09:54] <devjangra031> EriC^^: Yeah, that doesn't help because another laptop with same card is connected and my laptop has issues with multiple routers
[09:54] <EriC^^> oh, i'm on 16.04 that could be why
[09:54] <EriC^^> !find core-dbg bionic
[09:55] <EriC^^> !info xserver-xorg-core-dbgsym
[09:56] <EriC^^> !info xserver-xorg-core-dbg
[09:59] <kiroma> I'm going to have to compile Xorg myself am I?
[10:00] <isene> EriC^^: No change. I have the process running ( syndaemon -i 2 -K -R -d ) but as I type, all mouse movement, tapping and clicking keeps on going
[10:01] <EriC^^> kiroma: surely there must be some package, try 'apt-cache search xorg debug symbols' and see what you get
[10:03] <kiroma> It only shows dbg packages for drivers.
[10:06] <EriC^^> is there some hwe-16.04 debug package? not sure what those are if they exist for bionic
[10:06] <kiroma> Yes there are
[10:07] <Captain_Haddock> So I have a HDD with an Ubuntu/Windows dual boot. I also have an SSD with a newer 18.04 Ubuntu install which is now my primary OS. However, the 18.04 SSD is not a boot drive. The old HDD is the boot drive. Now, the old HDD appears to be failing. How can I make the SSD the boot drive now?
[10:07] <kiroma> Oh wait no
[10:07] <kiroma> There are hwe packages but no -dbg ones.
[10:11] <isene> EriC^^: (soft bump)
[10:11] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: is it uefi or legacy booting?
[10:13] <EriC^^> isene: no idea unfortunately, try repeating the question for the channel to see
[10:14] <nicholasBPM> nothing happens when i edit /etc/nanorc what could be wrong?
[10:16] <nikolam> devjangra031, Try forgetting password and entering it again when it asks you. Other then that, it may be someone is deauthenticating you based on wireless adapter MAC address. It used to be pretending to be an AP by name and deauthenticating a client as an AP password breaking tehnique. Check if BSSID you are connecting to is the BSSID of the actual AP you are connecting to.  Maybe trying to connect with another MAC address or AP
[10:16] <nikolam> owner put your wifi adapter MAC address on blacklist.
[10:21] <isene> Thanks, EriC^^ -- repeating:
[10:21] <isene> Can't get syndaemon to work after upgrading to 18.04 (I've tried purging xorg and reinstalling and also installing xserver-xorg-input-all as some have suggested - but to no avail). Any pointers beyond this?
[10:23] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: UEFI I believe. I'm not sure actually.
[10:23] <nikolam> devjangra031, you can change mac address with macchanger command or edit MAC address in connection settings, and see what happens.
[10:25] <Rembo> hello everyone, how can i find when/if my computer was booted on single mode?
[10:25] <MrA404> Hi
[10:26] <MrA404> hello
[10:26] <devjangra031> nikolam: mac address is not blocked, checked from the router admin page
[10:26] <nikolam> devjangra031, tried forgetting password and entering it again , does it asks you?
[10:26] <hateball> Rembo: I think "last -x" should show it
[10:27] <MrA404> hello
[10:28] <devjangra031> nikolam: Tried that, it asks for passwork but doesn't connect
[10:29] <devjangra031> nikolam: password is correct
[10:30] <nikolam> devjangra031, try deleting connection and theating a new one
[10:33] <isene> EriC^^: Is there another way to accomplish the same (to disable touchpad while typing) that is reliable?
[10:36] <phatcat> hello, I seem to have a problem with my touchpad.. it works on booting
[10:37] <phatcat> however it suddenly freezes after some time
[10:38] <phatcat> the "touchpad" is not even listed under "mouse & touchpad" in gui, just the mouse
[10:45] <EriC^^> isene: this might work https://stackoverflow.com/questions/222606/detecting-keyboard-mouse-activity-in-linux
[10:45] <EriC^^> put it in a loop perhaps and disable enable it with a conditional
[10:46] <pewds11> Hi, I'm kinda new here. I had some doubts regarding dual booting my win10 laptop with ubuntu..
[10:46] <EriC^^> pewds11: what doubts?
[10:48] <pewds11> My system partitioning style is MBR and it already has 4 partitions on it. I'll probably have delete one of my drives to create an extended partition I guess..
[10:50] <pewds11> and then install create logical drives and install ubuntu using gparted?I'm not sure how do I go around doing it and I couldn't find a comprehensive guide about it. Also will I be able to create a d drive again in that extended partition
[10:50] <Captain_Haddock> So I have a HDD with an Ubuntu/Windows dual boot. I also have an SSD with a newer 18.04 Ubuntu install which is now my primary OS. However, the 18.04 SSD is not a boot drive. The old HDD is the boot drive. Now, the old HDD appears to be failing. How can I make the SSD the boot drive now?
[10:50] <Captain_Haddock> I'm not sure if it's UEFI or legacy boot. I believe it's UEFI.
[10:51] <nikolam> pewds11, windblows need to be on first partition , it is usually installed on it then Linux's GRUB is recovered after (and it adds to dual-boot Windblows too)
[10:51] <Two_Dogs> pewds11: you need free space, if avail, otherwise squeeze a partition to create some
[10:53] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: are you in ubuntu right now?
[10:54] <EriC^^> pewds11: yeah you can create a d in the extended partition
[10:54] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: Yep
[10:55] <EriC^^> pewds11: delete the primary one, create an extended one, create the 'd' one with ntfs as the filesystem, and leave the rest of the space unallocated for ubuntu to install itself to
[10:55] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: type 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' and tell me if you see dirs or get no such file
[10:56] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: No file or dir.
[10:56] <Captain_Haddock> Legacy then?
[10:56] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: ok, you're using legacy then
[10:56] <EriC^^> yup
[10:56] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: i forget, you want the ubuntu ssd to take over booting or the opposite?
[10:56] <Rembo> can someone help me to find if my ubuntu server was booted in single mode?
[10:57] <EriC^^> Rembo: look at /proc/cmdline
[10:57] <isene> EriC^^: Thanks for the pointer. Will explore that path. :-)
[10:57] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: I want to SSD to take over. Essentially, it should boot up on its own.
[10:57] <isene> EriC^^: You are a really helpful guy. Thank you.
[10:57] <Captain_Haddock> +1
[10:57] <pewds11> EriC^^ Thanks and should I go around doing it in gparted via a live usb stick or in Windows'disk management?And does it matter if ubuntu is installed in the beginning of the extended partition or vice versa?
[10:57] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: aha, you'll need to set that in the bios, change the boot order so it's first in the list
[10:58] <EriC^^> isene: no problem :)
[10:58] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: It doesn't seem to register. The other drive seemed to fail the other day and I was stuck on a blank screen on boot up as it wasn't booting up off the SSD.
[10:58] <Captain_Haddock> Changed boot order etc.
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> Anyway I can check if this drive has an MBR oslt?
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> And/or install one. Or can I install UEFI? The BIOS does seem to support it.
[10:59] <EriC^^> pewds11: i'd do it from windows, and also boot into windows a couple times after the changes so it registers them, it doesnt matter where the ubuntu partition is
[10:59] <Rembo> EriC^^ , now is booted on normal mode, i reboot it normal, i want to see if it was booted on single mode a few days ago
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> (if UEFI helps, that is. IIRC, it's evil!)
[10:59] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: oh, type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link it gives you here
[11:00] <EriC^^> grub might need to be installed in the mbr
[11:02] <Rembo> EriC^^ : any ideeas?
[11:02] <EriC^^> Rembo: try looking at /var/log/syslog for previous boots maybe?
[11:03] <EriC^^> Rembo: actually look at /var/log/kern.log
[11:03] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: https://paste.debian.net/1027395/
[11:03] <EriC^^> it has the grub kernel line
[11:04] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: ok, type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[11:04] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: done
[11:05] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: ok try setting the ssd first in the bios and give it a shot
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> OK. Will do :)
[11:06] <EriC^^> :)
[11:06] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: I'm guessing that I won't see the boot flag set on the SSD partition unless it actually boots off it?
[11:07] <Rembo> EriC^^ : ubuntu write logs such us /var/log/kern.log on single mode boot too ?
[11:07] <kiroma> How do I get debug symbols for Xorg if xserver-xorg-core-dbg package does not exist in Bionic?
[11:08] <pandaadb> Hi - I have accidentally cancelled an update of my ubunut 16.04. It then did not start up anymore and told me I need top use fsck my /dev/sda2. I have done that and can restart.
[11:09] <pandaadb> I am not getting back to the UI. any apt-get call for update/clear/upgrade etc now ends with "/vvar/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools.postinst: Syntax error
[11:09] <EriC^^> Captain_Haddock: nope the boot flag is set in ubuntu from a partition editor, it's good that you mentioned it because some bios require it set on a primary partition for it to boot the drive
[11:09] <EriC^^> so that could be it if it still ignores it now
[11:09] <pandaadb> I am not sure how to reset this to a working mode. Is there a way to just update/upgrade the system or reset the initramfs-tools script?
[11:09] <pewds11> EriC^^: Okay thanks :) and  should I then proceed w install alongside windows within ubuntu installer or go for something else ?
[11:10] <EriC^^> pandaadb: did you try sudo apt-get -f install --reinstall initramfs-tools ?
[11:10] <pandaadb> The script is in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions. I tried viming it but there was no info in there either. The end of the upgrade command tells me: Error were encountered while processing: initramfs-tools, linux-firmware
[11:11] <pandaadb> EriC^^, I did the -f install, not the reinstall though. will run that now
[11:11] <EriC^^> pewds11: personally i would go for something else, it's more control plus i dont trust the installer that much, it kinda burned me once
[11:12] <pandaadb> EriC^^, it tells me "no file name for initramfs-tools:amd64"
[11:14] <EriC^^> pewds11: you're pretty deep into the whole partitioning stuff at this point, might as well learn the last chunk :)
[11:15] <EriC^^> hmm try without the -f
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:16] <pandaadb> Same error message sadly
[11:16] <EriC^^> pandaadb: are you able to remove the package?
[11:16] <pandaadb> via apt purge initramfs-tools ?
[11:17] <pandaadb> I haven't tried, just confirming the command :)
[11:17] <EriC^^> yup
[11:17] <EriC^^> wait
[11:18] <EriC^^> seems it will remove other stuff too, nevermind
[11:18] <EriC^^> pandaadb: what does 'md5sum /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools.postinst' give you?
[11:18] <pandaadb> well, didn't work anyway :)
[11:18] <EriC^^> you removed it? and the other stuff with it?
[11:18] <EriC^^> oh nevermind, you mean it didnt go through :)
[11:19] <pandaadb> I ran the command, it failed with: files list file for package "libvo-amrwbenc0:amd64" is missing final newline
[11:19] <pandaadb> i will run the md5, 1 sec
[11:19] <EriC^^> i feel like the fs got corrupted
[11:19] <pandaadb> i think it did
[11:19] <EriC^^> i think it's better to backup and reinstall at this point
[11:19] <pandaadb> ok, so let me type the md5 in :)
[11:20] <pandaadb> i had a fear that you would be saying that but i think that is the plan
[11:20] <pandaadb> md5 by the way: (only typing the end, i can't actually copy paste anything) - ...30cb8fb
[11:20] <phatcat> aaaa, help, I've removed xserver-xorg-input-libinput and it doesn't recognize my keyboard or mouse anymore
[11:21] <phatcat> is there a way to install it through the shell
[11:21] <EriC^^> pandaadb: mine ends with e7ef81fd
[11:21] <EriC^^> initramfs-tools 0.122ubuntu8.11 (from apt-cache policy initramfs-tools)
[11:21] <pandaadb> that would likely be the issue. i mean, i could take those files from a different machine and cp them onto there
[11:22] <pandaadb> 0.122ubuntu8.11 as well EriC^^
[11:23] <EriC^^> pandaadb: the problem is you cant know how much damage actually happened, likely other files are corrupted too, it's pretty compromised, it'll likely be a headache more if you dont reinstall you know
[11:23] <FURIUS> I am using Ubuntu Xenial and I would like to install a specifica package of Ubuntu Bionic. Is it possible?
[11:23] <pandaadb> EriC^^, thanks that sounds reasonable. After the fsck i executed the dpkg configure command and all other commands broke. And I can't get back into the UI either
[11:23] <pandaadb> good time to upgrade to 18 :) Thank you EriC^^
[11:24] <EriC^^> yup, it's perfect timing :)
[11:24] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:25] <FURIUS> I am using Ubuntu Xenial and I would like to install a specific package of Ubuntu Bionic. Is it possible?
[11:26] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Okay :)
[11:28] <BluesKaj> FURIUS,the likelihood of a successful installation without breakage and dependency problems is not good
[11:29] <FURIUS> I know the risc. I would like to try.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> FURIUS,what's the packasge?
[11:29] <FURIUS> Gajim.
[11:29] <FURIUS> Ubuntu Xenial has the 0.16.5 and Ubuntu Bionic has the 0.16.9 version.
[11:29] <mouses> FURIUS: just build it from sauce
[11:30] <mouses> grab the tarball, extract - ./configue then make then sudo make install
[11:30] <FURIUS> I know I could try this...but is it possible or not?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> FURIUS, what's wrong with the xenial version ...newer isn't necessarily better
[11:31] <mouses> FURIUS: using a prebuilt package for 18.04 on a prior version is pretty much totally doomed to fail
[11:31] <mouses> and what BluesKaj said - is there some specific feature you need that is not in the older version?
[11:32] <mouses> FURIUS: they also have a repo, just add it and clone with git
[11:32] <mouses> https://github.com/gajim/gajim
[11:32] <mouses> Oh wait, only arch and windows packages there
[11:33] <mouses> FURIUS: I would say your best bet if you must have the most recent version for $reasons is to just build from source.
[11:34] <DeathTickle1> wtf was just listening on this conversation and checking the Gajim package page and I just noticed I actually now IRL the guy labeled as original maintainer OoOo
[11:34] <mouses> DeathTickle1: hahaha small world
[11:36] <mouses> FURIUS: to build from source, you'll need to make sure you have everything it depends on - seems well documented, and all listed here:  https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/blob/gajim_1.0/README.md
[11:36] <DeathTickle1> and the Gajim version on bionic is 1.0.1 FURIUS btw
[11:36] <kiroma> How do I get debug symbols for Xorg if xserver-xorg-core-dbg package does not exist in Bionic?
[11:37] <mouses> FURIUS: or just use the flatpak!  https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/blob/gajim_1.0/flatpak/README.md
[11:37] <mouses> you got lots of options
[11:43] <gabriel29121993> friends someone cat help me?
[11:44] <gabriel29121993> pls help me friends
[11:44] <Captain_Haddock> gabriel29121993: What with?
[11:44] <Dlabz> hi, all Server 16.04.3 updated node to 10.0.0 breaking some code . How do I downgrade it?
[11:44] <DeathTickle1> gabriel29121993: ask your question, dont ask if you can ask
[11:45] <BluesKaj> gabriel29121993 just ask your question
[11:45] <gabriel29121993> haw i cant instal any games or aplication on ubuntu or debian or linux os?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> !steam | gabriel29121993
[11:46] <Captain_Haddock> EriC^^: I enabled the boot flag via fdisk. I couldn't do it via any GUI partition editor.
[11:46] <DeathTickle1> Dlabz: you mean you updated the server to 18.04 right?
[11:46] <Captain_Haddock> I guess I'll know how things go when I reboot. Thanks for your help :)
[11:46] <Dlabz> nope
[11:46] <DeathTickle1> Dlabz: ah you updated "nodejs" to 10.0.0 ?
