[00:39] <pierre> hi, is this the posbuntu channel?
[00:42] <oerheks> sounds like a fork
[00:43] <guiverc> no "point of sale" support here sorry pierre
[01:03] <alberto75> hi, i can send files from my pc with ubuntu to my cell using bluetooth but not from my cell to my pc can i fix it?
[02:26] <Predummy> ...
[02:45] <Predummy> hola
[03:35] <superguest> glish
[03:47] <mekhami> anyone here use teamspeak 3? i got it running but it struggles to detect my sound device. i assume i'm using pulseaudio and it gives me an option for ALSA
[03:48] <mekhami> and i can't select anything
[05:06] <mrclassic> ping
[05:06] <mrclassic> ada orang??
[05:07] <baba___> pong, mrclassic
[05:07] <mrclassic> what you from indonesia to??
[05:08] <mrclassic> ping,baba
[05:09] <mrclassic> ping
[05:09] <mrclassic> hello
[05:10] <mrclassic> i'm newbie,can you help me
[05:10] <mrclassic> please
[05:15] <grillon> thank you ioria I'll try it later
[05:17] <baba___> seems unresponsive here
[05:31] <vicky> hi
[05:34] <guiverc> vicky, hi, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please ask it (ideally in a single line, and be patient waiting for people to respond..)
[05:36] <vicky> hii
[07:00] <B1ack0p> hello
[07:01] <B1ack0p> i am having this error while trying to install virtualbox : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/53ZbRGgCnW/
[07:03] <samsonait[m]> Here is the Wiki for the virtualbox installer. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[07:03] <samsonait[m]> Add the keys and try again :-)
[07:04] <B1ack0p> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z5QrDVsD7G/
[07:04] <B1ack0p> something is wrong since yesterday
[07:05] <B1ack0p> it doesnt install at all
[07:05] <B1ack0p> xampp doesnt work too
[07:05] <samsonait[m]> You hafe the correct dependencies in the sources.list? added the ubuntu keys for the installation. did a update. and still no package for virtualbox?
[07:06] <eblu_> the virtualbox package in the multiverse repo is at 5.2.10 so you should just install virtualbox instead
[07:06] <eblu_> oh, hm. maybe i should stay out of this one.
[07:06] <B1ack0p> well yesterday i had problem with mysql and removed it
[07:06] <B1ack0p> since then it doesnt work good
[07:07] <B1ack0p> can i restore ubuntu?
[07:07] <B1ack0p> yesterday i installed xampp and then mysql and then i faced problems
[07:07] <samsonait[m]> oh god. uhm alright
[07:07] <B1ack0p> now i cant install anything with that error
[07:08] <samsonait[m]> Made a backup of ur sources.list?
[07:08] <B1ack0p> i dont think so
[07:08] <B1ack0p> i think i am gonna re-install ubuntu again
[07:08] <samsonait[m]> Alright. Good luck with that one!
[07:09] <B1ack0p> thx
[07:10] <B1ack0p> does xampp already include mysql? do i need to install mysql again?
[07:11] <samsonait[m]> Yes. but there are many flavours of maria. it requires some configuration and knowledge :-) Why do you want to install xamp?
[07:13] <B1ack0p> samsonait[m]: for wordpress websites i need xampp
[07:14] <B1ack0p> isnt it necessary?
[07:14] <B1ack0p> also i wanna learn php and mysql
[07:16] <samsonait[m]> It is necessary yes. Search for Ubuntu LAMP installation. And do read it. dont just copy and pase terminal codes. understand it thats my golden tip for you :-) Good luck m8
[07:17] <B1ack0p> thx samsonait[m]
[08:05] <sonu_nk> hi i am facing this issue when i am trying to upgrade https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P3xScK79FW/
[08:12] <sonu_nk> Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin
[08:12] <sonu_nk> .... i tried to reinstall it may be its crashed or corrupt... how to get rid form this issue
[08:12] <guiverc> sonu_nk, i don't know; but you could try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin` and see if it gives more info
[08:14] <sonu_nk> guiverc, its says "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: phpmyadmin is broken or not fully installed
[08:14] <sonu_nk> "
[08:17] <guiverc> no additional info :( as I feared... can you please pastebin `apt-cache policy phpmyadmin`  (are you using 17.10 or 18.04?)
[08:20] <sonu_nk> guiverc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2wSXsdSMyv/ its ubuntu 18.04
[08:21] <guiverc> thanks - looks fine.  no clues :(
[08:21] <sonu_nk> guiverc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J7cxtx7XZT/ more here
[08:24] <guiverc> nothing new - i don't have time to grab package & look at installation script (status 10), and sorry can't think of anything else..  (a quick search for clues online)
[08:27] <guiverc> sonu_nk, no idea if it'll help (different error code=1) but https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881086 ; if the files it mentioned aren't important to you (ie. you're just installing it), you could consider trying it
[08:28] <sonu_nk> guiverc, is there any way to reinstall Ubuntu-18.04 again using usb via terminal ...?
[08:29] <moorfs_>  /nick moises_abednego
[08:29] <moorfs_> m
[08:30] <guiverc> i haven't tried since maybe 12.04 or whenever you could use a text installer, no idea sorry sonu_nk
[08:39] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: when package is broken, it's usually best to try to reinstall it and then remove it (if needed).
[08:39] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: sudo apt install --reinstall phpmyadmin
[08:42] <tomreyn> you said you already tried to reinstall it, though, maybe you took the same approach.
[08:43] <sonu_nk> i am trying  sudo apt install --reinstall phpmyadmin tomreyn
[08:43] <sonu_nk> lets c what heppend..
[08:44] <Philco> Hello all
[08:44] <Philco> Could somebody help me with a ubuntu question, please?
[08:44] <tomreyn> Philco: maybe, depends on your question ;)
[08:44] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/56MXJcJMdk/ please see here output
[08:45] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: what's the output of: dpkg --configure phpmyadmin
[08:45] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: what's the output of: sudo dpkg --configure phpmyadmin
[08:45] <Philco> I have been using ubuntu on my lenovo thinkpad for over 6 months problem free but now i cannot log in ... it seems not to respond to the keyboard and i get a message
[08:46] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: it will still fail, but hopefully we should get a better idea of why it does.
[08:46] <Philco> error parsing PCC subspaces from PCCT
[08:47] <tomreyn> Philco: did you do any major changes lately, such as upgrading to a newer ubuntu release or installing packages from third party repositories?
[08:47] <Philco> lvmtad is not active yet, using direct activation
[08:47] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, this error is not allwoing me install any application package, not able to upgrade
[08:47] <sonu_nk> even i cant install other apps to work
[08:47] <Philco> volume group "ubuntu-vg" not found
[08:48] <Philco> cannot process volume group ubuntu-vg
[08:48] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: i know. please run the dpkg command and report its output.
[08:48] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, please send me command..
 sonu_nk: what's the output of: sudo dpkg --configure phpmyadmin
[08:48] <Philco> tomreyn - no
[08:49] <Philco> I haven't installed anything new or updated OS in a while
[08:49] <tomreyn> Philco: which ubuntu release is it?
[08:50] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/92b3qQCn93/ tomreyn
[08:50] <Philco> I am not sure ...I think pretty recent
[08:51] <Philco> Sorry, tomreyn - I'm not overly techy
[08:51] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: backup your phpmyadmin configuration (should be in /etc/phpmyadmin/ ) and purge the package using dpkg: sudo dpkg --purge phpmyadmin
[08:51] <tomreyn> Philco: that's fine. is it a graphical login you cannot login to?
