[00:00] (I'm on 18.04 LTS) [00:02] evilgeniusjamie, did you install unity? [00:02] yes [00:02] just with apt install unity, not sure if I need to do anything more...? [00:03] its ubuntu-unity-desktop so I have no idea if install unity is the same thing [00:05] bizarrely I get "OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc." [00:06] but I'm not on a vbox [00:06] also "Not software rendered: no" is likely why I also get Unity 3D supported: no === DrWatson_ is now known as DrWatson === DrWatson_ is now known as DrWatson [00:26] What programming language, i could compile and run in most OS? i can compile and run c++ on all but it takes alot longer to do somethign with "windows" [00:27] c# on the other hand wont run on linux [00:30] python, perl, java, go, tons of options [00:30] oey [00:31] hai [00:31] oerheks, go is a compiled language ? [00:31] am from indonesia [00:31] netameta: yes [00:31] i thought python, go, perl all 3 are JIT [00:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Go [00:32] you from?? [00:32] MrRzl69, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (ideally in a single line) & be patient waiting for answers [00:32] yes [00:33] Hey guys, what's the difference between Automatic (DHCP) addresses only and manual in the network manager? [00:34] andrew09, DHCP means automatically get them from the router, manual means you force the settings unconditionally [00:34] get one ore choose one static [00:35] you probably want DHCP. if you want static IP then configure your router with DHCP reservations [00:35] DHCP reservation = make the router always give a specific IP to a specific machine === semeion is now known as mnemonic [00:37] Nice seems go can do what i wanted [00:38] I want to change the dns, it seems by your words that choosing one option or the other isn't concerned with dns because the current one is so slow [00:38] hi, i'm having some troubles with laptop power management. sometimes when it enters suspend it ends up just shutting off entirely. other times upon waking from suspend the screen remains off [00:42] andrew09, DNS control is done by the DNS server, which is often a router (esp. for homes), but can be a system service (bind etc) - NM & choosing static or dynamic via NM makes your first question sound like a client? (& not the server side?) do you mean client or server side? [00:43] guiverc, client [00:43] hello [00:45] hello [00:45] u0_a150_: hi [00:46] andrew09, the easiest way is clicking NM icon & edit connections (I'm using XFCE so my wording may not match your DEsktop), go to IPv4 (what my lan uses) & change the DNS servers (you can have more than one, use fastest first). You only need to select your preferred DNS servers (ie. work out fastest for you, your isp or other)... [00:48] andrew09, if it were my network, I'd ssh into my router & view the config & change it there (thus affecting devices using DHCP) and any devices using dhcp would reflect that change when they reconnected (or lease expired, and thus refreshed..) [00:49] hello [00:49] anyone people? [00:49] i from ocean [00:49] R27: are you a fish? [00:49] no [00:49] i human only [00:50] hello [00:50] in here dont people? [00:50] negative [00:50] I seems ubuntu 18.04 is no longer able to resolve local addresses provided by my LEDE/OpenWRT router [00:50] something like mymachine.lan [00:51] Hello [00:57] known bug apparently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1699660 [00:57] Launchpad bug 1699660 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolve breaks resolution of local network hostnames" [High,Confirmed] [00:57] since 17.04 no less === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [01:11] hello _ as soon as i login to ubuntu 10 it flips up side down !!?? [01:16] el oh el [01:24] Pencil2, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (2010.April release) had a life of 5 years, EOL was back in 2015. (sorry I can't help with upside down if a later release, but clarifying your version may help others..) [01:29] exit [01:50] any recommendations for a good program (web browser based) or even cml, to see traffic/network performance realtime through machine nics? [01:50] like a real realtime nmap [01:51] nethogs is cool [01:51] ill peek at it [01:53] iptraf is a bit more detailed [01:54] FaTaL_G, https://www.nagios.org/ [01:55] 1) thats