[11:46] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: apt-get update, node is now 10.0.0
[11:47] <gabriel29121993> And is working and any aplication?
[11:47] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: would like it 8.*
[11:47] <DeathTickle1> Dlabz: then you arent using the official ubuntu nodejs package
[11:48] <gabriel29121993> well i give us A+
[11:48] <Captain_Haddock> Dlabz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get ?
[11:48] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: i have unofficial running as nodejs and official running as node
[11:49] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: Get:47 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_8.x xenial/main amd64 nodejs amd64 8.11.2-1nodesource1 [12.7 MB]
[11:51] <gabriel29121993> cool
[11:51] <gabriel29121993> thanks very much friends
[11:52] <Dlabz> thanks, Captain_Haddock
[11:54] <narfin> Question for you pros
[11:55] <narfin> What is your recommended ram requirements for Ubuntu 18.04
[11:55] <narfin> ...Optimal - not minimal
[11:55] <narfin> ?
[11:55] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: dlabz$ node -v v10.0.0 dlabz$ nodejs -v v8.11.2
[11:57] <BluesKaj> narfin, optimal for what kind and number of apps open at any one time etc?
[11:58] <DeathTickle1> well what can I tell you, I don't know what is in that repository Dlabz
[12:00] <Dlabz> DeathTickle1: as long as it's not a bug in official repo, I'll fix it, no worries
[12:04] <empedokles78> It says file system only readable with my USB drive (never happened before). What now?
[12:05] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, What is "it"? What filesystem is the USB drive using? Have you tried unmounting, remounting?
[12:06] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, I don't know. How to?
[12:08] <empedokles78> unmount /media/nuc/WALKMAN won't work
[12:08] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, you can run `mount` and that should list all devices and their filesystem type. As for unmounting and remounting, you should be able to use your GUI to "eject" the USB drive, remove it, re-insert it and see if it happens again.
[12:08] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, What does happen when you try that?
[12:09] <JimBuntu> Did you type `umount` above?
[12:09] <JimBuntu> er... did you typo above, or is that what you tried running?
[12:09] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, I did unmount it over the visual GUI, that doesn't work. It still lets me not delete the files.
[12:09] <empedokles78> mount lists : /dev/sdb1 on /media/nuc/WALKMAN type vfat
[12:10] <empedokles78> yeah, I tried unmounting it that way.
[12:10] <empedokles78> also.
[12:10] <zprd> mouses: for info, I find my way tinkering accounts database, since the account was not visible in the account manager, and deleted records linked to that account
[12:10] <JimBuntu> `cd && sudo umount /dev/sdb?`
[12:11] <zprd> all hail sqlite
[12:12] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, https://dpaste.de/cdjz
[12:13] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, Ok, it says it's not mounted, that's probably a good thing. Please paste the results from `mount`
[12:15] <empedokles78> After sticking it on my usb again, mount says: https://dpaste.de/iM3i
[12:16] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, Nautilus now shows locks on my folders which I can't delete.
[12:16] <JimBuntu> Yes, because it's in RO (readonly) mode. We will see if we can persuade it to switch to RW. Next time, please don't remove or re-insert unless asked to.
[12:17] <JimBuntu> `sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/nuc/WALKMAN`
[12:17] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, done.
[12:17] <JimBuntu> Is it still RO ?
[12:17] <inflex> Is there a GUI tool in 18.04 that lets me control the saturation/brightness of the screen (one screen is fine, but the other is just candy-floss overblown colours
[12:18] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, before you go any further... are there files on this drive that you want to keep? If so, probably best to copy those ones off right now.
[12:19] <m27> Question: is fail2ban supposed to work out of the box?
[12:19] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, I can't delete over nautilus, it says file system only readable, but no locks are shown anymore (like at the first time). I won't keep these files.
[12:19] <inflex> ( Using fluxbox, so calling up a specific DM tool might not work )
[12:20] <empedokles78> don't want to keep these files.
[12:20] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, If you don't want to keep any of the files, might be quickest to use mkfs or gparted, unmount the drive (do not remove) then use gparted to format or recreate the partition.
[12:21] <empedokles78> The mp3s are in its music folder
[12:21] <empedokles78> My player won't work anymore if I do this.
[12:21] <JimBuntu> If the re-created drive exhibits the same issues, then it would be worth checking dmesg for any errors that may have been occurring at mount.
[12:21] <empedokles78> ?
[12:22] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, well, we could try moving right on to dmesg errors... `dmesg | grep -i sdb`
[12:23] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, https://dpaste.de/qEpL
[12:24] <nicholasBPM> When copying text from a terminal window the text gets divided in multiple lines.. any work around?
[12:24] <JimBuntu> "Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck"
[12:24] <mas886> I need a bit of help, my Hard Drive is making weird clicking sounds and it takes way longer than usual to boot, I checked the hard drive for erroneous blocks, and also for HDD state with "smartctl -H /dev/sda", all those tools tell me the hard drive is fine (?) Is there any exhaustive tool that I can use to check the hard drive? Because obviously s
[12:24] <mas886> omething is wrong.
[12:24] <JimBuntu> You will want to make sure it's not mounted, before you try to repair anything.
[12:25] <JimBuntu> ^^ empedokles78
[12:25] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, unmounted it over nautilus.
[12:25] <empedokles78> 'fsck' ?
[12:26] <JimBuntu> You will probably want to remove the drive, re-insert the drive ignore nautilus, umount manually, then you can run fsck or something like dosfsck
[12:27] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, It be better if you'd give me the exact commands.
[12:27] <JimBuntu> Since you don't care about the files... when re-inserted and unmounted manually, then you can run `fsck.vfat -a /dev/sdb1`
[12:28] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, it should be ... plug in, if mounted automatically then `sudo umount /dev/sdb?`, then you can use the fsck command I posted
[12:28] <JimBuntu> Also... you mentioned your audio player wouldn't work if you re-partitioned... does the player have a 'format' option?
[12:29] <empedokles78> sudo umount /dev/sdb? does give no feedback
[12:29] <JimBuntu> good
[12:29] <empedokles78> it is still mounted in nautilus.
[12:29] <empedokles78> though.
[12:29] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, you can check if it's actually mounted, with `mount`
[12:29] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, Nautilus isn't the brightest star
[12:30] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, I see. It's not there anymore.
[12:31] <empedokles78> https://dpaste.de/zqUm
[12:31] <empedokles78> No allowance.
[12:31] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, Ok. Then you should be able to use `sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/sdb1`
[12:32] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, https://dpaste.de/21AQ
[12:32] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, do not remove the drive, one moment while I type
[12:33] <empedokles78> Ok.
[12:33] <JimBuntu> `mkdir /tmp/buntu1 && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/buntu1 && mount | grep sdb1`
[12:35] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, https://dpaste.de/F1Hd
[12:35] <JimBuntu> woohoo. Welcome to Read/Write mode again.
[12:36] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, now you can safely `sudo umount /dev/sdb?`, pull the USB and plug it back in, should be working again.
[12:36] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, looks like you may have lost the MEATLOAF folder and Eye of the Tiger MP3
[12:37] <irwiss> what's the proper way to insert nameservers into resolv.conf in 18.04?
[12:37] <boba> Hi, what is "git push --force" used for?
[12:37] <JimBuntu> In the future, try to always remember to unmount media before pulling it from the USB port... unmount command (however) and then make sure to give it time and wait for any LEDs on it to stop blinking (if any)
[12:38] <JimBuntu> boba, It's called throwing caution (and possibly some commits) to the wind.
[12:39] <Squall5668> irwiss: netplan yaml files can have nameservers in them, so that should be the proper way
[12:39] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, can this happen over nautilus?
[12:39] <boba> JimBuntu: can something disappear because of git push --force? Like previously added folder?
[12:39] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, it can basically happen using anything... all it takes is the user to think the command is finished, before it actually is... sudden power loss... lots of causes
[12:40] <JimBuntu> boba, yes, especially if that folder was part of a recent commit that isn't being pushed properly
[12:40] <boba> JimBuntu:  can the folder be recovered?
[12:41] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, so it didn't have anything to do with me deleting files over Rythmbox?
[12:41] <JimBuntu> boba, I am unsure, I think that depends on many more factors. Do you not still have the folder in your local branch(es)?
[12:41] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, It could have, but I don't remember there being any higher risk due to using Rythmbox.
[12:42] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, thanks a lot! :)
[12:42] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, You are welcome!
[12:42] <boba> JimBuntu: Someone else executed git push --force and because of that the folder disappeared
[12:42] <JimBuntu> empedokles78, take some notes on what we discussed as far as how to correct the issue, it may happen again.
[12:43] <boba> JimBuntu: on the remote repository. I am wondering if the folder can be recovered on the remote repository without using local branches
[12:43] <JimBuntu> boba, Ok, then you could regress back to before that push... grab the folders and re-introduce them and their files. Or simply regress to before the bad persons commit and let them do it right this time ;-)
[12:43] <empedokles78> JimBuntu, good idea.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> irwiss, nameserver 127.0.0.53 (example)
[12:46] <JimBuntu> boba, This might be a good time to look into git bare clones... although the git system is based on revisions and keeping the old fragments... never hurts to have a complete backup of your repos with all info in-tact.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> irwiss, are you dealing with DNS issues?
[12:47] <irwiss> i'd like to insert my own server in front of the 127.0.0.53, seems i have to go full static ip for netplan to pick up the nameservers: [...] part
[12:48] <boba> JimBuntu: thank you for the help
[12:48] <JimBuntu> boba, np, you are welcome.
[12:50] <YumSleep[m]> hi all i have such problem gcc doesn't see lua headers when i try to compile, i go it like so `gcc app.c -llua` tied also `-llua5.3` but it says ```test.c:2:10: fatal error: lua.h: No such file or directory
[12:50] <YumSleep[m]>  #include "lua.h"``` please help
[12:50] <Squall5668> irwiss: if you are using DHCP, your nameservers should be configured correclty. Check /var/runsystemd/resolve/resolv.conf to see if they are correct
[12:50] <YumSleep[m]> forgot to say, yes i install ed `lua5.3` and `liblua5.3` aaand `liblua5.3-dev`
[12:50] <Squall5668> that's /var/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf forgot a /
[12:51] <BluesKaj> irwiss, netplan works but it's clunky. try ifupdown instead and use a dhcp line like:" iface enp3s0 inet dhcp", in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:51] <irwiss> i don't need them *correct*, i need my own nameserver in there in front of the dhcp ones
[12:52] <Squall5668> BluesKaj: irwiss: you are both missing something, you are not supposed to use /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/resolv.conf in 18.04. Please read up on netplans and systemd-resolved
[12:52] <irwiss> i'm using /etc/netplan/10-myinterfacehere.yaml
[12:53] <irwiss> doesn't pick up nameservers with dhcp on, trying to replicate static config now
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Squall5668, well, i'm using it and it works well with ifupdown ...no netplan needed
[12:53] <Squall5668> irwiss: did you check /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf ?
[12:54] <Squall5668> BluesKaj: that's IF you install ifupdown. That's not the default
[12:54] <irwiss> drat, it did pick it up, but inside the systemd-resolve
[12:54] <Squall5668> irwiss: correct
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Squall5668, yeah and so is network manager , but it'sd not needed with my setup
[12:57] <GooberHimself> question
[12:58] <GooberHimself> im wanting to update to 18.04... will my backup from 16.04 install correctly?
[12:58] <irwiss> Squall5668: still doesn't resolve but i think that's the dns server issue now, thanks for the help
[12:58] <Rayben> Tellurocracy (from the Latin tellus "land" and the Greek κράτος "power") is a type of civilization or state system that is clearly associated with the development of land territories and consistent penetration into inland territories. Tellurocratic states have a certain territory and the state-forming ethnic majority living on it, around which further expansion takes place. The opposite of tellurocracy is thalassocracy (maritime empires), althou
[12:58] <Rayben> gh in the pure type of a particular state is rarely observed. Usually there is a combination of tellurocratic characteristics with thalassocratic.
[13:00] <GooberHimself> im wanting to update to 18.04... will my backup from 16.04 install correctly?
[13:02] <Cybertinus> hi
[13:02] <Cybertinus> on Ubuntu 16, what is the name of the service that start the graphical environment?
[13:02] <Cybertinus> 16.04, to be exact
[13:03] <JimBuntu> Cybertinus, I think you are looking for lightdm
[13:05] <Cybertinus> JimBuntu: yeah, that looks like the one, indeed
[13:05] <Cybertinus> thanks
[13:05] <JimBuntu> yw
[13:07] <lelloilpisello> channel irc debian?
[13:08] <ca_cabotage> hey all, I'm using zsh on ubuntu and set an environmental variable for openvpn "openvpn --config '/path/to/config' &" the problem is, that this is running on boot - it is not set as an autostart, just an environmental variable. what is going on here?
[13:10] <lelloilpisello> channel irc of porn?
[13:11] <Fuchs> lelloilpisello: not on this network, no.
[13:11] <qswz> whuch encryption type does ubuntu use (when you can choose it at installation time)
[13:12] <rpittau> ca_cabotage: I have 2 questions, why setting it in an env variable and not an alias? is the env variable global or local?
[13:12] <qswz> is it Dm-Crypt or eCryptFs or encFS
[13:12] <qswz> which*
[13:13] <pewds11> So while dual booting my win 10 MBR laptop with ubuntu do I need to have /boot and /home partitions along w /mount-point  and /swap?
[13:13] <qswz> LVM apparentlu
[13:13] <ca_cabotage> rpittau, sry, my bad its an alias
[13:13] <rypervenche> qswz: LVM is not encryption.
[13:14] <qswz> rypervenche: hmm, ok, and could I just know how would LVM affect performance? because I read that DM-crypt is really fast
[13:14] <rypervenche> qswz: If you're doing full-disk encryption, it will use LUKS. If you want home directory encryption, it uses eCryptFS.
[13:15] <qswz> ok
[13:15] <qswz> but at my level, I just want to pick the one that impact the least perfs
[13:15] <rypervenche> qswz: With LVM, you won't notice any performance degradation. With LUKS, there will be some, it all depends on the ciphers, hashes, etc. being used.
[13:15] <rypervenche> qswz: Do you want encryption?
[13:16] <qswz> that's the requiremnt yes
[13:16] <rypervenche> qswz: Personally, I use LUKS full-disk encryption along with LVM. There will be a hit in performance, but if your machine is pretty new, then it shouldn't make too much of a difference. I'm not a fan of home directory file encryption. Only causes problems usually.
[13:17] <qswz> Ok thanks
[13:18] <rypervenche> qswz: But if you install using the LVM & LUKS option, you should be fine.
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> qswz: I would also recommend LUKS, it's been around for a while and has the greatest stability. I don't know about it's performance, though it hasn't bothered an old Pentium 4 machine that I have it installed to.
[13:20] <Felonious28> Hello!
[13:20] <pewds11> Hi, Do I need to uncheck Turn on fast startup while dual booting?
[13:20] <rpittau> ca_cabotage: where did you define the alias ?
[13:20] <Felonious28> Fast startup can cause trouble.
[13:21] <qswz> Ok thanks you too
[13:21] <qswz> I've seen some new SSd have encryption builtin
[13:21] <qswz> DDS's*
[13:21] <qswz> ah I can't type
[13:21] <pewds11> Felonious28: Okay and while dual booting my win 10 MBR laptop with ubuntu do I need to have /boot and /home partitions along w /mount-point  and /swap?
