[00:01] <nacc> spotter_: i need to go, sorry -- i'm not sure, it should work, but perhaps something is being misinterpreted
[00:01] <spotter_> I'm good for now
[00:34] <ALowther_> Any OpenVPN GUI recommendations?
[00:36] <Two_Dogs> network-manager-openvpn <-- plugin to network-manager ALowther_
[00:36] <Two_Dogs> it is a package, install for effect
[00:38] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs. I will check it out. Thank you. I just have openvpn installed right now. I am unsure how to proceed.
[00:39] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: your provider should include a readme for install/config
[00:41] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs: There is no provider. It's a self contained VPN within my family. FIguring it out as we go.
[00:41] <hadmojo> register
[00:42] <Two_Dogs> ALowther_: got you, slog on sir
[00:42] <Kamilion> I have a bunch of supermicro servers I need to update the BIOS and IPMI on. I've got a PXE bootserver and memdisk loading a dos image; but it takes forever to update the IPMI through the keyboard interface. The linux binary uses USB to perform the update faster. Is there a sane way I can stick the updater into an initramfs or something, without needing a whole installation?
[00:44] <Kamilion> ALowther_: I've used https://github.com/pritunl in the past
[00:44] <Kamilion> has a nice frontend for certificate administration on top of openvpn
[00:45] <Kamilion> at this point, I use wireguard
[00:45] <Kamilion> it's available from the wireguard PPA
[00:45] <osp2> linux noob here: when I set up my computer 1+ year ago, I chose to encrypt my filesystem as one of the options. Now I'm running out of disk space and a dialog keeps popping up every once in a while saying: "you can free up disk space by removing unused programs or files or by moving files to an external disk" and gives me an option to "Examine" which opens a visual of files/directories by size but since the fs is encrypted, file names show up as encrypted file
[00:45] <osp2> names so I have no clue what's what
[00:46] <osp2> the program's menu bar says it's the "Disk Usage Analyzer"
[00:46] <Kamilion> baobab; I'm familiar with that program.
[00:46] <osp2> as a side note, I set it up so that my 256 gb ssd has ubuntu on it and I Have a 1TB hdd, but the ssd keeps running out of space :(
[00:47] <osp2> any help appreciated =)
[00:47] <Bashing-om> osp2: Any joy with terminal command ' sudo apt autoremove ' that removes no longer needed files and can free up a lot of space .
[00:47] <arooni> anyway to have a keyboard combination to jump to different workspaces?
[00:48] <Kamilion> osp2: you can run baobab manually from the menu by finding Disk Usage Analyser; and then it should allow you to select a mount point to scan.
[00:48] <osp2> Bashing-om, I did that a week or two ago ago and it cleared a lot up but not enough I guess
[00:48] <osp2> what?
[00:48] <osp2> boabab?
[00:48] <Kamilion> that is Disk Usage Analyser's "real" name.
[00:48] <Kamilion> baobab.
[00:49] <Kamilion> it's a type of tall tree
[00:49] <osp2> when you say "from the menu" what do you mean?
[00:49] <Kamilion> whatver menu thing you have
[00:49] <Kamilion> I use lubuntu
[00:50] <Kamilion> you may be using unity or something else
[00:50] <Kamilion> your start menu
[00:50] <Kamilion> programs menu
[00:50] <Kamilion> whatever
[00:50] <osp2> hm
[00:51] <ALowther_> Two_Dogs: Haha thank you :)
[00:51] <osp2> so the problem is even if I do that, it has permission issues still with reading the encrypted stuff
[00:51] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/AwPqF/4b9bdbc778.jpg
[00:51] <Bashing-om> osp2: 'ncdu' to show where the disk space is consumed - remove files as required . will require installing IF you have the disk space :)
[00:51] <osp2> do you know what hte command is to run it from the terminal? I'll run as sudo
[00:51] <ALowther_> Kamilion: I will look into it. Thank you!
[00:51] <Kamilion> then run it from the terminal with gksudo or something
[00:52] <Kamilion> but as far as I know, encfs is broked with 18.04; so you should be real careful upgrading
[00:52] <andersonid> hi everyone... I cant figure out why my VPN connection with sstp-client doesnt work... I'm trying to analyze syslog, but the entries doesnt provide me more details.
[00:52] <osp2> Kamilion, I'm not following on how to run boabab from terminal
[00:52] <osp2> that's not a command my terminal recognizes
[00:52] <Kamilion> osp2: 'gksudo baobab'
[00:52] <andersonid> How can I get more info about ppp connection erros?
[00:52] <osp2> same deal with gksudo
[00:52] <Kamilion> uhh
[00:53] <Kamilion> pkexec baobab
[00:53] <Kamilion> i dunno
[00:53] <Kamilion> it's hard to figure out what works on the different desktop environments
[00:53] <osp2> oh turns out I was spelling baobab as boabab
[00:53] <osp2> so I can just sudo baobab
[00:53] <Kamilion> sudo and graphical programs don't make nice together
[00:54] <Kamilion> that's why gksudo existed in the past
[00:54] <Kamilion> I dunno what they're doing now, but I'd say you'd probably want to type 'sudo -s' first to get a root prompt, then just 'baobab' from the root prompt, and ctrl-d to exit from the root prompt afterwards.
[00:55] <Kamilion> but I've had that fail on someone else's Mint 17.3
[00:55] <Two_Dogs> gksu/gksudo is not an option on 18.04, surprise!!
[00:55] <Kamilion> you're probably wrong about that, Two_Dogs
[00:55] <Kamilion> as it works fine for me.
[00:56] <Kamilion> you probably just don't have the package installed.
[00:56] <Two_Dogs> Kamilion: yeah, search for it, try to install it\
[00:56] <Two_Dogs> yeah
[00:56] <Two_Dogs> lets all guess alot
[00:56] <Kamilion> I don't need to guess usually
[00:56] <osp2> Kamilion, thanks a bunch I've got enough to keep exploring myself now =) +1
[00:56] <Kamilion> I've been dealing with packaging for 10 years
[00:57] <Two_Dogs> is that pre or post cp/m?
[00:57] <Kamilion> osp2: kk -- i'd suggest backing your homedir up, opening synaptic or something and exporting your installed package list, and fresh installing 18.04
[00:57] <Kamilion> very post cp/m
[00:57] <Kamilion> I've only got one copy left on 8" floppy.
[00:57] <Kamilion> it's the only 8" floppy I even have.
[00:58] <osp2> I'm running 16.04, I think there's an option to upgrade in July when they have the minor dot version someone mentioned to me recently
[00:58] <osp2> I'll wait for that
[00:58] <Kamilion> osp2: I just warned you about that
[00:58] <Kamilion> osp2: encfs is known to be borked in 18.04
[00:58] <Kamilion> be VERY VERY careful about upgrading
[00:58] <osp2> oic
[00:58] <Kamilion> with your disk encryption
[00:58] <Kamilion> you should probably fresh install 18.04 with the new style disk encryption and restore from backup instead
[00:59] <Kamilion> people not using disk encryption can upgrade without problems in junejulywhatever
[00:59] <osp2> why are you running lubuntu?
[00:59] <Kamilion> because i want to shoot whoever thought a sidebar would be a good idea
[00:59] <Two_Dogs> https://itsfoss.com/gksu-replacement-ubuntu/ Kamilion , surprise :)
[01:00] <Kamilion> Two_Dogs: http://puu.sh/AwPHN/ca1102ffa3.png
[01:00] <Kamilion> surprise
[01:01] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/AwPJR/28fbc8a6ba.png
[01:02] <Kamilion> but thanks for the article
[01:02] <Kamilion> if I continue to use GTK programs, admin:///some/path/to/file will work
[01:03] <Kamilion> but lubuntu's moving from lxde to lxqt
[01:03] <Kamilion> so it doesn't really matter a whole lot anyway, as gksu/gksudo will be gone with the QT switchover anyway
[01:03] <bparker> how is one supposed to setup wifi on a fresh install of ubuntu server 18.04? I do not have ethernet access and it seems wpa_supplicant and other packages do not get installed by default.
[01:03] <Kamilion> bparker: ... huh. Never seen a server with wifi before. Plug it into ethernet?
[01:04] <bparker> ...
[01:04] <Kamilion> copy the packages to a USB stick?
[01:04] <Kamilion> install them with dpkg -i
[01:04] <bparker> I tried that before and it trashed the system
[01:04] <bparker> also, dependency hell
[01:04] <oerheks> !offline
[01:04] <Two_Dogs> Kamilion: you did not include 'apt-cache policy '
[01:04] <Kamilion> reroll your ISO with customizer then
[01:04] <bparker> oh lord
[01:04] <Kamilion> oh, nevermind
[01:04] <Kamilion> that doesn't work with server
[01:05] <bparker> so the answer is you don't
[01:05] <Kamilion> they don't use casper
[01:05] <Kamilion> since it's not live media
[01:05] <Kamilion> invokes debian-installer, if I remember right
[01:05] <bparker> I had the same problem with 16.04 and hoped it was fixed by now
[01:05] <Kamilion> but seriously, what kind of server do you have that has wifi?
[01:06] <Kamilion> I've not seen that on any server motherboards outside of little baby NASs and stuff
[01:06] <nacc> bparker: server very intentionally does not have wifi
[01:06] <oerheks> wifi only is a luxory problem, sure you can find a way to hook up on cable, maybe ics
[01:06] <Kamilion> i deal with a lot of supermicro X8/X9/X10/X11/H8 boards
[01:06] <Kamilion> i havn't seen a single supermicro, dell, or intel rackmount server that has wifi built in
[01:06] <nacc> bparker: i would suggest you install desktop with minimal and install the packages you need/remove the ones you want
[01:06] <Kamilion> do you have an expansion card in the chassis or something?
[01:07] <Two_Dogs> bparker: how about 'iwconfig' for the wifi setup?
[01:07] <bparker> this is a very small device (think raspberry pi-like) in a remote location
[01:07] <Kamilion> you'll also need the full kernel
[01:07] <bparker> Two_Dogs: need wpa supplicant
[01:07] <Kamilion> not just -server
[01:07] <Two_Dogs> bparker: si
[01:07] <Kamilion> to get the -extras and linux-firmware packages
[01:07] <Kamilion> both of which are like a hundred megs each
[01:08] <bparker> the wifi adapter is already detected
[01:08] <bparker> but I just need the supplicant
[01:08] <Kamilion> ah, well, that's conveniant.
[01:09] <Two_Dogs> bparker: do the aptitude dowload of package thing on something working, move to server and dpkg -i 'it', painful but should work
[01:09] <Kamilion> huh
[01:09] <Kamilion> there's no wpasupplicant inbionic?
[01:10] <Kamilion> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/amd64/wpasupplicant/2:2.6-15ubuntu2
[01:10] <Kamilion> no, that's cosmic's...
[01:10] <Kamilion> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/wpasupplicant/2:2.6-15ubuntu2
[01:10] <Kamilion> there we go.
[01:11] <Kamilion> bparker: hey, did you look inside the server ISO's package pool?
[01:14] <Kamilion> bparker: /pool/main/w/wireless-tools and /pool/main/w/wpa/
[01:15] <Kamilion> bparker: right on the server ISO already
[01:15] <bparker> I'm not able to access the install media from the actual installation...
[01:16] <bparker> blkdid and lsblk show nothing but the internal flash
[01:16] <bparker> but lsusb sees it
[01:16] <Kamilion> well, either way -- there's all the dependancies you need
[01:16] <Kamilion> copy the whole damn /pool/ off onto a shared network volume or something
[01:16] <bparker> dmesg shows a sda, but trying to mount it says no medium found
[01:16] <Kamilion> oh, right, no ethernet.
[01:16] <Kamilion> uhhh... Set up a guest AP with no encryption? LMFAO
[01:17] <Kamilion> jeez, that's sort of a pain in the butt problem to solve, I guess.
[01:17] <Kamilion> bparker: honestly, that's something I would solve with a local copy of ipxe in the thin client, and have it obtain the things it needs via HTTP
[01:17] <Kamilion> or preferably, HTTPS
[01:17] <Kamilion> the most recent versions support a bunch of wifi adapters
[01:18] <bparker> unfortunately that's not an option for me for several reasons
[01:19] <Kamilion> then it only needs a local DHCP server to answer with an IP address (but doesn't require any additional DHCP options, if iPXE is local and has a local script to run listing the HTTPS endpoints)
[01:20] <Kamilion> otherwise, I'd suggest customizing your installation medium before deploy, and there's various methods to do that, from using the netinstaller and seed files, to ansible or chef/puppet
[01:20] <bparker> the fact that I can't read a usb stick means I can't ever install packages downloaded from elsewhere either
[01:21] <Kamilion> is that intentional, or just a quirk of what you have now?
[01:21] <bparker> no idea
[01:22] <oerheks> make sure it is fat32
[01:22] <Kamilion> nah, that shouldn't matter, kernel can mount fat12b through fat48
[01:22] <Kamilion> same vfat.ko
[01:22] <OverRaiser> fat 48?
[01:23] <Kamilion> OverRaiser: exceeding the 2TB volume limit of fat32 formatters
[01:23] <Kamilion> file size limit is still the same
[01:23] <bparker> https://i.imgur.com/fXvRkHz.jpg
[01:24] <bparker> it's fat32
[01:24] <Kamilion> uhh, no medium found is a different error
[01:24] <Kamilion> kernel says that device is 0 bytes
[01:24] <bparker> and I just installed the system with it
[01:25] <transhuman> hi has the gnome shell bug been fixed?
[01:25] <Kamilion> bparker: what happens if you find the device in sysfs, disable it's port and re-enable it?
[01:25] <transhuman> err the gnome-shell memory leak
[01:26] <bparker> replugging it seems to work...
[01:26] <Kamilion> bparker: there's a way to give it the same kick without physically unplugging it
[01:26] <bparker> aha, wpasupplicant is in the pool
[01:27] <Kamilion> yep
[01:27] <Kamilion> as well as wireless-tools
[01:27] <bparker> funny that the installer said no network device was found as well
[01:27] <Kamilion> i remembered hearing something about that in one of the dev channels
[01:27] <Kamilion> and I asked if I could empty /pool/ on my ISO
[01:27] <Kamilion> and was told 'sure, won't hurt anything'
[01:28] <Kamilion> but I remembered seeing wpasupplicant's name flashing by during the rm -v
[01:28] <LogicalDash> I've found a bug in an input device driver. I'd opened a ticket in the joystick package some months ago but nothing's happened with it and anyway I think it might be in evdev. Can you file gamepad related bugs against evdev?
[01:28] <Kamilion> LogicalDash: yes, you can file bugs against any package -- evdev or libinput might be the right one.
[01:29] <Kamilion> I've been yelling at the libinput devs for years on game controller support; so your milage may vary
[01:29] <Kamilion> as far as I know, they may still only support the wacom joysticks
[01:30] <Kamilion> if you picked the wrong one, someone will yell at you and tell you the right one to file it under
[01:30] <Kamilion> be fearless if you want your bugs fixed :)
[01:30] <Kamilion> (but polite!)
[01:31] <Kamilion> if there is any support, it'd be pretty recent, I think keith packard was only on the Valve contract since late last year
[01:32] <Kamilion> see: https://lwn.net/Articles/748208/
[01:32] <Kamilion> but having gotten a wee bit sick from a VR headset has motiviated him to get some stuff fixed up in the graphics subsystem, thankfully.
[01:32] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQIDm-hFhYg   You'll find the talk itself on youtube
[01:33] <Kamilion> LogicalDash: might help you in your quest to find whom to talk to next to get your bug resolved or examined.
[01:41] <OverRaiser> Kamilion: you know how to use anbox?
[01:41] <Kamilion> not familiar with that name
[01:42] <Kamilion> OverRaiser: found it. Need 18.04 or ubuntu-snappy-core 16.04, as https://github.com/anbox/anbox/blob/master/docs/install.md says
[01:43] <Kamilion> I don't use or like snaps; so I'm afraid I won't be a lot of help other than pointing you at the documentation
[01:44] <oerheks> OverRaiser, join #anbox here on #freenode .. yeah a little research gives https://github.com/anbox/anbox
[01:44] <OverRaiser> ty
[01:45] <OverRaiser> I'm already in the group but nobody answers xD
[01:46] <Kamilion> probably busy writing documentation
[01:46] <Kamilion> that install document is only 7 days old
[01:46] <oerheks> https://www.maketecheasier.com/run-android-apps-on-ubuntu/ maybe more helpfull
[01:47] <Kamilion> that appears to be out of date
[01:47] <Kamilion> and missing the dkms kernel package
[01:47] <Kamilion> ah, no, there it is
[01:47] <oerheks> up to bionic
[01:47] <Kamilion> but yeah -- that helps describing 'how to run anbox' once installed
[01:47] <OverRaiser> OHH thanks for the help people!
[01:48] <Kamilion> but it's definitely out of date -- "9th Aug 2017", and the installation instructions on github are 7 days old.
[01:48] <Kamilion> so I'd suggest following the github docs as your primary source and referring back to the older article
[01:48] <oerheks> 2018-05-23 ..
[01:49] <Kamilion> oerheks: no, the maketecheasier article was published 9th Aug 2017
[01:49] <Kamilion> that's what I'm saying is out of date
[01:49] <oerheks> yes, oke, but the ppa is up2date, mentioned there https://launchpad.net/~morphis/+archive/ubuntu/anbox-support
[01:50] <Kamilion> `After you installed the anbox-modules-dkms package you have to manually load the kernel modules. The next time your system starts they will be automatically loaded.  $ sudo modprobe ashmem_linux; sudo modprobe binder_linux;`
[01:50] <OverRaiser> Well the subject is interesting because, with 1 year the support should be much more stable, minimum to run whatsapp
[01:50] <Kamilion> that would be so, if android didn't rely on a whole bunch of hackery to the linux kernel to make things work
[01:51] <Kamilion> which is why you need the anbox kernel modules
[01:51] <ThiagoCMC> Anyone having problems with loading modules on Ubuntu 18.04? Like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042452/file-etc-modprobe-d-dummy-conf-ignored-on-ubuntu-18-04 ?
[01:51] <Kamilion> getting those kernel patches into a form acceptable for DKMS to build against any kernel was probably quite a big task
[02:49] <N3X15> go ghoti
[02:49] <raf> hi i need help
[02:49] <raf> i installed wine and when i try just open i have that
[02:49] <raf> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\open.exe"
[03:07] <Callek> so I'm on bionic, I have a custom .desktop file for an app or two, but I routinely get those app icons forked in my dock when it auto-updates (e.g. one of said apps is Firefox Developer Edition, and the app will launch, start installing the update, then close the initial launch and launch anew, but that leaves me with a second icon that isn't my "added to
[03:07] <Callek> favorites")
[03:08] <Callek> anyone have any insight on the problem, and/or anything I can do to fix
[03:10] <Two_Dogs> Callek: is firefox running as background app from its own setup?
[03:11] <Callek> Two_Dogs: I think thats a likely scenario, if so is there anything I can do?