more of an alarming tool [01:55] 2) stop using nagios [01:55] just, stop it [01:56] I do know nagios [01:56] hello _ as soon as i login to ubuntu 10 it flips up side down !!?? [01:57] consult your local isp [01:57] Pencil2: there is no "ubuntu 10". there is 10.04, is that what you mean? [01:57] lol matjam [01:59] Sorry Im typing on a screen that is upside down. [02:01] Ubuntu 18.04 [02:01] Going toboot again === saaB_ is now known as sanroot [02:11] I helped Pencil2 His thrid boot worked [02:12] so I am running ubuntu as a router... vs. pfsense.... I have multiple clients connecting both wired and wireless. Is there a good web based interface to show all connected clients, ip address, machine name, mac, etc. like we do with soho routers? [02:17] FaTaL_G: well, they integrate a lot of stuff, but under the hood it's things like dhcpd handing out the dhcp addresses, etc [02:17] FaTaL_G: I am not aware of any web UI for that stuff but I'm sure someone has done it [02:18] they who? pfsense? [02:18] FaTaL_G: but if you just want to set up some way to look at all traffic going through it via a web page, you can use ntopng [02:27] Hi, can someone tell me why I'm getting this when trying to restart php-fpm: Failed to restart php7.2-fpm.service: Unit php7.2-fpm.service is masked. === saaB_ is now known as sanroot [02:33] https://askubuntu.com/questions/710420/why-are-some-systemd-services-in-the-masked-state .. systemctl unmask php7.2-fpm.service and start it ? [02:33] or maybe the service is removed, that could also be a mask to dev/null [02:35] oerheks, thanks works now [02:35] * linux_user says - Uh, hey, I was like able to do an "apt-get install drupal7" on the 17.10 version of Ubuntu and now I like did a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04 and stuff, and when I do that command, it like fails in a nasty way. Its like Broom Hilda went off and got rid of it in the repos...and you know, Broom Hilda took pdftk with her too!! [02:36] * linux_user says I want to file a complaint! [02:41] backnforth, i can't find any drupal7 in any Ubuntu repo for any version; the drupal.org site tells you where to get it (& what is required), but its not from Ubuntu repo's [02:41] try 8.5 .. https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-drupal-on-ubuntu-18-04/ [02:42] oh...one sec...lemme go check...it was there before [02:42] yes, drupal 7 was in the repos, no fresh 8.x in the LTS [02:44] I like googlized the artful repos man, version 7 totally there in the flesh...in the bionic beaver (clearly named after someone's X-g/f) repos, it is conspicuously absent and stuff!! [02:45] backnforth - nah sorry, it was there for 17.10 (artful) - my search was wrong (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=artful&searchon=names&keywords=drupal7) [02:45] drupal7 is in universe - ie. the community has to put it in 18.04/bionic (motu devs etc) which maybe hasn't been completed yet... [02:46] It's one thing to say well Drupal7 is ancient and is what Dinosaurs install...but then its another to leave no Drupal8 there for the post-Dinosaur beings to install, you know? [02:47] * linux_user and then we need to ask Broom Hilda about pdftk...cause, that is like totally GONE! [02:47] * linux_user says my friend says it wasnt Broom Hilda, he suspects the Keebler Elves, but, either way, someone needs to put it back man...pdftk is needed. [02:50] 'universe' means its community supported - its not there because people in the community who use it haven't got in and helped make it available yet for bionic - don't winge about it, you could pull your sleves up & help :) [02:50] guiverc: NO! I CANT...I am wearing a tank top...NO CAN DO! [02:51] :) [02:51] matjam; are you up to speed on iptraf? when I run it it gives me lo as the only interface. lol.... I have many more [02:52] that is it...the next time I Broom Hilda or the Keebler Elves they are going to know what the phrase "head lopped off with a blunt object a slow rate of speed for added pain" really means!!! [02:52] time I=time I see [02:53] Those elves are going to get a good OSS kicking! [02:55] Uh, can we find out like what community member put Drupal7 in before so we can get a letter writing campaign going for 18.04?? [02:55] sure you can find out on launchpad with your magic wand [02:56] * linux_user sweet! I knew that Harry