[01:13] Quick question? Is there a easy root .deb software to install that can root your device for you? Because OneClickRoot only has its desktop software for Mac and for Windows not Linux! Is there a Linux alternative to OneClickRoot? [01:14] You mean for Android? [01:14] Yes to root Android! [01:15] Sorry, we're not really an Android support channel. Maybe you'd have better luck at the XDA Developers forum? [01:16] you don't need to root android to install ubuntu on a device, either [01:17] Can the Ubuntu Touch installer from you guys can root devices or do you have to have your device rooted already? And how do you install or dual boot android and Ubuntu Touch without rooting? [01:17] no, rooting is not needed [01:17] no we do not support dual boot [01:18] the bootloader needs to be unlocked is all. once that's done, ubuntu can be installed (assuming there is a port for the device) [01:18] ubports-installer will flash the ubuntu recovery, and then flash the ubuntu system onto the device. all of android is replaced with it [01:19] Well there isn't a port for Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 if there is I haven't seen it and the Ubuntu Touch installer doesn't show under drop down menu!? [01:19] it isn't a supported device, no [01:19] someone would have to create a port for it first [01:25] Will you guys try to make a port for it? Since some work has already been downloaded for you by Ubuntu and Canonical teaming up with Samsung DEX system and docking stations for desktop arm versions of Ubuntu! Have any of you taken a look on it? [01:28] porting to new phones/tablets is not a trivial task. it could take many months to get a working port, once someone were to start working on a device. if it was trivial, we'd support a lot more devices already [01:31] What steps would need to be taken to create a trivial and universal installer? [01:31] Writing a native Linux driver for every piece of hardware in every Android phone [01:31] And then getting them all merged into the kernel [01:32] build a time machine, go back 10 years, and convince manufactueres to do everything in the open and in the same way [01:45] Well wasn't that the initial point of Android by Google I should say but then the manufacturers tweaked it to work with their devices and hardware specific and devices layout? But it's Google/Android who create the Android os and send it down to all the manufacturers that merge the new os to the one installed on every device [01:45] already? And doesn't that new manufacturers tweaked version back to Google for reports they get from all the app and device crash reports that get sent to all the apps and service developpers and send them back to manufactureres and they send it back to Google? Because some issues can be fixed by apps/service developpers yet not all the time someti [01:45] mes it's not an app/service developpers thing that needs fixing or maybe it's beyond them and they send it up the chain to manufacturer's to fix because only they can for that issues and same goes for manufacturers is they can't solve it they send it up to Google and they are able to fix it .... So maybe if you guys give Goolgle a call or email and [01:45] ask them to remember the reason for Android's reason for being and tell them to pass all the manufacturers tweaked OS's to you and make a universal installer? [01:46] Google can't legally do that, and change that large doesn't come from a call or e-mail [01:51] That's stupid! Why did Google loose sight of their mission statement that they are open sourced and part of the Linux family just so they can have more money from the manufacturers and become slaves basically? [02:02] @Myrdynsheppard, Open source does not always equal Linux. This is one of the most common misconceptions out there. … Open source means the source code is available free to download and use/change/build upon etc. … Also - to write a driver for every FPGA in every phone from every manufacturer on the planet [02:02] would mean we would never see a released electronic device. Period. Not ever. The task is too huge. And once a chip is released to the public in a device - it was obselete about six months before the release. … Now: yes Google did build Android on top of Linux. Android is considered an OS. … But in the classic computer science definition - it is a [02:02] n application because it does need a virtual machine to run on top of Linux (Java/JVM = hello nightmare!). … Pure Linux coming to mobile IS happening. However, much