[08:52] <tomreyn> Philco: can you press ctrl-alt-f1 and see whether that gives you a textual login, and whether you can type your user name there?
[08:52] <Philco> Yes, tomreyn - but after a short while it changes to a black screen with text. Just the message I typed here and then a line asking me to enter passwrod to decrypt
[08:52] <Dipkill> hey sir.. how i can't connect to irc.darchoods.net?
[08:53] <Philco> yes, tomreyn -- 2 mins
[08:53] <tomreyn> !ot | Dipkill
[08:53] <tomreyn> sure Phil
[08:54] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: any luck?
[08:54] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5vwrTZqB6F/ please see here
[08:54] <l4wly> where can i find the "unistd_32.h" file on 18.04? on older versions it was in /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/unistd_32.h
[08:54] <Philco> tomreyn when I power on it gives the book options screen but will not respond to arrow keys or return key so i have to wait for the countdown ... i have tried to interrupt the start up but cannot
[08:54] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: uh, can't install, can't remove, not an easy one. ;-)
[08:55] <l4wly> sorry wrong path: /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/asm/unistd_32.h
[08:55] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: i will need to review those scripts, give me a minute.
[08:55] <sonu_nk> ok
[08:56] <Philco> tomreyn, i get a flicker between the usual login screen and the black screen, but when i release it stays at the graphical login - however it doesnt respond to me typing on the keys
[08:57] <tomreyn> Philco: try the other F keys, such as ctrl-alt-f2, -f3,... same behaviour?
[08:58] <Philco> will do tomreyn
[08:59] <Philco> tomreyn -- the f1 and f2 both switch between graphical and black screens ... other f keys have no effect
[09:00] <Philco> Also, I have to hold down the function key to use f1, f2 etx
[09:01] <mouses> Philco: plug in a USB input device so you can figure out what's going on?
[09:01] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: is the database server running on the same computer? if so, is it actually running? sudo systemctl status mysql
[09:01] <tomreyn> Philco: but it doesn't stay on the black screne, right?
[09:01] <tomreyn> *screen
[09:02] <Philco> mouses, you mean like a mouse?
[09:02] <mouses> Philco: yeah or a USB keyboard would probably help a lot
[09:02] <Philco> yes tomreyn, hitting f1 or f2 switches between them -- i can leave it on the black screen or graphic screen
[09:03] <tomreyn> Philco: okay, and on the black screen you cannot enter your username either?
[09:03] <sonu_nk> Active: active (running) since Sun 2018-06-03 13:30:06 IST; 1h 3min ago
[09:03] <sonu_nk>  tomreyn ^
[09:03] <Philco> tomreyn, that's right ... it doesnt seem to respond to the keyboard text input
[09:04] <tomreyn> Philco: i assume you rebooted already and it remained the same?
[09:04] <Philco> yes, tomreyn, many times :(
[09:04] <Philco> it was working yesterday
[09:05] <Philco> this started last night
[09:05] <tomreyn> Philco: do you nkow how to enter bios, or access grub?
[09:05] <Philco> sorry, tomreyn, i dont
[09:07] <tomreyn> Philco: did you try connecting the keyboard to a different usb port?
[09:07] <tomreyn> that's if this is a desktop computer and not a laptop
[09:07] <Philco> it is a laptop, tomreyn - i dont have a seperate keyboard
[09:08] <Philco> tomreyn, its a lenovo thinkpad x240
[09:08] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, mysql running
[09:09] <tomreyn> Philco: reboot and keep the shift key pressed, this should bring up the "grub" menu. press ctrl-x there and see if you can enter text anywhere, just to see whether the keyboard still works. then reboot again, and hold down shift again and then select "advanced options" (or similar) and select the first recovery boot option and press enter.
[09:09] <Philco> thanks, tomreyn - ill give it a try
[09:09] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: right, i didnt forget about you. ;)
[09:10] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: let's try purging dbconfig-common: sudo dpkg --purge dbcopnfig-common
[09:10] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: let's try purging dbconfig-common: sudo dpkg --purge dbconfig-common
[09:10] <tomreyn> ^typo fixed
[09:12] <tomreyn> Philco: once you did all of this, you'll should end up on a pink text graphics menu. at this point please tell us whether the keyboard was working poreviously in grub.
[09:12] <lesshaste> I can't read red writing on a black background which gnome terminal insists it wants to show me. How can I change this?
[09:13] <tomreyn> ...and also check whether you can move up/down with cursor keys on this text graphics menu
[09:13] <Philco> sorry tomreyn, i'm getting the grub screen but i cannot type or move the selection bar at all ... i tried ctrl-x also
[09:14] <Philco> actually that is the menu i've been getting on start up
[09:14] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dSnpfMGFYy/ tomreyn
[09:14] <tomreyn> Philco: do you have any external devices plugged into the laptop? if so, remove all but those you strictly need and tell me what's still connected.
[09:14] <Philco> the selection bar stays on the first option and i have to wait for the timer to count down before i get the log in box
[09:14] <Philco> tomreyn, there is nothing at all connected
[09:17] <tomreyn> Philco: hmm this must be some electrical / electronic issue, i think. you could try to see whether you can enter the bios. you'd usually need to press enter or escape followed by one of delete, f2 or alt-f2 during the first screen the computer will draw when you power it on.
[09:18] <Philco> thanks, tomreyn - i will try
[09:19] <tomreyn> Philco: if you can access bios this way you will have proven that your keyboard still works. if so, you could boot from a different system, such as a usb drive with the ubuntu installer on it, adn see whether the keyboard also workls there.
[09:20] <tomreyn> Philco: alternatively, my final suggestion would be to unpluc power off the laptop., and remove the battery also (should be possible on a lenovo), then press the power button for 5 seconds, then connect only the power cord but not the battery (if possible) and see whether it powers or and whether you can use the keyboard.
[09:20] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, :) i am looking at you
[09:20] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dSnpfMGFYy/ tomreyn
[09:20] <Philco> tomreyn -- no luck with that I'm afraid ... i will try to boot from a usb with an istaller on it
[09:21] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: sudo dpkg --purge dbconfig-mysql; sudo dpkg --purge dbconfig-common
[09:21] <Philco> tomreyn - i will try removing the battery / power and press the power button, then restart with just the power cable
[09:23] <REAMDE> hi
[09:23] <REAMDE> any1 active?
[09:23] <REAMDE> how to make ubuntu 18 use swap partition? not swap file?
[09:23] <tomreyn> !ask | REAMDE
[09:24] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r9bHgrkrRy/ :) seems bad luck everytime
[09:25] <tomreyn> REAMDE: you create a new partitioon (or use existing one), mkswap it to create a swap file system on it, then place this swap partiton in fstab so it will get used / be available.
[09:26] <REAMDE> ty lemme try
[09:27] <Philco> tomreyn, no luck with the battery removal but i did boot the laptop from an installation usb and got the installation desktop - however the arrow keys aren't working there either
[09:28] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: right, we're running in circles. let me look for an alternative approach.
[09:29] <tomreyn> Philco: this is a hardware issue, i'm afraid. if you're lucky you just tossed the laptop somewhere recently and all that happened is that the keyboard connector (to the mainboarD) got loose, then it's an easy fix (for someone into that). either way you'll probbaly need to seek support from a repair shop at this point.