Potter wand was gonna come in handy! I KNEW IT!!! [02:57] whois lexAngeles [02:58] matjam; apparently it is a known bug, so iptraf is a wont fix. Have to use iptraf-ng [02:59] linux_user: Debian bug 884929 [02:59] Debian bug 884929 in ftp.debian.org "RM: drupal7 -- ROM; Old version; newer version not packagable for Debian" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/884929 [03:00] hy'.. [03:01] hello [03:02] my name is zein live INDONESIA [03:02] Zein26, this is Ubuntu support; if you have a Ubuntu Support question; please just ask it. ...... === Ricardus_ is now known as Ricardus [03:08] i'm ??? [03:10] Zein26, this is Ubuntu Support, if you have a Ubuntu issue you'd like with, please just ask it (single line please, and be patient as if someone knows the answer, they'll repsond when they can) [03:11] s/like with/like help with/\ [03:14] i'm sorry _- === coderphi_ is now known as coderphive [03:18] May I ask WhatsApp you guys (I want to learn about hackers) [03:20] !hacker [03:20] A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy [03:21] Zein26, this is Ubuntu Support; your question is general in my (unlearned) opinion, and I don't see the Ubuntu Support issue. === semeion is now known as mnemonic [03:40] matjam: apparentlynethogs will not work with my wlp2s0 wireless adapter... go figure === anonymous is now known as ralf === ralf is now known as Guest51086 [04:09] hello, my homefolder is empty after reboot [04:09] all data lost [04:10] i have 60gb hdd and filemanager shows 500mb free space [04:10] but i cant see all my files [04:10] have you `mount`ed something over it (thus it's not gone, just hidden/shadowed) ? [04:11] Guest51086, your non-unique name makes it hard to address you directly... [04:12] i am online from empty partition === tatertots is now known as RoscoePColtrane [04:12] Encrypted homedir ? [04:13] i dont know guiverc , filemanager shows free space 500mb from 60gb hdd [04:13] but there is new empty homegfolder [04:13] nothing encrypted [04:14] i was chatting with friends in irc chat and when i loggin new to system i cant login [04:15] always when i tyoe password it goes back to lognwindow [04:15] i would suggest something like `mount |grep home` and check you haven't accidently/unintentionally mounted something onto there, or check its mounted (as intended) ... [04:16] i am beginner guiverc [04:16] i only see new empty folders in home [04:17] are you logged in via gui? or text-terminal? [04:17] all my files are gone but i read that i have 500 mb free space [04:17] via gui [04:17] now [04:18] did the new empty homefolder overwrite my old files? === daniel is now known as Guest33925 [04:19] gparted shows that more then 50gb is used [04:19] 500mb/60gb implies to me you've mounted something over it.. what is the 'old' versus 'new'? have you recently upgraded your version? [04:19] someone speaks german here? [04:20] no i didnt ugrae [04:20] upgrade [04:20] !de [04:20] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [04:20] ok. i will sleep now and ask later in german room [04:21] thx at first for help === u0_a64 is now known as N30 === N30 is now known as Guest50120 === Guest50120 is now known as N30_Project [04:25] hai [04:25] are a man on this channel [04:25] please answer [04:25] and woman [04:25] o [04:25] 1620 people total in this channel [04:25] who you [04:26] if you need help, just ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they'll respond [04:26] don't just ask if anyone is available [04:26] N30_Project, this is a Ubuntu Support channel; whether or not they are male/female does not impact questions or help. [04:26] are you can make the some programm [04:26] ? [04:27] guiverc, didn't you know that claiming to be female multiplies your help by 5? see stackoverflow, lol [04:27] guiverc i am is male [04:28] :) @ doug16k [04:28] where more members? [04:28] "I'm a female. How to I update Ubuntu?" "20 reponses in 5 seconds..." [04:29] Ok, back to being a support channel. [04:30] yes [04:30] strive. where you state? [04:30] State of Trance. [04:30] oh [04:31] We don't do a.s.l here. [04:31] N30_Project: What's your Ubuntu related issue? [04:31] nothing [04:33] why does my system often pause for 1m 30s "waiting for session 4 " on reboot? [04:33] stopping session 4 [04:34] what do I look at to see what is causing that? [04:35] !details | doug16k please [04:35] doug16k please: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [04:36] doug16k, i don't know, search online provided this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/273876/a-stop-job-is-running-for-session-c2-of-user which too was 90 secs [04:36] I would download the Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop ISO, boot it and inspect the whole hard drive in read-only... [04:36] doug16k: ubuntu version? system up to date? [04:36] yes up to date. 18.04 === u0_a64 is now known as N30_Project [04:37] i comeback :v [04:38] ok, I guess I need the exact message. going to reboot now and see if it happens [04:39] hai [04:39] i will ask. [04:39] of course when I want it to happen it doesn't. :D [04:40] in this irssi what we can share file? [04:41] why the more members just read :v. please respond [04:42] /msg/DarkAceZ [04:42] 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 [04:42] welcome [04:42] thank you sir [04:43] what role do you play in this channel, if I may so inquire [04:43] darkace you can help me? [04:43] probably not [04:43] guys, please keep it ontopic [04:43] only ubuntu support questions here [04:43] k lol [04:43] what ubuntu can transfer the file [04:44] are there language-specific ubuntu support channels? maybe N30_Project should be redirected [04:45] i am sorry. [04:45] N30_Project: not a problem, you'll just have to be more specific [04:45] we're not sure what you're asking [04:46] doug16k, the link i provided had same 90 sec delay, no fix, but it told you how to reduce timeout delay - it may be useful (when you have message; you could compare with that provided to ensure its appropriate...) [04:46] i am just training this [05:01] ls [05:11] Hi all. I'm having issues with a cron job not starting my app. When I run the same command in the shell it works fine, I've checked the environment variables and it's OK. The only thing I can think is that the shell script has an EXPORT call in it. [05:11] Anyone have ideas of where to check about why the cron is failing? [05:23] ehai [05:24] Doc-Saintly: how does the crontab look like? how does the script look like? [05:27] hi [05:27] who here uses Evolution [05:27] or maintains it [05:28] it has a bug - when you enter and add passwd to a key ring sometimes it keeps asking for it again [05:28] and wont connect [05:30] Guest42555, evolution is community supported; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+filebug to file a bug on it [05:30] cool [05:37] the script is: https://pastebin.com/dv1Stk7h [05:38] the crontab is: * * * * * /usr/bin/sh /home/docsaintly/webapps/myapp/start.sh [05:49] Hi. Is ubuntu fine with newer standard laptops? I'm looking to buy something in the <300 dollar range. W10 preinstalled seems unavoidable though >_< [05:57] Newer to Linux. I just installed 18.04 about a week ago. Once a day though my whole laptop will freeze up and I have to restart. Is there a log file I can lookup to see what caused the last freeze? I tried looking through dmesg, the only error I saw was [ 39.133423] usb 2-4: string descriptor 0 read error: -22 [05:57] I also checked the md5 checksum and it is correct [05:59] 700gb free on the hdd, CPU's are running between 5-12%, 45% free RAM. I'm only really using sublime text and firefox/chrome. [06:01] arne_: it's all down to the specific hardware and how much you expect it to work out of the box [06:01] arne_: Not sure, and you will pretty much have to try it by yourself. Just keep in mind not everything works perfectly when you install Linux distros on laptops, but for the most part it's fine. [06:01] arne_: I think dell sells some with linux option. but may not be in your price mark. many net books are under 300 and proably support linux. === Guest42555 is now known as hehehe === shann_ is now known as shannara [06:08] why is my dmesg flooding with this: https://gist.github.com/doug65536/191690d05bb1863983afab2981e62536 [06:09] it never happened before 18.04 [06:09] hello, i've stopped apache2 but it still hanging in process how to shut it down properly? [06:10] it is still hanging in processes [06:11] it's a ryzen 2700X with B350 chipset === bob is now known as Guest16904 === squaresandcubes_ is now known as squaresandcubes [06:47] Well I figured out what was causing my computer to keep waking up ... just had to