like Henry Ford and the model-T car, changing a global mindset takes time. … And this awesome community of self sacrificing girls and guy geeks will get it done. Just please be patient [02:02] as we feel your pain too .... … Did I cover everything guys and gals?? Please add more if need be.... [02:04] I think the purism will definitely help with changing things up [02:05] [Edit] I think the purism librem 5 will definitely help with changing things up [02:06] Looking forward to running ubuntu touch on one... alas, it will probably be a good 2 years or so [02:25] @mateosalta, You work fast btw [02:25] :D [02:25] And thanks! [02:26] :) [02:26] Which site is it that lists snaps along with scopes and web apps? [02:26] The open store isn't it im pretty sure? [02:26] uappexplorer had the snaps up too [02:27] Ah thanks [02:27] Why is there more than one store? [02:27] that one isn't really a store, just more of a diffrent way of displaying the other stores contents [02:28] Oh, so same store, just showing snaps too? [02:28] so it pulls its information form openstore, the snap store, and it had the old canonical store list [02:28] Can you actually run these snaps? [02:28] Like Love2D? [02:28] https://uappexplorer.com/snap/ubuntu/love2d [02:29] whops, did I accidently delete some messages [02:29] that is strange [02:30] ah i see, you can filter to arm... i bet that would run fine [02:30] many are desktop ubuntu, or server apps, some are for snappy core [02:31] @Aberts10, this one you should be able to run on the desktop [02:32] Ah, ok [02:33] Ha, Ubuntu mate welcome is a arm snap [02:33] I bet you could run that [02:33] :D [02:36] @mateosalta So you use convergence? [02:36] I'm seeing in some of your apps a picture of unity 8 in desktop form? [02:37] yeah, I have the nexus 4 to test on [02:37] Ah, cool [02:37] then one time installed it on a old laptop [02:37] Kinda wish they didn't drop unity 8 [02:37] I think it was kinda promising [02:37] And i love the UI theme [02:38] (minus the launcher for the desktop version of unity) [02:38] [Edit] (minus the launcher for the desktop version of unity 8) [03:41] I think them dropping it mightve been the best thing to some extent since they can put effort into other areas that are needed [04:20] Whats the status on the community work on unity 8? [04:22] How far has it come since it was dropped by Canonical? [04:47] Hi folks. Anyone tried installing Ubuntu touch on a Dell venue 8 pro tablet (which came preloaded with android)? Please point me to some resources if so [05:10] Fwd from dohbee: porting to new phones/tablets is not a trivial task. it could take many months to get a working port, once someone were to start working on a device. if it was trivial, we'd support a lot more devices already [05:10] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html [06:36] @fourloop2002, I am in the process of testing. Will let you know. [06:42] I'm on 16.04 with my Nexus 5 and although I have a working wifi connection the latest system update won't download. Anyone else with the same issue? Here's a screenshot showing where it stalls: [06:43] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Eo0N7IrZ.png [06:44] The funny thing is I can switch back and forth to the browser and browse the web normally at the same time. [06:49] Correction: it actually downloaded, as I can see now. It just didn't show progress while downloading. After completing to download it apparently closed the window. So when I checked for updates again, it now looks like this: [06:49] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/RPt2OMWV.png [07:14] So have you installed the latest update? [07:26] @fourloop2002, I'm doing it now. I just wanted to check if I could make calls with v.401 and it turned out that worked fine. However, MMS and cellular data did not work. [07:36] OK. So now I have r407 installed and it turns out I don't have any phone capabilities at all and although my home network can still be found under "previous connections", it doesn't detect any network SSIDs and doesn't connect. Where should I report this? Screen shots below. [07:37] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tRYksiuw.png [07:37] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/4ah1RN40.png [07:53] @nanu_c, Speaking of that, dont miss today´s Q&A, we got some talking about this also. But please don´t get hyped too much, it´s NOT a new device 😆 [07:57] I've noticed there hasn't been any system update on 16.04 devel for arale since