[13:21] <Raybin> Maritime history is the study of human interaction with and activity at sea. It covers a broad thematic element of history that often uses a global approach, although national and regional histories remain predominant. As an academic subject, it often crosses the boundaries of standard disciplines, focusing on understanding humankind's various relationships to the oceans, seas, and major waterways of the globe. Nautical history records and interprets past
[13:21] <Raybin> events involving ships, shipping, navigation, and seafarers.
[13:21] <Raybin> galaxynet
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> pewds11: It is recommended that you disable dual boot. Otherwise windows will always boot
[13:23] <qswz> I keep dual boot
[13:23] <Felonious28> When I installed Ubuntu on my laptop a year ago, it came with the GRUB boot manager. When you're installing make sure to always have the boot manager option ticked.
[13:23] <qswz> and set time to 0 or 1
[13:23] <pewds11> pragmaticenigma : Disable dual boot?
[13:23] <qswz> but I quite never used windows
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> pewds11: No, disable fast boot
[13:24] <pewds11> Felonious28 : Okay..
[13:24] <rpittau> ca_cabotage: anyway, one thing you should try, and this is valid for all aliases in general, is to use single quotes ' instead of double quotes " to define the alias
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> pewds11: sorry... didn't catch my typo
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> pewds11: thanks for checking :-)
[13:24] <Raybin> Maritime history is the study of human interaction with and activity at sea. It covers a broad thematic element of history that often uses a global approach, although national and regional histories remain predominant. As an academic subject, it often crosses the boundaries of standard disciplines, focusing on understanding humankind's various relationships to the oceans, seas, and major waterways of the globe. Nautical history records and interprets past
[13:24] <Raybin> events involving ships, shipping, navigation, and seafarers.
[13:25] <pewds11> pragmaticenigma : no worries
[13:25] <maschool> hello
[13:25] <Felonious28> pewds11: Always keep GRUB. But make sure that you don't choose the option to overwrite the disk, because that's a common mistake which entirely overwrites their Windows installation.
[13:26] <Felonious28> pewds11: Also, make sure you have adequete disk space for another partition.
[13:26] <mIk3_08> any op alive?
[13:28] <leftyfb> mIk3_08: try #ubuntu-ops
[13:29] <mIk3_08> Thnaks a lot leftyfb
[13:30] <pewds11> Felonious28 : yeah , I actually had 4 primary partitions and out of which I deleted d drive which had 800gigs of free space. so currently having close to 800gigs of unallocated memory
[13:32] <pewds11> Felonious28 : I have turned off fast boot and created a live USB stick.I plan to create an extended partition and install ubuntu on logical partitions within it.
[13:34] <maschool> (Failed to run "arduino-arduinoide.desktop"Failed to execute child process "/home/maschool/Arduino/arduino-1.8.5/arduino" (No such file or directory))
[13:35] <maschool> error message that ubuntu shows us when we try to open arduino... Anyone to help us?
[13:36] <niko> /22/laswendell
[13:37] <kiroma> How do I get debug symbols for Xorg if xserver-xorg-core-dbg package does not exist in Bionic?
[13:48] <isene> Trying to get syndaemon to work (stopped working after upgradet to 18.04). I think I've found the why - but I don't have a solution yet. It seems syndaemon is disabling the wrong device (see my xinput list here: http://dpaste.com/0KK85TR). Xinput lists two touchpads (oddly). Running syndaemon in verbode mode shows it is registering that I type and responds by disabling something (presumably the wrong touchpad
[13:48] <isene> entry). How do I make it disable id=12 instead of id=17?
[13:53] <isene> Oh - found this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2316240
[13:53] <isene> nevermind
[13:56] <isene> That did solve it :-)
[13:58] <maschool> solved!
[13:59] <ruby32> a friend of mine is experiencing this from the ls command: %%%%%%%%%%@ 1 xxxxxx xxxx  1.3M Feb 11 12:46 file.dat
[13:59] <ruby32> what does %%%%%%%%%%@ mean?
[13:59] <ruby32> can't find anything on the ls manpage, wiki page, or unix file type wiki page
[13:59] <james1138> Can I ask a question about Pidgin and Ubuntu here or is there a channel for Pidgin?
[13:59] <leftyfb> ruby32: create a new user and login as the new user. See if it still happens. If not, I'm going to guess they messed with the PS1 settings in .bashrc
[14:00] <ruby32> leftyfb: what does %%%%%%%%%%@ have to do with PS1 settings?
[14:00] <leftyfb> oh right, it's ls
[14:00] <leftyfb> sorry, multitasking ... didn't use my brain :)
[14:01] <ruby32> the command was: $ ls -lh \ total 5568
[14:01] <JediMaster> Hi guys, is there a safe & secure way I can create a user with no password that can only login via the console? (This is for both physical machines and VMs within a datacenter that has hugely strict physical security in place, and console access is only via encrypted VPN & other authentication). This is for a backup if SSH connections aren't available
[14:01] <ruby32> whoops, without the "total"
[14:01] <leftyfb> JediMaster: no
[14:13] <mnr200> Hello, I'm trying to install this golang package https://github.com/proglottis/gpgme, but I'm getting an error while trying to get it with  go get github.com/proglottis/gpgme:
[14:13] <mnr200> Error: ../../proglottis/gpgme/data.go:4:20: fatal error: gpgme.h: No such file or directory
[14:14] <pavlos> ruby32: the flags -l (long format) and -h (human readable format, in MB/GB)
[14:14] <mnr200> I'm not sure which package to install to get this working
[14:15] <mnr200> I tried installing this package gpgmepp-dbg, but didn't work
[14:15] <mnr200> Can anyone give me the idea how do I solve this?
[14:16] <seere> mnr200: try libgpgme-dev
[14:16] <Nia777> hi
[14:16] <Nia777> How to fill a figure that is drawn with lines in Draw LO?
[14:16] <Nia777> How to fill a figure that is drawn with lines in Draw LO?
[14:16] <Nia777> PLEASE HELP
[14:17] <ruby32> pavlos: i know what the flags are, i do not know what  %%%%%%%%%%@ means in the context of unix file descriptors
[14:17] <ruby32> i am also unable to find any information about it
[14:19] <Nia777> PLEASE!!!
[14:19] <Nia777> How to fill a figure that is drawn with lines in Draw LO?
[14:21] <mIk3_08> Nia777: what you mean LibreOffice Draw?
[14:23] <sandstrom> I'm upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 and wrestling with systemd-resolved. I need to forward requests under one FQDN to a local DNS server, all other requests should go to the DNS acquired via DHCP. I had this working with dnsmasq previously, but doesn't work after upgrading. Is DNS forwarding per FQDN/domain possible with systemd-resolved? Or do I need to disable it and use dnsmasq only?
[14:23] <sandstrom> If I do disable it, how can I ensure that dnsmasq is setup with the DHCP-acquired dns-server (which I assume may change from time to time)?
[14:24] <pavlos> ruby32: what shell do they run? zsh?
[14:24] <Nia777> Draw is a vector editor in the office suite Libre Office
[14:25] <ruby32> pavlos: how can i ask them to identify their shell?
[14:26] <pavlos> ruby32: ps will output the shell
[14:26] <ruby32> thank you
[14:26] <Nia777> PLEASE FRIENDS!
[14:26] <mnr200> seere, libgpgme-dev, giving me this error: E: Package 'libgpgme-dev' has no installation candidate
[14:26] <pavlos> ruby32: example 22568 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[14:26] <ruby32> pavlos: ok, i asked them to identify their shell
[14:26] <ioria> !info libgpgme11-dev | mnr200
[14:28] <mnr200> ubottu, Then how do I install it or which package should I install
[14:28] <seere> mnr200: exists in bionic, according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libgpgme-dev
[14:29] <Nia777> I CAN NOT FILL THE FIGURE!
[14:29] <mnr200> seere, I tried this sudo apt install libgpgme-dev
[14:29] <seere> mnr200: which ubuntu version are you trying this on?
[14:29] <pavlos> mnr200: apt search libgpgme*
[14:29] <mnr200> 16.04
[14:30] <seere> mnr200: it'libgpgme11-dev in 16.04
[14:30] <mnr200> pavlos, apt search shows this libgpgme++2v5/xenial 4:4.14.10-1ubuntu2 amd64
[14:30] <mnr200>   c++ wrapper library for gpgme
[14:30] <mnr200> libgpgme11/xenial,now 1.6.0-1 amd64 [installed]
[14:30] <mnr200>   GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy (library)
[14:30] <mnr200> libgpgme11-dev/xenial 1.6.0-1 amd64
[14:30] <mnr200>   GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy (development files)
[14:31] <ioria> mnr200, are you on xenial or bionic ?
[14:31] <k0ns0le> Hey All, I'm having some issues with my volume being to low using a hyperX 7.1 ch headset. Subwoofer is perm on full and sound is to low otherwise
[14:32] <k0ns0le> can somebody help me
[14:32] <seere> ioria: on xenial, he told above. Should be libgpgme11-dev there
[14:32] <adroit_machine_> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 14.04 kde. and in the bluetooth menu it says"No Bluetooth adapters have been found". I need to tether my device with my laptop. Need help please. And my laptop does have a bluetooth adapter
[14:32] <k0ns0le> sorry using 18.04
[14:32] <ioria> yep
[14:32] <k0ns0le> and it only happened after latest update
[14:32] <mnr200> ioria, I think I'm on xenial
[14:32] <ioria> !info libgpgme11-dev  xenial | mnr200
[14:33] <ioria> mnr200,  apt install libgpgme11-dev
[14:33] <mnr200> Ok, let me try
[14:34] <mnr200> OK the error is gone after installing libgpgme11-dev
[14:34] <sheepy> hey fam
[14:34] <mnr200> Thanks guys!
[14:34] <ioria> ok
[14:35] <sheepy> oh wrong channel
[14:36] <k0ns0le> anyone?
[14:37] <swein> Has anyone else had weird checkerboard pattering when moving windows really fast or with fast moving video? Using intel nuc skylake i7, I've installed the 2018 01.org graphics recipe on 4.16 kernel. Before and after the recipe still has this issue. 16.04 did not
[14:40] <k0ns0le> Hey Guys, I'm having issues with my sound after the latest update, It's all distorted, low and my subwoofer setting is on full when I use analogue 7.1ch. could anybody help me?
[14:44] <k0ns0le> anyone?
[14:46] <qswz> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/173/057/2a9.png
[14:46] <qswz> reminds me this
[14:46] <qswz> k, I'm out :)
[14:47] <aguardiente> anyone here happen to know why neither of my USB drives show up in the usb-creator app?
[14:47] <qswz> why shuldn't it?
[14:47] <aguardiente> no idea
[14:47] <aguardiente> usually this isn't an issue
[14:47] <aguardiente> i'm going to try out of a VM and see if that might have something to do with it
[14:47] <aguardiente> if i'm lucky that's the problem heh
[14:48] <aguardiente> i think my buddy has a lubuntu laptop sitting around somewhere
[14:48] <tigefa> !info pulseaudio-equalizer | k0ns0le
[14:49] <aguardiente> crucially it just hangs on the 'Installing' popup box
[14:49] <aguardiente> thats another thing it does
[14:49] <aguardiente> i open the app and that comes up
[14:49] <aguardiente> just looks like it freezes on a progress bar that never sees any progress
[14:50] <k0ns0le> tigefa, I can't seem to install it
[14:51] <aguardiente> ok, tried usb-creator-gtk instead of usb-creator-kde which it seems like the ubuntu software store installed for some odd reason
[14:51] <aguardiente> now the 'installing' dialog box goes away
[14:51] <aguardiente> but still doesn't see my drives. mounted or unmounted
[14:53] <adroit_machine_> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 14.04 kde. and in the bluetooth menu it says"No Bluetooth adapters have been found". I need to tether my device with my laptop. Need help please. And my laptop does have a bluetooth adapter
[14:56] <tigefa> k0ns0le: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 -y && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pulseaudio-equalizer
[14:58] <k0ns0le> tigefa, it's stuck on 0% not doing anything i've already tried
[14:58] <k0ns0le> could not get au archive is the error I'm getting
[14:59] <xirg> anyone know why i'm getting a fuzzy grey screen while trying to vnc through ssh tunnel to my ubuntu desktop?
[15:01] <k0ns0le> I've tried everything i know
[15:03] <k0ns0le> it just hangs on this 0% [Connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (202.158.214.106)]         16.7 kB/s 0s
[15:07] <leftyfb> k0ns0le: your school it running you through a proxy
[15:08] <leftyfb> k0ns0le: that proxy isn't properly forwarding the traffic to/from archive.ubuntu.com
[15:08] <k0ns0le> I'm at home :/
[15:08] <k0ns0le> with no proxy configured
[15:08] <k0ns0le> setting disabled :/ i'll try hotspot my phone
[15:08] <k0ns0le> sec
[15:08] <leftyfb> k0ns0le: oh, I see, nm
[15:08] <JimBuntu> I can't access http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/16.04/
[15:08] <leftyfb> missed the au. at the en
[15:08] <leftyfb> end*
[15:11] <c0nsole> ok so now on my hotspot
[15:11] <c0nsole> i get this error, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:11] <c0nsole> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[15:11] <leftyfb> c0nsole: use sudo, or wait a moment or find what's got dpkg locked
[15:13] <c0nsole> yeah i did, all good now, however still hanging on 0% [Connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:388:30bc:cafe::beef)]
[15:13] <JimBuntu> They actually end up pointing to the AARNet mirror anyway... and it seems to be down right now, I can't get a response from anything it mirrors.
[15:14] <JimBuntu> c0nsole, There are a few local mirrors listed here that you *could* try... I see a few of them are up and responding. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/LocalAptMirrors
[15:18] <xirg> oh wait it could be i don't have enough RAM to run a desktop environment
[15:20] <c0nsole> i'm fairly new and trying to figure out how to change mirrors
[15:20] <c0nsole> Jimbuntu, could you please help me?
[15:21] <JimBuntu> I believe that link I gave has step by step instructions
[15:21] <c0nsole> i know, it does. however, it doesn't actually let me make changes because i'm not the owner of the file
[15:22] <JimBuntu> Open Dash, type in Software Sources, in the Ubuntu Software Tab there is a 'Download From' dropdown... choose Other... you will be presented with a list of mirrors
[15:23] <JimBuntu> I suggest using the Griffith University mirror, as I saw it was up and running and doesn't appear to be additionally metered/unmetered
[15:23] <c0nsole> thanks
[15:23] <JimBuntu> chu, why you sleeping?!
[15:23] <JimBuntu> c0nsole, yw. I hope this works out well for you.
[15:23] <c0nsole> thanks
[15:24] <c0nsole> I'm struggling to learn but i'm getting there
[15:25] <venmx> hi, do i have to open port 11371 for udp/tcp if i want to install a php key from a key server?
[15:25] <sylv255> Hi do you know a simple program to draw arrows, text and ellipses on an image in Ubuntu 16.04 please ?
[15:25] <JimBuntu> sylv255, like Gimp?
[15:25] <sylv255> Gimp is not simple for that
[15:26] <venmx> libreoffice draw?
[15:26] <Fuchs> Gimp is made for exactly _not_ that
[15:26] <sylv255> ok I test
[15:26] <Fuchs> you can use something like tuxpaint, kolourpaint and the likes
[15:26] <Fuchs> libreoffice also seems a bit overkill
[15:26] <JimBuntu> and yet, it has the arrow function built in... true, you have to draw your path first... but it's there
[15:27] <venmx> there's a few saas out there too i think
[15:28] <sylv255> I test and tell you the one I think is the most simple
[15:29] <c0nsole> JimBuntu, I got it to work. Anyway of knowing why my sound is all messed up on and low
[15:29] <c0nsole> I tried to sudo apt-add-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 -y && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y pulseaudio-equalizer
[15:29] <c0nsole> but it's already at the latest version
[15:29] <c0nsole> this was fine before updatre
[15:30] <c0nsole> i tried to use previous kernal with no success
[15:30] <JimBuntu> c0nsole, Sorry, I'm not very good with that stuff any more.