change the 'suspend mode' in the bios from the default S3 setting to S1 ... mouse doesn't light up anymore now either which is good. [06:49] great find Ubu-1604 [06:52] yo [06:57] did you try a sincrere apology? [06:58] a real one. like, a pretend medal is worse than no medal at all === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [06:58] does that even compute with you war criminals? [06:59] 91212 === mouses is now known as businesscat [07:01] XXCoder o/ [07:16] Hello I have the program SoundConverter installed now I want to convert my music to AAC but that is not in the program because there are alternatives ?? [07:29] I have a simple question ... how do I install software that I got from a .bz2 archive file? ... It's the lastest ver of filezilla .. that 'ubuntu software' icon usually displays OLDER versions of software, so I downloaded the filezilla 3.33 (x86.bz2 file) .. but I don't know how to get it installed. === shann_ is now known as shannara [07:35] Ubu-1604, expand it, and there should be a README or INSTALL text file with instructions (otherwise follow instructions where you found it). [07:37] Ubu-1604: 'bunzip2 ', but what's wrong with the version in the repos? [07:44] ducasse: well I am VERY new to the linux world so ya my install skills are pretty limited .. the .bz2 file has only 2 dirs ... BIN and SHARE ... I extracted both but can't seem to run/execute the 13Meg filezilla program from the BIN dir ... a dialog box comes up asking me which 'Open With' application? [07:46] ducasse: the 'repos' version? ... as in repository? .. you mean the 'Ubuntu Software' icon/program? .. it always shows older versions to install .. filezilla for example shows to be version 3.15.0.2 ... but the current one is 3.33 directly from the filezilla site [07:47] Ubu-1604: yes,but why do you need the newer version? [07:47] !latest [07:47] Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [07:50] oh ... well usually bug fixes and improved/new gui features .. better question does someone update that repos software versions of INSTALL programs? .. why is it showing version 3.15? ... that could be like 5 years old or something [07:50] probably not that old, but you get what i mean [07:51] Ubu-1604, bug fixes are backported to supported Ubuntu versions (if you are up-to-date you're okay) [07:52] yes I check that upgrade everyday now ... works really good [07:52] 3.15.0.2 is the supported Xenial version (16.04 LTS) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=filezilla&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all [07:53] Ubu-1604: new package versions come in new ubuntu releases, so 18.10 will have newer packages than 18.04 etc [07:53] guiverc: yes i SEE that one ... I can simply click INSTALL and it will install .. HOW do I get the lastest version 3.33 that filezilla has for linux though? [07:54] ducasse: ohhhh so it's because of the version of ubuntu i'm running? ... 16.04 [07:55] 16.04is already two years old, so won't have the latest software. but you might not actually NEED newer versions... [07:55] that's kinda lame if that's the reason though ... unless I can install that older version and somehow it will upgrade itself .. I'll just install the repos version then .. installing sofwtare is REALLY easy though that repos thing :))) [07:55] Ubu-1604, for stability you should stick with supported versions unless necessary. if you grab the latest, it won't be updated automatically, & you could have clashes and unusual bugs ... it's a lot of work & usually not necessary (stability beats latest version in my opinion; as fixes ARE backported even if new features aren't) [07:56] ducasse: I just started using this ubuntu seriously in the past 2 weeks .. it came on this computer I bought and i am VERY impressed how well the web browser works .. and that Libre Office suite. [07:57] Ubu-1604: good that you're happy :) [07:57] I normally just do DOS and windowz ... I am goinhg to try installing that ubuntu server this weekend on a couple of rack mount machines I have here .. I want to get a ftp server running and was going to try 18.10, but ya currently I just have this one computer running 16.04 === Have-Quick_ is now known as Have-Quick [07:59] I was wanting to FTP to the ubuntu web/ftp site to see if I can manually download ubuntu server software .. the DOWNLOAD button