May 23 until today. Sometimes updates are generated every day and sometimes there is a gap like this. Just curious, what influences this? No system changes in the meantime or something else? [08:01] yes no system changes means no new image promotion as there are no deltas 😊 [08:02] Thanks :), makes sense. [08:02] Also no system changes for a specific device doesn't mean others aren't getting an update [08:04] @DanChapman, Hmm but there should be daily images for devel 😆 [08:08] Built with Qt: AirServer Universal Mirroring Receiver … https://resources.qt.io/videos/built-with-qt-airserver-universal-mirroring-receiver?utm_campaign=Built%20with%20Qt%202018&utm_content=71986091&utm_medium=social&utm_source=googleplus [08:08] Interesting. I tried to reboot the device to see if it would change anything and here's what happended (r407 on hammerhead): [08:09] 1. I got the displaced screen again. Tried to take a screen shot, but the picture lies - it shows a normal screen. Pressing the power button twice (off - on) returns the screen picture to normal. [08:09] @Flohack, even if there is no changes? [08:10] 2. I now have a wifi connection. It connected to my home network, but still does not show the other SSIDs that are normally visible here. [08:11] 3. Still no phone. It doesn't just not connect, there's no phone option in the settings menu either, as the screen shot I posted earlier shows. [08:12] Oh updates for all xenial devices today! \o/ [08:12] That's what I've got so far. [08:13] @aribk you have r408 available today [08:15] Oh, forgot one thing: pressing the power button and selecting reboot did not work the way it should. I waited 5 min. and the device didn't reboot (black screen the whole time). I finally had to long-press the power button, apparently to switch the device completely off, then press it again to switch on. [08:16] @Flohack, I had been hyped until I read the last sentence 😜🤣 [08:17] @DanChapman, Well well good question. I dont know the final stage of comparison, but the build jobs runs fully through all steps to make a nightly image for each (supported) device [08:18] @advocatux, Thanks! Didn't expect that so soon. Installing now. [08:18] And tbh no change for over 1 week is very unlikely for arale [08:18] Cool there is no daily job for arale 😆 [08:19] Ah the daily FP2 is now running. [08:19] (Photo, 189x208) https://irc.ubports.com/jllOkzM8.png [08:19] @Flohack, Free practice 2? [08:19] 😂 [08:20] no Fiarphone 2 😆 [08:20] [Edit] no Fairphone 2 😆 [08:20] I have to as Marius whats with Arale. Also I can see Mako has some issues, its red [08:21] LOL: atal: unable to access 'https://git.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/': Failed to connect to git.launchpad.net port 443: No route to host … error: Cannot fetch libhybris [08:21] [Edit] LOL: fatal: unable to access 'https://git.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/': Failed to connect to git.launchpad.net port 443: No route to host … error: Cannot fetch libhybris [08:21] Thanks for nothing Launchpad 😆 [08:23] Excepting FP2, bacon, and hammerhead, none other device got an update since May, 23, until today [08:25] Ah ok maybe this is manual then. I will check automation ;) [08:25] OK. So now with r408 installed on hammerhead my phone works again. I can make calls. My wifi is also back to normal. [08:25] 🎉 [08:26] (Voice, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/puU2znD0.oga [08:26] @aribk, Cool but my WiFi in my test device is broken, and I got no SIM card inside... So it will be interresting to update, need to use the also flakey installer 😆 [08:30] @aribk it doesn't sound [08:33] @Flohack, That's weird. ? [08:34] @advocatux, You were saying...? [08:34] @aribk, No its not. One of the last devel OTAs broke WiFi [08:34] @Flohack, But why does mine work, then? [08:35] @aribk, I mean that sound file you posted [08:39] @advocatux, Oh, I see it now. Didn't notice. No idea how that happened. 😂 [08:39] 😂 [08:43] @Aberts10, Like much else, that is on hold while all effort goes into making 16.04 stable [08:54] @aribk, Forget my comment. I was assuming you were on r408. [09:29] Hello guys. So I already installed 15.04/devel and I'm trying to check out 16.04. But whenever I am in recovery mode 'adb devices' lists my nexus 5 as unauthorized. when I'm in Ubuntu it shows up no problem. (Asked this question 12 hours ago. Trying again. Please tell me how long I need to wait before reposting a non answered [09:29] question) [09:31] M was added by: M [09:32] Welcome M !