[03:11] <Callek> (and/or how can I verify it, the next time it happens)
[03:11]  * Callek should note that exiting and relaunching fixes it
[03:12] <Two_Dogs> Callek: you would see two instances of firefox i would think, 'pstree -nsupa'
[03:12] <Callek> note I've already launched fresh, but this is what I have now
[03:13] <Callek> https://irccloud.mozilla.com/pastebin/ZySGOuwZ/
[03:13] <Callek> there is a lot of line items already ;-)
[03:14] <Two_Dogs> Callek: the extra lines can be ignored, probably because the pstree command is too encompassing
[03:15] <Two_Dogs> Callek: i am not a firefox user, dont they have a support channel
[03:15] <Callek> yea, (disclaimer I'm a Mozilla employee) but relatively new to Linux and brand new Bionic laptop
[03:15] <Callek> so was more a question on how to make sure a "favorite" launcher icon doesn't duplicate, in general
[03:16] <Callek> if the same underlying binary is launched by the one I launch from launcher
[03:16] <Two_Dogs> Callek: so via firefox command line can you force the thing to not ?? create launcher?
[03:16] <Callek> well in this case its a matter of it self-updating after it downloads said update
[03:17] <Callek> so on launch it installs the update and re-launches
[03:17] <Two_Dogs> Callek: then add to desktop file the command line you created
[03:17] <Callek> What I have now https://irccloud.mozilla.com/file/w7dgVP09/image.png
[03:17] <Callek> when the issue hits I click the DevEdition icon on my launcher, then Firefox gives me a dialog that it is updating, (few seconds) then the dialog closes and I get a brand new window spawned with a duplicate icon on my launcher, below the terminal in this case
[03:18] <Two_Dogs> Callek: i am no expert on ff whatsoever
[03:19] <Callek> the .desktop file I have, for what its worth is
[03:19] <Two_Dogs> and guessed alot thus far, i just figure like chrome it must ask you to run in background and if so i would try disable, lots of guessing though
[03:19] <Callek> https://irccloud.mozilla.com/pastebin/TgNtNIv4/
[03:19] <Callek> yea, my underlying confusion is the duplicate dock stuff, and not knowing how that works well I can't easily piece A and B together on what could cause (for sure) or how to remediate
[03:20] <Two_Dogs> exec=/opt/Firefox-Devedition/firefox -private-window <-- this line Callek , can it be tweaked to force one instance?
[03:20] <Callek> launching it again forces one instance (but it is multi-process in the first place)
[03:21] <Two_Dogs> Callek: unless there is a current bug 'shell panel creates dup icons for no reason...' i would blame ff
[03:21] <Callek> thanks though, I have to run but I'm *hopeful* that someone will see my question and context above and help somewhat more concretely.
[03:22] <Callek> I vaguely suspected it could be due to something I did in my own settings/setup or the .desktop file I created. but it could certainly be a Firefox bug which I'd happily report if I could understand the root of the problem better
[03:23] <Two_Dogs> i guess alot when it comes to firefox
[03:25] <Two_Dogs> Callek: if ff is running and you click the icon on side panel, you get new ff with pvt window or new pvt on existing ff instance?
[03:30] <gartral> I need a timer...
[03:30] <Two_Dogs> gartral: look in the app store
[03:31] <gartral> I can't find one in the repos, I just need a simple "set for X minutes, then beep" egg timer
[03:31] <gartral> Two_Dogs: none of them are what I need
[03:34] <Two_Dogs> gartral: that sucks
[03:35] <gartral> Two_Dogs: all I need is as a barebones as can be, "set for X, X minutes pass *BEEEEP*" timer, this doesn't seem too exist
[03:35] <Two_Dogs> yea, saw your last
[03:35] <gartral> there are stop watches and alarm clocks, but those aren't timers
[03:38] <gartral> my two major reqirements are: it CAN NOT be a web-based solution (usually I'd put timer X into google that works), and has to be literally simple enough that a moron can use it (this is going into a kitchen as a kiosk, the timer will be a movable window and recipie book), bonus points for easily setting multiple timers
[03:38] <ujerry_> how to cancel a apt install?  I use apt install to install a package, but unfinished for some depends error happend . now I don't want to install package, how to cancel this install? if do noting , next time install any other package, always this depends errors.
[03:39] <gartral> ujerry_: sudo apt install -f
[03:40] <ujerry_> no , i don't want to install this package .
[03:40] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_: the package name?
[03:41] <ujerry_> for it will upgrade some other package, but i don't want to upgrade.
[03:41] <ujerry_> glmark2-es2
[03:41] <gartral> ujerry_: sudo apt purge glmark-es2
[03:41] <ujerry_> no use
[03:42] <gartral> ujerry_: why?
[03:43] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~nglmark ## solution provided?
[03:43] <ujerry_> if I install a package , still show current depends error
[03:44] <ujerry_> f I install a new package , still show current depends error
[03:44] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~nglmark ## solution provided?
[03:44] <gartral> ujerry_: sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[03:45] <guiverc_t> gartral, i suspect a 'timer' app is too simple (something you write in a codlang101 class), thus the function is included in other apps but not by itself (eg. app to remind you to take a break).  i'm using xfce so have xfce4-timer-plugin
[03:45] <ujerry_> -bash: aptitude: command not found
[03:46] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo apt install aptitude ; aptitude purge -sy ~nglmark ## solution provided?
[03:46] <gartral> guiverc_t: I'm using xfce4 for this project, let me take a look at that, sounds perfect
[03:46] <ujerry_> I cannot install anything now
[03:46] <Two_Dogs> that sucks
[03:46] <ujerry_> always show the depends error
[03:47] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_: share errors shown via pastebin
[03:47] <gartral> guiverc_t: this requires the person to right-click the applet...
[03:48] <ujerry_> only i fix the depends error , i can install other packages
[03:48] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_: share errors shown via pastebin
[03:49] <ujerry_> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/79KfR3q8DS/
[03:50] <Two_Dogs> You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. ujerry_ ?
[03:50] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_: done the obvious?
[03:51] <ujerry_> but I don't want fix this install ,  for I build a old verison libdrm . fix this install will overwrite my libdrm .
[03:52] <guiverc_t> gartral, i don't use xfce4-timer-plugin, found it via aptitude & remember trying it years ago..
[03:52] <Two_Dogs> ujerry_: good luck
[03:53] <ujerry_> thanks a lot , Two_Dogs
[03:54] <ThiagoCMC> Guys, what happened with ubuntu 18.04 package "ubuntu-virt" ?
[03:54] <ThiagoCMC> It was handy...   =/
[03:55] <ThiagoCMC> Removed by accident?
[03:55] <ThiagoCMC> Or by design?
[03:55] <ThiagoCMC> :-(
[03:57] <rustyraptor> hi. Why is it when I Format a USB as GPT then dd the ubuntu mini ISO to it it becomes MBR? My laptop can't boot from MBR.
[03:57] <rustyraptor> Is there a way to get this to not happen? Is the MBR paritioning built into the ISO somehow? What do?
[03:58] <oerheks> because of bugs, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-virt/+bug/1540323
[03:58] <Two_Dogs> rustyraptor: you need to dd to the device and not partition on usb
[03:58] <ThiagoCMC> rustyraptor, try package unetbootin
[03:58] <ThiagoCMC> ;-)
[03:58] <oerheks> oh no, no UNETBOOTIN!
[03:59] <ThiagoCMC> lol
[03:59] <ThiagoCMC> so old
[03:59] <rustyraptor> What do you mean? I dd to /dev/sdc
[03:59] <Two_Dogs> rustyraptor: yes
[03:59] <rustyraptor> That's what I do.
[03:59] <oerheks> it has known issues, use dd or the ubuntu usb tool, or etcher.io
[03:59] <Two_Dogs> if sdc is 'usb'
[03:59] <rustyraptor> Yep it is.
[04:00] <Two_Dogs> rustyraptor: its an iso, so you get snapshot 'dd'ed' on the usb, what ever format
[04:00] <rustyraptor> I wonder why the ISO is in MBR format instead of GPT :(
[04:00] <rustyraptor> Or  is it?
[04:01] <Two_Dogs> i would hope linux iso was mbr
[04:01] <rustyraptor> Also when I check the iso'd USB with gparted it says "recursive partition table" is that normal.
[04:01] <ThiagoCMC> I personally only use GPT on super big storages...
[04:01] <rustyraptor> The regular Ubuntu ISO is GPT I presume.
[04:02] <rustyraptor> as it was working on this laptop when I tried it but I have a smaller USB now so I have to use the mini ISO
[04:02] <rustyraptor> Anyone know an 18.04 distro that is smaller than 1 GB?
[04:07] <ThiagoCMC> On Ubuntu 18.04, the /etc/modprobe.d subdir is weird... Anyone knows something about this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042452/file-etc-modprobe-d-dummy-conf-ignored-on-ubuntu-18-04 ?
[04:07] <ThiagoCMC> Something changed on 18.04 ?
[04:08] <ThiagoCMC> Looks like that it is ignoring the "options"...
[04:10] <platz> anyone know when emacs 26 will have a package for ubuntu available
[04:15] <oerheks> there is some private ppa, https://launchpad.net/~kelleyk/+archive/ubuntu/emacs
[04:21] <annihilator> i dont like kubuntu because i cant figure out plasma 5
[04:22] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: you and alot of other gnome/gtk types
[04:22] <annihilator> i used to love kde
[04:22] <annihilator> i used it up till they introed plasma 5
[04:23] <annihilator> but i cant figure out how to remove the folder orginization thing
[04:23] <Two_Dogs> organization?
[04:23] <annihilator> when i install kubuntu it comes up with these windows on the desktop you can put folders in
[04:24] <annihilator> i cant figure out how to have it setup as a regular desktop
[04:25] <arch-nemesis> Yeah that's what KDE does, the desktop folder thing. There's an option to do that differently.
[04:26] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: you mean folder view on desktop?
[04:26] <annihilator> yea the default thing
[04:27] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: disable it
[04:27] <annihilator> i cant figure out how
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> kde is right-click config tweak like desktop
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> you want to disable folders or choose something else
[04:29] <Two_Dogs> i dont get how folders can be confusing
[04:29] <annihilator> its not confusing i just dont like it cause i would like to be able to put a shortcut right on the desktop
[04:30] <annihilator> not have the foldier view blocking that ability
[04:30] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: that is doable
[04:30] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: simpler even, point the folder to ~/Desktop folder
[04:31] <arch-nemesis> Annihilator, do you actually want KDE? I feel like cinnamon is a more windows-like experience if that's what you're looking for
[04:31] <Two_Dogs> plasma is an adult desktop
[04:32] <annihilator> i like the effects of kde i just dont like the foldier view lol
[04:32] <annihilator> im prolly just stick with lxde lol
[04:32] <Two_Dogs> annihilator: you mean lxqt?
[04:33] <Two_Dogs> !info lxde
[04:33] <Two_Dogs> !info lxqt
[04:36] <annihilator> which ever one is with lubuntu lol
[04:37] <Two_Dogs> as far as i know lxde is deprecated
[04:39] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: LXQT will be the default in 18.10 .
[04:39] <spikebike> Anyone notice that ubuntu-16.04's mdadm seems really picky during --assemble?  Had a 4 drive RAID5, one disk died, then the op pulled the wrong drive.  So the event counter if off by just a bit.
[04:39] <spikebike> normally --assemble --force would assemble anyways
[04:40] <Two_Dogs> Bashing-om: ok
[04:40] <spikebike> all mdadm -E related metadata looks great/healthy
[04:44] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: :) https://news.softpedia.com/news/lxqt-0-13-0-desktop-environment-released-will-be-available-in-lubuntu-18-10-521257.shtml .
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> !raid | spikebike start here
[04:46] <spikebike> lotuspsychje: thanks, read those, I've done this 10s if not 100s of times.  Something seems different about 16.04.  The Event counters are almost identical, and --force is supposed to let you ignore that.
[04:47] <spikebike> using -v -v -v shows not much, syslog/dmesg not either.
[04:47] <spikebike> Seems as if --force is being ignored
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> spikebike: did you try that mdam tool, wich name i forgot again :p
[04:48] <spikebike> mdadm ;-)
[04:48] <spikebike> Hrm, I'll try compiling the current mdadm from source
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> spikebike: we dont reccomend compiling packages
[04:49] <Two_Dogs> does compiling break some secret sause?
[04:50] <Two_Dogs> sauce..
[04:50] <oerheks> yes, the changelog :-P
[04:50] <spikebike> http://termbin.com/g733u
[04:51] <spikebike> /dev/sdd3 is at 16000 just a few off from the other 2
[04:51] <spikebike> and a few minutes wallclock from the last update
[04:51] <Two_Dogs> oerheks: thats a bookkeeping entry via checkinstall
[04:52] <Two_Dogs> checkinstall defaults version to ?? xx.xx.99?
[04:53] <Two_Dogs> i dont compile much at all
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Two_Dogs
[04:54] <spikebike> Two_Dogs: neither do I, but this is really weird, I've used mdadm like this quite a few times over the years
[04:55] <Two_Dogs> spikebike: i was not paying attention, is mdadm not acting now was before?
[04:55] <Two_Dogs> s/was/as was
[04:57] <Two_Dogs> spikebike: what does forum/bug list/mail-list say?
[04:58] <spikebike> Ha, it was a 16.04 bug
[04:58] <Two_Dogs> :), solved?
[04:58] <spikebike> yeah
[04:59] <Kremator> spikebike, which bug?
[04:59] <spikebike> 16.04 just keeps silently failing, but I downloaded mdadm-4.0 and it found a faulty flag set, cleared it, assembled, and fscked
[05:00] <malkauns_> anyone running ubuntu on the huawei matebook x pro? how's it going?
[05:01] <Two_Dogs> malkauns_ running ubuntu on the huawei matebook x pro issues https://git.io/vhc2O
[05:12] <Two_Dogs> is the latest chromium broke?
[05:14] <malkauns_> hmm
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Two_Dogs: you mean the snap?
[05:18] <oerheks> bugreport?
[05:18] <Two_Dogs> lotuspsychje: no sure which is effected, the repo version does not meet the version test for the broke one, i just saw chatter about chromium 67.xx broke audio
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Two_Dogs: we also reccomend using package versions for your specific ubuntu version, aka not latest
[05:19] <Toxmi> In vim I trying to put a time stamp in the bufer just like `:r! date` but when I try to format the date command e.g. `date '+%j'` it doesn't work
[05:20] <Two_Dogs> lotuspsychje: yeah, i'll get on that
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Toxmi: perhaps the #vim guys might know that one
[05:20] <oerheks> chromium 67 is in proposed, so he is just testing
[05:20] <Toxmi> lotuspsychje: I asked, but they're dead
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> 1000 users dead? idle a bit Toxmi :p
[05:21] <Toxmi> lotuspsychje: vim armagedon! I asked 30min ago and no response. I'm the only survivor
[05:21] <Toxmi> they've killed by xi guys
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Toxmi: does this help? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56052/best-way-to-insert-timestamp-in-vim
[05:24] <oerheks>  date +"%j" .. not sure %j is valid .. https://math2001.github.io/post/how-to-insert-the-date-in-vim/
[05:25] <Toxmi> lotuspsychje: Yeah, thanks dude. I already escaped it by \%. I'm stupid :-P
[05:30] <Two_Dogs> the default editor on ubuntu is nano, yes? i did one of them sudoedit things and nano came up
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !info nano | Two_Dogs
[05:33] <Tegu> Two_Dogs: probably yes, then. check it with "printenv EDITOR" and change it if you want
[05:33] <Two_Dogs> lotuspsychje: meaning default sudoeditor?
[05:33] <Two_Dogs> Tegu: thks
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Two_Dogs: component main, is standard
[05:34] <Tegu> and for sudoedit specifically, check "man sudoedit" and its flag --edit
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[05:35] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[05:36] <EriC^^> morning
[05:39] <Two_Dogs> Tegu: export SUDO_EDITOR=kate ## fixed it
[05:40] <Skaface82> im trying to run a snap, but apparmor is denying access to /dev/video0.. where do I look at how to grant access to that device?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: snaps are protected by default
[05:41] <EriC^^> Skaface82: is your user in the video group? just a wild guess
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: if you find a new bug on your snap, you can also contact the maintainer of the snap
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: and wich snap are we talking about please?
[05:42] <Skaface82> so is the snap supposed to set up the permissions on installation? its mjpg-streamer
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: Please make sure to run snap connect mjpg-streamer:camera to allow the app (or the service) to access /dev/video*.
[05:47] <Skaface82> ah thankyou that is what I missed
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Skaface82
[05:47] <Skaface82> well im half way there, i have more denies, but I think i can work this out myself now
[06:09] <raf> HI i have problem ; i search a librairy for juste music note , bazsic : do re mi fa ...
[06:09] <raf> and no found a good website and not mystificated
[06:14] <OlofL> How do I ssh proxy to a 2nd host via a jump host?
[06:15] <OlofL> I usually use ssh -D 9050 jmphost
[06:18] <SporkWitch> OlofL: https://superuser.com/questions/96489/an-ssh-tunnel-via-multiple-hops
[06:21] <raf> Nobody know for mine question?
[06:25] <SporkWitch> raf: try reforming the question, and ask it in the question for the tool you're using.  Off the top of my head, I don't know of any tools for searching audio files for a given sequence of notes...
[06:25] <SporkWitch> *ask it in the CHANNEL for the tool you're using
[06:29] <raf> Non just the code
[06:29] <raf> i juste need the hmtl
[06:29] <EriC^^> i think he just wants the basic notes, like do.mp3 re.mp3
[06:29] <EriC^^> ?
[06:29] <raf> I want do a music maker , but i need the sourc or the midi of the sou_nd
[06:29] <SporkWitch> i smell translation barriers, heh
[06:30] <Toxmi> raf: does it help? https://github.com/ryobot/midi2note
[06:30] <raf> yes ^'
[06:30] <raf> I see
[06:31] <guiverc> question: I just woke this [suspended] desktop; after password I got a "Sink callback failure: Timeout" in error like box - any clues as to what it means ??   ("lots of gdm-x-session[]..ERROR:service_manager_context.cc... Attempting to run unsupported native service" in journalctl)   (looking online sees pulseaudio & skhype - but I don't use skhype) - any clues appreciated :)
[06:32] <peterpan___> hello
[06:33] <guiverc> Hi peterpan___ , if you have a Ubuntu support question, please ask it (ideally a single line & be patient awaiting response - if someone can help you, they will when able)
[06:33] <raf> and you dont have note per note
[06:36] <Toxmi> raf: I could not understand you point, and also I'm not familar with notes and music theory. But there it seems there are (at least) many online tools you can use.
[06:36] <Toxmi> raf: you can have a look at this: https://github.com/Tonejs/MidiConvert
[06:36] <Toxmi> It convert the midi to Notes (are A2, E3, ... note?).
[06:37] <EriC^^> i think he wants to make some music maker website, and he wants the separate notes in midi format
[06:37] <EriC^^> so like a user presses on 'do' and it plays the 'do' sound
[06:38] <Two_Dogs> guiverc: you have bt devices over pulseaudio?
[06:38] <guiverc> Two_Dogs, thanks for reply; nah.  (looking to see if this box even has bluetooth...)
[06:40] <Two_Dogs> the other guess is 'race condition'
[06:40] <Toxmi> EriC^^: Haa, I see. I think at least (not dealing with noise) there are some tools he could use. he just need to pipe them together.
[06:40] <Two_Dogs> i never worried about race till i started using ssd
[06:41] <guiverc> yeah that fits Two_Dogs - i don't recognize message  (and monitoring a sleep wake issue for a lp bug...)
[06:44] <evil_boy> hello
[06:44] <evil_boy> who online
[06:44] <jink> About 1500 people.
[06:44] <evil_boy> i have a question
[06:45] <evil_boy> i want a cool theme
[06:46] <jink> Not a clue, I only use the server flavor of Ubuntu.  But feel free to stick around; maybe someone else knows.