on the main www.ubuntu download page is for AMD64 chips only ?? [07:59] Ubu-1604, if you are learning; I'd suggest using a released versions, not a [in] development version [07:59] 18.10 = 2018.October release - due out October this year :) [08:00] Ubu-1604: if you are a new user you should probably stick to a finished release, as guiverc says [08:02] well I didn't know that the repos ONLY shows verions that were for a paticular version of ubuntu ... anyway, I just installed filezilla from the repos and it's running now ... its SO easy to install sftware on this ubuntu :) [08:02] anyway .. is there a FTP site I can connect too, so I can go find what files I need to download to get a ubuntu server running? [08:04] Ubu-1604: you can get them via http from releases.ubuntu.com, nobody uses ftp anymore [08:04] nevermind I'm in ... [08:05] I do :D .. I am a nobody then i guess :\ [08:08] I guess I'll have to ask in the server channel, but is this ver 18.x only for 64bit CPUs? .. the computers I want to try this on are older Xeon chips and pentium3 [08:08] all rackmount machines [08:11] Ubu-1604: v 18.x dropped support for 32-bit, iirc - but you can try the lubuntu 'alternate' image [08:11] Ubu-1604, x86 servers made last ~20 years should be x64_64 (esp. rack mount). older versions support 32bit, and upgrading (i believe), so you could install an older Ubuntu Server version.. [08:18] reading .. ya sorry my knowledge of what x86 chips really mean is limited ... I would rather run the newer versions, I'll download what I can and try installing it [08:22] sorry my ~20 years was incorrect; 2003 onwards were x86_64 generally.. [08:29] guiverc: ya I think it won't run on these P3 racks, but thats ok ... hay I do see a 'cosmic' directory on that FTP server .. perhaps thats the cosmic cuttle fish version (18.10)? [08:30] yeah cosmic means 18.10 to me... [08:30] that's 18.10, yes, but it's really not intended for regular users [08:31] I wanna ask: Will there be a 32bit version of ubuntu 18.04 LTS? [08:32] fresh : ya that's what I was wondering [08:32] I am sticking with 16.04. Waiting for future ubuntu versions to have the global menu [08:32] I also wonder will it have option to set a DSL connection... [08:33] jcdutton: I want one with a better launcher bar ... mines totally full of icons [08:35] Im anxious about the fact that i never saw a gnome shell based distro to have a dsl connection setup :( [08:36] anyone having issues with 18.04 radomly crashes and found a fix? [08:36] random crashes are not good ;) [08:36] tell me about it [08:36] mr_fresh__, dsl connection ? [08:40] So if I download the ISO image (of i386 version), I can just unpack it to a USB stick and I should be able to boot the install process? .. I have never installed Ubuntu before, that's what I'm trying todo this weekend. [08:41] hello. I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 and I'm having trouble configuring something. On the dock (please forgive if I'm naming things wrong) there's an icon which is a launcher for Firefox. I'd like to configure it to launch firefox with parameters. However right-clicking there doesn't give me any options. Can anyone help me achieve that? [08:42] Guest65840, accessories, main menu [08:42] and click the internet, then firefox, and then properties [08:43] Err, I guess the more universal answer would be click that thing with the 9 dots at the bottom left, and type "main menu" [08:43] and then follow my 2nd line of instructions [08:45] poutine, ok so clicking the 9-button square brings up a screen containing icons of the (most commonly used?) apps, with a "Search" bar at the top center. Top left there's Apps and Menu (if I click Menu, I get something similar to a traditional Start menu with apps categories and lists). If I navigate there to Firefox, right-clicking it actually launches it. I cannot see Properties anywhere. [08:46] Guest65840, I said "type main menu" [08:46] follow the instructions exactly [08:47] poutine, I tried that but thought I did something wrong. Clicked the 9-button thing and typed Main Menu (lower case as well). This typing goes directly into the search box (top center), and brings no results. [08:48] https://i.imgur.com/S8nGCQ8.png [08:48] that's what you're looking for, right Guest65840? [08:48] hmm, really [08:49] poutine, I'm very familiar with the