[00:46] <ubptgbot> iferca was added by: iferca
 Hi, I own a Samsung Galaxy tab A tablet. Wondering if I can try Ubuntu touch on such device.
 I think there is not a port for it
[00:58] <MindYourLanguage> You could make a port of Halium and test that
[01:30] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> Hi
[01:31] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> I have a problem with ubuntu touch....'
[01:33] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> I like to use it on a BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition,but when I flash it on, the call- app( for using phone) is instantly stopped.......what to do?
 Clean the cache maybe. Which version did you flash ?
[02:52] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> the latest
 16.04 or 15.04?
 So the call app crashes on launch?
 granted, dialer app just straight crashing on either one doesn't really make any sense
 there should be a log for the app, if you have logviewer app installed, or you can check under `~/.cache/upstart/` directory to find the log for the app
 Quick question for you guys
 What is your past experiences with battery degredation on nexus devices?
 And, would you get a replacement OEM battery from 2013 from ifixit, or a chineese one from 2017 on amazon?
 No different than any other device. Depends on how much it was used, whether the person with it cared for the battery, etc.
 I think @amolith has experience with replacing the battery
 nexus 4 battery replace is pretty decently easy i think, nexus 5 is a bit more involved
 I just ordered a certified refurbished nexus 5... however i'm nervous over how it's battery will do... And since there is few options in regards to replacements... either ancient OEM batteries that might be just as bad... or chineese ones that might not be as much MAH as they advertise
 if it's refurb, battery should be fine
 [Edit] I just ordered a certified refurbished nexus 5 (yesterday)... however i'm nervous over how it's battery will do... And since there is few options in regards to replacements... either ancient OEM batteries that might be just as bad... or chineese ones that might not be as much MAH as they advertise
 However people have had bad experiences with their batteries in the past @dohbee
 And ended up returning it
 It's amazon certified, so i honestly have no clue how or who refurbed it either
 I just decided it would be safer to go amazon than ebay or something
 I bought my Nexus 5 off Swappa. It was advertised as 16GB but came as 32. It also has a pretty great battery considering it was a high-use device
 @UniversalSuperBox I specifically went for the 16 GB model because i figured its more likely that it was only used a few years due to the person owning it wanting more space on a newer phone.
 @Aberts10, Not necessarily. I bought an entire midframe assembly for my N5 and it was complete rubbish. I've gone through three in a month (free replacements) and I'm getting my money back
 What seller? @amolith
 @Aberts10, I even got the 3 year accident protection plan that I had better be refunded for as well. … https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M7SABZI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 [Edit] @UniversalSuperBox I specifically went for the 16 GB model because i figured its more likely that it was only used a few years due to the person owning it wanting more space on a newer phone. (So hopefully less degredation? Plus the fact that they at least test it supposedly to see if it functions fine, so if it worked for t
[03:06] <ubptgbot> hem, there's a higher chance of the existing battery lasting at least a bit)
 I am completely unsatisfied with the product
 Most definitely you will!
 Amazon pretty much always refunds people.
 That's why i stick with them
 And they've even given discounts and done free overnight shipping in some cases to rectify issues
 @Aberts10, That is nice. I have Prime too.
 Just kind of nervous with the new thing in the news about them banning people from returns if they deem you to return too many things... And in the past two months i've had to return quite a few things that had issues.
 @Aberts10, Yeah
 That's why i'm really really nervous about this nexus refurb unit
 This is getting kind of OT now . . . https://t.me/ubports_ot 😉
 Okay, thanks.
 https://youtu.be/kqsRvr18V6Q
 Does this method of theme changing still work?
 I bet this could work as a simple "night" mode with a app that allows you to quickly change between the light and dark theme
 excuse me.when use aplay  to wav file ,it work .but the system has no sound.the test_audio print segmentation fault.please help me.
[07:08] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> hi
 @Aberts10, Yep, this still works, but it's slightly buggy with certain apps.
[07:12] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> Ubuntu Touch problems with my phone;BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition; the phone app doesnt work
 @Aberts10, How did you get that dark theme? :)
 @Fabian, It's in the description of the video..
 @Lyokanthrope, Ah nie, just saw the picture, thank you
 @Aberts10, I got mine on eBay just recently, new/not refurbished. The battery is fine. No complaints here.