[06:46] <Two_Dogs> evil_boy: searched the app store for 'cool theme'?
[06:47] <ducasse> !theme | evil_boy
[06:47] <Two_Dogs> breeze=cool theme
[06:53] <mnr200> I'm having difficulties upgrading or replacing QT version
[06:53] <mnr200> I installed Qt5 form repo first that installs 5.5 by default
[06:54] <mnr200> But some of the module like QtQuick 2.7, QTWenengine doesn't work
[06:55] <mnr200> So, I installed the version 5.9.1 by downloading the file and running the binary
[06:55] <mnr200> But it does not recognize the upgraded version
[06:56] <mnr200> So how do I replace it?
[06:56] <mnr200> can anyone help with that?
[06:58] <nikolam> I have a problem with synaptic it stopped searching right, it found only small number of packages, where on the list similar named packages are listed, on search, they are not
[06:59] <SporkWitch> !info synaptics
[06:59] <SporkWitch> nikolam: apt search synaptics; this should include anything with "synaptics" in either the package name or description
[07:00] <LevierMRQ> Greetings.  Is there a room for 18.04, or here is?
[07:00] <oerheks> -s synaptic
[07:00] <LevierMRQ> Hoping that is english
[07:01] <jink> LevierMRQ: It's close enough to English for most people here to understand.  There's no separate channel for 18.04, as far as I know.
[07:01]  * SporkWitch points at the topic
[07:02] <nikolam> SporkWitch, 'synaptic' is Graphical package manager , it's not same as 'synaptics'
[07:02] <jink> SporkWitch: My irssi window is 130 wide, it doesn't show the full topic. :D
[07:02] <SporkWitch> nikolam: derp; usually i hear it come up in the context of touchpads lol
[07:03] <nikolam> jink, I think '/topic' command solves displaying topic.
[07:03] <SporkWitch> ^
[07:03] <jink> Sure. :D
[07:03] <jink> But I'm lazy, and don't re-read the topic every time.
[07:03] <nikolam> yes, synaptic is GUI package manager, were previously default. worked Ok on 18.04 untill.. it stopped searching right.
[07:03] <SporkWitch> jink: it's the current LTS, assume it's topical lol
[07:03] <nikolam> jink, me too ;p
[07:04] <jink> :D
[07:08] <LevierMRQ> I tried to make a path i can understand, reading solutions for the,,, see yourselfves:
[07:08] <LevierMRQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1768687
[07:09] <LevierMRQ> As ubonttu is telling.  I fear enough that is a kind of a bug.
[07:11] <MrIjal99> hai
[07:11] <MrIjal99> yuhuu
[07:12] <MrIjal99> yuhuuuuuuuu
[07:13] <MrIjal99> assalamualaikum
[07:14] <LevierMRQ> Give me a bit of Mrjal stuff.  Then tell me about the grub bug when i install 18,04 from a "try ubuntu" iso usb.
[07:14] <LevierMRQ> Understandable?
[07:20] <LevierMRQ> Prolly not.  Sorry my english.  i mean i seek help installing ubunbtu 18,04 LTS please.  ?
[07:20] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: what exactly is the problem?
[07:21] <LevierMRQ> Thanks Eric
[07:21] <LevierMRQ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1768687
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> !arabic | MrIjal99
[07:22] <LevierMRQ> EriC^^: Are you french.  As you write it, this is a french first name.
[07:23] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: no im not
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !fr | LevierMRQ
[07:24] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: where are you telling it to install grub?
[07:25] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: you can run the installer without installing grub using "ubiquity -b" then later manually install
[07:25] <LevierMRQ> I get a bug when i install 18,04 from a "try ubuntu" key from the official iso.
[07:25] <LevierMRQ> Great
[07:26] <LevierMRQ> What..  any suggestion for Grub tools, a noob can figure?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> LevierMRQ: follow EriC^^ advice, and you will be fine
[07:27] <EriC^^> something doesnt add up in your bug though,, extended partitions + grub-efi
[07:27] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: you have to boot your installer in legacy mode not uefi, since you're using windows too and it uses legacy
[07:28] <EriC^^> try booting in legacy mode you should be fine
[07:28] <LevierMRQ> This one is clear i think: What is that, Windows?
[07:29] <EriC^^> pardon?
[07:29] <usuario> hola
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !es | usuario
[07:30] <LevierMRQ> My IRC is Thunderbird.  All we say is written automatically.  So then, your help, eric, will be...  i mean i will follow...
[07:30] <EriC^^> LevierMRQ: ok great, i think
[07:31] <EriC^^> huge language and possible cultural barrier going on :)
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> and joke mixing :p
[07:31] <LevierMRQ> It looks like i got all i needed brothers :)
[07:34] <LevierMRQ> And our cultures are probably not so far too.  Greetings from Québec.
[07:36] <EriC^^> yes lebanese were occupied by french for some time :)
[07:36] <EriC^^> oh wait, you said quebec, nevermind :D
[08:15] <nicholasBPM> when copying text between two terminal windows the rows break, i am desperate for a solution.
[08:16] <RE_DUP_MAX> help help ubuntu not load
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !info terminator | nicholasBPM
[08:17] <EriC^^> RE_DUP_MAX: can you give more details screenshot maybe
[08:17] <spikebike> not sure if anyone is around, but ubuntu-16.04 mdadm seems broken, but building from source fixes it.  I emailed the devels on the linux-raid list to see if they agree.
[08:17] <RE_DUP_MAX> only show black screen on boot
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !bug | spikebike
[08:18] <spikebike> I'll definitely file if the linux-raid folks agree.
[08:21] <RE_DUP_MAX> my linux computer on ubuntu mate can change cursor for mouse pointter but it does not show change acrosss every window. it remains old cursor option and new option in diffrent window. how can i make it right?
[08:21] <Whiskey> How do you create a symlink from a folder to another folder?
[08:21] <spikebike> ln -sf source destination
[08:21] <EriC^^> Whiskey: ln -s /folder /linkname
[08:21] <Whiskey> like so
[08:22] <Whiskey> in sf /folder /home/whiskey/symlink
[08:23] <Whiskey> will create the symlink for folder in whisky folder whit the name symlink?
[08:23] <EriC^^> Whiskey: yes, ln -sf though
[08:24] <mnr200> Is Ubuntu 18.04 stable yet? I'm on 16.04 so how do you prefer to upgrade if it's stable
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | mnr200
[08:24] <EriC^^> mnr200: if you're looking for stability wait til 18.04.1 ^
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> mnr200: think it will be 26 july
[08:24] <spikebike> mnr200: do you have a single monitor?  two?
[08:25] <mnr200> OK thanks
[08:25] <tomreyn> RE_DUP_MAX: post a screen shot for the mouse pointer issue (take it with your real world smart phone or camera if the desktop is not fully functional). also discuss your ubuntu version (run: lsb_release -ds), and what you changed recently which may have introduced this issue.
[08:25] <mnr200> spikebike, yeah, I use only one laptop no external monitor
[08:25] <MrIjal99> hello
[08:26] <RE_DUP_MAX> tomreyn how can i post screenshot here?
[08:26] <MrIjal99> am form indonesia
[08:26] <spikebike> mnr200: I've got a few desktops on 18.04, seems fine/stable, certainly it will be moreso by 18.04.1
[08:26] <RE_DUP_MAX> im using kiwi web client
[08:26] <tomreyn> RE_DUP_MAX: upload to imgbin.com or similar
[08:26] <MrIjal99> hai
[08:26] <RE_DUP_MAX> cool
[08:27] <MrIjal99> woi kampret gua jangan di kacangin
[08:27] <tomreyn> RE_DUP_MAX: also explain why you're first asking for help with black screen on boot, then about issues with mouse pointer, this seem to be different boot stages and different issues.
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> !english | MrIjal99
[08:27] <MrIjal99>  am sorry
[08:28] <tomreyn> !id | MrIjal99
[08:29] <Whiskey> EriC^^: what happens if symlink allready exist will it auto overwrite it if the path is new?
[08:30] <EriC^^> Whiskey: i think in theory it should
[08:30] <Whiskey> ok
[08:30] <EriC^^> if you use -f
[08:31] <mnr200> spikebike, But upgrading from 16.04 is not reliable, right?
[08:31] <EriC^^> Whiskey: try it and see :)
[08:31] <spikebike> mnr200: worked for me, but there are risks.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> mnr200: its not the lts way yet at this time
[08:32] <mnr200> Ok, thanks
[08:32] <MrIjal99> hai
[08:37] <MrIjal99> hai
[08:37] <Browser> Hello. I am settings two screens as Mirrored from the Screen Display but after rebooting, the changes are reverted. How can I make them permanent? Thanks.
[08:42] <prenaux> hi, hopefully this is the right place to ask for help. I've installed ubuntu 18 on an Ideapad 720s, and everything works great, except that I can't wake up the machine with the laptop's keyboard, mouse or power button, I can only wake up the laptop with my Bluetooth mouse... I tried to add the devices manually, using this http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/220-ubuntu-resume-usb-hid, but that hasn't been succesful.
[08:53] <Allie`> netplan is pretty sweet. i'm liking netplan
[08:55] <Squall5668> Allie`: we can disagree on #ubuntu-discuss if you want
[08:55] <Allie`> ... why is discuss not in my bouncer? my bad :P
[08:57] <dimtsi> Hello everyone
[08:57] <dimtsi> I have a problem on 18.04
[08:57] <dimtsi> I installed the recommended nvidia drivers on the clean installation, and after that even though when I am running on NVidia everything is fine
[08:58] <dimtsi> when I am running on the integrated Intel graphics card I get slow boot times, apps open app really slowly and performance is much much worse in general, even for pretty basic tasks
[08:58] <dimtsi> Anyone has any idea?
[08:59] <spikebike> always use the nvidia?
[08:59] <dimtsi> okay on battery I cannot always use the NVidia
[08:59] <dimtsi> its consuming too damn much
[08:59] <dimtsi> also I did not have any problem on 16.04
[08:59] <spikebike> yeah, that's why I don't buy hybrids, it's the worst of both worlds
[09:00] <spikebike> maybe switch to something from gnome3, gnome3 is the heaviest of the desktop environments
[09:00] <spikebike> xfce is a common lightweight nevironment
[09:01] <dimtsi> pfff I really like gdm its a shame
[09:03] <dimtsi> anybody else heard about this sort of problem??
[09:03] <dimtsi> thanx
[09:04] <dimtsi> also it is a 4k XPS 15
[09:04] <spikebike> saw an article recently about the overhead of gnome3, the article concluded it was likely to heavy to ever run reasonably on a contrained environment like the Raspberry Pi
[09:04] <spikebike> ah, yeah, I've been sticking to 2560x1440 for frame rate/efficiency reasons
[09:04] <dimtsi> Im not gonna be running xfce I mean cmon :P
[09:05] <dimtsi> one question bcz I am not sure
[09:05] <tomreyn> dimtsi: does the output of "cat /proc/cmdline" contain "nomodeset" or similar?
[09:06] <dimtsi> tomryn: $ BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-22-generic root=UUID=9038b64a-8832-4537-b101-5d101c2095c6 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[09:06] <tomreyn> dimtsi: ok, it was just a shot in the dark
[09:07] <dimtsi> I am currently on nvidia though
[09:07] <dimtsi> do u want me to check when on Intel and get back at u?
[09:07] <tomreyn> dimtsi: it wont change.
[09:07] <dimtsi> ok sry dunno bit of a noob
[09:08] <tomreyn> dimtsi: you can boot the intel and then post /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:08] <dimtsi> will u find me on a new session? dont know how the irc stuff works
[09:08] <tomreyn> dimtsi:but itf you'Re runnign gnome3 then it's really just a matter of insufficient hardware, i would think
[09:09] <dimtsi> hang on logging into Intel and sending u
[09:10] <tomreyn> dimtsi: so, yes, you'r eon 18.04, and using the default desktop, so you tun the gnome 3 shell and that's your issue vcombined with the lack of computational resources available on the integrated intel gpu.
[09:12] <dimtsi> Hello again
 dimtsi: so, yes, you'r eon 18.04, and using the default desktop, so you tun the gnome 3 shell and that's your issue vcombined with the lack of computational resources available on the integrated intel gpu.
[09:14] <tomreyn> tun -> run
[09:14] <Laki> hmm would anyone happen to know why I can't connect to my ssh from the internet (my test machine is connecting to it over a vpn) https://bpaste.net/show/da34dd93589d
[09:15] <Squall5668> Laki: I assume the port is already forwarded in your router? Then it's usually the ISP blocking port 22, try some other port
[09:15] <dimtsi> tomreyn Im confused
[09:15] <spikebike> Laki: are you running an ssh daemon?
[09:15] <Laki> spikebike: yes and yes, i've also tried port 2244
[09:15] <dimtsi> can you rephrase? sry
[09:16] <dimtsi> except the insufficient hardware part
[09:16] <solsTiCe> Laki: I don't want to patronize but you know that "PermitRootLogin yes" is very wrong
[09:16] <spikebike> generally I'd turn on your firewall logging to display blocked connections, then just telnet to port 22 to test it
[09:16] <tomreyn> dimtsi: i'm basically just saying what has been said before: your intel graphics will be too slow for the increased demands of the default ubuntu desktop since 18.04.
[09:16] <dimtsi> oh ok, shit :P
[09:17] <Laki> solsTiCe: yes I'm aware, but it'll be safe enough for what im about to do with it :P
[09:17] <dimtsi> but before the nvidia external drivers installation it was working fine thats the weird thing
[09:17] <Squall5668> Laki: what is the output of the client with 'ssh -v'?
[09:17] <dimtsi> unless Ubuntu was running on nouveau by default
[09:18] <tomreyn> dimtsi: so i, too, would suggest considering to switch to a different desktop environment, such as xubuntu, ubuntu mate, lubuntu, budgie etc.
[09:18] <solsTiCe> Laki: and you don't even use ssh keys ? so root with a password.
[09:18] <solsTiCe> Laki: never mind
[09:18] <dimtsi> downgrading to ubuntu 16.04 with gdm3?
[09:18] <tomreyn> dimtsi: it probably wa susing nouveau initially
[09:18] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo apt install inxi
[09:18] <dimtsi> Id get the same results?
[09:19] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Fxxz | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:19] <Laki> Squall5668: it'll be connecting and then timeout, also spikebike telnetting to it gives "could not resolve my.ip:22 name or service not known
[09:19] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: wait
[09:19] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Fxxzc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:19] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: ok
[09:20] <spikebike> Laki: sounds like a network connectivity issue, not a visible IP, or a firewall (yours or others) is blocking it
[09:20] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/68zc
[09:20] <tomreyn> dimtsi: downgrades are not supported and will most likely fail. you can do a fresh install, though. 16.04 does not provde gnome3, it comes with gnome2. changing the desktop environment merley requires you to install new packages, not to reinstall or up/-downgrade.
[09:21] <dimtsi> yea I meant go clean and start fresh
[09:22] <dimtsi> but I will probably stick with nvidia and gdm3
[09:22] <Laki> spikebike: mmmm I can access it eveywhere on lan, and even connecting to it using the public ip address, but just not when the connecting machine is behind a vpn it seems
[09:22] <dimtsi> if that is indeed the case
[09:22] <tomreyn> hmm HD Graphics 630 isnt that bad, could actually work with gnome3
[09:23] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: how was nvidia installed?
[09:23] <dimtsi> tomreyn: exactly it does not make an sense having this much of a difference
[09:23] <dimtsi> terminal
[09:23] <tomreyn> dimtsi: i mean, not that bad compared to other integrated chipsets. https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+HD+630
[09:23] <spikebike> sounds like the other side of the VPN isn't allowing 22 to pass over it
[09:24] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: deb or run script?
[09:24] <Squall5668> Laki: A timeout is usually because of a firewall or other networking issue and not because of sshd itself. Also telnet's syntax is 'telnet IP PORT' not 'telnet IP:PORT'
[09:24] <dimtsi> apt-get install nvidia 390
[09:24] <spikebike> ah, yeah telnet a.b.c.d 22
[09:24] <dimtsi> and then also installed cuda 9.0 and cudnn for tensorflow
[09:25] <dimtsi> i did not deactivations of nouveau and that stuff
[09:25] <dimtsi> blacklisting etc.
[09:25] <Laki> Squall5668: mmm are you sure? :P https://i.imgur.com/ku91UQB.png
[09:26] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> lsmod | grep -Ei 'nvidia|nouveau|i915' | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:26] <Squall5668> Laki: 100% sure
[09:26] <Laki> okay :)
[09:26] <spikebike> Laki: that second line shows that the ip:22 was interpretted as a name, not an IP, and it failed to resolv
[09:27] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/shsp
[09:27] <spikebike> IPs don't have to resolv
[09:28] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:29] <dimtsi> http://termbin.com/k0cy
[09:30] <Laki> spikebike: Squall5668 hmm i can SSH into the machine from one of my VPS's which are completely remote, but it seems that whenever any sort of vpn is used (openvpn) it won't connect at all? How weird?
[09:30] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> (dpkg -l nvidia* ; dkms status) | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:31] <Squall5668> Laki: Not weird depending on the setup of the vpn. It sounds like you should ask again providing your openvpn configuration and any relevant information
[09:31] <Squall5668> Laki: for now, does any other port work when connecting via openvpn?
[09:31] <dimtsi> http://termbin.com/g0eje
[09:32] <Laki> Squall5668: nope, already tried 2244, lets try a bigger number
[09:32] <Squall5668> I mean, any other service at all, for example apache, or whatever else is installed on that box
[09:33] <Laki> Squall5668: nope, doesn't like it at all
[09:33] <Squall5668> Laki: Then you should double check your openvpn setup
[09:34] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: you installed multiple driver packages, not just one driver
[09:34] <Laki> Squall5668: yea will do, thanks for your help anyway guys :) spikebike
[09:35] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: I highly doubt that.
[09:35] <dimtsi> If the installation itself installs different version components I dk
[09:36] <dimtsi> but especially the 396 version I did not touch it
[09:36] <dimtsi> also, this probably has to do with the nvidia part which is working fine as far as Im concerned
[09:37] <dimtsi> I installed it as clean as possible
[09:38] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: http://termbin.com/g0eje look, where 'ii' means installed
[09:39] <dimtsi> only 384 is installed from the actual nvidia packages
[09:40] <dimtsi> i am pretty sure that the installation package was 390 though
[09:40] <dimtsi> apart from that i did not do anything else though
[09:40] <dimtsi> idk if anything else was installed during the cuda and cdnn installations
[09:41] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: you want to have a clean start, via purge of all nvidia, done so> sudo aptitude purge ~nnvidia ## then pick one driver and re-install, the dpkg dump says otherwise, multiple driver installed, good luck
[09:42] <dimtsi> ok
[09:42] <dimtsi> do I also have to uninstall cuda and cdnn as well?
[09:43] <dimtsi> any commands for total purge of those as well?
[09:43] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: the command i shared should purge all essense of nvidia that was installled via deb/apt
[09:44] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: install 'aptitude' if not installed now,  i dont know how apt/apt-get go about purge
[09:44] <dimtsi> thank you very much Two_Dogs appreciate it
[09:46] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: yw, if you do a dkms type install check that it took> dkms status ## btw the one existing now shown in dkms status should purge with the aptitude purge
[09:46] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: I am getting unable to apply some actions, aborting error
[09:47] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: from what command? be specific
[09:47] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: sudo aptitude purge ~nnvidia
[09:48] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~nnvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:48] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: exactly as shown
[09:48] <dimtsi> no sudo?