[09:30] <Philco> thank you tomreyn - that is very helpful ... i will find a repair shop. you have been great - much appreciated :)
[09:30] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, should i reinstall it ubuntu ?
[09:32] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: it could surely fix it, but it's also a somewhat drastic measure. if you don't expect data loss it may be easier, though.
[09:32] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: the other option would be to investigate more closely what is wrong witht he post removal script of phpmyadmin
[09:33] <karstenk> Please is there someone who can help with this https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/m-GL0rzr28-jGoJOhZ5cUQ ?
[09:33] <sonu_nk> sonu_nk, i have everything install on my cloud.. always my pc clean and all backup on cloud
[09:33] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: this script should be located at /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.postrm
[09:34] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: good job doing proper backups. :)
[09:35] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: i suspect /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.postrm is a shell script. if so, you can insert a new line after the first line, saying: set -x
[09:35] <tomreyn> this should provide more output when you run "sudo dpkg --purge phyhmadmin" again
[09:36] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ffDRH87G8D/ here is the output
[09:36] <jcdutton> karstenk, How did you get into this situation?
[09:37] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: right, so if you insert a new line 2 saying just "set -x" that should provide better output.
[09:38] <karstenk> jcdutton coming from 16.04 and upgraded to 18.04
[09:38] <karstenk> jcdutton all is working so far, but try to install scribus and running into this
[09:40] <jcdutton> but the install is broken isn't it
[09:41] <karstenk> which?
[09:41] <jcdutton> You could try installing "upgrade-system" from universe.  It sometimes clears these sorts of problems up
[09:41] <karstenk> beaver is working for days, all is fine. But cant install scribus
[09:42] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, is there any way to reinstall it using command line ?
[09:42] <sonu_nk> means ubuntu 18
[09:42] <jcdutton> You still have 16.04 packages installed
[09:42] <doug16k> karstenk, if you put LC_ALL=C before the command like `LC_ALL=C sudo apt --fix-broken install` you should get english output and more people will be able to help
[09:43] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: we already tried to reinstall the phpmyadmin package, this was one of the first things we tried in fact.
[09:43] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: did you edit the postinstall script, did it help getting better output?
[09:44] <karstenk> doug16k thanks for the tip here is my update https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/L01W2-XeW1zeVqKoFkVH7g
[09:44] <tomreyn> karstenk: libkf5screen7 4:5.12.5-0neon+16.04+xenial+build60 is not an ubuntu package., apparently ouy had some ppa instaleld on 16.04 and did not use ppa-purge to remove it before you started your release upgrade.
[09:45] <tomreyn> that's a good recipe to run into such issues.
[09:45] <karstenk> tomreyn how can I purge old ppa or how to identify them all?
[09:46] <tomreyn> karstenk: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts -> foreign_packages
[09:46] <tomreyn> that's to identify them all
[09:46] <tomreyn> but you really should have done that before you upgraded.
[09:46] <tomreyn> (it can still help now)
[09:47] <karstenk> that cant be changed anymore
[09:48] <tomreyn> you'll need to put apt into a situation where it can install new packages first of all, though
[09:49] <karstenk> ?
[09:49] <tomreyn> so i guess i'd start with "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt purge libkf5screen7". if the former prints any warnings, show them. if the latter prints any errors, show them.
[09:51] <sonu_nk> tomreyn, same output it is giving..
[09:51] <sonu_nk> as it was giving before..
[09:51] <karstenk> tomreyn https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/E-W4N4c94QPFMn19vPmq5w
[09:52] <Wilher> Hola que tal
[09:52] <tomreyn> sonu_nk: that's after editing the postrm script?
[09:52] <tomreyn> !es | Wilher
[09:53] <Wilher> tengo un problema con ubuntu, lo instale pero no puedo iniciar sesion, al introducir la contrase;a, y me regresa a la misma pantalla, alguien puede ayudarme?
[09:53] <Wilher> ok ubottu
[09:53] <doug16k> karstenk, the LC_ALL=C trick works for almost any command, not just that one
[09:53] <doug16k> FYI
[09:53] <karstenk> thought this
[09:54] <karstenk> but forgot
[09:54] <doug16k> ok, just making sure that was clear :)
[09:54] <d3nial> hello
[09:55] <tomreyn> karstenk: sudo apt install libkf5screen7=4:5.12.4-0ubuntu1
[09:55] <karstenk> english version https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IzOp79Mxe04nuj8BupPzSg
[09:56] <karstenk> tomreyn https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Xp2W4ASsT1trGoKxhI9bvA
[09:57] <Xard> I have an audio issue with Realtek ALC1220 on ubuntu 18.04: on pulseaudio everything is fine but the very moment I start jack I get tons of xruns and really bad and slow audioplayback (repeatting small chunks)
[09:58] <Xard> the very moment I the audio playback issue comes I get IRQ timing workaround notice in dmesg
[09:58] <Xard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/77sBfyXcMK/ - here's verbose info of my hardware
[09:59] <tomreyn> karstenk: remove any third party repositories off /etc/apt/sources.list{.d/*} then run "sudo apt update", then run "sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[09:59] <tomreyn> !audio | Xard
[10:02] <tomreyn> karstenk: some, or actually several of the 3rd party repositories you have configured are not for ubuntu bionic. you should never use apt repositories which are not explicitly stated to be compatible to your very ubuntu version.
[10:03] <jcdutton> Xard, nvidia drivers do not play well with low latency applications. Try nouveau instead.
[10:04] <jcdutton> Xard, by "jack" I assume you mean jackd
[10:04] <Xard> jcdutton: yeah, jackd
[10:04] <Xard> jcdutton: i'm not using the nvidia hdmi audio output at all
[10:05] <karstenk> tomreyn :( same https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/aG2oG8FCFb8TKb8EXUPLSg
[10:06] <jcdutton> Xard, I am not sure, but jackd might not be compatible with pulse
[10:06] <Xard> jcdutton: the same thing happens though if i try to run say ardour using alsa as well without any jackd
[10:07] <Xard> and it captures the alsa device blocking everything else
[10:07] <tomreyn> karstenk: does "sudo apt install libkf5screen7=4:5.12.4-0ubuntu1" work this time?
[10:07] <karstenk> no same
[10:08] <karstenk> nothing changed
[10:09] <can> merhaba
[10:09]  * enyc meows
[10:09] <tomreyn> karstenk: yes, something changed, your apt sources are no longer random now. try this: sudo apt purge kscreen libpowerdevilcore2
[10:09] <can> merhaba
[10:09] <tomreyn> hi can
[10:09] <can> hi
[10:09] <tomreyn> !tr | can
[10:10] <can> do you speak inglish
[10:10] <can> ?
[10:10] <karstenk> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/BLJncVFdsnWlQ4~vdNAoyg
[10:10] <tomreyn> can: yes, we all speak english on this ubuntu support channel
[10:11] <tomreyn> karstenk: sudo apt purge kscreen libpowerdevilcore2 powerdevil
[10:12] <can> i understand i want to find a friend
[10:12] <tomreyn> can: this channel is only for ubuntu support, though. not a social chat.
[10:12] <karstenk> tomreyn executed
[10:12] <doug16k> karstenk, oh by the way, if you get tired of adding LC_ALL=C before each command, you can just run this command once and that terminal will stay in english from then on: export LC_ALL=C
[10:12] <tomreyn> karstenk: so this worked out?