[08:54] <ubptgbot> ManuelGrind was added by: ManuelGrind
 @ManuelGrind, Hi Manuel, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 HI, thank you
 :)
 @kuailexs, I see that you have not been answered. Are you trying to port to a new device or is this about a supported device?
 It is about supported device. Nexus 5 and macOS High Sierra
 @ManuelGrind, Is an installation problem?
 @ManuelGrind, Sorry Manuel. That was a reply to a question about playing waves files
 @ManuelGrind, [Edit] Sorry Manuel. That was a reply to a question about playing wav files
 @ManuelGrind, [Edit] Is it an installation problem?
 @kuailexs, We have groups in various different languages. Maybe we have a group in your first language?
 @kuailexs, You need to use `paplay` instead. Audio is not alsa
 @advocatux, Yes!!
 What is the easiest way to move data to an Ubuntu Phone from PC or the other way around?
 Filezilla? FTP or SFTP?
 @advocatux, With Nexus5... Il recognizes the device but at the end nothing happens and it stays freezed
 @advocatux, [Edit] With Nexus5... Il recognizes the device but at the end nothing happens and it stays frozen
 @ignorare, Telegram's saved messages feature, MTP via USB, FTP, NextCloud or OwnCloud, perhaps even e-mail. It's your choice, really.
[11:51] <ubptgbot> <Uwe Deutschmann> da kann man sich aber auch das Geld für die Fähnchen sparen, hat eben alles eine gute Seite...
 @Georgecloon, So FTP over WiFi works?
 I think so. IIRC the file manager has FTP functionality.
 (Photo, 304x29) https://irc.ubports.com/oyoeCPkT.png
 https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome
 It's supposed to say polski
 also, lowercase, cause our uppercase/lowercase letter rules are freaked up
 @Georgecloon, Yeah? SFTP as well?
 I am just thinking about how I can move data without a cable. 😄
 There is a wifi transfer app
 @VeryOriginalUsername, I relayed it to the language group
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tSaj6902.json
 @Stereofont, Do you remember its name?
 WifiTranfer perhaps?
 I will check...
 How do you guys transfer your data? Not always over USB I guess?
 Telegram is dangerous for trustful things, USB is annoying and mailing is too much work. 😄
 @ignorare, Private cloud for sensitive stuff, telegram "saved messages" for non sensitive stuff, corporate cloud for corporate stuff
 @G_Raffe, And how do you attach the Cloud to the phone?
 @ignorare, which one?
 What are you doing with your phone so it needs cloud access
 I never get that xD
 If I need to transfer something to phone, than … 1. create sharing link … 2. download over browser … simple is that
 @ignorare, i used rsync the last time i transferred some files to my phone. Worked as expected
 @ignorare, I use bluetooth to transfer files between phones
 @ignorare, enable SSH on the phone, copy your public key to `~/.ssh/authorized_keys` on it, and then scp/sftp?
 @dohbee, Useful link here: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html#
 @VeryOriginalUsername, fixed
 @Flohack, in my case, for our business, we have a scenario where we take photos of shipments before they go out the door and I need the photo to upload direct to NC directory (again)... (one day)...
 @dohbee, i test it . the paplay is work too
 @Flohack, weather monitoring
 try to porting ub on xiaomi 4 . ub15.04 audio is work , but ub16.04 no work . use  same system.img file , and in ub16.04 can use aplay and paplay play wav file
 16.04 is unstable overally
 @kuailexs, Are you in the UBports porting group?
 UBports porting group? maybe not.
 @kuailexs, @UniversalSuperBox
 There is a dedicated group to discuss the porting ？
 which a dedicated group to discuss the porting ？
 @ubports_porting i think
 @dohbee, thank you
 @ubports_porting
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/C5Y0a20y.png
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/TAf4FLuy.png
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/CJHt8mGc.png
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/viG1JU9J.png
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/KlDQpAN1.png
 @Lyokanthrope, .
 @YougoChats, what's this?
[14:34] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> Hi
 @mymike00, looks like native telegram for ubuntu phones
 sure, but why there are some black parts?
 probably cause of the system's color scheme
 @ignorare, I just checked and FTP functionality is not available in UT's file manager, but in the uFTP app which is in the OpenStore
 Oh and Syncthing is also in the OpenStore, albeit an old version. You can upgrade it manually, though.