[09:48] <Two_Dogs> no
[09:48] <dimtsi> ok
[09:48] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude purge -sy ~nnvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[09:49] <SimonNL> nope no sudo there
[09:49] <dimtsi> http://termbin.com/0crq
[09:50] <pewds11> hi so I dual booted my MBR win10 laptop with ubuntu but i think I have ran into an issue
[09:51] <Two_Dogs> i am not seeing a complete dump
[09:51] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: ^^
[09:51] <Two_Dogs> dimtsi: do via terminal and use pastebin
[09:52] <pewds11> The Gparted software is showing unallocated space outside of the extended partition
[09:52] <pewds11> I want to convert that unallocated space to d drive for my windows
[09:54] <dimtsi> aptitude purge -sy ~nnvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 Unable to apply some actions, aborting http://termbin.com/0crq
[09:55] <tomreyn> pewds11: if the unpartitioned space it outside of extended area then you'll need to redo the extended area and thus all partitions within it.
[09:57] <pewds11> tomreyn : uh oh.. So what do I need to keep in my mind when i reinstall linux?
[09:57] <pewds11> like do i need to create a d drive as a logical partition before installing linux?
[10:00] <tomreyn> pewds11: many if not most computers can now handle gpt partition tables, which don't have this outdated concept of primary and extended partitions, thus provide more flexibility. also with the classic msdos partiton schemes, if you cretae just a small primary partition and partition the remaining space as extended and assign that to LVM (logical volume manager) you get a good level of flexibility.
[10:00] <dimtsi> Two_Dogs: Im not sure how to post to pastebin
[10:00] <EriC^^> pewds11: what's your partition table look like? pastebin 'sudo parted -l'
[10:00] <SimonNL> aptitude purge -sy ~nnvidia | pastebinit       dimtsi should work if installed, no idea what the limit is.
[10:00] <dimtsi> the output of the terminal is the one I sent you above though
[10:00] <tomreyn> !pastebin | dimtsi
[10:01] <dimtsi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NzVXBMycQF
[10:01] <SimonNL> Two_Dogs: ^
[10:01] <dimtsi> thanks guys sry
[10:01] <SimonNL> mmm
[10:01] <SimonNL> also not a complete paste
[10:02] <dandels> Hi, when you use the Software & Updates GUI app to change which (display) driver is used for an nvidia card, where is this setting stored?
[10:03] <dimtsi> Using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-390 (proprietary, tested)
[10:03] <tomreyn> dandels: i dont think this is a setting which gets stored. instead, a package is installed and that is detected the next time it runs.
[10:03] <dimtsi> on the Additional Drivers tab ofc
[10:03] <pewds11> Eric^^C : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZCz2zhKFG3/
[10:03] <dandels> I see. And if you wanted to undo this change, you would uninstall that package?
[10:03] <dandels> My dad just called me that he poked that setting and can't log in graphically
[10:04] <dimtsi> I am logging in
[10:04] <dimtsi> actually NVidia is working perfectly
[10:04] <tomreyn> dandels: you can use the command line variant of it to swiutch back, i think. that'd be ubuntu-drivers
[10:04] <dimtsi> the problem is with the Integrated cards
[10:04] <dimtsi> Integrated Graphics Intel card
[10:04] <EriC^^> pewds11: the extended partition needs to be til the end
[10:05] <dimtsi> that one is quite slow on gdm3
[10:05] <dimtsi> especially on booting and shutting down
[10:05] <EriC^^> pewds11: you might be able to edit it from ubuntu
[10:06] <dimtsi> dandels: That setting has to do with nvidia/ nouveau drivers not intel graphics
[10:06] <EriC^^> pewds11: type "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print" and pastebin it
[10:07] <dandels> I wasn't talking about switching between an integrated and discrete gpu. His AMD card is/was very old so he went to buy a cheap Nvidia one, and I guess he didn't want to use the nouveau driver (I guess that's the one used by default)
[10:07] <pewds11> Eric^^ : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qf6chdgNTd/
[10:08] <dimtsi> that option is not available from software and updates
[10:08] <dimtsi> you can do it either from nvidia x server or terminal
[10:08] <dimtsi> i think the command is prime-nvidia sth
[10:09] <pewds11> EriC^^ : There's 778 gigs of unallocated space...
[10:09] <dimtsi> but yeah thats not the problem here
[10:09] <dandels> This screenshot disagrees though: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/additional-drivers2.jpg
[10:09] <dimtsi> I do not get this option
[10:09] <EriC^^> pewds11: type 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[10:11] <pewds11> EriC^^ : done
[10:11] <dimtsi> https://imgur.com/a/UtCeQ3l
[10:11] <EriC^^> pewds11: go to the extended partition and delete it
[10:12] <pewds11> EriC^^ : umm that would delete ubuntu right? I'm on ubuntu rn
[10:13] <EriC^^> pewds11: nah it'll still run
[10:14] <EriC^^> the kernel is kind of linked into the filesystem, we're editing the partition table on the disk, if you write it now and reboot it'd be confused, yes
[10:14] <pewds11> EriC^^ : okayy.. how do I go around deleting the extended partition
[10:14] <EriC^^> pewds11: press 'p' in fdisk
[10:14] <pewds11> then
[10:15] <EriC^^> pewds11: press 'd'
[10:15] <pewds11> it's asking for partition number now
[10:15] <EriC^^> choose the extended partition
[10:15] <pewds11> sda4 is the extended partition so 4?
[10:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:16] <pewds11> it shows partiton 4 has been deleted..
[10:16] <EriC^^> great
[10:17] <EriC^^> pewds11: now create an extended partition with 'n'
[10:17] <EriC^^> starting sector 225282046 and use the last sector as the end
[10:19] <pewds11> like I gotta type end for the last sector?
[10:19] <EriC^^> no what's the default value its giving?
[10:20] <pewds11> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mdpnVdzWzZ/
[10:21] <EriC^^> pewds11: keep it blank and press 'enter'
[10:22] <tomeaton17> Hello, at the moment I have a laptop with windows and arch linux on it. I am using refind bootloader. For various reasons I need to switch back to ubuntu. Is it possible to install ubuntu over arch linux without installing grub so it will work with refind?
[10:22] <pewds11> Eric^^ : Created a new partition 4 of type 'Extended' and of size 824.1 GiB.
[10:22] <pewds11> this is what is shows
[10:22] <pewds11> it*
[10:22] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: yeah, use 'ubiquity -b' to launch the installer so grub doesnt get installed
[10:23] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: you can't avoid grub though come to think of it, it needs to install the grubx64.efi files and whatnot
[10:23] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: let it install as usual, without the -b flag, then after it's one use efibootmgr to have refind launch by default
[10:23] <EriC^^> pewds11: great
[10:24] <EriC^^> pewds11: now great a logical partition at sector 225282048 with end at 241281023
[10:24] <EriC^^> same for the last ext4 partition, i'm using https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qf6chdgNTd/ for the sectors
[10:24] <EriC^^> finally create the 'd' drive with the remaining space in the extended partition
[10:25] <EriC^^> *now create
[10:25] <lrb> I have a couple questions. What software controls the wallpaper seen when I'm putting in the password for the disk encryption? Also, what would I need to start looking for if installing Adapta and applying it via gnome-tweaks doesn't apply it to hte bar with my clock?
[10:25] <tomeaton17> EriC^^: okay, so I assume on the install disk I choose the "try out distro" option instead of installing?
[10:25] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: yes
[10:26] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: sudo efibootmgr -v lists the entries, sudo efibootmgr -o <order> changes the order
[10:26] <tomeaton17> So grub is installed anyway, so I could just install as normal and then select refind with efibootmgr is that what you are saying?
[10:26] <pewds11> EriC^^ :it says value out of range
[10:26] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: yes
[10:27] <EriC^^> pewds11: what does 'p' give now?
[10:27] <pewds11> umm i just did n
[10:27] <pewds11> how do i go back
[10:27] <pewds11> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d4825ftxGW/
[10:29] <EriC^^> pewds11: no worries, use the starting sector its giving
[10:29] <EriC^^> (keep it blank and hit enter)
[10:29] <EriC^^> it wont matter anyways cause it's just the swap, it's important the ext4 filesystem's partition starts exactly at the old location though
[10:30] <pewds11> EriC^^ :  Did I screw something up? Created a new partition 5 of type 'Linux' and of size 824.1 GiB.
[10:31] <dandels> tomreyn: thanks, simply instructing him to uninstall the new driver fixed it for him.
[10:31] <EriC^^> pewds11: delete it using 'd' and create it again using 241281023 as the end sector
[10:31] <EriC^^> so starting sector > blank, end sector 241281023
[10:32] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Created a new partition 5 of type 'Linux' and of size 7.6 GiB.
[10:32] <EriC^^> pewds11: ok, now for the ext4 partition
[10:33] <EriC^^> press n, starting sector 241283072
[10:33] <EriC^^> end sector 321282047
[10:34] <pewds11> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sXpP25fXJB/
[10:35] <EriC^^> no
[10:35] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Yep typed N
[10:36] <EriC^^> pewds11: ok, now create the 'd' one
[10:36] <EriC^^> use the default values for both starting sector and end
[10:38] <pewds11> EriC^^ : can I then resize my d drive or linux partition if I might want to in future?
[10:38] <EriC^^> you could yeah
[10:38] <EriC^^> it'll take time though keep in mind
[10:39] <pewds11> okay cool so for creating d drive , I have to follow the same steps? typing in n and then proceeding?
[10:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:40] <pewds11> EriC^^ : umm time as in?  The process is a bit time consuming?
[10:40] <EriC^^> yeah, it's a process of moving data to the right or left, so the whole partition contents have to be moved
[10:41] <EriC^^> not manually, it just takes long, so it's a bit of a wait
[10:42] <pewds11> EriC^^ :  can we leave a buffer space like some freespace that could be used up later?
[10:42] <EriC^^> you might as well use it now, if you create it later to use it you'd have to move the windows back anyways
[10:43] <pewds11> EriC^^ : okay, gotcha
[10:43] <pewds11> Created a new partition 7 of type 'Linux' and of size 778.3 GiB.
[10:44] <EriC^^> pewds11: ok, press 'p' then change the type of the swap partition to "82" swap
[10:44] <sruli> anyone tried running ubuntu-server from usb stick in production? i have HP DL320 8x256GB SSD RAID 10, does it make sense to run the OS from internal usb slot, will it effect the performance of kvm vm's on the main raid? on the flip side if i install the os on main raid will that have any effect on performance of kvm?
[10:45] <EriC^^> pewds11: for the 'd' one, set the type to '7'
[10:46] <pewds11> Eric^^ : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S3sD4pnH2f/
[10:46] <pewds11> umm how do I change the type ?
[10:47] <EriC^^> press 't'
[10:48] <pewds11> change the hex code to 82 for swap?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:48] <tomreyn> sruli: you may want the OS to reside on a mirror raid. if this doesn't matter to you then running it from an usb >=2.1, better >=3.0 SSD (not just a cheap usb stick) may be an option, as long as it doesn't block your air flow.
[10:48] <EriC^^> pewds11: yes
[10:49] <EriC^^> pewds11: change the 'd' one to 7
[10:51] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Done. This is what p shows https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y8n57NBVpr/
[10:53] <the_cuckoo> hmm - on the default ubuntu desktop, where are user preferences for audio stored? (on startup, i hear the ubuntu chime, but when i use of the two users on my laptop, sound dies on login - the other user is just fine)
[10:53] <the_cuckoo> this is ubuntu 16.04
[10:54] <EriC^^> pewds11: looking good
[10:54] <sruli> tomreyn: i am not sure if the usb port is usb 2 or 3, if its 2 it wont really make a difference between usb/ssd, unless i can find a way to get power to the ssd in the dl320 in which case i can connect it to a sata port, have not found a way to get the ssd powered though
[10:54] <EriC^^> pewds11: press 'w' to write the table
[10:55] <pewds11> It has thrown some errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jpyqf3ghTV/
[10:56] <sruli> tomreyn: i ran some bonnie++ test with the os installed on main raid vs on usb, see the results here, https://www.saurymper.com/pages/bonnie-results-2018-05-31.html see  Set 1 & 3 tests
[10:59] <EriC^^> pewds11: try 'sudo partprobe'
[10:59] <EriC^^> sudo partprobe /dev/sda
[11:00] <pewds11> EriC^^ : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hh2jWkrRcM/
[11:01] <EriC^^> pewds11: no big deal, right now we need to comment out the swap partition from the filesystem tab so on the next boot it doesn't try to mount it and not find it, then we can add it back it and recreate it
[11:01] <EriC^^> pewds11: what does 'sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print" show right now?
[11:02] <pewds11> EriC^^ : okayy .. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p6snkxSXBM/
[11:03] <EriC^^> pewds11: ok, type 'sudo swapoff -a'
[11:03] <tomreyn> sruli: performance is probably good enough with the usb stick for now. i'd be much more worried about its reliability / mtbf
[11:03] <pewds11> EriC^^ :  done.
[11:03] <EriC^^> pewds11: try sudo partprobe /dev/sda    again
[11:04] <pewds11> Eric^^ : Done
[11:04] <EriC^^> +1 on usb os reliability
[11:04] <EriC^^> pewds11: type 'grep swap /etc/fstab' and paste the result
[11:05] <pewds11> EriC^^ : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jMfp32KrdJ/
[11:06] <EriC^^> pewds11: type 'sudo mkswap -U 29a82a0c-788c-4c62-bcc8-e2a540cf524b /dev/sda5
[11:07] <sruli> tomreyn: reliability is most important really... i guess i will just install it on the raid set, did you have a look at the bonnie results?
[11:07] <tomreyn> sruli: i did.
[11:08] <sruli> tomreyn: do they look decent for 8 ssd's in raid 10?
[11:08] <pewds11> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y3GQYYhXzV/
[11:11] <tomreyn> sruli: i'm not an expert. but testing with write caching enabled is probably not too useful for benchmarking.
[11:11] <EriC^^> pewds11: ok, now for the d drive, sudo mkfs.ntfs -Q /dev/sda7
[11:12] <pewds11> EriC^^ : Done. It says Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes. Creating NTFS volume structures. mkntfs completed successfully. Have a nice day.
[11:12] <tomreyn> sruli: oh its the drives' internal write caches, that's ok then, since you also did (somewhat) sustained tests.
[11:13] <EriC^^> pewds11: awesome, try rebooting and stuff
[11:13] <pewds11> reboot into ubuntu? or win?
[11:13] <EriC^^> ubuntu
[11:13] <pewds11> okayy lemme try
[11:15] <sruli> tomreyn: i dont have a clue what those results mean, would you say thats good results based on the hardware?
[11:16] <pewds11_> EriC^^ : Yep. rebooted it I'm back
[11:20] <flai> Hey, I already asked yesterday: is there a way that my secondary monitor will switch workspaces along my primary one?
[11:20] <flai> Like the behaviour in ubuntu 16
[11:20] <flai> I know we switched to gnome, but I always liked that behavior
[11:21] <tomreyn> sruli: cant seem to find the specs for this system. you'll probably get a good result with these disks, this controller on a gen8 hp server, though.
[11:22] <tomreyn> sruli: and none of this is ubuntu related reaqlly ;)
[11:22] <sruli> tomreyn: thanks
[11:25] <pewds11_> EriC^^ : umm that's it? Do I have to do anything else for the partitioning part?
[11:25] <sruli> tomreyn: real question is would there be any difference if ubuntu is installed on same raid set as where i want to run my kvm vm's?
[11:30] <tomreyn> sruli: hardly. the maximum possible iops of the vms stored on the same disks as the os may be slightly decreased. but with raid10, this will probably not be noticeable. personally, with this hardware, i'd do a raid 1 across two ssds, then use the rest for vm storage, just to keep things separate.
[11:31] <tomreyn> sruli:oh and you should not cross post, of course.
[11:32] <flai> Ah, i managed to fix that with dconf-editor. Why this crucial setting is not exposed in the UI is a mystery to me.
[11:32] <Squall5668> As a side note, currently running ~10 VMs on the same array the os is in, and getting better performance than vsphere had with the exact same guests (mix of multiple OSs)
[11:32] <Squall5668> Take that as you will
[11:33] <sruli> tomreyn: cross post?
[11:34] <tomreyn> !crosspost  | sruli
[11:34] <the_cuckoo> found some more stuff about my audio issues - when i run unity-control-center from my terminal, and go into the sound panel, i get a bunch of warnings like "unable to find stream for bar '(null)'" and a few others (will copy/paste if necessary) - but it looks to me like i just need to reset the audio stuff to defaults and it should work - does anyone know how they're stored and how you can modify them? (other than through the unity thing)
[11:34] <sruli> tomreyn: got it, thanks
[11:34] <sruli> Squall5668: thanks
[11:36] <Squall5668> sruli: please keep in mind I have not tested kvm extensivly and that's why there are only 10 vms even though this is in production. I'm just making a note here.
[11:37] <sruli> Squall5668: will keep in mind, thanks
[11:41] <DeathTickle1> Hey all, I would like to use DNSSEC on my Ubuntu 16.04 desktop? Is it possible ? I only found information to install DNSSEC on Debain and Arch
[11:44] <the_cuckoo> oh well - found a "solution" to my audio issue - plugged in a pair of usb headphones - suddenly i get both usb headphones and the system sound device selectable again
[11:45] <the_cuckoo> no idea what's going on though
[11:46] <the_cuckoo> also seems to have been sufficient to fix it for warm/cold reboots too - baffling :D
[11:47] <plasmoduck> How can I stop my bluetooth keyboard going into powersaving sleep mode??????
[11:47] <plasmoduck> Because after a few minutes of inactivity it goes to sleep and takes like 10 seconds to register a key press which is REALLY annoying.
[11:47] <the_cuckoo> make a little robot which periodically hits the shift key?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> the_cuckoo, the command sudo alsactl store is supposed to store all your alsamixer settings after editing
[11:48] <jk^> !tor
[11:48] <the_cuckoo> BluesKaj: ah - many thanks :)
[11:48] <the_cuckoo> plasmoduck: that wasn't official support advice btw :p
[11:49] <BluesKaj> the_cuckoo, dunno how reliable itis though, i've seen them change without warning, but i don't know why.
[11:49] <the_cuckoo> hmm - well, at least i have a work around with the usb headphones it seems :)
[11:51] <BluesKaj> the_cuckoo, pulseaudio settings also have some effect on the final output
[11:52] <the_cuckoo> BluesKaj: is there a tool to edit those?
[11:52] <m2_teknix> Hi accidently deleted a folder in my home directory by "rm -r". How can I recover it.
[11:53] <the_cuckoo> BluesKaj: i installed the pavu thing - didn't seem to help though
[11:53] <kota__> bisuketto
[11:53] <the_cuckoo> kovefefe
[11:54] <blackflow> m2_teknix: with a lot of difficulty, if at all. easier to restore from backups.
[11:54] <za1b1tsu> Is it possible to have a live iso of ubuntu server? just put it on a stick and test it?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> the_cuckoo, pavucontrol sets your device audio output and volume.
[11:55] <m2_teknix>  blackflow I do not have a back up. What would be the difficult ways. There are a few ".rst" files in that folder, that's all.No media files
[11:56] <jacobian> I have a brcmfmac module for 4.13 kernel, but not 4.15
[11:56] <jacobian> How do I force the install of kernel modules for a kernel?
[11:56] <jacobian> (and why aren't they installed for 4.15....)