screenshot you shared, this is something I'm used to on Linux Mint, but I can't find it here. To note that during installation I chose the "minimal" version, so maybe the package is missing? [08:49] g [08:50] Guest65840, Try installing "Main Menu" from the application center or whatever they call it [08:50] poutine, yes I only have Synaptic and "main menu" brings up a million unrelated packages :) [08:51] Guest65840, https://i.imgur.com/5Tk6WxW.png [08:51] blip [08:51] that's the one that provides that application for me [08:52] alacarte [08:52] sudo apt-get install alacarte [08:52] would work also [08:52] hi [08:53] ok installing. Sweet package name. [08:55] how do i set the location where print screen/screenshots are saved? [08:55] welp that's the last crash I can handle >.< [08:55] in bionic [08:57] poutine, this works, thank you. [08:57] :+1 === wesley is now known as Guest53436 [09:00] hi all, I upgraded xubuntu 16.04 to 17.10 (1 direct upgrade) - after reboot I cannot graphically log in. The login manager accepts my password, shows a black screen then returns to login. Logging into tty1 works fine, although I do get a flood of messages in the console saying "ata3 irq_stat 0x0000000040, connection status changed. SERROR: {DevExch}". My files/filesystem seem look fine. Are those 2 issues related? Somebody once suggested kernel [09:00] regression [09:00] i haven't had access to my linux desktop for a month now, would be great if you can help [09:00] blip99: I suggest logging in on console [09:01] adduser [09:01] spikebike, im in :) [09:01] password [09:01] then try a graphical login to the new account [09:01] blip99, If you boot into single user mode and check the syslog and kernlog, do you see anything amiss? [09:01] spikebike, no luck. same behavior [09:02] well I guess it doesn't need to be single user mode, just a non graphical mode [09:02] blip99: what is your GPU? [09:02] poutine, is that with systemd.unit=multi-user.target? Can you please say where I find those logs [09:03] spikebike, nvidia. but i removed all nvidia packages [09:03] blip99: I'd add in the nvidia ubuntu packages, then reboot [09:03] noveau is hit or miss [09:04] blip99, they're in /var/log [09:05] thanks.give me a few mins please to check logs [09:05] somebody here that manages to make a ps4 controller works as it should on ubuntu? [09:09] poutine, sorry for the dumb question, but is single user mode meant to be graphical? cos it ended up booting text-based, but then opening the graphical login manager [09:09] (appended 'single' to kernel boot params) [09:10] ill try init=/bin/bash [09:12] you don't really need single user mode if you can get to a console [09:12] either vty, ssh in, whatever [09:12] poutine, oh ok :) [09:14] question : how easy is it to upgrade from 16.x to 17.x ... will the icons I have made in the launch bar still be there? .. Like the software I have installed will still be on this computer? .. I have not done an upgrade before [09:14] Ubu-1604, scroll up lol [09:15] dont upgrade in big jumps even if its; supported, go one minor version to the next Ubu-1604 [09:15] my system has been broken for a month [09:16] blip99: Well I just tried changing the software updater to 'Any new version' and I guess I can upgrade this computer ... I think it would be better if I keep this 16.x box though so nevermind [09:16] somebody here that manages to make a ps4 controller works as it should on ubuntu? [09:17] Ubu-1604: if you are currently on 16.04 LTS and like your system to be very stable then i'd wait for the opportunity to directly upgrade to 18.04, which should become possible starting late july. [09:18] 16.04 LTS, that is. [09:18] and 18.04 LTS. [09:19] poutine, any hints for keywords to search logs for? there's so much output :) [09:20] tomreyn: hello again Tom ... yes I won't upgrade this computer .. it runs really fast with 16.04 .. actually it keeps upgrading all the time so it's 16.04.4 and firefox upgrades too and it's at 60.0.1 ... perhaps maybe i should just kepp using 16.x on any computer I install ubuntu on. [09:20] blip99: /var/log/syslog* /var/log/Xorg.