[15:30] <c0nsole> ok, thank you
[15:35] <JimBuntu> yw c0nsole ... wait a bit, someone else will probably be able to help
[15:40] <sylv255> tuxpaint is for children and kolourpaint have no arrows built-in only segments
[15:40] <sylv255> but I found on Google Inkscape I try
[15:48] <Fuchs> inkscape is for vector based graphics
[15:48] <BluesKaj> c0ncealed1, check alsamixer in the terminal turn up the the relevant vol ctrls
[15:49] <Fuchs> sylv255: you could use krita, but to me that sounds like overkill
[15:49] <Linuxmun> hello
[15:52] <Linuxmun> hello...
[15:53] <EriC^^> hello Linuxmun
[15:53] <Linuxmun> Hey, what's up
[15:53] <EriC^^> not much you?
[15:53] <Linuxmun> same old same old
[15:56] <Linuxmun> does anyone know where I can find sysadmin tutorials for Ubuntu
[15:56] <EriC^^> tldp.org
[15:56] <Linuxmun> sweet, thank you
[15:56] <EriC^^> digital ocean has a ton
[15:57] <Linuxmun> Are you a sysadmin?
[15:57] <EriC^^> i'd recommend the linux admin guide and gnu command line summary from tldp, short and good reads
[15:57] <EriC^^> no just a hobbyist
[15:57] <Linuxmun> same
[15:59] <Linuxmun> A lot of people joining and leaving
[16:00] <xirg> i cannot figure out why i'm getting a grey screen with a black x for my vnc session
[16:00] <xirg> the mouse is a black x
[16:00] <xirg> it's as if lxde isn't even starting
[16:00] <sylv255> inkscape is not very simple but it works
[16:01] <sylv255> it wins
[16:01] <leftyfb> xirg: try x11vnc for your vnc server
[16:03] <Linuxmun> so... How do you guys feel abou t Stallman?
[16:03] <nacc> Linuxmun: totally offtopic.
[16:04] <Linuxmun> Ah, ok
[16:06] <Linuxmun> this chat room is kinda slow for me
[16:06] <Linuxmun> I'm heading out, ;ater guys
[16:12] <anonbeat>        fgedteuuhj
[16:32] <hackish> I'm trying to run a server on boot as root. Is there a best method to do this? I tried writing a shell script and sticking it in /etc/inet.d but it doesn't seem to run on bootup.
[16:32] <hackish> Not sure if I missed a step or not
[16:34] <hackish> also, I'm not sure if the script is expected to exit or not
[16:36] <EriC^^> hackish: easy method is to use root's crontab, "sudo crontab -e" then add an @reboot /command.sh
[16:36] <xar-> hackish: why not create a custom systemd service?
[16:37] <EriC^^> the environment might be different so keep that in mind for variables and such
[16:37] <hackish> Eric^^ didn't know crontab could be used to start something once on boot
[16:38] <Southern_Gentlem> hackish,  what service
[16:40] <hackish> southern, it's just a node.js server I wrote.
[16:40] <hackish> terribly dirty running it as root, but its an embedded device so it's not going to have actual users.
[16:41] <hackish> I'm just trying to get this to boot up with a web browser and run the node server in the background so the browser can connect to it
[16:41] <xar-> there's much to gain using the systemd subsystem compared with antiquated cron
[16:42] <xar-> granted there's a time and a place for cron, but I'd challenge you to consider encapsulating your node implementation in a formal unit
[16:42] <hackish> what do you mean formal unit?
[16:44] <xar-> giving you a rundown of systemd basics is arguably outside the scope of this channel :)
[16:44] <hackish> more simply then what advantages would it give?
[16:45] <xar-> in short, systemd has unit categorization that corresponds to the type of resource you're describing, like services, sockets, mounts, targets etc
[16:46] <hackish> you mean so the system can make sure nothing else binds to port 80 for example?
[16:46] <hackish> or that it is started after all prerequisites?
[16:47] <xar-> it's a full fledged manager, so, in short, yes, systemd has a concept of "directives" where you can define relationships to other units
[16:48] <flai> Dumb question, can I set ubuntu 18.04 to switch the workspaces on both my monitors when navigating around?
[16:48] <hackish> ok that's fair. Maybe for the future then. This is a set and forget type deal. I hope to never have to touch/upgrade it once its working.
[16:49] <xar-> for instance, let's say you use cron and your process dies; how do you respond to that failure? code your own logic? systemd has primitives to allow you to coordinate actions around failure modes (for instance)
[16:49] <flai> Like I looked in the options and found nothing
[16:49] <flai> IIRC 16.04 had the "switch both monitors" behavior
[16:50] <hackish> xar- this program has no bugs and will never die! Ha. I expect if it craps out, someone will probably pull the plug and plug it back in. Ugh.
[16:51] <pewds11> hi, how do i go around creating an extended partition while installing ubuntu
[16:51] <xar-> hackish: also, doing a formal encapsulation gives you access to fun things like more specificity around cgroups, resource management, you get to leverage the journal, on and on and on
[16:51] <eFfeM> Hi, I just installed 18.04 on an old laptop (T4200/3Ghz/128G Crucial MX300 SSD) but the startup is very slow. From dmesg:
[16:51] <eFfeM> [    3.976097] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.50.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[16:51] <eFfeM> [   36.265443] EXT4-fs (dm-0): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[16:51] <eFfeM> Anyone an idea what could cause this?
[16:51] <eFfeM> BTW I have chosen LLVM while install. Could that be the bad guy?
[16:52] <hackish> xar- I'll definitely look at it for the next version. Linux is a big foreign to me so there are many things done different from other unixes.
[16:53] <nacc> eFfeM: neither of those dmesg entries really tell us anything, and  you mean "LVM" not "LLVM"
[16:53] <eFfeM> oops, that is T4200 (dual core 2 Ghz) with 3 GB of memory
[16:53] <eFfeM> nacc, yes Indeed LVM
[16:53] <nacc> eFfeM: `systemd-analyze blame` may tell you what is taking a long time
[16:54] <eFfeM> nacc the question is, what is it doing in the 34 seconds between these two messages. They are adjacent in dmesg
[16:54] <eFfeM> nacc, will try,  back in a bit
[16:55] <eFfeM> nacc good suggestion: top 3
[16:55] <eFfeM>          20.852s plymouth-quit-wait.service
[16:55] <eFfeM>           6.299s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
[16:55] <eFfeM>           2.457s dev-mapper-ubuntu\x2d\x2dvg\x2droot.device
[16:56] <eFfeM> I don't even have an idea what plymouth is
[16:58] <xar-> Plymouth is the application which provides the graphical "splash" screen when booting and shutting down an Ubuntu system.
[16:58] <nacc> eFfeM: aiui, it is running in parallel there, while it waits for other stuff to finish, so it's not the issue
[16:58] <xar-> man google search is getting good these days >_>
[16:59] <dara> hi, i formatted my usb stick and now it isn't recognised by ubuntu
[17:01] <donofrio> converting an mp4 to gif?  what command line do I run?
[17:02] <nacc> donofrio: https://askubuntu.com/questions/648603/how-to-create-an-animated-gif-from-mp4-video-via-command-line
[17:02] <nacc> dara: what did you formt it as?
[17:02] <dara> nacc ms-dos
[17:02] <dara> i think
[17:02] <nacc> dara: you mean vfat (fat32)?
[17:03] <dara> i formatted it in gparted and from the terminal
[17:03] <dara> nacc ^
[17:03] <nacc> dara: if you unplug and plug the usb drive, does dmesg see the disk?
[17:03] <dara> nacc: yeah, it says attached removable disk
[17:04] <nacc> dara: and what name (e.g., sda)?
[17:04] <dara> nacc [ 1529.204775] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[17:05] <nacc> dara: ok, and what does `sudo fdisk /dev/sdb` then 'p' say? (use a pastebin)
[17:06] <dara> nacc: which pastebin should i use ? ( i haven't been on irc in a good while)
[17:06] <nacc> !pastebin | dara
[17:07] <dara> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D5c2bQfYFk/
[17:07] <dara> thanks dude
[17:08] <nacc> dara: it does not see any partitions ... there's no output after that last line?
[17:08] <dara> nacc: no just the command line
[17:09] <EriC^^> maybe it formatted the whole thing without a partition
[17:10] <dara> EriC^^ i thought i had partitioned it in gparted
[17:10] <EriC^^> give it a go with fdisk
[17:11] <EriC^^> press 'n' and use all default values
[17:11] <nacc> EriC^^: yeah that seems likely
[17:12] <EriC^^> dara: then run sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1 and try mounting sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[17:13] <dara> dara@dara-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP983EA-ABU:~$ sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1
[17:13] <dara> sudo: mkfs.fat: command not found
[17:13] <EriC^^> dara: i forgot to mention, after 'n' press 'w' to write the new table, and run sudo partprobe to let the kernel read it
[17:14] <EriC^^> dara: what's the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' now?
[17:14] <EriC^^> dara: sudo apt-get install dosfstools    to get mkfs.fat installed
[17:15] <dara> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7jW5R3kB8h/
[17:15] <dara> EriC^^
[17:16] <DeathTickle1> hey guys, is unity-control-center using 97.1 GiB of virtual memory for you? Is it normal if I have this? I know it's just virtual memory which isn't used, the number just seems huge
[17:16] <ioria> datajerk, i think you don't have a PT
[17:16] <ioria> dara, i think you don't have a PT
[17:17] <EriC^^> dara: did you write the partition table earlier with 'w' ?
[17:17] <dara> EriC^^: i put in fdisk then w and i didn't see anywhere to enter w
[17:18] <dara> err... n
[17:18] <EriC^^> dara: type 'sudo fdisk /dev/sdb'
[17:18] <xirg> leftyfb, x11vnc worked, but why doesn't tightvncserver or vncserver work?
[17:18] <EriC^^> press 'p' do you see a partition?
[17:18] <xirg> leftyb
[17:18] <xirg> whoops sry accident
[17:18] <Kireji> running 16.04 LTS.  apt says open-vm-tools needs updating, held back. pushing it with explicit install says it needs to install libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-openssl... why? I don't want or need VM or "VMware" support. however, when I do an apt-get remove, it says it will also remove ubuntu-server ??!? seriously? we have to keep VMware support installed, and install anciallary packages, or we have to remove
[17:19] <Kireji> ubuntu-server?  This seems broken.
[17:20] <dara> EriC^^ yes i see it
[17:20] <EriC^^> dara: ok, cool
[17:20] <dara> EriC^^ /dev/sdb1            2048    15138815     7568384   83  Linux
[17:20] <EriC^^> exit fdisk and type "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb"
[17:21] <seere> Kireji: ubuntu-server is a meta-package. It just contains 2 files and is used to pull in a whole bunch of other packages. IMO it is save to remove.
[17:22] <dara> EriC^^ done, still can't see it
[17:22] <dara> do i have to restart ?
[17:22] <EriC^^> dara: does it mention anything after partprobe?
[17:22] <dara> EriC^^ no it doesn't say anything
[17:22] <EriC^^> try "cat /proc/partitions" anything there?
[17:23] <dara> EriC^^ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rH4r7FtYzT/
[17:23] <dara> thanks dude
[17:24] <EriC^^> dara: sudo apt-get install dosfstools
[17:24] <dara> EriC^^: ok installed
[17:25] <EriC^^> dara: you should now have mkfs.fat, sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1
[17:25] <Kireji> seere: ah oj, thank you.
[17:25] <Kireji> , erm ok
[17:25] <Kireji> seere: thank you
[17:26] <dara> EriC^^ sudo: mkfs.fat: command not found
[17:26] <dara> i've installed dosfstools but it can't see mkfs
[17:26] <EriC^^> dara: what does "echo $PATH" give ?
[17:26] <nacc> seere: Kireji: I disagree with that statement. metapackages are used to ease upgrades and transitions.
[17:27] <dara> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G9w68ZmMrh/      i haven't had path problems before
[17:28] <EriC^^> dara: hmm it looks ok, what does 'ls /sbin/mkfs.fat' give?
[17:28] <eFfeM> nacc: reporting back. I found a web page on askubuntu from someone with the same question. The answer he got was to add noresume to the grub options; I tried that and now the 30 sec delay is gone
[17:28] <nacc> eFfeM: interesting
[17:28] <dara> EriC^^: dara@dara-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP983EA-ABU:~$ ls /sbin/mkfs.fat
[17:28] <dara> ls: cannot access /sbin/mkfs.fat: No such file or directory
[17:29] <dara> EriC^^: i'm using an old version of ubuntu i don't know whether that makes a difference
[17:29] <EriC^^> which version?
[17:29] <dara> EriC^^: how do i find that out ?
[17:29] <EriC^^> dara: what about "dpkg -L dosfstools | grep mkfs.fat" ?
[17:29] <ioria> dara, cat /etc/issue
[17:30] <eFfeM> nacc https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030867/ubuntu-18-04-how-to-diagnose-fix-very-slow-boot?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[17:30] <ioria> i bet on lucid
[17:30] <dara> EriC^^: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[17:30] <ioria> almost
[17:30] <nacc> dara: that's eol ... and has been for some time
[17:30] <EriC^^> aha, that's end of support, you need to upgrade to at least 14.04 or 16.04 preferrably
[17:31] <EriC^^> dara: what does "dpkg -L dosfstools | grep mkfs.fat" give?
[17:31] <dara> EriC^^: I can't upgrade, the graphics card is too old to support modern linux, the computer is really old
[17:31] <nacc> dara: you're running an unsupported and insecure version of ubuntu
[17:31] <dara> EriC^^: it doesn't give me anything
[17:31] <EriC^^> dara: 14.04 is actually quicker than 12.04 and kind of simpler graphics effects wise
[17:32] <EriC^^> did you try a 14.04 live usb? or 16.04?
[17:32] <zetheroo1> on my 16.04 laptop I haven't received any notifications to upgrade to 18.04 :/
[17:32] <nacc> zetheroo1: won't happen until 18.04.1
[17:32] <dara> EriC^^: i got a graphics error reply when i tried to update
[17:32] <EriC^^> dara: aha, it must be part of some other package for 12.04
[17:32] <eFfeM> nacc, oops got disconnected. apparently during install I did not create swap
[17:32] <EriC^^> !find mkfs.fat
[17:32] <zetheroo1> nacc: ah ok
[17:33] <EriC^^> dara: try typing only "mkfs.fat" without sudo and see what package suggestions it gives
[17:33] <EriC^^> dara: did you try a live usb though?
[17:33] <eFfeM> hmm no, disks says I have 1G of swap; anyway problem is (more or less) solved
[17:33] <EriC^^> upgrading is a mess most of the time, clean installs are way easier
[17:34] <nacc> EriC^^: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&section=all&arch=any&keywords=mkfs.vfat&searchon=contents claims it's in dosfstools
[17:34] <dara> EriC^^: No command 'mkfs.fat' found, did you mean:
[17:34] <dara>  Command 'mkfs.vfat' from package 'dosfstools' (main)
[17:34] <EriC^^> oh, it's called mkfs.vfat in 12.04's version
[17:34] <dara> maybe you meant to type in mkfs.vfat instead ?