[10:13] <can> 29/5000
[10:13] <can> How do I get social chat?
[10:13] <karstenk> yes
[10:13] <tomreyn> !ot | can
[10:13] <tomreyn> karstenk: what doug16k just told you only applies to the current temrinal window and does not persist across reboots, so it's entirely safe to do this.
[10:14] <tomreyn> karstenk: you can now run "sudo apt -f install"
[10:15] <karstenk> that worked but wanted to autoremove some libs. What Ive purged is not needed?
[10:16] <tomreyn> karstenk: i rented out my crytal ball to a friend over the weekend, can't tell.
[10:16] <karstenk> haha
[10:17] <tomreyn> karstenk: i.e. you will need to provide information on what you are doing / seeing if you'll want qualified feedback. usually autoremove is fine.
[10:18] <tomreyn> karstenk: once that is done and all issues discussed there are fixed, you can run my script from github to identify packages you should not have installed, or which should be replaced by the version in ubuntu.
[10:18] <karstenk> ok when I understoot you correctly that was old packages of former ubuntu releases and are obsolete and does not have to do with current system
[10:18] <tomreyn> karstenk: which ones?
[10:19] <karstenk> kscreen libpowerdevilcore2 powerdevil
[10:19] <karstenk> or should I reinstall them now?
[10:19] <tomreyn> karstenk: i'm not sure, you may want to reinstal those later. but the versions you had installed were nto from ubuntu, and caused problems.
[10:20] <tomreyn> no, not now.
[10:26] <tomreyn> karstenk: any luck?
[10:30] <Xard> regarding the audio issue, i got to work... kind of: using 96khz playback works
[10:40] <Xard> 88,2khz also works
[10:51] <sebsebseb> hi
[11:02] <asfjkcvj> X
[11:02] <asfjkcvj> Any one?
[11:02] <sebsebseb> y
[11:02] <sebsebseb> z
[11:03] <sebsebseb> !help asfjkcvj
[11:03] <asfjkcvj> What?
[11:03] <sebsebseb> !ask | asfjkcvj
[11:04] <asfjkcvj> Ok
[11:10] <samsonait[m]> Youre far away from home kinsman, Captain! what should we do with him?
[11:17] <master_> wtf is this
[11:36] <FManTropyx> lol, this is Athens
[11:37] <FManTropyx> if I compile a program on one Ubuntu, is it close enough, that I can run the exe on another?
[11:37] <jcdutton> FManTropyx, yes. Work better if you create a .deb file
[11:39] <FManTropyx> no idea how to that
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:55] <Xard> Yes! finally found the root issue of the ALC1220 raw alsa and jack playback problem
[11:55] <blackflow> Xard: what was it?
[11:55] <Xard> amount of channels
[11:56] <Xard> with "cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm*p/sub0/hw_params" if not defined jackd reserves 6 channels
[11:56] <Xard> checked with*
[11:56] <Xard> limit channels to 2 and playback works
[11:56] <blackflow> thanks for the follow up.
[12:26] <vtntimo> Hello
[12:27] <Matti__> Hello there
[12:29] <vtntimo> Popping in for a quick question regarding Google accounts and Ubuntu 18.04. I have added two Google accounts from the Settings > Online Accounts -view and selected to only sync my Calendar. What I am trying to do is to get my Google Calendar events showing up in the top task tray's calendar. For some reason, they're not showing and thus I have two questions: a) Is there a command I can run to sync the events, or does it always require a re-log / reboot to
[12:29] <vtntimo> fetch the newest ones? This behaviour would be a bit dull tbh. b) If not fixed via relog/reboot, do I have to install another application to get the calendar events showing? I really don't need nor want a separate Calendar software, just want my events showing up in the task tray calendar.
[12:30] <vtntimo> brb
[12:31] <vtntimo_> Quick network reset, sorry bout that... ;P
[12:36] <Matti__> I kinda messed up my Ubuntu 18.04 installation I think
[12:36] <|sergedx|> Hello, I'm getting this error when installing Ubuntu 18.04: "fuse: device not found, try modprobe fuse first". modprobe does not work, this module is not listed in lsmod output. Does anybody faced this issue, how to fix?
[12:56] <|sergedx|> fixed this problem by chrooting to the installed system, removing grub efi and installing grub-pc (Installer has not detected that I'm using BIOS for booting, not UEFI)
[13:11] <system16> hi. can i dualboot ubuntu with this pc ?
[13:11] <system16> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7400  @ 2.80GHz (2.80GHz) • Memory: 3.0 GiB Total (1.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 180.1 GiB / 268.8 GiB (88.7 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT • Uptime: 6h 46m 7s
[13:15] <CarlFK> system16: probably
[13:15] <system16> great. do u know how can i do that ?
[13:17] <CarlFK> you can install/run linux on most anything built in the last 15 years.  32 bit CPU or better, 4meg of ram or something
[13:17] <CarlFK> the tricky part of what you mention is "dualboot"
[13:17] <system16> y ?
[13:17] <system16> i think im a bit low on storage.
[13:18] <|sergedx|> system16: do you have free (unpartitioned) space on your disk? if not, you need to make it first, by using special utilites like partition magic
[13:18] <CarlFK> that means you need to get a bootloader installed that will boot both linux and windows, which may not boot if it isn't signed/secured or something, which may make it difficult.  (for me anyway)
[13:19] <system16> yes i have . but its only 8 MB
[13:19] <CarlFK> 88.7 GiB Free - plenty, but currently allocated to Windows.
[13:20] <system16> so i should shrink one of my drives ?
[13:20] <CarlFK> yes
[13:20] <system16> bootloader ? i need to install a bootloader ?
[13:21] <CarlFK> the ubuntu installer will both shrink your current drives and install the bootloader and give you the option of booting windows too
[13:22] <system16> oh so its ez
[13:22] <system16> it wont harm my data right ?
[13:22] <CarlFK> it will if you tell it to.  which is unlikely, but I did it once.
[13:23] <system16> so there is a option called dualboot in ubuntu installer ?
[13:23] <CarlFK> I got confused between which drive I wanted to keep and which I wanted to wipe and install the OS on.  whoops.
[13:23] <dombnexen> hello i need some help to find some workin android emu for ubuntu/ubuntu mate
[13:23] <|sergedx|> you better have a backup for all your data before shrinking. And if you already have such backup, another option is to reinstall windows first, with full repartition
[13:24] <system16> oh my problem is that ubuntu doesnt say the drive names  it just says /dev/sda
[13:24] <system16> or /dev/sda1
[13:24] <CarlFK> system16: you will see a message like "installer has detected another OS on your disk.  would you like the option to boot it?"
[13:24] <system16> and i should press yes ?
[13:24] <CarlFK> yep
[13:25] <CarlFK> like |sergedx| said, now is the time have a backup.
[13:25] <sonicwind> I avoid dual boot and run Ubuntu from an external hard drive
[13:25] <CarlFK> but you have that anyway.
[13:25] <system16> ok. thx can u give me a utube / article link about how to dualboot ubuntu w/ windows ?
[13:26] <CarlFK> there isn't enough to say.  press Y.
[13:26] <CarlFK> oh, shrink the drive.  hmm...