[11:56] <blackflow> !info extundelete | m2_teknix
[11:57] <xirg> hello, i have ubuntu desktop installed as a virtual machine that will only be accessed through VNC, I am having problems starting starting lxde and i think it might be due to lack of system memory because there's already a default desktop running
[11:57] <xirg> how can I configure ubuntu to only initialize a desktop environment when i start a vnc server
[11:57] <xirg> i'm running ubuntu desktop 18
[11:58] <s10gopal> how to rename multiple files ? i have files like file 1 , file 2 ... i want to remove file word from every file
[11:58] <m2_teknix> ubottu: Any tips, suggestions so that I do not screw the revover process, as there wont be a secone chance I guess
[11:58] <s10gopal> ubottu, rename multiple files
[11:58] <m2_teknix> lol...that's funny
[12:00] <knucklesfan> sup guys!
[12:00] <knucklesfan> im just testing my wifi on my new laptop
[12:01] <knucklesfan> alright, this proves it's working, thanks guys!
[12:07] <guiverc> s10gopal, `rename` can be used to rename files (using regex)
[12:09] <s10gopal> guiverc, i have files like s1 smae,s1 etdf,s1 dod and i want to rename them to smae,tdf,dod
[12:09] <mnr200> Why /var/log/dpkg.log shows nothing?
[12:09] <mnr200> I mean with cat
[12:09] <s10gopal> this type of operation is not supported by rename command
[12:10] <EriC^^> s10gopal: sure it is, rename 's/^s1//' s1*
[12:11] <s10gopal> EriC^^, thx
[12:11] <EriC^^> actually you want rename 's/^s1 //' s1*
[12:11] <EriC^^> np
[12:11] <EriC^^> mnr200: it might have been just rotated by the log system
[12:12] <EriC^^> look at dpkg.log.1 for previous
[12:14] <Berserk> I'm using smartmontools to setup a monthly scan. I was wondering what the two empty fields represent in this time format? (O/../../5/11) I know 5 is for the day of week Friday and 11 is 11AM. I'm assuming the first is the month and the second is 1-4 week?
[12:18] <niu> hi
[12:19] <EriC^^> hello
[12:19] <oupala> Hi, does anyone know why has gtetrinet been removed from bionic although it was available in artful? https://reposcope.com/package/gtetrinet
[12:21] <s10gopal> EriC^^, how to understand 's/^s1//' s1* ? what topic i have to study
[12:22] <s10gopal> Metacharacters ?
[12:23] <JimBuntu> s10gopal, regex
[12:23] <guiverc> s10gopal, s/search-string/replacement-string/  (replacement was null, hence //, ^ = start of line... (regex characters..)
[12:24] <s10gopal> thx
[12:24] <jk^> !tor
[12:25] <guiverc> s10gopal, `man` (reference manual) is a great tool, `info` for topics/subjects, & `apropros` to search for pages when you don't know topic/command when you don't know what topic/command is....
[12:27] <jk^> is there any error? https://pastebin.com/raw/vxYj8423
[12:27] <JimBuntu> Berserk, basically, it's TestType/MM/DD/d/HH  This page has what you are looking for http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/smartd.conf.5.html
[12:33] <DYMC> hello i am DYMC
[12:34] <ElMatad0r> hi
[12:34] <ElMatad0r> someone home???
[12:34] <Berserk> JimBuntu, Thank you. Are the manpages on the website different than on the system? I couldn't find it anywhere in my man smartd.
[12:35] <mgedmin> that's not man smartd, that's man smartd.conf
[12:38] <u0_a109> OAOAOA
[12:38] <u0_a109> OAOAOAOAOAOAOAs
[12:38] <za1b1tsu> Anyway I can get a barebones ubuntu live cd (no gui, x)? Ubuntu server does not have a try option from what I see
[12:38] <JimBuntu> Berserk, yes, I was going to simply copy paste or suggest that you check the man page. You *should* see the same info from `man smartd.conf`
[12:39] <mgedmin> za1b1tsu: can you switch to a different virtual console (with alt-right/left) and see if you get a shell on one of them?
[12:39] <u0_a109> hello im mr aka
[12:39] <za1b1tsu> mgedmin: Iet me try
[12:43] <za1b1tsu> mgedmin: it worked! I am noob, sorry for questions, but this means right now I have a proper ubuntu?
[12:44] <mgedmin> well, you have a live session of ubuntu running on a ramdisk
[12:44] <za1b1tsu> mgedmin: just like Try Ubuntu on a Desktop live cd?
[12:44] <mgedmin> it could be useful for various recovery tasks etc
[12:44] <za1b1tsu> or is there a difference? Can I install i3 etc?
[12:44] <mgedmin> you can install stuff as long as you don't run out of RAM
[12:45] <mgedmin> (I haven't done this on a server livecd yet; I've done it on a desktop livecd session)
[12:45] <za1b1tsu> mgedmin: oh I see, so the Desktop Live CD uses the USB stick for storage and this one uses ram? Or the desktop live cd uses ramdisk as well?
[12:46] <DYMC> i am nobb..
[12:46] <DYMC> saya minta kerjasamanya
[12:48] <xirg> if I want to only boot to CLI unless i decide to start a vnc server, I should use systemd set-default multi-user.target, right?
[12:48] <xirg> this is ubuntu 18 desktop
[12:49] <mgedmin> za1b1tsu: the desktop livecd also uses a ramdisk
[12:49] <mgedmin> za1b1tsu: IIRC there was once an option to have a persistent livecd session that would store stuff on a USB disk, but I don't remember how it worked, or if it's still supported?
[12:50] <xirg> i think knoppix has something like that
[12:50] <xirg> i don't know if it's still supported
[12:50] <xirg> i guess that's not ubuntu though
[12:50] <mgedmin> xirg: I think to turn off GUI by default you'd have to systemctl disable gdm.service
[12:50] <Squall5668> xirg: I'm quite sure the same is in ubuntu, are you getting an error?
[12:50] <za1b1tsu> mgedmin: cool, I will google it. Thank you for you help
[12:51] <DYMC> sorry my system error
[12:51] <xirg> mgedmin, i am running a virtualhost so i only ever use graphical through VNC
[12:51] <mgedmin> xirg: but actually now I think maybe you're more correct than I was so please ignore me
[12:52] <xirg> mgedmin, okay thx
[12:52] <xirg> Squall5668, no error, just confirming bc I coulnd't find good info on behavior of various targets
[12:53] <Asuran> hi, i got a fresh 18.04 install and it seems that something started transfering stuff which tcpdump even doesnt show, neither nethogs. i thought its akamai but it seems apps just use this as host. my problem is how to get out whats trasnfering stuff? only 3 kernel packets are even dropped, so its like something hidden from tcpdump?
[12:53] <Asuran> i used before kde with other distro btw. 0 behavior like that.
[12:53] <xirg> Asuran, ubuntu 18 gathers data unless you opt-out
[12:53] <xirg> maybe that's it?
[12:53] <Asuran> you mean the stuff under privacy settings? i disabled that
[12:54] <JimBuntu> Asuran, I am unsure how you know stuff is being transferred or what it is... but you could install `iftop` to monitor connections, bandwidth and ports being used.
[12:54] <xirg> yea
[12:54] <Asuran> but still problem since yesterday
[12:54] <Squall5668> Asuran: let's start with how do you know something is being transfered if tcpdump shows nothing
[12:54] <Asuran> JimBuntu: no i dont know about such stuff i googled
[12:54] <Asuran> my wlan card got a lamp
[12:55] <Asuran> which blinks when action is going on
[12:55] <Asuran> the treshold is kinda good
[12:55] <Squall5668> Asuran: are you sure it's not just ARP?
[12:55] <Asuran> so no issues there
[12:55] <Asuran> well i checked tcpdump and yes ARP was present but not that much the wird comes now: when i now use tcpdump i barely get anything except normal behavior
[12:55] <Asuran> but still same problem
[12:55] <JimBuntu> Squall5668, avahi and other service discovery systems are great for added traffic too
[12:55] <Asuran> its just on ubuntu
[12:57] <Asuran> same with iftop activity still going on but 0 display
[12:57] <Squall5668> JimBuntu: you are right ofcourse, I just stated an example. Which should show up in tcpdump though. I have no idea what a blinking light in a wifi card even does so, I'm out of ideas now
[12:58] <Asuran> its really weird, yesterday i installed this. and first hours no problem
[12:58] <Asuran> but then this started
[12:58] <Asuran> and it wont stop
[12:58] <seere> Asuran: what's the tcpdump call you are using?
[12:58] <Asuran> i recognized problem because of slower speed of my connection
[12:58] <Asuran> the one of the offical repo
[12:58] <Asuran> via apt-get
[12:59] <Asuran> the behavior of tcpdump look normal even the length etc.
[12:59] <Asuran> it doesnt fit to the acivity monitored on my network card
[12:59] <Asuran> and this is just on ubuntu
[12:59] <Asuran> so idk tbh whats going on
[13:00] <Asuran> i even made with my phone a video, no joke. i thought already no one would believe me
[13:00] <seere> Asuran: I mean - which options do you use when calling tcpdump? Any filters in effect?
[13:01] <Asuran> nope
[13:01] <Asuran> just sudo tcpdump
[13:01] <JimBuntu> `sudo tcpdump -i any` please
[13:04] <mgedmin> Asuran: have you checked the packet and byte counters in `ifconfig` output?
[13:05] <mgedmin> e.g. run `watch ifconfig wlp3s0` on one terminal and `tcpdump -n -i wlp3s0` in another; do you see a packet in tcpdump every time the counters increase?
[13:05] <mgedmin> (replace wlp3s0 with your wifi card device name)
[13:06] <mgedmin> `wavemon` is another nice tool to monitor wifi activity
[13:06] <Asuran> mgedmin: https://pastebin.com/QiVpKTdx
[13:06] <geodb27> People : hi ! On one of my ubuntu lts64 16.04 server, I must install php5.6. So I went to add ondrej/php ppa and installed the wanted packages. However, php lacks pear (it is not mentionned at all in the phpinfo page. Is that an known problem ?
[13:06] <xirg> what's the best lightweight desktop environment to run on a vm
[13:07] <xirg> right now i'm using lxde but i don't like the looks of it
[13:07] <mgedmin> wifi might also be active on the link layer (receiving beacon frames, renewing AP associations, retransmitting failed packages) that won't show up on tcpdump
[13:07] <Asuran> mgedmin: good point
[13:08] <Asuran> mgedmin: the weird thing is: this issues just happened after i started using ubuntu
[13:08] <Asuran> before i were on archlinux with kde, no expierence like this
[13:08] <JimBuntu> Asuran, firmware difference?
[13:08] <Asuran> i doubt it, its rtl2800
[13:08] <JimBuntu> Can you boot back into Arch and confirm.
[13:09] <mgedmin> I wonder if the wifi led is controlled by the kernel driver?  could be a kernel version difference
[13:09] <Asuran> well on arch i used 4,15 and 4,16 then later with zen patches
[13:09] <mgedmin> I would expect ubuntu to do things like apt-get update in the background periodically (twice a day), but those things would show up in tcpdump
[13:09] <Asuran> mgedmin: exactly and i doubt its that because its permanently
[13:10] <Asuran> it started few hours after install of 18.04
[13:10] <Asuran> before all was fine
[13:10] <JimBuntu> That's one thing that gets me... it started hours later.
[13:10] <Asuran> me too
[13:10] <Asuran> i cant explain it but i will try mgedmin recommendet
[13:10] <JimBuntu> Did you say that you CAN boot back into Arch for confirmation?
[13:12] <Asuran> JimBuntu: sure i get any live iso and even try this if this even has same no problem like my arch installation i used weeks
[13:12] <Asuran> then im sure its not normal
[13:12] <Asuran> JimBuntu: recommend me any live iso i would like to use other than arch would make better clue
[13:12] <JimBuntu> If your router has a logging feature, it might be good to activate and watch that as well... that should show associations/etc
[13:13] <Asuran> oh yea but i doubt its that low lvl the logging stuff there but i check it
[13:13] <JimBuntu> Mint? Kali?
[13:14] <JimBuntu> Debian. Maybe even an older Ubuntu, such as 16.04
[13:14] <Asuran> mgedmin: its running i paste it as soon enough data
[13:15] <Father-1991> i using 16.04 for little old notebook and all working fine no error giving debian its great too but hard with firmware realtek example with HP NB
[13:15] <JimBuntu> These ones I offered don't have any historical precedence to if you will experience the same thing, which is why I suggested the previous OS that you knew the behavior of.  I would also suggest closing out any browsers, IRC... anything using the internet first, so you can more easily filter to any traffic that *could* be the culprit.
[13:15] <Asuran> but thats weird already the watch ifconfig <device> is weird packets seem normal to what running (this firefox webchat only)
[13:16] <Asuran> and still blinks due activity
[13:16] <Asuran> JimBuntu: i did that already before i decided to ask here
[13:16] <Asuran> i used google and got into the akmai thing
[13:16] <Asuran> but it seems not to be the problem
[13:17] <JimBuntu> Asuran, do you happen to have another wifi networj you can join, completely isolated from that one?
[13:17] <Asuran> tcpdump atleast didnt gave me after any worry about it
[13:17] <Asuran> well only private networks here
[13:17] <Asuran> around 24 all closed wpa2
[13:18] <Asuran> well i didnt had this issues months with archlinux
[13:18] <Asuran> and neither with windows
[13:18] <Asuran> before
[13:18] <Asuran> and it started ONLY after few hours of ubuntu
[13:18] <Asuran> any way to see when i installed ubuntu? i would to know
[13:19] <JimBuntu> So, only a few hours after the moon was in the exact position it was a few hours ago, got it. I'm not trying to be rude, but I want to point out that it was hours later, so it *may* not be related. Best to confirm before entering the rabbit hole
[13:20] <Asuran> o.O
[13:20] <JimBuntu> 24 wireless networks... that alone can impact your speeds due to interference, channel hopping &c
[13:21] <Asuran> well no cuz threshold is working good
[13:21] <Asuran> and its just private networks
[13:21] <Asuran> not all are used same time
[13:21] <Asuran> most are from devices
[13:21] <Asuran> printer etc.
[13:21] <Asuran> i live in small area
[13:21] <Asuran> and this problem wasnt before
[13:21] <Asuran> not even directly after ubuntu installation
[13:22] <Asuran> it started some hours after i used bbuntu
[13:22] <Asuran> it stopped then i thought its firefox
[13:22] <Asuran> but now it doesnt stop
[13:22] <Asuran> so thats why im concerned
[13:22] <Asuran> i thought like you its apt-get background triggered by ubuntu
[13:22] <Asuran> but its definitly not
[13:22] <JimBuntu> Ok. Plain and simple, are you refusing to connect to a completely different wifi network in order to rule out if something on this network is causing the increase in traffic?
[13:23] <Asuran> tcpdump still looks normal
[13:23] <Asuran> there is no other network i could connect to.
[13:23] <mgedmin> so hey if iptables blocks an incoming packet, I think tcpdump won't see it?
[13:23] <mgedmin> do you have a firewall enabled?
[13:23] <Asuran> except you tell me how i can break wpa2
[13:23] <Father-1991> i have problem before with ubuntu 18+ after surfing in browser notebook gone to freeze maybe its good way for choose 16.04 if you want
[13:23] <Asuran> mgedmin: plain ubuntu 18.04 installation
[13:23] <mgedmin> ufw enables logging to the kernel log so you can see dropped packets in dmesg (or journalctl)
[13:24] <Asuran> okay
[13:24] <mgedmin> ufw is not enabled by default, I believe (ubuntu instead comes with no open network ports by default and so considers the firewall to be redunant)
[13:25] <JimBuntu> And... that traffic should also cease if you change to a network where there isn't a device making those calls to your IP
[13:25] <Asuran> i would like to know if this is maybe a bugged service (which i then wonder why it even in tcpdump doesnt appear but maybe ACP from wifi?) or whatever im no expert in this things but when somethings slows down my con
[13:27] <Asuran> still same even i shutdown dect phone + smart tv
[13:27] <Asuran> comepletely
[13:27] <Asuran> no electricity for smart tv to prevent stand by
[13:29] <Asuran> https://pastebin.com/cyKqEU70
[13:30] <sanjibukai> Hi everybody..
[13:30] <sanjibukai> Can anyone help me configure ma keyboard layout using xkb?
[13:30] <sanjibukai> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/447253/how-to-have-multipl-level-3-modifier-using-xkb
[13:33] <Asuran> brb i try change wlan channel maybe thats a problem (the)
[13:33] <Asuran> even its set to autmatic and i restartet router
[13:34] <Father-1991> try with web restarting maybe its help
[13:35] <Asuran> -_- still same
[13:35] <Laki> anyone know of a simple bit of software where I can send curl/wget/get requests with variable (e.g my.ip/execute/2342342) to a machine and have it execute a script?
[13:35] <Laki> or something similar, just need to send a signal to a machine and have it run a file :)
[13:36] <pragmaticenigma> Asuran: How close is the computer to the WiFi Access point? If you are right on top of it, try moving to the other side of the room.
[13:36] <Asuran> pragmaticenigma: not far 2 rooms away small living area
[13:36] <Asuran> i doubt this could be the problem
[13:37] <mgedmin> Laki: any web server that supports CGI scripts
[13:37] <Asuran> the problem is still weeks before archlinux no problem before this windows etc. all ok ubuntu installed yesterday first all fine after hours this stuff but it stopped atleast
[13:37] <Asuran> now today: it wont stop
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> Asuran: Okay, I didn't think it was. But I've helped others with what sounds like a similar problem and their laptop was within two feet of the router... which is the equivalent of being at a concert and sitting in front of the speaker
[13:37] <Laki> mgedmin: righto, i thought of NGINX but wondered if there was anything even simpler, thanks! :)
[13:37] <Asuran> and it effects my bandwith my speed is varying from 300kb to 700kb
[13:38] <Asuran> tried download with wget some iso
[13:38] <Asuran> mirror seems fine i try other to be sure
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> rebooting the router/modem has not help I assume, Asuran ?
[13:38] <nicolas_> 44444444444444444444444444
[13:38] <nicolas_> ffiijvnvcuidfh
[13:38] <nicolas_> jdk+xkl
[13:39] <nicolas_> kfjvoi
[13:39] <nicolas_> dpofkpok
[13:39] <Asuran> pragmaticenigma: nope not a bit it looks like something is sending from here
[13:39] <leftyfb> nicolas_: can we help you with something?
[13:39] <sanjibukai> Laki nginx cannot handle executing script imho
[13:39] <Asuran> but nothing what tcpdump can show
[13:39] <Asuran> but idk if its sending or receiving tbh
[13:39] <Asuran> because i cant determine what it actually is
[13:39] <Laki> sanjibukai: it can with fcgiwrap, but what else would you recommend? :)
[13:40] <nicolas_> ăæbvvbvç
[13:40] <sanjibukai> You should have a scripting server (behind nginx if you want)..
[13:40] <nicolas_> witf
[13:40] <sanjibukai> Laki, Ah ok.. I haven't heard of this..
[13:40] <sanjibukai> In ruby or python..
[13:40] <nicolas_> nicolas
[13:40] <Laki> sanjibukai: yea, I could use flask, but it's literally a 1 off extremely simple  /execute/ID  > run script with that ID one off type of thing
[13:40] <sanjibukai> You can do that easily
[13:41] <nicolas_> wat
[13:41] <leftyfb> nicolas_: this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[13:41] <Laki> sanjibukai: I thought it's so simple that flask would be overkill / more overhead, fcgiwrap and nginx should be pleantyful :D
[13:41] <nicolas_> laki'
[13:41] <sanjibukai> Laki, Yep, I see.. even flask could be overkill, indeed..