[17:34] <EriC^^> thanks nacc
[17:34] <EriC^^> dara: yeah, type sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 :)
[17:34] <nacc> EriC^^: np
[17:36] <ioria> dara, what's your video card ? maybe we can come up with something
[17:36] <dara> EriC^^: that did it dude, thanks a whole bunch
[17:36] <dara> it works
[17:36] <EriC^^> np, i'd recommend to follow ioria 's advice
[17:36] <lol768> Where's my CVE-2018-11235 fixed package?
[17:37] <za1b1tsu> I just tried to boot Ubuntu Gnome on a macbook pro from work and everthing works flawlessly: touchpad, sound, brightness/volume buttons, hibernation, hidpi etc. Is this because of Gnome or because of ubuntu? Could I go with an ubuntu server install with openbox and everything will just work?
[17:37] <EriC^^> using an eol release is kind of like that game with the chairs, you dont want to be the one with no chair left when the music stops :D
[17:37] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Hey, I have been able successfully dual boot ubuntu. Thanks a lot man!
[17:37] <pewds11> to*
[17:37] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, Did you try the webcam?
[17:37] <EriC^^> pewds11: great! no problem
[17:37] <dara> Eric^^: one more thing while we're at it, when i try to eject the usb drive safely , it says the device is running
[17:37] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: not yet, will try
[17:38] <EriC^^> dara: try to manually unmount it, sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[17:38] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, To answer your question, it's because of the support or the community.
[17:38] <Insanity1> I have a small issue. Through my amp/dac (USB) I only get sound through one earphone (left), but can not seem to figure out why (it does work both sides with speakers)
 Where's my CVE-2018-11235 fixed package? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-11235.html
[17:38] <Insanity1> Alsamixer shows only one 'channel' though, maybe it is being transformed to mono and send to only one earphone
[17:38] <lol768> Gah
[17:38] <oerheks> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2018-11235
[17:38] <lol768> Debian managed it :/
[17:39] <oerheks> yes, yesterday, so hold on tight
[17:39] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: I understand, but the configurations are from Gnome or Ubuntu?
[17:39] <oerheks> lol768,  is this you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/+bug/1774061
[17:39] <dara> EriC^^: it processes fine, it doesn't show an error yet the usb is still mounted
[17:40] <lol768> Nope
[17:40] <oerheks> for the time being; use the ppa https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/+bug/1774061/comments/5
[17:40] <EriC^^> dara: what does 'lsblk' show?
[17:40] <lol768> I'll follow the workaround for now though
[17:40] <lol768> cheers
[17:40] <EriC^^> dara: did it give the command prompt back?
[17:41] <EriC^^> (the umount command)
[17:41] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, both. More Ubuntu than Gnome, much more.
[17:42] <dara> EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/25FzPhbBfb/
[17:42] <dara> yeah, it gave the command prompt back
[17:42] <DeathTickle1> Another bug I have is when using my bluetooth wireless headphones: when I turn them on, the OS tries to connect to them but fails, and tries this in succession 3-4 times then stops
[17:42] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, Example, the only problem I ran into with 16.04 was the webcam not working OOB.
[17:43] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: what mac?
[17:43] <DeathTickle1> when I use bluetoothctl I can see the device getting disconnect and connected again but it is not stable. And then when I type connect to the device using bluetoothctl all works fine
[17:44] <JimBuntu> Mid-2015 MBP, za1b1tsu
[17:45] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: Retina 15 inch? I got the same mac :). Did you manage to fix the webcam?
[17:45] <EriC^^> dara: hmm, try "sudo umount /media/24B0-6470 && lsblk"
[17:46] <JimBuntu> Yeah, Retina 15". za1b1tsu , previously I did by following instructions online. I didn't bother when I reloaded fresh last time as I don't need it on that machine. I seem to remember it was basically a simple task of building the module.
[17:47] <dara> EriC^^: that's ok, thanks for the help dude, it's people like you that make using linux such a great experience :-)
[17:47] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: ahh cool, may I ask you some questions? Did you try other DE? Or tried WM only setups? How do they work? Do you use TLP for battery life? Any tips?
[17:49] <JimBuntu> I stuck with the default DE. I don't use anything special for battery life, although I do notice that my battery never seems to reach 100%, it does last an awefully long time given it's age. I don't like the KB and touch... so I normally use it as part of a larger system of machines with a single KB/trackball for them all.
[17:49] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, We are straying from support, want to move to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:49] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: cheers, moving
[17:50] <isene> EriC^^: This solved the syndaemon issue: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2316240
[17:53] <EriC^^> isene: cool, thanks for sharing :)
[17:59] <watermark> Hello. I'm pulling my hair out over netplan. I have a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 server and it cannot get DHCP. Can anyone help point me in the right direction.
[18:02] <nikolam> watermark, is it 64-bit? Server is now 64-bit by default
[18:03] <nikolam> network config is in /etc/network/interfaces , anyway
[18:03] <nikolam> and ifconfig would say what interface it is for auto watermark
[18:04] <watermark> nikolam: 18.04 introduced a whole new network config stack, it's not configured in network/interfaces anymore
[18:06] <Bashing-om> nikolam: watermark :: Netplan/server configs now under /etc/systemd/network/ .
[18:06] <oerheks> watermark, is this bare metal, or wsl/vmware something else?
[18:07] <nikolam> huh, so what docs say, then
[18:07] <watermark> oerheks: it's vmware.  adapter is vmxnet 3
[18:08] <watermark> Bashing-om: This is a fresh install and "/etc/systemd/network/" is empty
[18:09] <nikolam> congratulations on systemd takeover, btw
[18:09] <oerheks> whole post on vmware .. https://github.com/vmware/open-vm-tools/issues/240
[18:09] <oerheks> vmware-tools issue, wait for their update
[18:09] <Bashing-om> watermark: network mamager intalled to this server ? ' dpkg -l network-manager ' .
[18:11] <watermark> Bashing-om: no. If I recall, that's the gui manager?
[18:12] <Bashing-om> watermark: true for network-manager .. just checking which way you went .
[18:17] <nikolam> isn't using proprietary vmware, like shooting yourself in the foot, anyway. So many other options, with support.
[18:19] <oerheks> nikolam, i wonder why a server needs dhcp
[18:20] <oerheks> "Yaml files are very picky about correct indentation. Place two spacebars before the bridges keyword and the error message should go away." https://askubuntu.com/questions/1039646/netplan-complains-unknown-key-bridges
[18:24] <watermark> Did another fresh install using alternative installer and it's happy. Don't know why the first install borked
[18:25] <watermark> oerheks: using server as a minimal install, so it's not a real server. VMWare because we started using it before there were other viable alternatives (the wheels of change spin slow here)
[18:25] <Bashing-om> watermark: :)
[18:36] <_KaszpiR_> slow is usually stable....
[18:48] <s77> hi
[18:49] <s77> When I do a command I want to force a 'y' with it. In order to avoid typing y to proceed. Any tips?
[18:49] <ioria> there a command for that : try man yes
[18:50] <s77> o
[18:50] <s77> k
[18:51] <oerheks> -f -y .. awesome
[18:52] <granjero> hi, i got a question. Ubuntu server 18.04. I see /etc/network/interfaces is gone.  I'm reading about netplan. I got a file on /etc/netplan called 50-cloud-init-yaml. Is the only file in that directory. It has a comment that says that changes on that file will not be persistent. I want to fix a static ip address.
[18:53] <granjero> Do i have to delete that file and create a new one with sudo netplan generate?
[18:53] <empedokles78> Someone helped me to delete my files of a mp3walkman earlier, the music is there and it's playing in rhytmbox. Unfortunately not by the mp3 player anymore. there are a bunch of files inside my main folder now: FSCK0000.REC up to FSCK0005.REC. Do they have anything to do with the issue?
[18:56] <Buoy172> I have access to a Caddy server. How can I check if php is installed
[18:56] <Buoy172> ?
[18:57] <Bashing-om> Buoy172: Try as ' apt policy php ' .
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> granjero: check #ubuntu-server channel perhaps
[18:57] <granjero> ok lotuspsychje thnx
[18:57] <Buoy172> thanks guys
[19:01] <ioria> empedokles78, most probably those files are result of a rescue on the devoce fs
[19:01] <ioria> *device
[19:05] <empedokles78> ioria, shall I delete them and see if it works?
[19:06] <Two_Dogs> empedokles78: what is 'it'? works
[19:07] <ioria> empedokles78, i have no experience with mp3walkman ; what kind of fs it supports/wants ?
[19:07] <empedokles78> Two_Dogs, my sony walkman. maybe it says data error when I try to play a song currently.
[19:08] <empedokles78> However in my computer I can play files on it.
[19:09] <Two_Dogs> empedokles78: your external device 'walkman' is broken?
[19:09] <DeathTickle1> Does anyone know if it is possible to mount an ecryptfs (the Private directory in my home) on a Windows or Mac OS, in case my Linux system fails ?
[19:10] <empedokles78> Two_Dogs, I'm not sure (if it's broken why does the mp3 play on my local computer?)
[19:10] <ioria> empedokles78,  'cause it uses it as a simple storage device
[19:10] <Two_Dogs> empedokles78: the player on the installed ubuntu system is working correctly, yes?
[19:10] <Southern_Gentlem> DeathTickle1,  keep a live usb around in case of emergency
[19:11] <ioria> empedokles78,  like a usb pen
[19:12] <DeathTickle1> Southern_Gentlem: and if I want to have an encrypted filesystem accessible from multiple OSes at the same time ? is that possible
[19:13] <empedokles78> ioria, I'm not sure if the player is more than a usb-pen. :)
[19:13] <empedokles78> so shall I delete those FSCK0000.REC up to FSCK0005.REC now?
[19:13] <empedokles78> or do they have nothing to do with it?
[19:14] <empedokles78> mp3s are in a folder /MUSIC on my player.
[19:14] <ioria> empedokles78,  ok, if you unplug the device and try to play some mp3 ... does it work ?
[19:14] <empedokles78> and these mentioned are inside the root folder.
[19:14] <empedokles78> ioria, no, it states data error.
[19:15] <ioria> empedokles78,  as i said
[19:15] <Two_Dogs> root folder mp3's :)
[19:15] <mdsaddam> how i install ibus avro
[19:16] <mdsaddam> keyboard
[19:16] <empedokles78> Two_Dogs, https://imgur.com/a/9p7qRVI
[19:17] <empedokles78> ioria, you said "most probably those files are result of a rescue on the devoce fs", not sure if I can delete these.
[19:18] <empedokles78> the guy who helped my di something with fsck because I couldn't delete files anymore.
[19:20] <Two_Dogs> empedokles78: the img is the innards of an external device
[19:20] <empedokles78> Two_Dogs, it is.
[19:20] <ioria> empedokles78, if you ask me,the point is not those .rec files ,but your device  been corrupted and need to be reseted  to defaults  (probably  with the software it comes with)
[19:20] <AuroraAvenue> Hello , I am looking for a little lock for my laptop satchel, but don't know where to look, as I have searched amazon, and cannot find one ?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> tnewman: did you got any further?
[19:21] <empedokles78> ioria, does it hurt to delete them before I go into factory reset?
[19:21] <pavlos> AuroraAvenue: do you mean a Kensington lock?
[19:22] <ioria> empedokles78, to be honest, no idea; but save your files, reset with its own sw and smile
[19:22] <AuroraAvenue> Nope - not to lock the laptop in-place, but actually to lock up the laptop bag.
[19:24] <oerheks> AuroraAvenue, call jeff bezos, this is ubuntu linux support
[19:25] <AuroraAvenue> okay oerheks I shall stop now, if you've no other suggestions.
[19:29] <nacc> AuroraAvenue: it's offtopic for this channel, regardless of other suggestions.
[19:30] <empedokles78> That didn't help. But how to factory reset a WALKMAN NW-WS410 Series? I only see MAC/WINDOWS steps: https://www.sony.ch/de/electronics/support/digital-music-players-nw-nwz-ws-series/nw-ws414
[19:31] <B1ack0p> Hello
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> B1ack0p: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:31] <B1ack0p> I cant login to ubuntu. It is doing something like this : https://unsee.cc/a28b8a24/
[19:31] <B1ack0p> Thx lotuspsychje
[19:31] <Two_Dogs> empedokles78: you are in the wrong place
[19:32] <jnewt> need help scanning a document with simple scan.  it quit working and i've been unable to fix it.   I can select the scanner, but when i try to scan, it says unable to connect to scanner.
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> jnewt: your system up to date, wich ubuntu version?
[19:33] <ioria> empedokles78,  you might need wind*/mac whatever   system  it requires
[19:33] <empedokles78> ioria, well I didn't require it so far.
[19:33] <Two_Dogs> jnewt:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl --dmesg --pri=3 ## anything related to scan
[19:34] <B1ack0p> Hello?
[19:34] <enrico_> irc.artikanet.org
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !patience | B1ack0p
[19:34] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: no image for me there
[19:34] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/a28b8a24/
[19:34] <EriC^^> oh ok, nevermind
[19:34] <B1ack0p> No?
[19:34] <B1ack0p> Ok
[19:35] <ioria> empedokles78,  because so far the device had no need to be reseted ? (as i said idk WALKMAN NW-WS410 )
[19:35] <B1ack0p> It is hanging there, nothing running
[19:35] <B1ack0p> Stuck
[19:35] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: what happens when you press ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> B1ack0p: ubuntu version?
[19:35] <B1ack0p> No idea what it is
[19:35] <B1ack0p> Ubuntu 18.04
[19:35] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: try ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f7
[19:35] <xirg> leftyb, any explanation why x11vnc worked but other vnc servers didn't?
[19:35] <B1ack0p> Eric nothing
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> B1ack0p: upgrade? clean install?
[19:36] <B1ack0p> Lotus clean install
[19:36] <B1ack0p> Yesterday i installed Bleach to make cleanup
[19:36] <EriC^^> it's got to show something on f1 or f7, maybe you need to press Fn ?
[19:36] <AuroraAvenue> thank-you bye [ jnewt try  https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm  ]
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> B1ack0p: perhaps try a recoverymode
[19:37] <B1ack0p> I chose all of the options and some of them warned me very slow process
[19:37] <B1ack0p> Also it warned that root has low space
[19:37] <B1ack0p> Is it related?
[19:37] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: hmm seems like it's waiting for snapd to fully seed or something
[19:38] <B1ack0p> I waited half an hour bur nothing happening :/
[19:38] <B1ack0p> But
[19:38] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: yeah something is wrong for sure
[19:38] <B1ack0p> :/
[19:40] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: try booting into recovery mode
[19:40] <B1ack0p> Eric how?
[19:40] <EriC^^> do you get the grub menu currently?
[19:40] <B1ack0p> With installation image?
[19:40] <EriC^^> no
[19:40] <B1ack0p> Yes i get grub
[19:41] <B1ack0p> I am dual booting with win 10
[19:41] <EriC^^> ok, go to advanced then choose the latest kernel with recovery mode
[19:41] <jnewt> lotuspsychje: 16.04 LTS
[19:41] <B1ack0p> In grub menu there is memtest
[19:41] <jnewt> Two_Dogs, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4g2kdMYV2p/ nothing related to scan that I can see
[19:41] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: what about advanced?
[19:41] <B1ack0p> Ok found recovery
[19:41] <EriC^^> ok cool
[19:41] <B1ack0p> Still same
[19:41] <jnewt> AuroraAvenue: would like to fix what I'm used to here as opposed to just abandoning and starting over.