[13:27] <sonicwind> sda is a drive, sda1 is the first partition on that drive
[13:27] <CarlFK> sec. im sue there is something that describes options
[13:27] <system16> btw one of my drives is encrypted by bitlocker.
[13:27] <system16> b:\
[13:27] <CarlFK> sda is the labled linux gives it ;)
[13:27] <dombnexen> i need some help to find some workin android emu for ubuntu/ubuntu mate cause i try to use anbox but doesnt work for some reason
[13:28] <|sergedx|> system16: I'd better make chkdisk.exe /f for all windows partitions before shrinking them. Just to ensure they are clean of errors
[13:29] <system16> ok thx for ur help
[13:29] <system16> its kinda late. i have to go. bye for now.
[13:29] <CarlFK> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop?_ga=2.193432749.1882372898.1528032497-2001227028.1446618278#5
[13:30] <CarlFK> whoops, too late.
[13:30] <sonicwind> yeah, I just missed giving a link also
[13:30] <sonicwind> happens to me all the time... people leave before you can help them
[13:41] <humm8> CarlFK: your link does not work.
[13:41] <humm8> oops that is because of me...
[13:41] <humm8> my ublock plugin
[13:52] <sergedx> Any google-chrome-stable and 18.04 users here? My chrome hangs when I'm logging into google account in browser settings. Is it work for you?
[13:56] <dombnexen> i need some help to find some workin android emu for ubuntu/ubuntu mate cause i try to use anbox but doesnt work for some reason
[13:57] <Xard> sergedx: tried on chrome "Version 67.0.3396.62 (Official Build) (64-bit)" - no problem on ubuntu 18.04 here
[13:57] <hellyeah> hey
[13:57] <hellyeah> i remembered someone suggested me to not to use ppa
[13:57] <sergedx> Xard: what videocard do you have? intel, nvidia, amd?
[13:57] <hellyeah> i try to do lets encrypt
[13:58] <hellyeah> https://gist.github.com/cecilemuller/a26737699a7e70a7093d4dc115915de8
[13:58] <hellyeah> there is ppa suggestion in cert bot
[13:58] <hellyeah> is it okey to go to that way?
[13:58] <Xard> sergedx: cpu - amd ryzen and gpu - nvidia 1060 gtx
[13:58] <sergedx> Xard: btw, I just switched driver from nouveau to nvidia-driver-390 and problem disappeared
[13:58] <Xard> are you using custom google chrome themes?
[13:59] <sergedx> No. Just fresh installed chrome. It should be nouveau-related issue
[13:59] <Xard> sounds like nouveau problem
[13:59] <Xard> i just noticed that the chrome changes the theme abruptly when logging in which i didn't even remember
[14:00] <hellyeah> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:certbot/certbot told me to add that
[14:00] <Xard> but chrome is heavily gpu accelerated so it probably is a driver issue
[14:01] <hellyeah> hmm
[14:01] <hellyeah> any response?
[14:01] <hellyeah> crtbot is not in ubuntu repo
[14:02] <hellyeah> certbot
[14:03] <CarlFK> hellyeah: I think PPAs are fine
[14:04] <hellyeah> okay someone told me ppa can mess your system
[14:05] <sergedx> hellyeah: you can install certbot from git, if you don't want to trust third-party PPAs
[14:08] <hellyeah> i guess i can trust ppa for that package
[14:08] <leftyfb> hellyeah: you can trust the certbot ppa
[14:10] <zamanf> hello
[14:10] <CarlFK> hellyeah: anything can break your system ;)  different things have different risks.  PPA stuff is build from uploaded sources, which doesn't stop someone from uploading bad stuff, but at least someone can look and see.
[14:11] <zamanf> I would like to know how to create a virtual wifi interface and bridge my physical wifi?
[14:14] <oregonguy> DNS
[14:14] <oregonguy> flaky and slow
[14:14] <oregonguy> new bionic release
[14:14] <oregonguy> driving me nuts
[14:14] <oregonguy> it works sometimes, not other times
[14:14] <oregonguy> most of the time it can take >30s to a minute to resolve
[14:15] <leftyfb> !enter | oregonguy
[14:15] <samsonait[m]> Me 2 m8. Snapd and apparmor got me iritated.
[14:15] <leftyfb> oregonguy: nmcli device show|grep DNS    # what public dns server are you using?
[14:16] <samsonait[m]> Shotwell keeps crashing. Thunderbird aint working no more.
[14:16] <oregonguy> leftyfb: I don't know
[14:16] <oregonguy> whatever the install did I suppose
[14:16] <leftyfb> oregonguy: run the command I gave you, it will tell you
[14:16] <oregonguy> IP4.DNS
[14:17] <leftyfb> oregonguy: it's blank?
[14:17] <leftyfb> oregonguy: do you have access to your router?
[14:17] <oregonguy> yes
[14:17] <oregonguy> leftyfb: yes
[14:18] <leftyfb> oregonguy: in the router config, find out what DNS server is being given out via DHCP to your LAN
[14:18] <leftyfb> oregonguy: if there isn't one, find out what DNS server your router is using for it's WAN
[14:18] <samsonait[m]> Probably isp. If not configured
[14:19] <oregonguy> leftyfb: in the "DNS Server" part of advanced settings, I see domain name is netgear.com
[14:19] <leftyfb> oregonguy: that's the search suffix. What's the nameserver/DNS server?
[14:21] <oregonguy> leftyfb: working on figuring that out (not my speciality, here)... the service provider is listed (under dynamic DNS configuration) as "dyndns.org - dyndns"
[14:22] <leftyfb> oregonguy: it should be under the basic LAN and/or WAN sections
[14:22] <leftyfb> or connection
[14:24] <leftyfb> oregonguy: ok, lets step back for a moment and make sure any of this is going to matter. sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:24] <leftyfb> oregonguy: make sure it says "nameserver 1.1.1.1" on one of the lines. Comment out any other "nameserver" lines
[14:25] <oregonguy> leftyfb: it doesn't
[14:25] <leftyfb> oregonguy: save and quit and see if your DNS resolving improves
[14:25] <oregonguy> i will replace
[14:26] <oregonguy> leftyfb: made the change, stopped/restarted systemd-resolved
[14:26] <oregonguy> leftyfb: will test now
[14:27] <leftyfb> oregonguy: you don't need to restart anything after making changes to /etc/resolv.conf ... this is only temporary
[14:27] <hellyeah> i have ubuntu server machine my app run i want to do "lets encrypt" for my app
[14:28] <hellyeah> but when i give ip in cert bot command it told me certbot wont give certificate for bare address
[14:28] <hellyeah> how can i handle that?
[14:28] <oregonguy> leftyfb: thanks.  Well, I am randomly picking websites and, it is very very slow in resolving - like, >30s or more like a minute
[14:28] <oregonguy> things do resolve, but very very slowly
[14:29] <leftyfb> hellyeah: just run certbot-auto    # it will find any properly configured domains for you
[14:29] <leftyfb> oregonguy: which browser?
[14:29] <oregonguy> leftyfb: NAK on that last
[14:29] <leftyfb> oregonguy: in a terminal, try pinging domains like google.com. See if it still takes a long time
[14:30] <leftyfb> oregonguy: NAK?
[14:30] <oregonguy> not used to that editor
[14:30] <oregonguy> the change to 1.1.1.1 didn't stick
[14:30] <oregonguy> leftyfb: let me retest
[14:30] <leftyfb> oregonguy: what do you mean?