[13:41] <sanjibukai> :)
[13:41] <nicolas_> yep
[13:41] <leftyfb> !sp | nicolas_
[13:41] <leftyfb> !es | nicolas_
[13:41] <nicolas_> sp
[13:42] <nicolas_> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[13:42] <mgedmin> Laki: I personally like Apache (because I never took the time to learn nginx ;).  ScriptAlias /foo /usr/local/bin/mycgiscript.py
[13:42] <Asuran> mgedmin: what shall i do to finally see what is being transfered received
[13:42] <nicolas_> gfffffffffffffffffffffffzcxxcccccccccccc
[13:43] <leftyfb> nicolas_: Este es un canal de soporte para #ubuntu. Solo el inglés se habla aquí. Para español, vaya a # es-ubuntu.
[13:43] <nicolas_>   diemante
[13:43] <pragmaticenigma> Laki: You could launch Python's built in simple HTTP server
[13:43] <mgedmin> Asuran: I don't know -- if tcpdump won't show it, maybe it's not your traffic but some other wifi client hogging the bandwidth?
[13:43] <mgedmin> especially on 2.4 Ghz where most channels overlap slightly
[13:43] <pragmaticenigma> Laki: From there, you can have Python execute any program on the system. Mind you this should only be done on an internal network you have control over
[13:43] <Asuran> im now the only client in the network
[13:44] <Asuran> that wouldnt affect my diod blinking
[13:44] <nicolas_> puseno
[13:44] <Asuran> is doesnt work that way
[13:44] <Laki> pragmaticenigma: yeah, could do :) I'd have to setup all the init/boot bits so it launches on boot but ehh, nginx and fcgi should cut it ,thanks for the suggestion though :)
[13:45] <Asuran> and the reason i know something must be transfered is simple: bandwith varies instead of being stable
[13:45] <Asuran> tried download freebsd iso and ubuntu
[13:45] <Asuran> on both varying of bandwith
[13:45] <mgedmin> have you tried wavemon?
[13:45] <mgedmin> it shows signal/noise levels and things like tx/rx rates
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> Asuran: Varying bandwidth isn't a good indicator, you're downloading across the open Internet which has millions of requests happening. The server end could also be experiencing varying levels of load
[13:46] <Asuran> mgedmin: using it now it seems it get some RX
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> Asuran: A proper test would be to have something local on your network that you can transfer a large file to and from
[13:46] <Asuran> man i guess we found it finally mgedmin it seems much RX can i monitor this somehow? withmaking mp4 vid
[13:47] <Asuran> and same amount of TX?
[13:47] <simon__> Hello
[13:47] <Asuran> i get around 100 packets a min if i count it right
[13:47] <Asuran> much retries
[13:47] <Asuran> hmm how can i paste this
[13:48] <simon__> I can't use D-Link DWM Wireless USB modem in 18.04
[13:48] <simon__> who can use?
[13:48] <simon__> hi any one
[13:48] <Southern_Gentlem> simon__,  chill
[13:49] <Asuran> incredibly 260mb+ transferred
[13:49] <Asuran> but i didnt used that much
[13:49] <Asuran> mgedmin: so is there something like tcpdump for this?
[13:49] <leftyfb> Asuran: tcpdump will show you ALL traffic to and from your machine you're running it on
[13:50] <leftyfb> Asuran: where are you reading the bandwidth usage?
[13:51] <simon__> Southern_Gentlem: ?
[13:51] <Asuran> leftyfb: nope wavemon proves me other
[13:51] <Asuran> something is going on on my wifi card
[13:51] <Asuran> and i would like to find out if bug or atk
[13:51] <mgedmin> also hey, how come wavemon shows me different RX/TX stats than ifconfig?
[13:52] <Asuran> idk tell me how i can paste wavemon
[13:52] <leftyfb> Asuran: Asuran wavemon only shows wireless signals/traffic. That's not necessarily bandwidth to/from the internet
[13:52] <mgedmin> (ifconfig shows ~6/7 gigabytes, wavemon shows ~40 megabytes)
[13:52] <Asuran> when i try select it jumps off due curser updating stuff
[13:52] <blackflow> tcpdump can use various filters
[13:52] <Asuran> leftyfb: yes thats true i guess but it still seems to affect my con
[13:52] <mgedmin> Asuran: hit Ctrl+S to freeze all terminal updates (and later Ctrl+Q to unfreeze)
[13:52] <blackflow> eg, you can limit by port and src/dest IPs
[13:53] <leftyfb> Asuran: Are you concerned about wireless issues or bandwidth to/from your ISP?
[13:53] <mgedmin> I'm assuming ifconfig counts IP packets while wavemon shows 802.11n frames?
[13:53] <Asuran> im concerned about i thought ubuntu is spying me but now i wont believe it until i got any prove
[13:53] <Asuran> to me it seems its either a bugged misconf due my hardware
[13:53] <Asuran> or something "attacks" my wifi card
[13:54] <Asuran> i would to like what it is because if my router is broken i need to know i guess
[13:54] <leftyfb> Asuran: ubuntu is not spying on you
[13:54] <leftyfb> Asuran: turn your pc off. Use a mobile device to login to your modem/router to see traffic/usage
[13:55] <Asuran> https://pastebin.com/GKrd3hXb
[13:55] <Asuran> got only android phone else no other pc currently
[13:55] <Asuran> and smart tv
[13:55] <Asuran> but thats not mine
[13:55] <leftyfb> Asuran: good. Turn off your pc. Use your phone to login to the modem/router web interface and look at traffic
[13:56] <Asuran> eh and how? i guess i need any app for this?
[13:56] <leftyfb> no, just a web browser
[13:58] <Asuran> https://pastebin.com/UGZ3CEda
[13:58] <Asuran> mgedmin: so what now when its not ubuntu or service of it
[13:59] <Asuran> can you recommend me anything else i can try out
[13:59] <Asuran> or i continue with leftyfb
[13:59] <mgedmin> I'm all out of ideas
[13:59] <Asuran> thanks
[14:02] <Asuran> leftyfb: before i shutdown how can i see which driver is used for my card
[14:02] <Asuran> its rtl2800
[14:03] <mgedmin> hm, for me readlink /sys/class/net/wlp3s0/device/driver shows it's iwlwifi
[14:03] <mgedmin> I don't know if poking in /sys/ is the best way to see which driver is being used
[14:04] <leftyfb> Asuran: lspci -k
[14:05] <Asuran> leftyfb: ok thx but still how can i see on adrnoid current bandwith
[14:05] <Asuran> else i have to use dsl speed measurement website or like this
[14:05] <leftyfb> Asuran: login to your router/modem's web interface and use their tools
[14:05] <Asuran> lol there arent such tools there
[14:06] <leftyfb> there usually are
[14:06] <leftyfb> did you look?
[14:06] <Asuran> i only have some small log which shows dchpd stuff
[14:06] <Asuran> i know my router interface and i can asure you theres no speed measurement tool in there
[14:07] <leftyfb> not speed
[14:07] <leftyfb> traffic
[14:07] <Asuran> same
[14:07] <Gargravarr> hi gents, back with another Bionic issue. upgrading one of our workstations with a FirePro W2100 graphics card, it gets stuck at boot on 'switching to amdgpudrmfb from EFI VGA'. this is with the official AMD drivers installed. removing them hasn't helped. the machine boots perfectly fine on the previous 4.13 kernel, but doesn't seem to like the 4.15 kernel in Bionic. searching around, a lot of Gentoo
[14:07] <Gargravarr> people have hit this error and the solution has usually been a kernel upgrade, but the kernel i'm using is newer still
[14:07] <leftyfb> I can almost guarantee you your modem will show traffic usage in some form
[14:08] <Asuran> i can only see overall traffic on a channel
[14:08] <Asuran> but that includes other networks too
[14:08] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: My netgear router/modem was not able to display current bandwidth usage
[14:08] <leftyfb> Asuran: other networks?
[14:08] <Asuran> activity on wifi channel
[14:08] <Asuran> all i can see
[14:08] <leftyfb> Asuran: ok, turn off your pc and see if you still see wireless traffic
[14:09] <Asuran> lol i cant see it on my phone
[14:09] <leftyfb> why not?
[14:09] <Asuran> because idk how
[14:09] <leftyfb> the same way you did with the browser on your pc
[14:09] <Asuran> tcpdump.
[14:09] <leftyfb> no
[14:09] <leftyfb> nevermind
[14:10] <swein> Gargravarr: tru ukuu and install 4.16
[14:10] <Asuran> i dont see it on my pc i test it by using mirrors of isos and wget
[14:10] <swein> try*
[14:10] <leftyfb> Asuran: seriously, there's more than likely no issue here. You're being paranoid.
[14:10] <Asuran> leftyfb: you trying to kidding me? it didnt happened before on arch or win10
[14:10] <Asuran> same machine
[14:10] <Asuran> same card
[14:10] <Asuran> all working fine
[14:11] <Asuran> it didnt started even after unbuntu install
[14:11] <Asuran> only after few hours
[14:11] <leftyfb> Asuran: did you test with wired?
[14:11] <leftyfb> Asuran: did you test while booted to a live cd?
[14:11] <Asuran> leftyfb: nope and cant test it like this its desktop pc
[14:11] <Gargravarr> swein: ukuu? typo?
[14:11] <leftyfb> Asuran: desktop pc's usually have network cards in them
[14:11] <Asuran> leftyfb: what for? it worked yesterday somewhat fine
[14:11] <leftyfb> Asuran: it's called troubleshooting
[14:12] <Asuran> just today it started be permanently and i tried to figure out is it ubuntu or my personal problem
[14:12] <swein> Gargravarr:  it's utility to upgrade kernel for you
[14:12] <swein> ukuu
[14:12] <leftyfb> Asuran: personal
[14:13] <leftyfb> Asuran: ubuntu will not randomly suck down bandwidth
[14:13] <Asuran> leftyfb: how you know it not a service running amok?
[14:13] <Asuran> i dont even
[14:13] <leftyfb> Asuran: what services have you intalled?
[14:13] <leftyfb> installed*
[14:13] <Asuran> it could be as i asked a bug due my hardware if so i should maybe open a ticket
[14:13] <Asuran> so other can benefit from it
[14:15] <leftyfb> Asuran: ok, so you have very little data to provide and you're not willing to troubleshoot. What exactly are you looking for again?
[14:15] <Buanderie> hello
[14:15] <Gargravarr> swein: okay, i'm looking at it now, thanks
[14:16] <Asuran> leftyfb: why you try make me the problem?
[14:16] <Asuran> leftyfb: all tried to help me except you, why?
[14:17] <Asuran> and i dont expect free first class support ofc
[14:17] <Asuran> i just asked in a public ubuntu channel
[14:17] <leftyfb> Asuran: I'm trying to understand what support you're looking for exactly. I've given you multiple different troubleshooting tasks, none of which you are willing to try.
[14:17] <Asuran> yea sure it sounded like i should fuck off
[14:17] <Asuran> cuz you seem to think im paranoid
[14:17] <leftyfb> !ohmy | Asuran
[14:18] <Asuran> i feel like im being trolled
[14:18] <Asuran> but its ok i figure it out myself
[14:18] <Asuran> thanks for all help guys
[14:18] <cr1mson_king> Asuran, you're just not used to talk on IRC. He's not being offensive
[14:18] <cr1mson_king> They* sorry
[14:18] <Asuran> cr1mson_king: i use irc since 2000
[14:19] <Asuran> nexus irc -> quakenet etc.
[14:19] <Asuran> i guess i know the common language there inkl the one in the gaming scene
[14:19] <tgm4883> Asuran: since you figured it out, could you post the answer here so we can all benefit
[14:19] <Asuran> i didnt figured it out but due the help of 2 guys i know now where to search
[14:20] <tgm4883> oh ok, I misread
[14:20] <Asuran> still much work for someone like me with 0 clue
[14:20] <Asuran> but i will have todo it
[14:22] <Gargravarr> swein: it's not working properly, keeps throwing errors about trying to create a cache folder under / (some variable isn't resolving correctly!) and i can't find any options to set the cache elsewhere. it's only showing me installed kernels
[14:27] <plasmoduck> How do I stop my Bluetooth keyboard going into power save standbye / sleep mode? After a few minutes of inactivity it does to sleep / looses connection and then it takes like 10 seconds to register a key press when I try to wake it up. It's very annoying.
[14:28] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: Did you try? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327665
[14:28] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: first result on google for "ubuntu stop my Bluetooth keyboard going into power save"
[14:28] <plasmoduck> Yup, even reboot
[14:29]  * mgedmin makes a note to never buy another bluetooth keyboard
[14:29] <mgedmin> (the one I had didn't have problems with sleeping, but it would sometimes repppppppppppppppppppppppeat a key for no reason, especially fun when the key was <backspace>)
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> plasmoduck: you will probably need to consult the manual... often the windows drivers give you the option to reprogram the standby feature
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> but i haven't seen anything in the available linux tools
[14:31] <plasmoduck> Okay, I think I'll just have to buy the Apple wired usb model instead of this bluetooth model.
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> oh... the dreaded apple keyboard
[14:33] <swein> Gargravarr:  only help I know is to ocnifrmed you installed it correctly: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install ukuu
[14:33] <swein> confirm*
[14:33] <Gargravarr> seems to be hit and miss. one of the guys here is using an Apple bluetooth keyboard on Xenial with a generic USB bluetooth receiver
[14:33] <Gargravarr> swein: yep. only difference is that i'm running this X-forwarded from the host machine
[14:34] <swein> x2go users! they keep propogating
[14:34]  * mgedmin is very happy with his non-bluetooth wireless logitech k400, although it probably means all his neighbours could easily sniff his password
[14:34]  * Gargravarr is very happy with his USB Natural keyboard. try sniffing passwords now!
[14:36] <tomreyn> Gargravarr: i've only run into issues with ukuu, too. TJ (who is a regular here) has written http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh which works well for me (and is just a shell script).
[14:36] <Gargravarr> swein: interesting, the host machine appears to have crashed although SSH is still up. i'll try rebooting it and logging in locally then running ukuu
[14:37] <Gargravarr> tomreyn: i'll try that as well
[14:37] <tomreyn> Gargravarr: but if you just want to test mainline kernels once and not keep a system updated on the latest, you can just download and install once
[14:37] <tomreyn> !mainline
[14:42] <Dani-hp> Hi There, what are potential downsides of diskless ubuntu? or what are the advantages of maybe using a VDI setup like xendesktop or something like that?
[14:45] <BLZbubba> Dani-hp: i use qemu-kvm and virt-manager to run my ubuntu desktop, with an nvidia 1080
[14:45] <BLZbubba> works great
[14:46] <BLZbubba> and i added a 5200 with a second keyboard and mouse and my son also has a desktop on the same box
[14:46] <BLZbubba> you will definitely want to pin cpus, his minecraft instance killed my desktop performance until I did this
[14:46] <raub> Dani-hp: What do you mean by diskless? Running OS off RAM?
[14:52] <Gargravarr> thin client, i think he means?
[14:53] <Gargravarr> that's definitely what i'd udnerstand VDI to mean
[14:54] <Dani-hp> yeas
[14:54] <Dani-hp> thin client (diskless ubuntu with root on nfs) vs vdi
[14:54] <Dani-hp> vdi setup like xendesktop or vmware horizon
[14:55] <Gargravarr> Dani-hp: Ubuntu boots very well via PXE using an NFS root mount, but i have no experience with VDI setups
[14:55] <Gargravarr> i use PXE deployment here and keep a live-boot setup for recovering machines
[15:06] <Dani-hp> Hm okey, an what about performance? When we have like 30 clients using the same pxeboot/server
[15:09] <Dani-hp> And what about customisation? Is it easiy to add services like LDAP/AD login, mount home with pam for every user, special configs and so on to the "template" client-host?
[15:12] <Gargravarr> i do fat-client deployments using LDAP logins so that much is pretty feasible. you can also customise a live session and mount a user's home directly remotely from NFS or similar, so i imagine spinning a customised live image, then running it over PXE, would be quite possible
[15:12] <Gargravarr> so far i've run 3 PXE deployments in parallel and load on the PXE/NFS server was almost zero
[15:13] <Gargravarr> it's not quite an equivalent use case and others may know more
[15:16] <tomreyn> pxe booting will just have a small performance impact on the server since it only means tftp traffic once per boot really, where the client load initrd and kernel and loads them to ram, and then there i sno more traffic flow, unless you decide to serve network storage from the same server.
[15:17] <Gargravarr> note that PXE is entirely unencrypted and unathenticated
[15:17] <Gargravarr> although you can use signed kernel images with UEFI Secure Boot
[15:17] <tomreyn> ipxe can do it via https, but dns still needs to come from somewhere.
[15:18] <tomreyn> (also dhcp)
[15:18] <Gargravarr> tomreyn: the iPXE is also unsigned (especially if you do something like compile it yourself to point to an external HTTP server for the menu)
[15:18] <Gargravarr> *iPXE binary
[15:19] <Dani-hp> Hm okey, anyone tried with ubuntu18 yet?
[15:19] <Gargravarr> trying to get a Bionic PXE boot, yeah, but for me, the initramfs doesn't yet have the necessary NIC drivers for my machines
[15:19] <Gargravarr> hit the same problem with Xenial
[15:22] <Gargravarr> tomreyn: when installing a kernel from Mainline, are any of them signed? UEFI Secure Boot, and a few of the ones i'm looking at are explicitly '-unsigned-' for AMD64
[15:23] <tomreyn> Gargravarr: i suspect they're all unsigned, but have not checked.
[15:23] <Dani-hp> so this should work -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[15:24] <Gargravarr> Dani-hp: it'll definitely work :) whether it meets your needs or not...
[15:25] <Gargravarr> ah, i have this in my history: https://github.com/selivan/thinclient
[15:26] <Gargravarr> there's also UCK to build your own live image: https://sourceforge.net/projects/uck/
[15:29] <Dani-hp> Thanks for the links Gargravarr
[15:30] <Asuran> when i got packet problem shown in wavemon, how can i inspect into this deeper?
[15:31] <tomreyn> Gargravarr: looks like, exclusively based on filenames, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.16.3/ and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17-rc1/ may provide signed amd64 builds
[15:31] <Dani-hp> I just don't really understand what the advantage of a paid solution like XenDesktop is over Diskless Ubuntu...
[15:32] <Gargravarr> Dani-hp: generally, support when it goes wrong
[15:32] <Gargravarr> a la Red Hat
[15:32] <Dani-hp> yeah..
[15:34] <Gargravarr> tomreyn: thanks, i clicked randomly until i found one that didn't say 'unsigned' and worked up :)
[15:35] <Gargravarr> as it happens, i rebooted the machine and it's stuck on the purple Plymouth screen, but otherwise seems to be running - i'm SSH'd into it
[15:35] <Doc-Saintly> I'm trying to start a shell script with a cron job:* * * * * /usr/bin/sh $HOME/webapps/myapp/start.sh >> $HOME/webapps/myapp/cron.log
[15:36] <Gargravarr> Doc-Saintly: cron jobs have no environment variables
[15:36] <Doc-Saintly> when I paste the command text into the shell it works fine. but the cron does not seem to run. I added the cron.log and it just creates an empty file :\ where can I check what the issue is?