[19:42] <B1ack0p> Ok i got recovery menu
[19:42] <B1ack0p> Resume - clean - dpkg - fsck - grub - network - root - system summary
[19:42] <B1ack0p> Which one?
[19:43] <memphisto> B1ack0p: try clean first; you said root is full
[19:43] <Nach0z> a/w 94
[19:43] <tomreyn> i'd start with fsck, then clean
[19:43] <EriC^^> B1ack0p: resume
[19:43] <B1ack0p> Did clean
[19:43] <EriC^^> yeah do what tomreyn said
[19:43] <B1ack0p> I am on root now
[19:44] <EriC^^> try to resume
[19:44] <B1ack0p> Screen flackering
[19:45] <EriC^^> did you get the login screen?
[19:45] <B1ack0p> No luck
[19:46] <oerheks> dual booting with win 10 .. disabled fastboot and the other intel stuff?
[19:46] <oerheks> !uefi
[19:46] <bionicbone> hi all, anyone know if the ubuntu keyserver is rate limited or something? I uploading a pub signing key ok, then later revoked it and pushed it again. I create a new key with diff uid and it wont show up.
[19:46] <memphisto> B1ack0p: what did you...- clean -fsck; did you do dpkg?
[19:46] <bionicbone> even though i get no errors when i push the new key
[19:46] <B1ack0p> It says failed to start mysql server
[19:47] <B1ack0p> And screen flickering
[19:47] <B1ack0p> No i did clean and then resume
[19:47] <sylv255> thank you very much to you because grace to you I will succeed my application !
[19:47] <sylv255> a last question :
[19:48] <B1ack0p> Can mysql be problem?
[19:48] <memphisto> go back in rescue mode and try fsck, dpkg and resume
[19:48] <memphisto> no
[19:48] <B1ack0p> Ok
[19:48] <B1ack0p> Fsck now
[19:48] <B1ack0p> Does it take long time fsck?
[19:49] <tomreyn> bionicbone: i'm not sure whether it takes submissions from anyone or just a chosen few. maybe there's some integration with launchpad. i'd ask in #canonical, preferrably during UK during business hours (after checking any available documentation online).
[19:49] <B1ack0p> Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status.
[19:49] <bionicbone> tomreyn: it accepted my first key upload without any special permissions
[19:49] <B1ack0p> Waiting...
[19:49] <bionicbone> or creating an account of any kind
[19:50] <tomreyn> bionicbone: so the key you submitted initially would show up on a later search for it?
[19:50] <tomreyn> (it might have been silently discuarded when you posted it)
[19:51] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: fsck doesn't usually take long, at least if there's no major corruption going on.
[19:51] <bionicbone> tomreyn: yes, I uploaded RSA pub signing key, then I could see it in keyserver search and also download it from keyserver. I later revoked that, pushed the update and generated a new key with different UID.
[19:52] <bionicbone> It wont let me push the key with new uid, not sure if its because the email is the same as original revoked key or what.
[19:52] <taking> is the ubuntu tablet os still available to play with on this convertable i have here?
[19:52] <tomreyn> bionicbone: i see. i wouldn't know thern, seek support with canonical staff who maintain this infrastructure (i assume)
[19:53] <B1ack0p> Still waiting
[19:53] <sambagirl> is the ubuntu tablet os still available to play with on this convertable i have here?
[19:53] <sambagirl> sorry about that
[19:53] <B1ack0p> Nothing happening
[19:53] <tomreyn> bionicbone: if it's linked to the SKS keyserver network you could also submit your updates to any other sks keyserver in any of the hks pools (see https://sks-keyservers.net)
[19:54] <sambagirl> seveas are you around?
[19:54] <tomreyn> !phone | sambagirl
[19:54] <sambagirl> thanks tomreyn
[19:55] <sambagirl> chanel is empty
[19:55] <pnwise> How do you pass list of names from file to find?
[19:55] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: is it still at "Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status" then?
[19:55] <B1ack0p> Yes tomreyn
[19:55] <tomreyn> sambagirl: :-/ well this project is no longer driven by canonical, so i don't know what it's status is now.
[19:56] <B1ack0p> I think it is fked up
[19:56] <memphisto> B1ack0p: sorry, where are you now...you did fsck ?
[19:57] <B1ack0p> Memphis it is stuck in fsck load save rf kill status
[19:57] <tomreyn> BlackDex: reboot (ctrl-alt-delete), do recovery again, then fsck, then network, then root, then type: df -h 2>&1 | pastebinit; apt-get update 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:58] <B1ack0p> Me?
[19:58] <B1ack0p> I cant pass fsck yet
[19:59] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: yes you. oh it gets stuck during the fsck you ran from the menu?
[19:59] <B1ack0p> Yes from menu
[19:59] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: is this a hard disk drive?
[20:00] <B1ack0p> Tomreyn yes ssd
[20:00] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: you said it's a dual boot ubuntu + windows, right?
[20:00] <B1ack0p> Yes
[20:00] <B1ack0p> Correct
[20:00] <bionicbone> tomreyn: that might be it, its listed as red/down and not in the pool in that listing
[20:00] <memphisto> B1ack0p: are you able to boot windows?
[20:00] <B1ack0p> Yes memphis
[20:01] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: boot into windows, download the ssd vendor's utility to check the ssd for defects and run it, doing a full test cycle.
[20:01] <bionicbone> ill check if i can find my key on a different server first, if it is on another server that means it must have been in the pool earlier when I added my key
[20:01] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: if it confirms that the ssd is fine then (unless you'll loose data this way) reinstall ubuntu.
[20:01] <B1ack0p> When i run fsck at first line it says there s no such directory
[20:02] <B1ack0p> I cant read it well because it scrolls down fast
[20:02] <memphisto> reboot the pc, go to rescu
[20:02] <memphisto> drop to root and do the fsck manually
[20:02] <memphisto> to see whats going on
[20:03] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:03] <memphisto> first do lsblk
[20:03] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: this is a freshly installed ubuntu system you said, right? or did it every work properly?
[20:03] <memphisto> so we now how it looks like
[20:03] <memphisto> *know
[20:03] <tomreyn> *ever
[20:03] <B1ack0p> Tomreyn i said i clean installed not upgrade. I was running fine since it was released
[20:04] <bionicbone> I was searching for the wrong term, searching by email now shows all my keys and the revocation cert.
[20:04] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: so it stopped working suddenly, without you making any major changes?
[20:04] <B1ack0p> I am on root
[20:05] <B1ack0p> tomreyn i installed mysql yesterday
[20:05] <B1ack0p> Then It warned there is low space in root dir
[20:05] <B1ack0p> Then i installed bleach to make cleanup
[20:05] <memphisto> ok, so what does df -h looks like
[20:05] <B1ack0p> It was working fine yesterday
[20:06] <tomreyn> df -h | pastebinit
[20:06] <B1ack0p> Today i couldnt login
[20:06] <B1ack0p> Wait
[20:06] <B1ack0p> I am on mobile here
[20:07] <roboto> anyone: Ubuntu 17.10. Audio and Video, I can get test sound. Have no sound anywhere else. This just started today. Ideas?
[20:07] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/6d991f0b/
[20:07] <memphisto> its full
[20:07] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: right, so / is full. maybe it's why it wont boot.
[20:08] <B1ack0p> What can i do?
[20:08] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: fsck -f /dev/sda6
[20:09] <tomreyn> and show another screensht when it's done.
[20:09] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: also this imagebin is terrible, i don't need your ip address as a watermark.
[20:09] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:10] <B1ack0p> Oh does it show my ip? :o
[20:10] <roboto-home> anyone: Ubuntu 17.10. Audio and Video, I can get test sound. Have no sound anywhere else. This just started today after I rebooted after updates. Ideas?
[20:10] <B1ack0p> Imgur is blocked in my location so what do u suggest?
[20:10] <memphisto> its fine ..its visible
[20:11] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/8a9a9ee6/
[20:12] <roboto-home> shows no output devices found when clicking the speaker icon in the taskbar
[20:12] <gunix> is 16.04 defaulting to xorg or wayland ?
[20:13] <memphisto> apt remove mysql you were trying to type
[20:13] <memphisto> please also try this...
[20:13] <oerheks> gunix, xorg, 16.10 was the 1st release with wayland option
[20:13] <memphisto> cd /
[20:13] <memphisto> for i in $(ls);do du -s $i;done
[20:13] <gunix> oerheks: thank you!
[20:13] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: actually this site watermarks with the ip address of the accessing web browser, so it shows mine in my case. https://pasteboard.co/ seems to be ok (but i have an ad blocker, YMMV)
[20:14] <roboto-home> ok. time for new distro. bye
[20:14] <B1ack0p> Memphis i dont get it
[20:14] <B1ack0p> Yes
[20:14] <memphisto> just type
[20:14] <memphisto> for i in $(ls /);do du -s $i;done
[20:14] <memphisto> and make a screenshot
[20:16] <B1ack0p> Memphis https://unsee.cc/b10f9717/
[20:17] <B1ack0p> How can i scroll up?
[20:17] <memphisto> shift+page up
[20:17] <memphisto> but you go in root folder first
[20:17] <memphisto> cd /root
[20:17] <memphisto> and just do a ls
[20:17] <memphisto> ls -al
[20:17] <B1ack0p> I am in root already
[20:18] <memphisto> ok, type ls -al /root
[20:18] <memphisto> and screenshot
[20:18] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/e669aea9/
[20:19] <memphisto> du /root
[20:20] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/b2a87542/
[20:21] <memphisto> rm -rf /root/.cache
[20:21] <memphisto> du /root
[20:21] <memphisto> screenshot
[20:21] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:21] <B1ack0p> Rm cannot remove
[20:22] <B1ack0p> Read only file
[20:22] <memphisto>  mount -o remount rw /
[20:22] <tomreyn> mount -o remount,rw /
[20:23] <tomreyn> WITH the comma
[20:23] <B1ack0p> Done
[20:23] <memphisto> screenshot
[20:23] <B1ack0p> Nothing happened
[20:23] <tomreyn> rm -rf /root/.cache; du /root; # screenshot
[20:24] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/47d9543d/
[20:24] <tomreyn> be very careful with the rm -rf command, though
[20:24] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: ^
[20:24] <tomreyn> as in typing it as given
[20:24] <B1ack0p> I wish i know what i am doing
[20:25] <memphisto> you should type the following now
[20:25] <memphisto> rm -rf /root/.cache; du /root
[20:25] <B1ack0p> Isnt it correct?
[20:25] <memphisto> and send a screenshot
[20:25] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:25] <JimBuntu> You are remounting the partition in read/write mode... then they have your clearing out a cache directory to return the 1,113,504 it was consuming
[20:26] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/d043e7a8/
[20:26] <JimBuntu> and to clear out any settings/configs/etc that may have been cached there, I presume.
[20:26] <tomreyn> here's a slightly improved receursive du again: for i in $(ls /);do du -sx /$i 2>/dev/null;done | sort -n | pastebinit
[20:27] <B1ack0p> Jim thx
[20:27] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: why are we focussing on /root ?
[20:27] <B1ack0p> Tomreyn because it was full i guess
[20:27] <memphisto> do now
[20:28] <memphisto> df -h /
[20:28] <memphisto> screenshot\
[20:28] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:29] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: 1 GB, yes, ok.
[20:29] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/3779ee7e/
[20:29] <B1ack0p> 11 gb
[20:29] <memphisto> now do the for loop that tomreyn wrote and take a screenshot
[20:29] <tomreyn> i ean /root had ~ 1GB data (now much less)
[20:29] <B1ack0p> I think i made mistake by giving specific partition to root while installing ubuntu
[20:30] <tomreyn> *mean
[20:30] <tomreyn> actually i'd just retry booting now.
[20:30] <memphisto> 1GB free should be enough to make a system bootable
[20:32] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: sorry i didnt actually mean to ask *you* that 'why are we focussing on /root' question but memphisto. but it's clear now.
[20:32] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/04573595/
[20:33] <B1ack0p> Tomreyn i did your long command
[20:33] <memphisto> lose the last |
[20:33] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:33] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: you missed the trailing "pastebinit". but if you'll use your camera to screenshot you can just omit the trailing " | pastebinit"
[20:33] <B1ack0p> If i can go back to root
[20:33] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: what memphisto said
[20:34] <memphisto> ctrl+D
[20:34] <tomreyn> press ctrl-c
[20:36] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/708335a1/
[20:37] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/4462b4b1/
[20:38] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: not sure what you have in /opt (it's empty by default), but i'd sa yjust reboot now
[20:39] <B1ack0p> Good news
[20:39] <B1ack0p> I am in now
[20:39] <B1ack0p> Thank you guys !
[20:39] <B1ack0p> Memphis and tomreyn
[20:39] <tomreyn> is it coming up fine then?
[20:39] <B1ack0p> I will reboot normally and try again
[20:40] <memphisto> how much of your disk has been reserved for windows and how much for linux
[20:40] <memphisto> ?
[20:40] <B1ack0p> Yes it comes normally now
[20:40] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: to prevent such issues in the future, when you'll run server type services such as mysqld, which store data in /var, have both a separate 7home and /var partition.
[20:40] <B1ack0p> Memphis my ssd is 240gb
[20:40] <B1ack0p> I gave about 170 for windows and 60 ubuntu
[20:41] <B1ack0p> 8 for swap 11 for root rest is home
[20:42] <B1ack0p> It warned again
[20:42] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/9040f409/
[20:42] <memphisto> id put 2G for swap; at least 20GB for root (/); and rest home
[20:43] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: "again"? so it warned before, and *someone* ignored this warning? ;)
[20:43] <B1ack0p> Low disk space on “filesystem root”
[20:43] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: that is correct.
[20:44] <B1ack0p> What can i do?
[20:44] <Besi> how install the Nvidia 390.59 driver ????
[20:44] <B1ack0p> I wish i didnt attend partition for root
[20:44] <memphisto> why didn't you use suggested partitioning scheme in installer ?
[20:44] <pavlos> do you need /opt
[20:45] <B1ack0p> Memphis i read somewhere it is better to atten specific partition for root home tmp boot etc
[20:45] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: as pavlos suggested, choose "examine" and see what's in /opt
[20:46] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: can be and can be not, dpends on use case. with little overall space it may be better to have only few or just one partition for increased flexibility.
[20:46] <B1ack0p> https://unsee.cc/846f7004/
[20:47] <memphisto> well 11GB for all the apps, all the temp files
[20:47] <Besi> how install the Nvidia 390.59 driver ????
[20:47] <memphisto> see the picture you sent...4.6GB for user data
[20:47] <B1ack0p> I gave 60 for all ubuntu what happened that?
[20:47] <memphisto> easy
[20:47] <memphisto> you gave 60GB for home partition
[20:48] <memphisto> place where you put pictures, movies
[20:48] <B1ack0p> For documents?
[20:48] <memphisto> documents
[20:48] <memphisto> yes
[20:48] <B1ack0p> Damn :/
[20:48] <memphisto> if you don't have anything on linux now, just do a clean install and let the installed partition it
[20:48] <B1ack0p> Can i change ? Or should I reinstall ubuntu?
[20:48] <B1ack0p> Ook got it
[20:48] <memphisto> easier to reinstall
[20:48] <B1ack0p> It is a lot of work :/
[20:49] <B1ack0p> Change theme install everything again
[20:49] <B1ack0p> Ok then i will just give swap area and /
[20:49] <B1ack0p> No more specific partition
[20:49] <memphisto> no
[20:49] <memphisto> just leave the automatic
[20:49] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: the other option *can* be to download and boot from gparted live and do it that way. but this can also break the installation.