[14:30] <hellyeah> leftyfb,  is that okey like that certbot-auto certonly --webroot --agree-tos --no-eff-email --email beratn@gmail.com -w /var/www/letsencrypt -d .... -d domain.com
[14:30] <leftyfb> oregonguy: oh right, because you restarted networking. Don't do that. Just make the change to the file and retest
[14:30] <oregonguy> leftfb: what I meant was ignore my previous "still slow"
[14:31] <leftyfb> hellyeah: you don't need all that. Just run "certbot-auto"
[14:31] <oregonguy> leftyfb: the change to resolv.conf wasn't actually made... i have corrected that and am retesting
[14:32] <hellyeah> my system doesnt know certbot-auto
[14:32] <hellyeah> i installed certbot
[14:32] <leftyfb> hellyeah: didn't you just run it?
[14:32] <hellyeah> yes
[14:32] <hellyeah> on console
[14:32] <hellyeah> it told me "command not found"
[14:32] <oregonguy> leftyfb: still slow slow slow and, occasionally it just doesn't resolv
[14:33] <leftyfb> oregonguy: cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep -v -- "#"
[14:33] <leftyfb> oregonguy: what does that say?
[14:34] <leftyfb> hellyeah: ok, try just running "certbot"
[14:35] <oregonguy> leftyfb: it says "nameserver 1.1.1.1"
[14:35] <oregonguy> and
[14:35] <oregonguy> "search netgear.com"
[14:35] <leftyfb> oregonguy: try removing the search line
[14:36] <leftyfb> oregonguy: also, does ping take long to resolve as well?
[14:36] <oregonguy> so, ping to www.google.com just took about.... well.... still waiting
[14:36] <oregonguy> leftyfb: so, yes, long time
[14:37] <hellyeah> i dont have a domain name
[14:37] <leftyfb> oregonguy: got any other machines to test this on?
[14:37] <hellyeah> damn
[14:37] <oregonguy> all of my other windows systems are fine, well, i have one left
[14:37] <oregonguy> my android system (phone) is fine
[14:37] <oregonguy> so, no
[14:37] <oregonguy> not really
[14:38] <hellyeah> do i have to but a domain?
[14:38] <hellyeah> buy*
[14:39] <Allie`> hellyeah: as I understand it, LE policy is to not issue certificates for bare IP addresses
[14:39] <leftyfb> hellyeah: no. Sorry, I missed that you were trying to do this for an app
[14:39] <leftyfb> hellyeah: you'll need to seek support from letsencrypt for help with that
[14:40] <hellyeah> it seems like that
[14:40] <leftyfb> Right. LE is for domins
[14:40] <oregonguy> leftyfb: thanks for all the suggestions: I'll come back at some other time
[14:40] <hellyeah> i found certbot-auto script
[14:40] <Allie`> TLSing bare IPs is at odds with the way their automatic verification works
[14:41] <hellyeah> I see
[14:42] <hellyeah> so i will but a domain
[14:43] <leftyfb> hellyeah: you realize you'll need this hosted somewhere with a static IP right?
[14:44] <hellyeah> hosted in my server
[14:44] <hellyeah> it isnt possible?
[14:44] <leftyfb> Do you have a static IP address?
[14:44] <leftyfb> Public
[14:45] <RonWhoCares> I upgraded from ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 last night.  Now there are no video - image thumbnails.  My video editing software doesn't recognize ,jpg as images
[14:48] <hellyeah> certbot-auto solved my problem it seems
[14:49] <hellyeah> okay
[14:49] <hellyeah> i need a domain that is for sure
[14:50] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[14:51] <guozitian> hi
[14:51] <yellabs-r2> there used to be notifcation-message-im icons, waht should i use instead with the new 18.04 ?
[14:51] <yellabs-r2> for notify send..
[15:05] <blackflow> The installer in Kubuntu 18.04 is broken in the manual partitioning section. How do I find out if any bugs have been reported, and/or against which package do I file a bug report? Not quite sure how to look up kubuntu specific issues on LP...
[15:06] <atmospheric> hi, what's the correct way to run a shell script in the initial login screen i.e. after the X server starts (and lightdm), but before the user logs in?
[15:08] <ikonia> atmospheric: what sort of thing do you want to do ?
[15:10] <atmospheric> ikonia: my touchpad doesn't work, and I'm trying to manually enable or disable it
[15:11] <ikonia> atmospheric: how do you fix it ?
[15:11] <SporkWitch> atmospheric: elan1200?
[15:11] <atmospheric> by using synclient I can control whether it responds to touch or not
[15:11] <atmospheric> now I'm trying to automate it
[15:11] <XfR34rFT8ij> hi. I can't ping as a simple user ? why ? ping is setuid. or is it because I use the guest account ?
[15:11] <atmospheric> synclient won't work until the X server is running, and I'd like to run it before the user logs in
[15:12] <ikonia> XfR34rFT8ij: what is the error / problem
[15:12] <atmospheric> so that means lightdm
[15:12] <ikonia> atmospheric: could you still use rc.local ?
[15:12] <SporkWitch> XfR34rFT8ij: surprisingly common problem, let me try to find the solution, i can't remember off the top of my head
[15:12] <ikonia> as that would be before the desktop session but after X
[15:12] <atmospheric> I'll try
[15:13] <ikonia> atmospheric: the obvious way would to be create a systemd unit
[15:13] <ikonia> that depended on the X server
[15:14] <atmospheric> bleh, that won't work apparently
[15:14] <XfR34rFT8ij> ikonia: ping 8.8.8.8 ping: icmp open socket: Permission denied
[15:14] <atmospheric> Failed to connect to X server
[15:14] <atmospheric> Seems like I'll have to start it after login
[15:15] <ikonia> XfR34rFT8ij: and this is on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <XfR34rFT8ij> 16.04
[15:15] <ikonia> XfR34rFT8ij: ls -la /usr/bin/ping
[15:15] <XfR34rFT8ij> ikonia: ls -l /bin/ping -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 44168 mai    7  2014 /bin/ping
[15:17] <yellabs-r2> hello , i have this problem that my desktop wallpaper goes black instead of the wallpaper
[15:17] <ikonia> XfR34rFT8ij: so that should respond to anyone, do you have apparmour or anything running
[15:17] <SporkWitch> XfR34rFT8ij: reinstalling the package that contains ping should fix the perms
[15:17] <yellabs-r2> what would be the cause of that ?
[15:17] <ikonia> what has happened to the permissions ?
[15:18] <comodore64> hello world
[15:20] <XfR34rFT8ij> may be an apparmor profile for guest account ?
[15:20] <ioria> XfR34rFT8ij, are you on WSL ?
[15:21] <XfR34rFT8ij> ioria: no
[15:21] <comodore64> WSL how are you?
[15:23] <XfR34rFT8ij> brb
[15:24] <SporkWitch> XfR34rFT8ij: assuming 18.04, apt install iputils-ping --reinstall; this will force it to reinstall the application, which should hopefully resolve the permissions issues.
[15:26] <XfR34rFT8ij_> ok. so ping works as normal user but as guest user FYI
[15:26] <XfR34rFT8ij_> but +not+
[15:26] <SporkWitch> it's a guest account, of course it's locked down...