[14:45] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> anyon help me with my phone?
 @Lars Goran, What problem are you having?
 I have loose the SIM icons after having few free space. I'd like to send a command in Terminal to restore them
 @Lars Goran, Making a username in Telegram makes it much easier to assist
[14:50] <ubptgbot> <Lars Goran> I have a BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition. I wanna use ubuntu touch on it. I have flashed it over and the only thing that doesnt work is the calling service....what to do?
 Moved to Welcome room
 @G_Raffe, yup. changed the system theme to SuruDark (follow the replies back up the thread). some apps work wel, some apps completely ignore (and some of those have their own dark theme switch) and some apps only partly follow, causing white text on white background in dekko, and some dark patches in telegram
 it's a shame beacuse the parts where the dark theme works well do look good.
[15:28] <ubptgbot> Bonob0b was added by: Bonob0b
 Hi everybody. I am back with my OPO. I don't have the surimpressed menu anymore when updates are installing. It then reboots, but at the end, it keeps rebooting. Any idea ? (btw, I closed the  issue I opened on github for the surimpressed menu).
 @ignorare OTG adapter
 Oops sorry. wrong group.
 Or ?
 is it the helping group ?
 I am lost
 OPO?
 Sorry OnePlus One. Sorry for the mistake, I'll join the welcome and install group.
 @Cesar_Herrera, network menu is missing entirely if you pull down the indicators? (it shows a gear icon for network?)
[16:02] <ubptgbot> openmatica_com was added by: openmatica_com
 @openmatica_com, Hi Ritxi, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 is the terminal app in the 16.04 image this one: https://github.com/ubports/terminal-app ? I think it's the newer one, but I can't find another repository
 @dohniks that's the vivid branch. I think this is the one for xenial https://github.com/ubports/terminal-app/tree/xenial
 But maybe is better to ask @Flohack or @mariogrip about it
 @dohniks, the repository is the same. it's the branch you need to change
 Has anyone tried building mycroft on UT?
 Hey @jonny
 Hey @UniversalSuperBox
 @jonny, Read up one message ;)
 @amolith, Yes, a small group of developers from munich and stuttgart is experimenting with mycroft.
 @jonny, If only I spoke German lol
 @UniversalSuperBox, I was already typing. But I am slow ;)
 @amolith, Ocourse you are welcome to join if you would like.
 that's cool to know! though I'm still not amazed with AI assisstants :)
 @jonny, Could you send me a link?
 @Javacookies, I am amazed with their potential, especially with Mycroft's.
 @amolith, One day, we may need a Terminator 😎
 @amolith, I'll add you to our local group. I guess we may create an public group soon.
 @Stereofont, That's a little too far 😉
 @amolith, Far OT for sure 😂
 @dohbee, thx @dohbee @advocatux
 👍
[19:35] <ubptgbot> Xray2000 was added by: Xray2000
 Welcome back Rudi
 @Stereofont, Thanks Lionelb, i'm not realy back as i dont have yet a new device for running UT, but i came a look how it's going with the progress of the 16.04 ;)
 @Xray2000, Very well. Hoping for end of June, with RC in a couple of weeks or so
 @Stereofont, Ok thanks for the info, and how is it with the progress of Anbox ?
 @Xray2000, It depends on 16.04 of course. Qualcomm processors are also a roadblock though
 @Stereofont, Ok cool yes i need this for one app i use... that's why i'm waiting....
 Pro5 has something basic to test - it is not Qualcomm based
 Absolutely not daily use though
 @Stereofont, Yes i know i have test that before ;) But no problem i will wait and see ;)
 @Xray2000, 👍
 If a app says it's based on the ubuntu-sdk-15.04.6 framwork, does that mean it will not work on 16.04?
 [Edit] If a app says it's based on the ubuntu-sdk-15.04.6 framework, does that mean it will not work on 16.04?