* [09:21] tomreyn: I did figure out why the suspend mode was waking up this computer .. easy change in the BIOS did the trick. [09:21] tomreyn, no i meant what kinds of errors to watch out for, relating to my failed graphical logins [09:22] blip99, Well if you go to the end and go up from there, you should be able to see something, you could post it if you make sure you don't have any sensitive data in it [09:23] blip99: oh hahahah I read back ... you just upgraded from 16.x to 17.x? ... ya perhaps I shouldn't upgrade ;) [09:23] Ubu-1604: firefox it special, it gets rolling updates indeed. and the trailing 4 in 16.04.*4* indicates a generation for this 16.04 release. these numbers will automatically increase while you install security patches and bug fixes (which you should indeed do). [09:25] tomreyn: yes the rolling update for both firefox and Ubuntu itself I do daily ... it's nice that updates for 16.X happen almost daily .. seems to be almost every day :D [09:25] blip99: look for '(EE)' lines in Xorg.* and for any issues about graphics, video, vga, modesetting, acpi or any other errors in syslog. [09:28] Ubu-1604: you should definitely upgrade 16.04 before it is no longer supported. but you have a good while left. https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life [09:28] I think it's not until 2021 though [09:29] that's probably a typo by then .. it's actually until the year 20021 :) [09:29] right, but only for packages from "main" [09:30] 2021 is correct, [09:32] tomreyn: I have not tried the 'server' version from any ubuntu version .. I am wanting do setup a FTP server as I had discussed before ... can I run a ftp server (or even a web server) on the DESKTOP version of Ubuntu, I don't really understand the differences between the desktop and server versions. I am just wondering since I am going to have to use the i386 distros since 18.04/18.10 only are for the newer 64bit (AMD64) [09:32] chipset [09:33] and the GUI itself for 16.04 is Unity and not gnome ... that's a pretty big difference and to me the unity one seems extremly stable [09:36] spikebike, using nvidia instead of nouveau didnt help sadly [09:36] tomreyn, thanks. im on checking logs now in detail [09:37] blip99: weird. Did you try nvidia and new user? [09:37] Reboot after the nvidia install? [09:37] did you blacklist noveau? [09:38] the main differences between server & desktop are (1) different installer, (2) different packages installed by default including no desktop, office or gui software on server... Expect some config differences, but most packages will be the same, you could remove desktop & like software to make desktop = server, or visa versa... (expect server to have openssh-server [package] installed by default; desktop version only has [09:38] client installed etc) [09:39] spikebike, rebooted. lsmod showed nvidia loaded, and no noveau. didnt try new user though [09:39] Ubu-1604, my last was for you... [09:39] Ubu-1604: yeah ftp server will run on all flavors of ubuntu, server and desktop alike [09:40] Ubu-1604: what chipset do you have that's i386 only? [09:41] If I'm trying to run a java app (in a jar) that's described as "requir[ing] GTK", what package should I probably be looking to install? gtk? merely libgtk-something? [09:41] try apt search libgtk [09:43] spikebike: thanks. that returns quite a lot [09:45] it looks like libgtk2.0-0 is already installed [09:45] so it doesn't run? [09:47] guiverc: ya ok I understand what you mean .. I think I will just stick to the desktop distros then, gotta have a gui since my linux/unix skills are pretty low :| [09:47] Ubu-1604: server and desktop versions are really the same thing nowadays, they just install different packages. so, yes, you can install an ftp serve ron your desktop installation. [09:48] spikebike: the computers I am wanting to install on are dual P3 and dual Xeon chips (older ones) [09:48] dabbler, what is the java app called? [09:49] tomreyn: awsome .. then that's what I will do ... this 16.04 isn't all that bad really, runs darn fast :D [09:49] Ubu-1604: unity -> ubuntu gnome is not visually a huge step but several things change under the hood, yes. [09:49] Ubu-1604: impressive, that's pretty old [09:51] Ubu-1604: 18.04 also runs fast (maybe more so if you don't use the default desktop). but you can always give it a try (using the live iso) once upgrading becomes possible. [09:51] spikebike: well I got these rackmount units some time ago (dell and ibm), but they should work well .. I just wanted to avoid installing windows server on them [09:51]