[15:42] <Gnjurac> hi what addon i need for virtualbox to enable it run Windows in higher resolution
[15:43] <Gnjurac> atm am forced to use 1024 and it sux , and it double sux cuz i need Windows at all xD
[15:44] <Gnjurac> i asked on #virtualbox but they told me they wont support forked version , so i would need to redownload from their site so i am asking here before i get trought all hasle
[15:44] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: you probably just need to install guest additions.
[15:45] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: just the guest additions, same as every other OS running in virtualbox; though if you're on linux i'd just use qemu-kvm (toss in virtmanager if you need a GUI to set up / start things)
[15:46] <Gnjurac> yep but when i search guest addons whit apt search they show me like 20 guest addons
[15:47] <Gnjurac> is quemu-kvm better perfomace then vb?
[15:47] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: that's not how you install them; read the virtualbox documentation (or the giant messages on the screen)
[15:48] <Gnjurac> i knada read virtual box manual i think i am blind then
[15:48] <Gnjurac> and for what are those guest addons in apt search if not for vb?
[15:48] <SporkWitch> ask google or #virtualbox
[15:49] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: they ones on apt are alternative ways to install the guest additions on ubuntu guests (VMs)
[15:49] <Gnjurac> dont you think i would , they all say i need to install guest addons iso in installed mashein but from where to get that iso
[15:50] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: have you considered READING instead of SKIMMING?
[15:50] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: since you run windows in your VM, you'll use the menu to mount the guest additions iso into the VM and install this way. as documented.
[15:50] <SporkWitch> you'd have to be actively trying not to get step-by-step instructions in the first search result
[15:50] <Gnjurac> ye but how to get that guest additions iso
[15:51] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: it was downloaded and put in place when you installed virtualbox.
[15:51] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: 3FNZkgMv3pKXACABScQK9CM6R6Tgk2HJn9 send bitcoin if you're looking to hire someone to do it all for you; your question has been answered, and would be answered in the first result of any search on the topic
[15:53] <Gnjurac> Dosent exits >> /opt/VirtualBox/
[15:53] <Gnjurac> guess will need to dig down /usr/
[15:54]  * SporkWitch facedesks
[15:54] <Gnjurac> in /usr/share/virtualbox/ there is no iso file
[15:55] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: BTC or #virtualbox
[15:55] <Gnjurac> virtualbox wont support me cuz unbuntu forked version of vb
[15:56] <SporkWitch> so install the real version; you won't be any worse off, since you won't read the instructions
[15:56] <Gnjurac> dont have any BTC , but can lure you whit cash if close
[15:56] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: it's still not a ubuntu problem; it's not even a virtualbox problem, it's a user problem
[15:56] <Gnjurac> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html
[15:57] <Gnjurac> In the Virtual Media Manager, press the "Add" button and browse your host file system for the VBoxGuestAdditions.iso file:
[15:57] <Gnjurac> On a Linux host, you can find this file in the additions folder under where you installed VirtualBox (normally /opt/VirtualBox/).
[15:57] <Gnjurac> am i blind or what?
[15:57] <compdoc> always varied from linux to linux. just seach for it
[15:58] <Gnjurac> https://askubuntu.com/questions/540526/where-is-the-virtualbox-installation-folder-on-ubuntu
[15:58] <Gnjurac> here it says it should be in usr/share
[15:58] <Gnjurac> */usr/share/virtualbox/
[15:58] <Gnjurac> but i dont have any iso there
[15:59]  * SporkWitch waits for BTC
[15:59] <compdoc> open a term window. type: sudo updatedb, then type: locate virtualbox, and locate Virtualbox
[15:59] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: you dont even need to find the iso file. all you need to do is to start your guest vm and select the last option from the 'devices' menu
[16:00] <SporkWitch> ssssshhh, don't say things like that, it's only the very first sentence in that section of the documentation, clearly it's a secret
[16:00] <Gnjurac> tomreyn: ty you are god, it say coudent find iso but offer me to download
[16:01] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: next time read the instructions
[16:02] <Gnjurac> SporkWitch:  i would beat the crap of you if you were close
[16:02] <Gnjurac> :)
[16:03] <SporkWitch> Gnjurac: not likely, i could give you the address and if the last 15 minutes are any indication, you wouldn't even find your way out of your basement
[16:03] <Gnjurac> SporkWitch:  ty for you help you are really a nice person :)
[16:04] <zezuz> !new Richard Paul Evans - [Michael Vey 07] - The Final Spark (epub).rar     ---------------- 2.12 MB
[16:04]  * SporkWitch smells piracy
[16:04] <tomreyn> zezuz: no warez here.
[16:24] <infandum`> How can I remote login from gdm?
[16:24] <infandum`> I can remote access the computer when past gdm, but when turning on the computer I'm stuck at gdm without a connection.
[16:25] <infandum`> Using vino
[16:25] <compdoc> the ubuntu desktop?
[16:25] <infandum`> gnome
[16:25] <compdoc> the ubuntu desktop is gnome now
[16:25] <infandum`> it's a pure gnome, but yes
[16:26] <compdoc> I use x2go, but doesnt work with 3d desktops. nothing does
[16:26] <infandum`> I can use vino to access the desktop, no issue there, the issue is actually getting into it from the login screen
[16:26] <infandum`> I need some way to use vino to log in
[16:27] <compdoc> vino works if someone is logged intothe console
[16:27] <infandum`> I tried this, but it doesn't work
[16:27] <infandum`> http://www.jakeyoon.com/2008/11/19/enable-vino-vnc-server-for-login-manager-gdm-in-ubuntu/
[16:28] <compdoc> 2008
[16:29] <infandum`> It worked in 2013 as well apparently
[16:36] <tomreyn> infandum`: i haven't tried recently but xvnc server / x11vnc should work. you'd get your own session though, not share the one the local user gets to see. if you want to share the same session with a local user you may need to enable automatic login. maybe xdm would also work.
[16:36] <infandum`> I need the local session
[16:41] <tomreyn> infandum`: actually x11vnc is for sharing, i got this wrong.
[16:42] <tomreyn> if this is gnome 3, look at troubleshooting #3 here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X11vnc#Troubleshooting
[16:43] <infandum`> I'm going to keep trying with vino first I think
[17:04] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[17:05] <yellabs-r2> i get this black overlay instead of my wallpaper, what could be the cause of this >? any tips are welcome
[17:05] <yellabs-r2> 18.04 LTS
[17:07] <SporkWitch> if it's KDE, i've seen that sometimes if plasma doesn't start properly
[17:07] <SporkWitch> not sure in gnome
[17:08] <yellabs-r2> yeah its gnome ...
[17:08] <yellabs-r2> ;)
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> found it , thanks
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> for your time ;)
[17:33] <samsonait[m]> Anybody tried Freeoffice? http://www.freeoffice.com/en/freeoffice
[17:35] <SporkWitch> !ask | samsonait[m]
[17:37] <FR13END> help
[17:38] <SporkWitch> !ask | FR13END
[18:07] <svetlyi> hi
[18:07] <tomreyn> hi svetlyi
[18:07] <svetlyi> How do you keep up with recent updates and at the same time have your life, relationship and so on?
[18:07] <tomreyn> ubuntu updates?
[18:08] <svetlyi> :D
[18:08] <hggdh> ...