 @Aberts10, no. it depends on if the app has any compiled code, particularly c++ or anything that links to c++ libs
 @dohbee, Could you please describe your proposed solution about branches on unity8 repos? So that i can quote it or link to it
 My pr fixing qt5.11 got merged into bionic branch and well i don't really want to go over each branch to backport it
 Your opinion is reasonable, i just need it in a written form that i can present to marius
 everything should have a "master" branch that is not tied to a specific ubuntu version (but may require newer versions because of features/dependencies), and all development should happen there. ideally anything in that branch will compile against xenial or bionic. and if there needs to be stable branches for certain things, there ca
[20:29] <ubptgbot> n be, and things can be backported as necessary. and then builds of things would happen similar to how we were doing them before, where packages would get built for multiple supported ubuntu series, from the same branch, and only the debian/changelog for the latest series would get merged to master when a build happened
 but it's going to be quite a bit of work to move ubports to be in that state
 👌
 hey guys how about microsoft buying github?
 @Ismaelbonato that's a perfect question for the OT group :)
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/3S0MkKs0.mp4
 @advocatux, Meaning not here 😎
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KNCOzHzh.webp
 @Waldbursche, kkkkkkkk
 @Stereofont, meaning @ubports_ot
 @Waldbursche, Giving points of view using mems is great!
 @Waldbursche, [Edit] Giving points of view using memes is great!
 this is also OT
 Hey everybody. I updated to Xenial r 410 on hammerhead and r87 on krillin today. Where can I see what has been changed so I know what improvements I should be looking for/testing?
 @aribk, Xenial isn't officially out yet
 I except a full changelog to be available upon release
 I know that. But, I expect the developers could use a helping hand confirming if changes work (or don't).
 @vanyasem, I know that. But, I expect the developers could use a helping hand confirming if changes work (or don't).
 @aribk take a look to https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1206/what-are-the-changes-in-releases In short: is not so easy as it looks to have changelogs
 @advocatux, Great, thanks! That's what I needed. I know the project is short handed and I REALLY want to see it succeed. I'm trying to find a way to be of assistance without tying people down in not-so -fruitful discussions on Telegram.
 Browsing https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues and testing, confirming... bugs is a great way to start helping
 How stable is 16.04 right now?
 @amolith, About 16'04 :)
 @amolith, In official terms not Stable but it is stable
 @Stereofont, How should I upgrade?
 Using the installer
 Normal stuff works, looks nice, not choppy
 @advocatux, Noted. I'll pick up there.
 I speak for BQ tablet experience …
 Should I worry about backing anything up upgrade?
 @aribk, Perfect
 [Edit] Should I worry about backing anything up prior to the upgrade?
 @amolith some devices are more stable than others, so to speak. Which device are you thinking to upgrade?
 @amolith, Depends how paranoid you are and how important the stuff
 @Stereofont, N5 … I really need two so I can have one as stable and one as unstable lol
 That's what I'm doing now
 Me too
 Although aivwould be happy to switch the phone too
 [Edit] Although I would be happy to switch the phone too
 You can take a look to the open issues for your device to get a general idea of what you're dealing
 There may be some app you really need that will not work
 N5 have a wifi problem on xenial
 @advocatux, Where would I find these?
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues see [xenial]
 You can use "Labels" too
 for searching
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/labels
 You can go back but I would say don't decide with that in mind. Move when you feel ready to switch
 For example using label "hammerhead" https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/labels/device%3A%20hammerhead
 I'm not going to switch quite yet 😉
 :)
 I'd really like to but the mobile issue is an issue lol
 I subscribed to both of them though so I can see when they're closed
 Yep, I have a Nexus 5 waiting to make the jump too
 I'm testing xenial on a BQ E4.5
 I need more devicessssss
 lol
 It doesn't look different on the surface. The new bits are under the hood, waiting to be tuned and modded
 So don't expect excitement
 Expect possibilities 😎
 huzzah https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-app-launch/pull/1
 🎉🙌
[22:25] <ubptgbot> sergiusens was added by: sergiusens
 Hey, I recognize that name
 Hi there @sergiusens !
 Hey, I thought I'd rejoin after my hiatus from every telegram group to keep up with my fave project and mobile OS 😊
 ❤️
 I my undust my personal m10 to catch up and eventually help out here and there (if time permits)
 oh hi @sergiusens
 hi!
 Hope everything is good with you. Nice to see familiar faces contributing 😊
 o/
 @dohbee, I confirm that it was unused
 Patched it in the local tree
[23:36] <ubptgbot> brianocall was added by: brianocall
 Yeah that surprised me
 Welcome @brianocall  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 [Edit] Welcome @brianocall !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.