[20:50] <B1ack0p> It is not automatic
[20:50] <B1ack0p> It asks me what to do
[20:50] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: how did oyu install?
[20:50] <tomreyn> which iso did you download
[20:50] <B1ack0p> 64bit from ubuntu web?
[20:51] <tomreyn> ubuntu 18.04 amd64 desktop installation?
[20:51] <B1ack0p> Yep
[20:51] <tomreyn> then it surely offers fully automatic partitioning
[20:51] <memphisto> Besi: download from https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1035485/b/t/post/5260307/#5260307
[20:52] <memphisto> presuming you are running 64bit version then download Linux x86_64
[20:52] <Besi> memphisto ok i Downloaded that ??
[20:52] <memphisto> chmod +x file_name
[20:52] <memphisto> ./file_name
[20:52] <memphisto> and follow the instructions
[20:53] <B1ack0p> Me?
[20:53] <memphisto> no, talking to Besi
[20:53] <B1ack0p> Oh ok
[20:53] <memphisto> Besi: there is a README also ...https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1035485/b/t/post/5260307/#5260307
[20:53] <memphisto> follow it
[20:53] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: can you open a terminal and run: lsblk | pastebinit
[20:54] <B1ack0p> Ok
[20:54] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: this should return a url, please post it
[20:55] <pavlos> B1ack0p: you could add the -fs flag ... lsblk -fs
[20:55] <B1ack0p> Brb
[20:55] <watermark> fyi, pastebinit isn't part of the base install
[20:55] <BlackOp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6pd9f5KW6b/
[20:55] <tomreyn> well i do care about sizes, pavlos
[20:56] <pavlos> ok
[20:56] <Besi> memphisto    ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root ??? how i get the Root Rights
[20:56] <BlackOp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JK4xhCDR8C/
[20:56] <tomreyn> oh snap, i guess we'll get to see such more commonly nowadays
[20:56] <nacc> tomreyn: what is being seen? (sorry no context)
[20:57] <tomreyn> nacc: plenty of loop storage devices
[20:57] <nacc> tomreyn: ah yes
[20:58] <tomreyn> (and much wasted space)
[20:58] <nacc> tomreyn: but that in and of itself isn't an issue -- is there a bug or something?
[20:58] <memphisto> Besi; sudo su - to become root; then try running init 3 (don't know if it will work....) you will be without X (no GUI, no windows); then go to folder where you downloaded and run the file as previously mentioned
[20:58] <tomreyn> nacc: no, just my lack of comfort with snap, that's the only issue
[20:58] <nacc> tomreyn: :)
[20:59] <nacc> memphisto: `sudo -s -H` has some benefits over `sudo su`
[21:00] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: so you could (download and wriote to usb stick and) boot from gparted-live and shrink /home (sda4) and and extend / /sda6)
[21:01] <pavlos> B1ack0p: dont use the fs flag, just lsblk | pastebin so we can see sizes
[21:01] <B1ack0p> tomreyn: does it harm any partition?
[21:01] <Besi> memphisto not working this is  complicated for my brain
[21:01] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: you could additionally shrink swap (sda5), but that's not strictly mandatory nad might introduce issues.
[21:01] <B1ack0p> tomreyn: i better clean install it
[21:01] <memphisto> Besi: wait for it to be in the repos ...its easier
[21:01] <B1ack0p> but not today
[21:02] <B1ack0p> also i dont know how to partition the hdd
[21:02] <matjam> nacc: I tend to use sudo -i
[21:02] <B1ack0p> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6pd9f5KW6b/
[21:02] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: it should not harm your parition table, aprtitions or file systems (and the data stored on them), but you should always be sure to have full, proven restorable, remote backups before experimenting with shuffling around and resizing artitions and file systems.
[21:03] <memphisto> B1ack0p: good, but for now just remove some software to free up some space
[21:03] <B1ack0p> there are duplicated apps
[21:03] <nacc> matjam: yeah that's also reasonable
[21:03] <B1ack0p> such as skype and gimp
[21:03] <B1ack0p> why is that?
[21:03] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: that's the same link you posted previously.
[21:03] <nacc> B1ack0p: two versions of the snap
[21:03] <B1ack0p> yes
[21:04] <B1ack0p> so i want to uninstall one of them
[21:04] <nacc> B1ack0p: it's not super important, but is how snaps work
[21:04] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: you can remove the old verison if you dont need it
[21:04] <memphisto> no thats just snap version of the program
[21:04] <nacc> B1ack0p: they aren't taking up space in practice, just memory
[21:04] <B1ack0p> ok
[21:05] <B1ack0p> i do sudo apt remove skype but doesnt find it
[21:05] <memphisto> cause its a snap
[21:05] <B1ack0p> weird
[21:05] <nacc> B1ack0p: it's not a deb packge, it's a sanp
[21:05] <nacc> *snap
[21:05] <Besi> memphisto    but here come another Error   ERROR: An NVIDIA kernel module 'nvidia-drm' appears to already be loaded in            your kernel.  This may be because it is in use (for example, by an X            server, a CUDA program, or the NVIDIA Persistence Daemon), but this             may also happen if your kernel was configured without support for               module unloading.  Please be sure to exit any programs that may be   
[21:05] <B1ack0p> so how can i remove it?
[21:05] <nacc> and you don't want to remove it, as that will remove both versions, B1ack0p
[21:05] <nacc> B1ack0p: why do you care?
[21:05] <pavlos> B1ack0p: I think the name is skypeforlinux
[21:05] <nacc> B1ack0p: what are you actually trying to solve right now -- that both versions are mounted is completely irrelevant to you as a user
[21:06] <B1ack0p> sudo snap remove skype worked
[21:06] <memphisto> nacc: he wants to free some space
[21:06] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: apt manages debian (deb) packages, snap manages snaps. the graphical ubuntu software center installs snaps whereas synaptic would install deb's
[21:06] <nacc> memphisto: then that's the wrong place to look
[21:06] <nacc> B1ack0p: snaps don't take up on-disk space
[21:06] <B1ack0p> it is confusing..
[21:07] <memphisto> snap is image; it takes some space
[21:07] <nacc> memphisto: not the mounted thing
[21:07] <memphisto> true
[21:07] <nacc> you are both confusing two different things
[21:07] <memphisto> but he is removeing snap software
[21:07] <B1ack0p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Yq9Jpv65g/
[21:08] <nacc> also i'm 99% sure removing the snap doesn't necessarily delete it from the local cache
[21:08] <nacc> which means the disk is still used
[21:08] <nacc> B1ack0p: if you are low on disk space, snaps are not relevant
[21:08] <B1ack0p> so what makes it full?
[21:08] <nacc> B1ack0p: what was the purpose of pasting that again?
[21:08] <nacc> B1ack0p: makes *what* full?
[21:08] <B1ack0p> what makes space full?
[21:09] <nacc> B1ack0p: ... what space is full? you need to start over and be clear.
[21:09] <tomreyn>  /
[21:09] <B1ack0p> ook
[21:09] <B1ack0p> never mind
[21:10] <memphisto> :)
[21:10] <nacc> B1ack0p: use `du -h --max-depth=1 /`
[21:10] <B1ack0p> i will clean install everything soon
[21:10] <tomreyn> the root partition is pretty full
[21:10] <pavlos> based on the recent df, / is 11.2G and 900MB free
[21:10] <nacc> B1ack0p: snaps are mounted in /snap and do not use any physical disk in /
[21:10] <nacc> *loopback-mounted
[21:10] <B1ack0p> so it uses from ram
[21:11] <pavlos> iirc, /opt is about 1.5G ... can you clean that?
[21:11] <B1ack0p> how?
[21:11] <B1ack0p> what is opt btw?
[21:12] <nacc> !fhs | B1ack0p
[21:12] <B1ack0p> thx nacc
[21:12] <pavlos> a dir where apps install things ... ls -l /opt | pastebin
[21:12] <stacks88> On ubuntu 18.04, any time i install packages, It stalls on Processing triggers for  for like 3-5 minutes, then finally completes. How can I fix this?
[21:13] <stacks88> So it does work in the end but, theres this weird delay all the time
[21:13] <memphisto> stacks88: you wait
[21:13] <stacks88> on ubuntu 16.04 i wouldnt have to weait to install 1 tiny program
[21:13] <stacks88> less than 1 mb in size
[21:14] <stacks88> https://i.imgur.com/PkXuoOL.png
[21:14] <stacks88> now it finished
[21:14] <stacks88> I just thought other people were experiencing this. I guess not
[21:14] <B1ack0p> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cPXF2B4hxm/
[21:15] <B1ack0p> lampp and office 1.5gb it seems
[21:15] <pavlos> libreoffice6 in /opt?
[21:15] <B1ack0p> no idea pavlos
[21:15] <B1ack0p> why it is there
[21:16] <memphisto> its a snap image
[21:16] <B1ack0p> i installed libreoffice later
[21:16] <B1ack0p> it was not installed in ubuntu
[21:16] <nacc> memphisto: what?
[21:16] <nacc> memphisto: the thing in /opt is unrelated to the snap
[21:16] <nacc> B1ack0p: is this your system?
[21:16] <B1ack0p> nacc: yes mine but i am newbie on ubuntu
[21:16] <nacc> B1ack0p: saying "no idea" when you had to do thing as root on your system, is really bad :)
[21:17] <nacc> B1ack0p: you should 100% know what you are doing as root, and why. And know how to *undo* them, as well..
[21:17] <B1ack0p> while installing ubuntu i chose empty installation
[21:17] <B1ack0p> without preinstalled apps
[21:17] <B1ack0p> nacc: i am learning
[21:18] <B1ack0p> this channel is taught me many things about ubuntu so far
[21:18] <B1ack0p> if you had 240gb ssd how much would you give to win10 and ubuntu?
[21:18] <B1ack0p> i want to buy 500gb ssd but it is expensive..
[21:19] <B1ack0p> i have 1tb harddrive but ssd is much more faster than it
[21:19] <nacc> B1ack0p: that is not  question we can answer. You only know how much you use data in each, etc.
[21:19] <memphisto> 240 for ubuntu
[21:19] <B1ack0p> lol memphisto
[21:19] <B1ack0p> i wish but i need win sometimes unfortunately
[21:19] <B1ack0p> and damn win needs more space :/
[21:20] <pavlos> B1ack0p: how much data in /home? ... du -s /home
[21:21] <B1ack0p> pavlos: du: cannot read directory '/home/m/.dbus': Permission denied
[21:21] <matjam> someone used sudo
[21:22] <B1ack0p> 4751048/home
[21:23] <pavlos> B1ack0p: so there is 4.7GB used out of 38.8G in /home
[21:23] <B1ack0p> yes
[21:24] <B1ack0p> ok i will reinstall it soon
[21:24] <B1ack0p> i better sleep now
[21:24] <memphisto> can you go into /opt/libreoffice6.0
[21:25] <memphisto> B1ack0p: can you list the files there
[21:25] <B1ack0p> memphisto: yes
[21:25] <B1ack0p> all office is there
[21:26] <B1ack0p> 8,563 items, totalling 579.2 MB
[21:27] <memphisto> and what is in /opt/lampp
[21:27] <memphisto> and do you need it ?
[21:28] <B1ack0p> memphisto: i want to learn some php sql stuffs so i installed it
[21:28] <memphisto> how big is it
[21:29] <B1ack0p> approx 7--800mb
[21:29] <B1ack0p> still counting
[21:29] <B1ack0p> i gotta sleep
[21:29] <memphisto> good night
[21:30] <B1ack0p> thx memphisto for everything today and tomreyn and others too
[21:30] <B1ack0p> see ya later
[21:30] <B1ack0p> nite
[21:30] <Jerry> whats up
[21:32] <oerheks> !info whatsap
[21:32] <memphisto> justchillin
[21:32] <memphisto> :D
[21:40] <fightthe1alrus> hello, I ran apt-get dist-upgrade to update the kernel and the process has hanged on "Setting up linux-headers-4.15.0-22-generic (...)"
[21:41] <fightthe1alrus> should I Ctrl+C kill it and run something like dpkg --reconfigure or similar?
[21:41] <fightthe1alrus> More importantly, will this brick the system? It's stuck there for a good 30min
[21:42] <nacc> fightthe1alrus: well, the headers won't brick your system, but other pakcages that were upgraded in the same process might
[21:43] <nacc> fightthe1alrus: someone else complained of sommething similar yesterday
[21:44] <Two_Dogs> fightthe1alrus: i would reboot, if you see hang then reboot into last good kernel
[21:46] <fightthe1alrus> nacc: reading the log, it seems that mooooost of the packages already got installed, that seemed to be one of the last. I guess I'll try to fix straight with dpkg
[21:47] <fightthe1alrus> Two_Dogs: would you reboot immediately, or try to do something then reboot?
[21:47] <fightthe1alrus> (and what would that something be)
[21:48] <Two_Dogs> fightthe1alrus: iwould be more concerned about the kernel just because, so i boot and if kernel loads fine then the rest is just cleanup
[21:49] <Two_Dogs> fightthe1alrus: the dpkg thing you brought up i mean
[21:50] <fightthe1alrus> Two_Dogs: ok, guess I'll do that as soon as I finish some work here
[21:50] <Two_Dogs> aye
[21:51] <fightthe1alrus> nacc: you mentioneed that somebody had a similar problem yesterday... can you remember what was the fix?
[21:53] <nacc> fightthe1alrus: sadly no, you could check the log
[21:53] <nacc> *logs
[21:55] <Two_Dogs> fightthe1alrus: do you have more than two active kernel?
[21:55] <Two_Dogs> fightthe1alrus:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l linux-image*
[22:00] <fightthe1alrus> oh, that's a handy command to check packages, Two_Dogs
[22:00]  * fightthe1alrus makes a note to `man dpkg` later
[22:01] <fightthe1alrus> here it is mister https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F9kwfjVh9d/
[22:02] <pavlos> fightthe1alrus: I think the command should be, dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[22:02] <Laki_> anyone any good with awk? I'm trying to get it to fire any sort of command when a line contains the string as shown:   tail -f test.txt | awk 'Disconnected or forced to leave {print hello}'
[22:02] <fightthe1alrus> so... I guess for anyone else wondering about the problem, I think I just solved everything.
[22:03] <fightthe1alrus> What I did was kill the dpkg process (plain `sudo killall dpkg` worked just fine)
[22:03] <fightthe1alrus> then I ran `sudo dpkg --configure -a` and it bootstrapped from there
[22:04] <fightthe1alrus> That was the solution for me. Maybe other people can profit from this.
[22:04] <fightthe1alrus> Thanks goes to nacc and Two_Dogs for the hints.
[22:08] <Besi> Guys any Teamviewer alternative ???
[22:09] <Two_Dogs> Besi: 'nomachine'
[22:10] <oerheks> 2xgo, x over ssh
[22:10] <tgm4883> !ot | Besi
[22:10] <oerheks> unless you run a wayland session, then you have to wait for a solution
[22:10] <Two_Dogs> thats gonna be difficult on the ipad ^^
[22:11] <tgm4883> also, unable to answer the question unless you specifically state what part your trying to use
[22:11] <tomreyn> Besi: which functionality do you seek to replace?
[22:12] <Laki_> anyone any good with awk? I'm trying to get it to fire any sort of command when a line contains the string as shown:   tail -f test.txt | awk 'Disconnected or forced to leave {print hello}'
[22:14] <l__q> https://serverfault.com/questions/914677/gnutls-handshake-failed-error-in-the-push-function
[22:15] <l__q> maybe someone knows
[22:15] <tomreyn> Besi: maybe this helps https://alternativeto.net/software/teamviewer/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[22:16] <tomreyn> Laki_: wouldn't grep be a better match for it?