[15:36] <Gargravarr> you'll need to fully specify the path rather than $HOME
[15:36] <Doc-Saintly> Gargravarr: I read that - so doesn't specifying what shell to run fix that?
[15:36] <Doc-Saintly> aahh
[15:37] <Doc-Saintly> well, the how is it successful in creating the cron.log file under $home?
[15:37] <Gargravarr> er, good question, i wouldn't expect that to work
[15:39] <Doc-Saintly> well, giving the change a try anyway :) Thanks :D
[15:39] <Asuran> when i got packet problem shown in wavemon, how can i inspect into this deeper?
[15:40] <Doc-Saintly> Gargravarr: actually, another post mentioned that so I used a cron job to export the environment variables, and I can see that the HOME is set in the env of cron :\
[15:41] <Dani-hp> Gargravarr: one last question for today :-) Do 3rd party app's and peripherals work well when doing root on nfs/pxe?
[15:42] <Gargravarr> Dani-hp: it's a standard OS image once it's running. contains all standard kernel drivers (USB peripherals) and you can install apps into RAM
[15:42] <Gargravarr> obviously stuff that would need to reboot to work, won't
[15:43] <Dani-hp> well i install it on a template client and then copy it to the nfsroot
[15:43] <Gargravarr> yep
[15:43] <Gargravarr> hence UCK
[15:43] <Dani-hp> so they should be available at start
[15:43] <pavlos> Doc-Saintly: what does crontab -l show?
[15:43] <Gargravarr> also Doc-Saintly, is this your own crontab or root's?
[15:45] <Dani-hp> Well do i really need uck? can't i just like setup a vm, do all my stuff there like a normal ubuntu and then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto#Creating_your_NFS_installation ?
[15:45] <Dani-hp> or use a config mgmt to do all my stuff on the template host and then follow the instruction to copy it to the nfsroot
[15:45] <solsTiCe> hi. I don't see anymore dropbox notification of file upload in gnome shell, ubuntu 18.04. I was seeing thme previously. Some days ago, it was still working. I don't know what changed ?
[15:46] <Doc-Saintly> pavlos: * * * * * /usr/bin/sh /home/docsaintly/webapps/myapp/start.sh
[15:47] <ioria>  and /usr/bin/sh does exist ?
[15:48] <Gargravarr> Dani-hp: either or
[15:49] <Dani-hp> Gargravarr: or? :P
[15:50] <Gargravarr> as in, either approach should work
[15:50] <Dani-hp> ah alright
[15:50] <Dani-hp> think i'll give it a try next week
[15:50] <Dani-hp> thanks for your help and have a nice weekend
[15:51] <Doc-Saintly> ioria:  yep, when I copy /usr/... and run it as a command in ssh it starts up as expected
[15:53] <Asuran> i got now the problem for my wifi issue: its definitly ubuntu. i tried making mobile wifi hotspot with my phone, still same packet flooding going on at wifi
[15:54] <Asuran> and it makes even more sence when i get the same amount or Rx like Tx
[15:54] <Asuran> it seems something is looping
[15:54] <Doc-Saintly> must the file have #!/bin/bash at the beginning?
[15:56] <Gargravarr> Doc-Saintly: when invoked with the explicit interpretter, not strictly, but good practise is to put the shebang in place
[15:58] <Asuran> is there an dev chan on freenode?
[15:59] <pavlos> Doc-Saintly: take a look at /etc/cron.daily/ for some examples
[16:02] <Doc-Saintly> how many lines am I allowed to paste here?
[16:04] <pavlos> Doc-Saintly: pastebin your output
[16:04] <pavlos> Doc-Saintly: eg. cat this | pastebin, provide the link
[16:05] <pavlos> Doc-Saintly: correction: eg. cat this | pastebinit, provide the link
[16:06] <tomreyn> !paste | Doc-Saintly
[16:06] <Gargravarr> Asuran: yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[16:06] <tomreyn> i.e. pasting a single line is ok
[16:07] <Gargravarr> but 5 lines in quick succession will get you automatically muted :)
[16:07] <Gargravarr> .me has come close to this
[16:07] <Gargravarr> *that was supposed to be /me
[16:07]  * cr1mson_king testing
[16:10] <rustyraptor> What is up my guys. I'm having a weird package problem. I am tryna install libcuda1-390 on 18.04 but I get an error saying "libcuda1-390 : Depends: nvidia-compute-390 but it is not installable". However it appears the package does exist but under a different name of libnvidia-compute-390. Or is that a different package? Here is the link to it. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-compute-390 . I installed it through 
[16:10] <Doc-Saintly> https://pastebin.com/3yQ3iz7t <- it's prety baseic. but maybe the expo`rt is the issue?
[16:11] <rustyraptor> Is this something I should take to the forums?
[16:12] <nacc> rustyraptor: libcuda1-390 is not an ubuntu package
[16:12] <nacc> !info libcuda1-390 bionic
[16:12] <nacc> rustyraptor: so you need to talk to the PPA owner you are using
[16:13] <rustyraptor> Oh darn. I figured it was the PPA. Thanks for your time.
[16:21] <Gargravarr> swein: tomreyn: nope, 4.16.3 has the same result
[16:21] <CHAT4U> how to remove top bar to bottom in ver 18.04?
[16:23]  * tomreyn shrugs
[16:25] <Doc-Saintly> so anywhere I can check for cron errors or something?
[16:27] <Gargravarr> Doc-Saintly: cron sends mail to root if a job explicitly fails
[16:27] <tomreyn> syslog, or where your mail server sends the users' mail to
[16:28] <Prospero_1> I was thinking either dmesg or cat /var/log/syslog
[16:39] <DeathTickle> If I upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and I am using unity, will I still be able to use Unity after the upgrade or will it be switched to Gnome?
[16:45] <DeathTickle> did my message get sent ? am I connected ?
[16:46] <genii> DeathTickle: Yes, we see what you type.
[16:46] <DeathTickle> k, thx
[16:47] <Doc-Saintly> Gargravarr: it's on a shared web host :\
[16:48] <LevierMRQ> About installing 18.04 skipping grub problem, worked well.  First, i dont have any Windows or something like that.  So then i properly (i would believe) installed 18.04 on my new sda.  A fresh disk.
[16:48] <LevierMRQ> How boot from that now please?
[16:51] <LevierMRQ> i mean : may i just change flags on this disk (gparted) or somethen like that?
[16:51] <texla> Any info when 18.04 will be available in update manager ?
[16:52] <LevierMRQ> texla: i did read something that telling that it is not a good idea at the moment.
[16:55] <Doc-Saintly> well, I'll try again tomorrow. thanks guys
[17:09] <DeathTickle> I'll try my question again: If I upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and I am using Unity, will I still be able to use Unity after the upgrade or will it be switched to Gnome?
[17:10] <lapaga> DeathTickle, you can install ubuntu-unity-desktop
[17:11] <DeathTickle> lapaga: okay but if I just 'do-release-upgrade' will it remove that package ?
[17:12] <lapaga> DeathTickle, as far as I know you have to install it
[17:12] <u0_a182> ping
[17:12] <Mrclassic> ping
[17:12] <Mrclassic> man??
[17:13] <Mrclassic> ping
[17:13] <Mrclassic> hey
[17:14] <leftyfb> Mrclassic: this is a support channel for Ubuntu. What can we help you with?
[17:15] <DeathTickle> I guess I'll try it out lapaga
[17:15] <leftyfb> Mrclassic: please do not PM me
[17:16] <leftyfb> Mrclassic: do you need help with ubuntu?
[17:17] <leftyfb> didn't think so
[17:18] <s10gopal> unable to launch steam , http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCzPGCjdcY/
[17:22] <leftyfb> s10gopal: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5249  first result on google for your error
[17:23] <s10gopal> leftyfb, thx
[17:28] <kamoricks> Is ther ea way to enable copy-paste on tightvnc? Or should I be looking at a different vnc server?
[17:30] <SSMAdmin> Hi all.  Anyone else had their 18.04 apache server suddenly stopp working?  Error.log only says "Out of Memory", apache2ctl -S" complain about a missing or empty Letsencrypt certificate (which actually IS there and is NOT empty), and "sudo apache2 -X -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf" complain about  Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined.  I myself have not made any changes that should create these errors and apache stop
[17:30] <SSMAdmin> working.  So I wonder what could have happened, and how to fix it.  Any help?"
[17:32] <SSMAdmin> Sorry, I think the question is best asked in #ubuntu-server.  If anyone is able to help, probably best to answer in #ubuntu-server?
[17:47] <zetheroo> How to get the pidgin icon in the notification area in 18.04?
[17:50] <matjam> zetheroo: you tried installing gnome tweaks and enabling the notification extension there?
[17:50] <matjam> (I don't use pidgin, but I am guessing that might work)
[17:50] <matjam> "Ubuntu appindicators"
[17:50] <zetheroo>  matjam: yes, but maybe I need to re-login
[17:50] <TheWild> hello
[17:51] <matjam> zetheroo: you can try but it shoudl work immediately
[17:51] <matjam> beep boop
[17:51] <TheWild> I have installed i3wm. Will I get notified when battery goes low?
[17:52] <pavlos> SSMAdmin: reduce the servers started in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[17:55] <SSMAdmin> pavlos, how?
[17:56] <pavlos> SSMAdmin: you can edit that file (sudo) and change some of the parameters, then apache2 should not spawn servers and eat memory
[17:57] <SSMAdmin> I look in the file now, see no option to reduce number of servers?
[17:58] <TheWild> well, nevermind. I got notification via the blinking diode.
[17:58] <SSMAdmin> But, apache refuse to start, so I will not even work with one spawned server
[17:59] <subcool> why is installing video drivers always a hassle? -_- ; If anyone would mind helping me pelase. I put a post on Nvidia, but. you guys are smarter.  - Trying to install nvida 340.106.
[17:59] <pavlos> SSMAdmin: ps -aux | grep apache2 ... the 4th col is %mem ... you can reduce the number of clients, you can reduce the start servers in the conf file
[18:00] <pavlos> SSMAdmin: if apache does not start, you have other issues to solve
[18:00] <matjam> he's gone
[18:01] <amr> hello
[18:01] <matjam> zetheroo: did it work?
[18:01] <amr> yes
[18:01] <matjam> SSMAdmin: pavlos: lets take it to #ubuntu-server
[18:01] <pavlos> ok
[18:01] <matjam> we're both talking to him ha :-)
[18:02] <amr> wkwk
[18:02] <matjam> !ask | amr
[18:03] <zetheroo> matjam: rebooted and no
[18:03] <matjam> zetheroo: I think it might be a plugin for pidgin
[18:04] <matjam> zetheroo: try pidgin-plugin-pack
[18:04] <kamoricks> I'm looking for a VNC solution that allows copy-paste. I'm currently using tightvnc, and don't have it disabled, but it doesn't seem to work. ANy other suggestions for a solution?
[18:05] <zetheroo> matjam: Is that in the Pidgin > Tools > Plugins?
[18:06] <matjam> zetheroo: I mean, try doing "sudo apt install pidgin-plugin-pack" and restarting pidgin and seeing if there's an option to enable the pidgin notification area icon
[18:06] <matjam> zetheroo: a loooooong time ago I remember I had to do that
[18:06] <matjam> I'm looking myself lol
[18:07] <zetheroo> ok
[18:08] <riqdiiz> Hi all is there a package that I can use with my iPhone 5?
[18:09] <grillon> hi there
[18:09] <riqdiiz> I want to restore it to factory through iTunes.
[18:09] <grillon> I need to install wxPython2.8 on ubuntu to use ride
[18:10] <grillon> a robotframework graphical interface
[18:11] <matjam-pidgin> meep
[18:11] <zetheroo> not having any luck with this
[18:11] <grillon> I compiled it then make and install. it seems ok but the next step is python setup.py in wxPython dir and when I do that I got : wx/wx.h does not exist
[18:11] <matjam> zetheroo: yeah I'm looking
[18:12] <grillon> more precisely stdout : https://ptpb.pw/dkAB - stderr :https://ptpb.pw/pOPD
[18:12] <zetheroo> another thing is that compiz doesn't seem to work
[18:12] <grillon> what can I do to make my python program see wx.h?
[18:12] <matjam> zetheroo: oh, really don't recommend you use compiz. I was using it myself but it really causes lots of problems with some apps like steam other things that use electron.
[18:13] <zetheroo> matjam: I was using the Scale feature of compiz - anything like that in Gnome Shell?
[18:16] <matjam> zetheroo: nope, I was able to get compiz working with xfce ok, but not in gnome-shell
[18:17] <matjam> zetheroo: but, resizing windows in steam was super slow, as was resizing vscode and chrome windows, because compiz, I just deal with gnome-shell's inadequacies because I need to use those apps and it seems Valve doesn't test anything but what Ubuntu comes with stock.
[18:17] <matjam> zetheroo: ok so there is an appindicator plugin
[18:17] <matjam> zetheroo: https://github.com/philipl/pidgin-indicator
[18:18] <matjam> zetheroo: install the PPA thats at the bottom of that page - https://launchpad.net/~langdalepl/+archive/ubuntu/pidgin-indicator
[18:18] <matjam> zetheroo: then install pidgin-indicator and restart pidgin and you will find a new plugin in pidgin after you restart pidgin called "Ubuntu Indicator 1.0.1" and it will give you what you're looking for
[18:19] <zetheroo> matjam: Ok, thanks. Kinda odd that one has to go looking into github for something like that though ... huh
[18:25] <matjam> zetheroo: yeah it annoys me too mate, and it's been like this since like, 12.04
[18:25] <matjam> or 14.04
[18:26] <mdsm> why does my pc say that a file doesnt exist when it clearly does? i have mcrypt in my file manager.. when i try to open it it say it does not exist..
[18:26] <matjam> mdsm: file permissions perhaps
[18:28] <mdsm> matjam: still does not work, i have permssion to read and write all over the system
[18:29] <mdsm> matjam: everything else works to open in the same folder.. this one simply says it doesnt exist
[18:29] <matjam> mdsm: if you open the terminal and cd to the directory, what does ls -la mcrypt say
[18:30] <matjam> mdsm: and is it on a network share
[18:30] <mdsm> matjam: it is red in the console
[18:32] <matjam> mdsm: can you paste the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com  (please don't paste into the channel)
[18:32] <matjam> do an "ls -la" in the directory where the file is
[18:32] <matjam> and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:34] <_flood> i'm getting a "failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. check your internet connection or proxy settings" error on motd. i can get wget https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts with no problems at all, apt-get update/upgrade works fine without errors as well, anything else i should check since connectivity seems fine?
[18:34] <sylv255> oin #opencv
[18:34] <EriC^> _flood: do you have any proxy settings set?
[18:35] <_flood> EriC^: none, straight shot out
[18:36] <EriC^> _flood: what does 'run-parts /etc/update-motd.d' give?
[18:38] <_flood> EriC^: same error
[18:38] <matjam> _flood: that message is generated by a script that is run once every 24 hours
[18:38] <daytonb> Is there an iso I can download of packages I can use for installing software offline?
[18:38] <matjam> _flood: if you connection was down when it ran the script, you'll get that for a day
[18:39] <matjam> _flood: sudo /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade
[18:39] <EriC^> _flood: does echo $HTTP_PROXY give anything?
[18:39] <_flood> matjam: i get the same error when i run that command: "Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings
[18:39] <Bashing-om> !offline | daytonb
[18:40] <_flood> EriC^: returns nothing
[18:40] <EriC^> _flood: can you pastebin 'strace run-parts /etc/update-motd.d'
[18:40] <matjam> _flood: "sudo apt install pastebinit; sudo nmcli | pastebinit"
[18:41] <daytonb> The challenge I have is that I'm testing software compatibility. I don't have an ubuntu system online, or the ability to install virtual machines on my online work computers. All I've got at the moment is a ubuntu VM on an offline computer, an online Windows desktop and an online Centos7 server.
[18:42] <nacc> daytonb: what kind of software compatibility are you supposed to be testing with offline systems?
[18:43] <daytonb> I was hoping there might be something along the lines of Centos' Everything ISO. I'm sure with enough time I could mirror an Ubuntu repo and set it up on the offline network. That's what I did for the Fedora systems on that network last year.
[18:44] <spikebike> daytonb: running an ubuntu mirror is pretty easy, does it have to be completely offline?
[18:44] <_flood> EriC^: https://pastebin.com/Ji8STg0n
[18:45] <Shibe> guys what is apt-xapian-index
[18:45] <daytonb> nacc: Software that has to be developed offline. The compiled software can be installed/tested on online machines, but one of our users is having trouble running it on Ubuntu 18.04, and I don't have a system with that installed
[18:45] <Shibe> why does it suddenly launch every few hours and start eating 100% of my cpu?
[18:45] <matjam> EriC^: would probably need to do -f
[18:45] <spikebike> daytonb: I'm leaning towards a 10GB proxy (cache 10G of mirror access).  That way I don't have the pain of a full mirror, but can install 100s of clients without waiting on a remote server
[18:45] <daytonb> spikebie: It does.
[18:45] <matjam> EriC^: as the process forks
[18:46] <matjam> daytonb: there is an apt module for doing offline fetching of packages for a system
[18:46] <matjam> daytonb: apt-offline
[18:46] <daytonb> matjam: Of course if I had an Ubuntu system on the internet, I'd just doing my testing on that machine :)
[18:47] <matjam> daytonb: it allows you to run a command on your offline system, take some files to a machine with internet access and it will download packages and dependencies for you, which you can then take back to the offline system and use to install.
[18:47] <matjam> sorry, maybe I misunderstand your use case.
[18:47] <daytonb> matjam, so the online system doesn't need to also be running Ubuntu?
[18:48] <matjam> daytonb: well, it needs to be able to run apt-offline, so it probably needs to be at least debian.
[18:48] <matjam> daytonb: I don't know I've not used it
[18:49] <_flood> EriC^/matjam: if i run /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release it comes back with No new release found, so i believe it is getting out
[18:50] <EriC^> you mea using some external proxy or something?
[18:50] <EriC^> *mean
[18:50] <daytonb> matjam: makes sense. Yeah. To make it clearer, my usecase is this. Goal test our software on Ubuntu 18.04. Online systems: Windows10, Centos7, no virtualization software. Offline systems: Centos6, Centos7, Fedora 25, gnome-boxes for virtualization.
[18:50] <_flood> EriC^: no, it is a straight connection out to internet, no proxies, etc.
[18:51] <_flood> plus apt-getupdate/upgrade with no problems, also installing new software with apt-get install is no problem, so connectivity is working
[18:51] <EriC^> _flood: i think it's as matjam said, it's using the last run's output, try again tomorrow and it should be working
[18:51] <_flood> thanks! i will, i appreciate both of your help :)
[18:51] <EriC^> _flood: try "touch"ing the /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available file
[18:52] <EriC^> for an older than 1 day date, so it tries to fetch again
[18:52] <matjam> EriC^: I think he can just remove it
[18:52] <matjam> looking at /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd
[18:52] <_flood> will copy it out and rerun
[18:53] <EriC^> *move
[18:53] <_flood> that worked ;) thank you both!!!
[18:53] <matjam> yay
[18:54] <_flood> it was driving me nuts ;)
[18:54] <matjam> i can imagine
[18:54] <_flood> i'm building a new template and i hate seeing any errors, following CIS benchmarks and it is tedious, so when seeing that on a reboot i was pulling my hair out!