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [09:46] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/H9p5Y04F.png [09:46] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/Z0XnLol9.png [09:46] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/CVKIOsfq.png [09:46] @dohniks screenshots with libetine apps with gtk theming [09:49] oh thanks! [09:49] you don't happen to have a before screenshot? [09:50] I'd have to dig for old screenshots [09:56] did you also set the dpi? [10:00] No it was fine as it is. I have a HD tablet not fhd [10:02] I canny wait for this to be ready, try some good ol qt apps, in an environment that supports em nicely [10:15] Hi Im new to UT, is it possible to make systemwide fonts Bold? [10:30] @PhoenixLandPirate, Any specific qt app in mind? [10:30] @aribk, Happy ending! [10:31] Not specifically, I just know that qt apps don't look how they're suppose to on GNOME. [10:32] Name a small one, and I'll install it here [10:33] Dolphin file manager [10:38] @malditobastardo, 😄 Well, almost, at least. Still no cellular data connection / no MMS. 😕 [10:40] Also, I'm about to add a comment about the jerky scrolling action in the app view. Made a video. Will share log files, too. https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/615 [10:43] @PhoenixLandPirate, Pulls in half of KDE, won't launch 😂 [10:44] @YougoChats, Welp not as small as I thought theb [10:44] @YougoChats, [Edit] Welp not as small as I thought than [10:45] On the positive side, something else qt should have all deps taken care of now [10:46] That's true, I understand why lxqt doesn't use dolphin by default now. [10:56] @Flohack, I have a BQ E4.5/krillin. No daily builds for this, I gather? So installing Xenial and hunting for bugs on this device would be a waste of time? [10:59] @aribk I'm using krillin to test xenial. It has got an update today too (r86) [11:01] @advocatux, Thanks, then I'll try, too. [11:01] 👍 [11:04] BTW the scrolling momentum bug is still present in r86 [11:27] Tombyers9258 was added by: Tombyers9258 [12:17] where dose ubport save the data? [12:17] [Edit] where dose ubport-installer save the data? [12:17] i need to clean it [12:18] Is ubports.com up? ubports-installer reports the devices list is unavailable. [12:24] @Flohack, Today? - no news channel announcement yet? [12:25] yes today [12:25] 🤠👍 already looking forward 🤩 [12:25] Agree [12:43] @gostranger, .cache/ubports(images) [12:43] Not sure how to clean it though [13:00] Welcome @Tombyers9258 !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed [16:04] http://www.businessinsider.com/2-billion-startup-github-could-be-for-sale-microsoft-2018-5 [16:06] @Benedikt, If Microsoft buy GitHub I will delete my code and accounts off GitHub so fast!!! … Look how LinkedIn was ruined after the MS aquisition!! [16:07] @ubports_ot for off topic things [16:07] @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, +👍👍👍👍👍 [16:07] github is already a proprietary code hosting service. microsoft buying it wouldn't change that. [16:08] @dohbee, Sorry for that outburst... Won't happen again. … I didn't mean to violate the rules. [16:17] @Ismail_ibn_Thomas_Al_Amreeki, gitea.io [16:34] Oh wow.... Never knew sailfish OS was behind a paywall... 40$ for the OS and then you have to buy the device too? [16:34] I feel even more thankful for the ubports team now! [16:35] @Aberts10, Me too!! [16:35] 58 USD* my bad... even worse! [16:36] [Edit] Oh wow.... Never knew sailfish OS was behind a paywall... 58$ for the OS and then you have to buy the device too? [16:37] I guess it makes sense, but imo they should just allow you to pay what you want to get it [16:37] @Aberts10, Only for the officially supported image on the Xperia phone, right? [16:37] Otherwise there are community ports [16:37] Is there? [16:37] yes, just the sony phones I guess [16:38] i have it on my Nexus 5 ;) [16:38] Where can i get the community version? Their website is like navigating a maze [16:38] it's an official partnership with Sony [16:38] @Aberts10, XDA developers forums? [16:38] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:39] just look up for your specific device if there's one for it [16:39] Nexus 5 works [16:39] Ah here we go [16:39] Interesting. [16:40] yes, and I got it working multiboot with Android and UT ;) … NOTE: NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED LOL [16:40] oh I guess this is getting OT [16:40] Yeah. [16:40] I'll probably stick with UT though honestly [16:40]