[22:16] <Laki_> tomreyn: yes but you can't execute anything from grep if there's a match?
[22:17] <tomreyn> tail -f test.txt | grep -qF 'Disconnected or forced to leave' && echo 'String was matched' || echo 'String was not matched'
[22:18] <tomreyn> Laki_: ^
[22:19] <Besi> Tomreyn Thanks
[22:19] <tomreyn> it would be more precise to evaluate grep's exit code properly, though.
[22:19] <Laki_> tomreyn: hmmmm this only does it once though and closes tail when its triggered?
[22:20] <tomreyn> Laki_: right, you wanrt ro run a command each time a matching line is found?
[22:21] <Laki_> tomreyn: Yeah that'd be spot on heh
[22:21] <Laki_> awk seems to be the way to go, apart from the fact it just doesnt work
[22:25] <nacc> Laki_: afaict, your awk has a syntax error
[22:25] <Laki_> nacc: yea ive tried loads of things with it now and it's just not budged
[22:26] <l__q> is that issue with openssl?
[22:26] <Laki_> nacc: simply trying to get it to read a tail -f and execute when it finds a word...
[22:26] <l__q> https://serverfault.com/questions/914677/gnutls-handshake-failed-error-in-the-push-function
[22:26] <nacc> Laki_: tail -f test.txt | awk '/Disconnected or forced to leave/ {print "hello";}'
[22:26] <nacc> Laki_: works fine here
[22:27] <Laki_> nacc: literally just done that, it's not doing anything ._.
[22:28] <nacc> Laki_: and i did as well and it works fine.
[22:28] <nacc> Laki_: how are you testing?
[22:29] <Laki_> nacc: program is running (./myprogram > test.txt) and then tail -f test.txt | awk  on another terminal
[22:29] <nacc> Laki_: and it's definitely emitting on stdout and not stderr?
[22:29] <Laki_> nacc: if I just tail -f test.txt , it ofcourse shows it all, so awk should be able to see it
[22:29] <nacc> Laki_: also that's a a terrible test.
[22:29] <nacc> Laki_: run the tail -f | awk
[22:30] <Laki_> nacc: I have no idea if its stdout or stderr
[22:30] <nacc> Laki_: then in a shell do `echo "Disconnected or forced to leave" >> test.txt`
[22:30] <nacc> Laki_: then you should probably be doing >test.txt 2>&1
[22:30] <Laki_> nacc: tail -f test.txt | awk just returns to shell
[22:31] <nacc> Laki_: obviously the regex we are talking about...
[22:31] <Laki_> nacc: im not quiet familiar with what stdout and stderr are
[22:31] <nacc> Laki_: `tail -f test.txt | awk '/Disconnected or forced to leave/ {print "hello";}'`
[22:31] <Laki_> nacc: again, nothing, its listening, but nothing
[22:31] <nacc> Laki_: then perhaps this is not something you need to be doing :) it's a pretty basic concept
[22:32] <nacc> Laki_: right, now in a separate shell, like i *just* said, append the string into the file
[22:32] <pavlos> Laki_: echo Disconnected >> test.txt from another term
[22:32] <nacc> it will need to be the full string with the version I suggested
[22:32] <Laki_> nacc: whilst it's listening yea?
[22:32] <nacc> Laki_: ...yes
[22:33] <nacc> "listening" is really the wrong term, but ok
[22:33] <Laki_> nacc: mkay, nothing happend again captain
[22:33] <nacc> Laki_: what did you, exactly, type?
[22:33] <Laki_> nacc: echo Disconnected >> test.txt and then echo "Disconnected" >> test.txt
[22:33] <nacc> Laki_: no.
[22:33] <Laki_> the listening awk didn't budge
[22:33] <nacc> Laki_: as I just said, you need to use the exact string
[22:33] <nacc> Laki_: echo "Disconnected or forced to leave" >> test.txt
[22:33] <Laki_> nacc: done, nothing
[22:34] <nacc> Laki_: are you in the same directory in both shells?
[22:34] <Laki_> nacc: yep, ofcourse
[22:34] <tomreyn> did you add the forward slashes to your awk command?
[22:34] <Laki_> nacc: deffo went into the test.txt
[22:34] <Laki_> nano'ing / tails on it shows it all up, yet awk still did nothing
[22:35] <tomreyn> i guess concrete command input and output is needed to assist you further.
[22:35] <nacc> Laki_: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V4NhrvRM6f/
[22:36] <nacc> Laki_: are you actually on ubuntu?
[22:36] <Laki_> nacc: yes lol
[22:37] <pavlos> open a term, echo bob >>text  another term, tail -f test | awk '/bob/ {print "hello"}'
[22:37] <tomreyn> text or test, not the same
[22:37] <pavlos> open a term, echo andy >> test
[22:38] <pavlos> my mistake
[22:38] <nacc> Laki_: what version of ubuntu?
[22:38] <Laki_> nacc: 18, does this help? https://i.imgur.com/rqCZkQ4.png lol
[22:39] <nacc> Laki_: you can do what pavlos is saying, or alternatively, let's break it down further
[22:39] <nacc> drop the awk
[22:39] <nacc> and just tail -f in one terminal and see if your echo's show up
[22:39] <Laki_> righto, not a problem. XD
[22:40] <nacc> Laki_: fwiw, i'm also on 18.04
[22:40] <Laki_> nacc: https://i.imgur.com/Fa7YO5P.png here you go!!
[22:41] <Laki_> mad isn't it?
[22:42] <nacc> Laki_: i'd try pavlos' suggestion, fully independent of your program
[22:42] <Laki_> righto ill go do that one sec :)
[22:42] <Laki_> thanks for taking your time to help me out by the way!
[22:44] <Laki_> nacc: pavlos https://i.imgur.com/EhJYAPX.png I'm lost for words.
[22:46] <pavlos> Laki_: repeat in term 4 the echo, it will appear on term 3
[22:47] <Laki_> pavlos: nacc https://i.imgur.com/VckTghq.jpg
[22:47] <greatgatsby>  hey Laki_:  I was having the same problem as you, it wasn't doing anything.  I had to do "tail -f somefile.txt | awk -W interactive '{whatever goes here}'
[22:48] <Laki_> greatgatsby: And todays hero award goes toooo....................
[22:48] <greatgatsby> :-)
[22:48] <Laki_> greatgatsby: that sorted the #@£$er out! thanks dude! my god
[22:48] <greatgatsby> you weren't doing anything wrong
[22:48] <greatgatsby> just different awk versions???
[22:48] <Laki_> greatgatsby: I would tell you but awk seems to have next to 0 bloody --HELP OPTIONS :(
[22:49] <greatgatsby> I only knew because grep needs --line-buffered for it to work, so thought awk might have something similar
[22:49] <pavlos> my awk is 4.1.4
[22:49] <Laki_> welp, today I've found my most hated piece of software on linux, Awk has taken the cake by storm
[22:51] <Laki_> you know you're software is good when it takes users an hour+ just to make it look for a bit of text
[22:51] <Laki_> anyway, thanks nacc pavlos and greatgatsby for your time and help! Super appreciated! :)
[22:51] <greatgatsby> it's actually a symlink to mawk on my machine (through /etc/alternatives)
[22:52] <nacc> it gawk by default on ubuntu i'm pretty sure
[22:52] <nacc> and that option is not necessary on my machine
[22:52] <nacc> Laki_: there is almost certainly something else going on, tbh
[22:52] <Laki_> very strange, some dark magic is lurking somewhere for sure
[22:52] <greatgatsby> just lurking in here on a raspbian machine at the moment :-)
[22:53] <nacc> Laki_: areyou using a non-standard shell by any chance?
[22:53] <Laki_> nacc: nope, just the good ol' default one in ubuntu :)
[22:54] <Laki_> nacc: this machine is literally all default other than having docker installed and that's it, so... yea hah
[22:54] <greatgatsby> maybe a change in 18.04?
[22:54] <Laki_> perhaps, though nacc was testing on 18.04 too?
[22:55] <Laki_> i think the awk devs need to sort their program out is all imma say, no -h or --help options, blahg
[22:55] <Laki_> it does have a man page though thankfully
[22:55] <greatgatsby> Laki_: when you "man awk", is it gawk or mawk?
[22:56] <Laki_> greatgatsby: Mawk
[22:56] <greatgatsby> ok - interesting.  Anyway, glad it's working for you either way.  Good night all.
[22:56] <Laki_> greatgatsby: thanks again! Goodnight! :)
[22:57]  * HackerII can hear everyone scratching their heads
[22:57] <Laki_> I think that's the steam coming off as we all cool back down
[22:57] <pavlos> Laki_: https://imgur.com/a/1YHnX0O
[22:58] <Laki_> pavlos: awk --version isn't even an option for me, so yea, awk's abit inconsistent to say the absolute least. xd
[22:58] <nacc> Laki_: oh you're using *mawk*?
[22:58] <nacc> Laki_: i thought you said earlier gawk, sorry -- use gawk.
[22:59] <Laki_> nacc: apparantly so, there's mawk, gawk, awk, and who knows what else, im sure having a variety of versions with different commands and hiding the prefixes away makes it 100x less confusing as we've found out
[22:59] <Laki_> good decision by the devs there I'm sure lol
[22:59] <nacc> Laki_: there are good reasons for doing it. I'm fairly sure you had to choose to install mawk manually.
[23:00] <nacc> and/or make the default mawk, i mean
[23:00] <Laki_> nacc: nope, never even heard of awk until tonight, ubuntu let me use awk without installing anything
[23:01] <nacc> Laki_: did you extract your example from `man awk`?
[23:01] <Laki_> this machine is only 5 days old and I can assure you i've not installed anything other than docker, xvbf, and libs for teamspeak
[23:01] <nacc> Laki_: it's only in `man gawk`, not in `man mawk`
[23:01] <nacc> which implies mawk is probably not POSIX compliant by default
[23:01] <Laki_> nacc: no entry for man gawk, only awk which says its gawk
[23:01] <nacc> Laki_: you just said awk was mawk?
[23:02] <Laki_> oh yea, mawk sorry
[23:02] <Laki_> see how easy and not confusing this is already lol?
[23:02] <nacc> Laki_: awk is a programming language
[23:02] <nacc> Laki_: there are multiple implementations, you can choose whichever one you want
[23:02] <Laki_> anyway, we've sorted it now, I pray i never have to touch it again
[23:03] <pavlos> Laki_: whereis awk
[23:03] <pavlos> Laki_: /usr/bin
[23:03] <Laki_> pavlos: yea /usr/bin
[23:03] <nacc> pavlos: fwiw, awk is an alternatives-provided binary
[23:04] <nacc> `update-alternatives --display awk` is probably the easiest thing to use
[23:05] <Laki_> yea, s'all good now, I'll know for next time, but thank you guys for going full on at this, your time is appreciated. :) nacc pavlos
[23:06] <Laki_> I'm going to get a nice cold drink and take a break from linux for 5 minutes, 12am here in the uk haha
[23:17] <spotter> anyone know how to run a for loop over ssh (i.e. on the remote side. I'm tearing out my hair trying to figure out how
[23:17] <spotter> i.e. this shell snippet works fine locally, but can't figure out how to run it on a remote system via ssh
[23:18] <spotter> for i in `systemctl list-units | awk '{print $1}' | grep .service`; do echo $i; done
[23:18] <nacc> spotter: ssh bash -c "..."
[23:18] <nacc> well, ssh <host> bash -c "..."
[23:19] <nacc> spotter: also, why are you grepping and echoing? you don't need the loop, do you ?
[23:22] <spotter> I tried
[23:22] <spotter> the echo is simplified
[23:23] <nacc> spotter: pretty sure you just want `ssh <host> bash -c "systemctl --no-legend --type=service list-units | awk '{print $1;}'"
[23:23] <spotter> its more like echo "$i:" ; systemctl cat $i | head -1
[23:23] <spotter> i.e. unit name and file
[23:23] <spotter> as need that for generated units that are symlinked to a template file
[23:24] <spotter> echo -n $i: ; systemctl cat $i | head -1 to be more exact
[23:24] <nacc> ok, you can keep the for loop if you want, but the the above is still better (don't grep out services, just only ask for services)
[23:24] <spotter> agreed
[23:24] <spotter> just can't figure out how to run a for loop remotely
[23:25] <nacc> spotter: bash -c, as I said
[23:25] <nacc> spotter: start a shell, which is what actually is running the for loop
[23:26] <spotter> the issue is the variables
[23:26] <pavlos> spotter: ssh USER@HOST bash -c "  systemctl list-units | awk '/.service/ {print $1}'   "
[23:27] <nacc> spotter: what variables?
[23:27] <nacc> spotter: did you actually try what I said?
[23:27] <spotter> I'm trying it now
[23:28] <spotter> the loop variable
[23:28] <nacc> the type of parentheses may matter too, e.g., i'd prefer bash -c ' ... ' so that the local shell does not interpret the string
[23:28] <nacc> s/parentheses/quotes/
[23:29] <spotter> yes
[23:29] <spotter> so, I've tried it
[23:30] <spotter> and for whatever reason the options to systmctl are being ignored when passed to /bin/sh -c
[23:30] <spotter> i.e.
[23:30] <nacc> not /bin/sh!
[23:30] <spotter> tried both
[23:30] <spotter> sh and bash
[23:30] <nacc> spotter: pastebin the exact command and output.
[23:30] <spotter> let me login to another irc session, this is over vnc, too painful to copy things in
[23:33] <spotter_> example: ssh user@host "systemctl --no-legend --type service --state running | awk '{print \$1;}'" works as expected
[23:33] <spotter_> but add in a /bin/bash -c after the host, and it doesn't
[23:36] <nacc> spotter: plese please use a pastebin.
[23:36] <nacc> spotter: with exact commands and outputs
[23:45] <spotter_> https://pastebin.com/zr8ZQsNY
[23:47] <nacc> spotter: fyi, systemctl --no-legend (not -no-legend)
[23:48] <transhuman> hi can anyone recommend a gui program that is good at zooming video kdenlive and openshot leave something to be desired in this area, thanks
[23:48] <spotter_> yes
[23:48] <spotter_> fixed that
[23:48] <spotter_> i.e. /bin/bash -c 'for i in `systemctl --no-legend --type service --state running | cut -f 1 -d " "`;  do echo -n $i: ; systemctl cat $i |head -1 | cut -f 2 -d " "; done' works fine
[23:49] <spotter_> ssh user@host /bin/bash -c 'for i in `systemctl --no-legend --type service --state running | cut -f 1 -d " "`;  do echo -n $i: ; systemctl cat $i |head -1 | cut -f 2 -d " "; done' fails with a syntax error
[23:49] <transhuman> I basically want to take about 50 frames and repeat them like 50 times only showing half zoomed in
[23:50] <toor_> hi
[23:51] <toor_> hi
[23:54] <spotter_> nacc, https://pastebin.com/pbvTWV45 updated pastebin with 2 commands I've run
[23:58] <spotter_> nacc, got this to work ssh user@host 'UNITS=`systemctl --no-legend --type service --state running | cut -f 1 -d " "`; for i in $UNITS; do echo -n $i:; systemctl cat $i |head -1 |cut -f 2 -d " "; done'
[23:59] <spotter_> but add a /bin/sh or /bin/bash -c to it and it fails as systemctl doesn't obey the --no-legend
[23:59] <spotter_> or any of the other filters