[18:54] <matjam> _flood: so the pointer to me was I googled your error message and got this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/919441/failed-to-connect-to-http-changelogs-ubuntu-com-meta-release
[18:55] <matjam> _flood: so after that its just a matter of like, following the breadcrumbs
[18:55] <_flood> yeah i saw that too, i was just trying to see how to kick it off again, but it looks like it was just reading that file
[18:55] <_flood> :)
[18:55] <_flood> cheers!!
[18:56] <matjam> daytonb: so if your application is packaged as a .dpkg, you should know what the dependenceis are and you should be able to grab all the dependencies and install them. But is there a reason why you're keeping the system offline and not allowing it to access the internet for apt repository access?
[18:56] <matjam> daytonb: at the very least you could enable the base repo and not updates or security, for testing
[18:59] <daytonb> matjam: the software is just packaged up in an (encrypted) tar.gz for distribution. The System I have virtualization software on is not allowed to be plugged in to the internet. I *might* be able to just try to download the packages I need. I just don't know how hard it would be for me to track down dependencies of dependencies.
[18:59] <daytonb> matjam: I need python2, numpy and matplotlib
[19:03] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, I get this message when trying to install CUDA. I am not sure how to address this. https://pastebin.com/Jf1v6cbH
[19:03] <[itchyjunk]> there is no way to stay in GUI and do this installation? :(
[19:04] <matjam> daytonb: so, if you have a list of high level dependencies you could do something like apt-get download $(apt-rdepends <package>|grep -v "^ ")
[19:05] <matjam> daytonb: that will get you a lot more than you actually need
[19:05] <matjam> daytonb: but hopefully that gives you a starting point
[19:06] <matjam> [itchyjunk]: any reason you're not using the ubuntu packages for cuda?
[19:06] <matjam> [itchyjunk]: also, can you like, pick a different nickname? I don't want to think about your junk.
[19:07] <[itchyjunk]> I tried apt-get'ing following the tensorflow turorial and had problems
[19:07] <ikonia> so fix the problem
[19:07] <ikonia> and use a solid instruction set
[19:07] <[itchyjunk]> `sudo apt-get install cuda-command-line-tools`
[19:07] <ikonia> rather than give up and do something different
[19:08] <[itchyjunk]> https://www.tensorflow.org/install/install_linux
[19:08] <[itchyjunk]> after ~3 hours or so, it was recommend in here to get cuda from nvidia website.
[19:08] <[itchyjunk]> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&target_distro=Ubuntu&target_version=1604&target_type=runfilelocal
[19:08] <matjam> [itchyjunk]: we can't help you with third party instructions that aren't using official packages here, you'd need to talk with people who are familiar with those unsupported packages.
[19:09] <ikonia> !cuda
[19:09] <ioria> [itchyjunk], what's the problem switching to console tty and lightdm/gdm stop ?
[19:10] <[itchyjunk]> ioria, is that what  i need to do to kill x? i'll try that then. thanks
[19:10] <ioria> [itchyjunk], yep
[19:14] <[itchyjunk]> ioria, neither lightdm nor gdm exists, it says.
[19:14] <ioria> [itchyjunk], cat /etc/issue
[19:15] <[itchyjunk]> https://pastebin.com/45y3Bs2u
[19:16] <ioria> [itchyjunk],  sudo service lightdm stop
[19:35] <[itchyjunk]> my GPU is not supported as of last update. figure it out. the cpu tensorflow seems to work kinda, thanks ioria
[19:35] <ioria> [itchyjunk],  ok
[19:43] <erle-> what is the current recomended way for desktop sharing?
[19:43] <erle-> (18.04 with gnome shell)
[19:44] <Two_Dogs> erle-: do you use chrome browser now?
[19:45] <ioria> erle-, vino should be installed by default
[19:45] <Butterfly^> is the password protected archive feature removed in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[19:45] <erle-> Two_Dogs, no, and that sounds like a very bad idea
[19:46] <erle-> ioria, it is, how do I run/configure it?
[19:46] <erle-> seaching for desktop sharing or vino does not result in anything
[19:46] <ioria> erle-, ps -A | grep vino
[19:47] <erle-> I found it in Gnome Settings
[19:47] <erle-> thanks
[19:47] <ioria> ok
[19:50] <Callek> Two_Dogs: fyi, I found my solution -- https://askubuntu.com/questions/403766/duplicate-icons-for-manually-created-gnome-launcher-items had the fix, btw
[19:52] <Butterfly^> is the password protected archive feature removed in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[19:53] <tgm4883> Butterfly^: what password protected archive feature?
[19:54] <Butterfly^> apparently, it works in 16.04, right tsglove ?
[19:54] <Butterfly^> Tsunami *
[19:54] <tsglove> yup yup works good
[19:54] <Tsunami> correct works in 16.04, compress an archive, the option is not there to password protect it in 18.04
[19:54] <Two_Dogs> Callek: good job
[19:54]  * Tsunami waves @ Two_Dogs
[19:54] <Butterfly^> makes me wonder big time, why remove options to secure data?
[19:54] <Two_Dogs> Tsunami: :)
[19:55] <Callek> Two_Dogs: thanks for the attempt at helping last night (brought it up incase you were curious or incase someone else comes by and mentions the same issue)
[19:58] <SubCool> Was there an answer? i had to reboot.
[20:04] <krytarik> !logs | SubCool
[20:06] <tomreyn> SubCool: yes, the answer was: "i think youshould reboot." just kidding, though, what was the question?
[20:08] <tomreyn> apparently it was: <subcool> why is installing video drivers always a hassle? -_- ; If anyone would mind helping me pelase. I put a post on Nvidia, but. you guys are smarter.  - Trying to install nvida 340.106.
[20:08] <tomreyn> (but i can't help you there)
[20:09] <Butterfly^> is the password protected archive feature removed in ubuntu 18.04 ? password protected archives work in 16.04
[20:11] <tomreyn> Butterfly^: you're probably referring to some graphical desktop which has a default file compression / archive management utility?
[20:11] <SubCool> im back.. i just got threw the history.
[20:13] <Butterfly^> tomreyn : just the default graphical archive manager
[20:14] <tomreyn> Butterfly^: which file type?
[20:15] <Butterfly^> sec tomreyn , i'm actually asking for a friend, Tsunami, who's here too
[20:15] <tomreyn> Butterfly^: the default archive manager on the default ubuntu desktop allows me to encrypt a zip archive: http://i.imgur.com/zlNvuMr.png
[20:15] <tomreyn> (just not tar.gz, the default, sinc ethis archive format doesn't support encryption)
[20:16] <Butterfly^> hmm
[20:16] <Butterfly^> Tsunami : does that answer the question?
[20:21] <Tsunami> no it doesnt answer my question, i dont have the option for password on any of the 3 file types when i try to compress
[20:21] <guideX> where do I get GLIBCXX_3.4.18
[20:23] <tomreyn> guideX: you don't. instead you use a PPA to install this software or you build it from source, or, worst case, you run the existing build (you are looking at now) in a VM.
[20:24] <guideX> a package manager to install it?
[20:24] <guideX> like apt right
[20:24] <tomreyn> Tsunami: the archive manager i'm looking at support like 10 or 15 formats out of the box. we must be looking at different things
[20:24] <guideX> so which apt command to I type to get it
[20:24] <guideX> or is there another
[20:25] <Tsunami> tomreyn: if you click on a folder, click on compress, there used to be option to add a password..it isnt now
[20:32] <Butterfly^> Tsunami : what if you open archive manager from the menu ?
[20:32] <Tsunami> i still dont have an option there.
[20:33] <Butterfly^> Tsunami : have you tried changing the archive filetype to .zip ?
[20:33] <Tsunami> yep
[20:33] <Butterfly^> very odd
[20:33] <Butterfly^> system fully updated ?
[20:36] <SubCool> How do i know which Nvidia driver to install from Apt- Repo?
[20:38] <Jordan_U> SubCool: You can let the Additional Drivers tool decide which drivers are supposed to work with your card, then just let it install them.
[20:41] <SubCool> Jordan_U its come up with anything.. just a small error, saying that its doing just that.
[20:42] <SubCool> "Colllecting information about ur system"
[20:42] <SubCool> i click ok.... and wait another day.
[20:46] <JMAMID> hi everybody
[20:46] <Jordan_U> SubCool: Please pastebin the output o
[20:46] <Jordan_U> SubCool: ... of "lspci".
[20:54] <mdsm> any myphpadmin/mysql God here? My root user has no privileges.. and i can't figure out how to grant them.. nothing on the web seems to work
[20:56] <SubCool> Jordan_U i got the nvidia working, now the rror is gone..
[20:58] <ThiagoCMC> Hey guys, I need some here with this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042452/file-etc-modprobe-d-dummy-conf-ignored-on-ubuntu-18-04
[20:58] <tomreyn> mdsm: no privileges on what?
[20:59] <tomreyn> mdsm: what exactly are you doing, what is the error message
[21:00] <tomreyn> mdsm: phpmyadmin can expose the full sql for changes you make, get that sql to properly descrive what yoiu're trying to do (but replace any sensitive information, indicating where you replaced it)
[21:02] <nacc> ThiagoCMC: i think it's possibly a bug in the dummy module. It doesn't seem to create any /sys/module/dummy/parameters directory when loaded
[21:02] <nacc> ThiagoCMC: i'd file a bug
[21:02] <mdsm> tomreyn: Hi again :) Everytime i try to install myphpadmin, my root gets no privileges. And all the instructions on the internet only covers how to do it when everything works perfectly.. which it isnt.. ever.
[21:03] <tomreyn> mdsm: you basically just repeated hwat you said previously, juts using different words. see my questions.
[21:03] <mdsm> tomreyn: i'm trying to login right now, and it says "can't connect to local through socket"
[21:04] <mdsm> which isnt in any of the guides..
[21:04] <tomreyn> mdsm: is mysqld running? ps auxw | grep mysql
[21:04] <mdsm> i get 1 hit
[21:04] <tomreyn> mdsm: probably because thats not the exact error message
[21:05] <tomreyn> mdsm: by "1 hit", you mean you get one line of output for "ps auxw | grep mysql"?
[21:05] <tomreyn> if so, does this line contain the word "grep"
[21:05] <mdsm> yes
[21:05] <mdsm> nope
[21:05] <mdsm> i think it is a process
[21:05] <mdsm> it has a process id at least
[21:06] <tomreyn> "service mysql status" should also confirm it running?
[21:06] <zetheroo> I cannot get openvpn routing to work in 18.04 nettwork-manager
[21:06] <zetheroo> was working in 16.04, but now you are forced to enter a gateway
[21:06] <mdsm> oh actually.. it is containing grep.. im blind
[21:07] <mdsm> now it is running...
[21:07] <tomreyn> mdsm: whats the output of the service comand above, run with sudo f needed.
[21:07] <tomreyn> okay no longer needed if you have it fixed,.
[21:08] <mdsm> yeah now it works to login.. now i need to figure out how to actually make the commands work to give the root privileges
[21:08] <mdsm> thanks for the help so far :)
[21:08] <tomreyn> mdsm: is phpmyadmin running on the same computer as the mysql server?
[21:09] <mdsm> yeah i can access it np, but root has no privileges.. tons of people have the same problem
[21:09] <mdsm> i managed to get it working after like 6 hours last time.. but i can't retrace my steps...
[21:10] <besi> hello how i download in AAC Best quality how is the command i use ubuntu 18.04
[21:10] <tomreyn> mdsm: how did you install mysqld? since by default root would have this privilege
[21:10] <tomreyn> ... on localhost, that is
[21:10] <Jordan_U> besi: How do you download what?
[21:11] <mdsm> yeah but it doesnt, and it didnt last time either.. i had do to some weird commands to grant it privileges afterwards
[21:11] <besi> hello how i download in the Youtubedl in AAC Best quality how is the command i use ubuntu 18.04
[21:11] <tomreyn> mdsm:  which ubuntu release is this?
[21:11] <mdsm> the latest i think
[21:11] <mdsm> i downloaded it from the site less than a week ago
[21:11] <mdsm> unless you mean the distro
[21:11] <tomreyn> "lsb_release -ds" returns what?
[21:11] <mdsm> which is xubuntu
[21:12] <mdsm> ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[21:12] <tomreyn> when you run this on a temrinal, does it ask for a password, and if so, do you know the password and can login? mysqladmin -u root -p status
[21:13] <mdsm> yes i can login
[21:14] <tomreyn> mdsm: so you can login as root to the mysql server. you should have any privileges needed to do anything.
[21:14] <mdsm> yes, but not in myphpadmin
[21:14] <zetheroo> what should the openvpn route gateway be?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> besi: youtube-dl uses the "best" audio format by default. If you explicitly want to specify aac even if youtube-dl thinks something else is better, use "youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format aac YOUTUBE_URL_HERE" .
[21:15] <mdsm> in myphpadmin the default (root) user is phpmyadmin
[21:15] <mdsm> and you need to grant it all the privileges
[21:16] <tomreyn> mdsm: so you must be authenticating differently there. it probably doesn't use a socket to connect to the mysql server but a tcp connection to the local 3306 port. mysql handles these authentications differently. a user which is allowed to authenticate via socket may not be allowed to authenticate via tcp port. you can inspec thte user database and where these users may connect from using: SELECT * from mysql.user
[21:17] <mdsm> oh we managed to get it to work! Thanks a lot!
[21:17] <mdsm> didnt take 6 hours this time.. you're a saint
[21:17] <tomreyn> mdsm: will you tell use what it was?
[21:17] <mdsm> after i got access to root from the terminal
[21:18] <tomreyn> ?
[21:18] <mdsm> i wrote like.. "grant all privileges on data.base.* to 'blabla'@'blabla';
[21:18] <mdsm> in the sql command
[21:18] <mdsm> and no i can login with full privileges on that account
[21:18] <mdsm> in phpmyadmin that is
[21:19] <tomreyn> well it's not really clear what you're doing or trying to do, as which user, on which database.
[21:19] <tomreyn> but we can just leave it there
[21:20] <mdsm> Quest: get phpmyadmin a root user with all privileges.
[21:21] <mdsm> Answer: Get help to login as root through the terminal, and login to the database and write
[21:21] <mdsm> "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON data.base.* TO 'username'@'localhost';
[21:22] <tomreyn> if you login as root user to phyhmyadmin, you should have been able to grant these permissions, there, too.
[21:22] <mdsm> no, because root is not loginable by default
[21:23] <mdsm> only the standard account. which is not allowed to query
[21:23] <mdsm> so you have to do it through the terminal, (at least as far as i've seen on the internet)
[21:23] <zetheroo> can someone help me with what route I should set for my vpn connection? I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and this is my routing table when connected to the vpn https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ksT3jVrbb8/
[21:23] <tomreyn> ok, that's somewhat new then, i guess, since it worked in the past.
[21:23] <mdsm> I read somewhere that they changed it for security reasons or something
[21:23] <mdsm> not sure how correct that is though
[21:24] <tomreyn> it would make sense
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[21:24] <besi> ???
[21:24] <mdsm> tomreyn: Thanks, if i could give out stars i'd give you all of them
[21:25] <ThiagoCMC> nacc, oh, I see... I'll fill a bug report then! Including what you said about the parameters subdir. Thanks!
[21:45] <ThiagoCMC> nacc, bug reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1774731
[21:53] <zetheroo> how do you add entries into /etc/resolv.conf? it says not to edit it directly.
[21:58] <_KaszpiR_> zetheroo see /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[21:58] <zetheroo> ok
[21:58] <_KaszpiR_> or dhclient prepend options
[21:59] <zetheroo>  _KaszpiR_:  that file or directory doesn't exist
[21:59] <_KaszpiR_> depends on distro version
[21:59] <kiokoman> zetheroo: or /etc/network/interfaces before 18.04 and /etc/netplan/*.yaml to configure Ubuntu 18.04 interfaces
[22:00] <zetheroo> it's 18.04
[22:00] <kiokoman> it's /etc/netplan/*.yaml then, but i don't have exp on that new stuff
[22:01] <zetheroo> There almost nothing in this file
[22:01] <kiokoman> eh that's why i'm still using  /etc/network/interfaces
[22:01] <kiokoman> until i find time to learn how it work
[22:02] <zetheroo> in 18.04?
[22:02] <zetheroo> I only have /etc/network/interfaces.d/ and it's empty
[22:03] <_KaszpiR_> I end up adding dnsmasq with my own custom rules
[22:03] <zetheroo> this is kinda sucking :/
[22:04] <nacc> zetheroo: a fresh install of 18.04? or upgrade?
[22:04] <zetheroo> fresh install
[22:04] <_KaszpiR_> yet netplan has ethernets->interface->nameservers
[22:04] <nacc> zetheroo: ok, so you just want to append some nameservers? waht _KaszpiR_ said
[22:05] <nacc> zetheroo: is this a server or desktop?
[22:05] <zetheroo> laptop - I need to add the dns-search for our internal domain (used when on the vpn)
[22:06] <_KaszpiR_> try accepting dns servers provided by the vpn client/server ?
[22:07] <zetheroo> well even the routing options for vpn changed so I can't set it up like I did in 16.04
[22:07] <zetheroo> but that's besides the point
[22:07] <zetheroo> where does one set dns-search now?
[22:07] <_KaszpiR_> but I'd REALLY would go with installing dnsmasq, adding custom config for vpn setup and then force netplan to use dnsmasq on localhost
[22:07] <zetheroo> 01-network-manager-all.yaml is almost empty
[22:08] <_KaszpiR_> I'm more towards old but tested solutions.....
[22:08] <nacc> zetheroo: if it's a desktop install, just use network manager?
[22:08] <zetheroo> nacc: where to set dns-search in NM?
[22:09] <nacc> zetheroo: in my case -- click on the gear next to the connection in settings, ipv4 -> uncheck automatic and insert?
[22:09] <zetheroo> where it says 'sepereate IP's ...' ?
[22:10] <nacc> zetheroo: yes, I think so -- that's where you'd put your manual DNS entries
[22:10] <zetheroo> does not accept domains
[22:10] <zetheroo> only IP's
[22:11] <zetheroo> dns-search is for domains
[22:11] <zetheroo> as in mycompany.local
[22:11] <nacc> zetheroo: oh you want to change the search domains only?
[22:12] <nacc> zetheroo: i think you want to look at systemd-resolve{,d}
[22:12] <nacc> zetheroo: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, and `systemd-resolve` etc
[22:21] <_KaszpiR_> oh the irony
[22:22] <_KaszpiR_> can't hold all that feels......... erm configs!
[22:22] <nacc> sorry, I misunderstood earlier
[22:22] <nacc> tbh, it's a clear separation, name resolution vs. name searching
[22:22] <_KaszpiR_> anyone mentioned nssswitch yet?
[22:23]  * HackerII who is purchasing friday nite pizza
[22:25] <SporkWitch> HackerII: you offering? :P
[22:56] <zapnea> by the slice, homeslice
[23:02]  * HackerII its on you.. Git-ER-Donnnnne !!
[23:57] <evilgeniusjamie> hi, I wonder if anyone is able to help out with some graphics driver issues for AMD?
[23:57] <spikebike> don't ask to ask, ask.
[23:58] <evilgeniusjamie> I appear to have the built-in open-source drivers installed, but when I check unity's unity_support_test -p
[23:58] <evilgeniusjamie> it says there's no support for Unity 3D
[23:59] <evilgeniusjamie> I tried using the proprietary drivers, using amdgpu_pro_install left me with a black screen, and amdgpu_install doesn't seem to have gotten me anywhere with the above