[18:08] <tomreyn> just use update-manager
[18:08] <svetlyi> noo, i mean programming
[18:08] <tomreyn> then you're off-topic
[18:08] <svetlyi> :(
[18:08] <tomreyn> we only do ubuntu support here
[18:08] <tomreyn> !ot | svetlyi
[18:08] <svetlyi> where is the off topic chat? :D
[18:09] <jeremy31> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <svetlyi> muchas gracias
[18:14] <comodore64> hello wordl
[18:15] <comodore64> world
[18:16] <tomreyn> hello childhood
[18:18] <memphisto> printf("hello world");
[18:30] <comodore64> heyy sarumann
[18:30] <transhuman> is there a way to open .app files in ubuntu?
[18:31] <SporkWitch> https://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=open+.app+files+in+ubuntu
[18:34] <SporkWitch> transhuman: so assuming you mean Mac .app files, there's something called "Darling" that's similar to WINE; manual compilation required.
[18:44] <guru> i'm installing ubuntu server it resolves my ip @ 192.168.1.204 and my ipv6 as well but i keep getting network configuration timed out please verify your settings
[18:44] <guru> if i use a live cd i can browse the internet just fine
[18:45] <SporkWitch> guru: sounds like a DHCP issue; it probably is using that IP because it's cached somehow
[18:45] <guru> if i set everything to do not use i still cant advance
[18:45] <guru> ah
[18:45] <transhuman> thanks SporkWitch
[18:45] <transhuman> I thought it might have to do with ubuntu apps not macs, that's why the confusion
[18:45] <SporkWitch> transhuman: ubuntu uses snap and deb
[18:53] <system16> hi. i just watched a utube video about dual booting win 10 and ubuntu. its a simple process btw. that guy said i need to turn off fast startup. and i dont want to do this because it takes only 29 sec for me to log into windows and thats awesome. what should i do ?
[18:53] <SporkWitch> system16: fast startup works by NOT shutting down the computer, but doing a suspend to disk.  As a result, booting into another OS can corrupt things.
[18:54] <system16> is there a way around ?
[18:54] <SporkWitch> system16: disabling fast startup, so that shutting down windows actually shuts it down
[18:54] <transhuman> SporkWitch, ah thanks they're called snaps, I forgot, not used to this new Ubuntu subsystem
[18:54] <system16> so this is my only option ?
[18:55] <SporkWitch> system16: if you keep all the linux stuff _completely_ segregated, you might be okay, but again, it's not recommended.
[18:55] <system16> what about this. forget dualbooting. what about installing ubuntu on a usb drive ?
[18:55] <syb0rg> system16, one thing you could do is install your linux bootloader to a thumb drive, and then only plug that into your pc when booting to linux
[18:56] <SporkWitch> system16: assuming the windows directory is on an SSD, even with fast startup disabled, boot times should be sufficiently low as not to be too much of a bother
[18:56] <system16> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7400  @ 2.80GHz (2.80GHz) • Memory: 3.0 GiB Total (1.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 180.1 GiB / 268.8 GiB (88.7 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT • Uptime: 12h 30m 59s
[18:56] <syb0rg> as far as I know, the main issue Windows has is that it messes with grub/the efi partition or MBR, right?
[18:56] <SporkWitch> system16: that's also perfectly viable, if you've got a big enough one to be useful
[18:56] <system16> ^^thats y i need fastboot :)
[18:56] <system16> how can i do that ?
[18:56] <syb0rg> how do you install your bootloader to a thumb drive system16?
[18:56] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: it'll mess with the MBR sometimes, definitely; i've heard of it messing with non-windows stuff on the EFI partition (which it _shouldn't_ do, but this is MSFT we're talking about)
[18:57] <system16> idk syb0rg
[18:57] <syb0rg> no I was verifying that was your question system16
[18:57] <system16> guys, i know NOTHING about linux. thats y i want to install it,\.
[18:57] <syb0rg> doing so isn't hard. I would just create a fat32 partition for your esp and make the remaining space an ext2 partition for /boot
[18:58] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: no, he's talking about "fast startup" which is a windows8 and later thing.  It works by a combination of moving some of the boot processes to AFTER user login (so it _seems_ to start up faster, since you get the login screen sooner), and also by NOT doing a real shut down when you hit shutdown, but instead suspending to disk
[18:58] <system16> plz speak English
[18:58] <system16> whats esp
[18:58] <SporkWitch> system16: don't tell people to speak English and then use text speak like "plz" and "y"
[18:58] <syb0rg> I know SporkWitch, I was mentioning a way to hopefully avoid issues
[18:59] <syb0rg> I'm not sure if he is interested in trying that since he commuinicates poorly
[18:59] <oerheks> even with ubuntu on usb, you would need to disable fastboot
[18:59] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: looks like he's fine just making a persistent USB; that'd be the easiest and safest solution if he's insistent on not disabling fastboot
[18:59] <system16> so there is no way around ?
[19:00] <oerheks> no
[19:00] <trammell> perhaps explore having a separate partition for data that would be commonly accessed by both linux and windows
[19:00] <SporkWitch> oerheks: as long as none of the windows partitions get mounted it should be fine, no?
[19:00] <SporkWitch> oerheks: the concern, after all, is corrupting the data for resuming from the suspend-to-disk windows does
[19:00] <syb0rg> yeah, it should as far as I know. Windows messes with the state of the EFI partition when using fast boot, right? So if you have a different efi partition on a separate disk for ubuntu it should not be an issue
[19:00] <lesshaste> in chrome, when I open a pdf it is in "continuous" mode. How can I view one page at a time?
[19:01] <oerheks> again, no.
[19:01] <guru> SporkWitch: I went through the installer again after rebooting and had no issues. This happened after wiping the partition table so I can't imagine anything being cached
[19:01] <syb0rg> ok oerheks please explain
[19:01] <SporkWitch> lesshaste: #chromium
[19:01] <guru> either way I'm good as new thanks :P
[19:01] <oerheks> syb0rg, just read the uefi wiki
[19:01] <oerheks> !uefi
[19:01] <SporkWitch> guru: odd; sounds like something failed / got missed
[19:01] <system16> so i need to turn off fastboot even when installing ubuntu on a different hard drive ?
[19:02] <oerheks> .. try without disabling fastboot, and let us know :-D
[19:02] <guru> SporkWitch: one last question sorry, I just typed free -m looks like ubuntu server automatically creates swap? That's a nice out of the box feature
[19:03] <SporkWitch> guru: not just server; ubuntu and its derivatives include a swap partition as part of the automatic partitioning, unless you do manual and choose not to use swap
[19:03] <lesshaste> SporkWitch, sadly #chromium-support is mostly dead
[19:03] <guru> SporkWitch: thank you for the information :)
[19:03] <ioria> swap file maybe
[19:03] <SporkWitch> lesshaste: the topical channel being dead doesn't make it topical somewhere else
[19:03] <lesshaste> SporkWitch, or even tropical :)
[19:05] <system16> i think the best option (for me) is to install ubuntu on a usb drive. if i do this i can run ubuntu on any pc right ?
[19:05] <zetheroo> what controls the DNS in web browsers in Ubuntu?
[19:06] <syb0rg> that much I can verify system16. I was also trying to explain that you could install ubuntu to your computer, but have your boot partition and an efi partition on a usb drive
[19:06] <syb0rg> that would require a bit more effort, however.
[19:06] <ioria> system16, you might  have some issues on a given hw, but yes
[19:06] <zetheroo> when I am connected to my company's VPN (openvopn)  I can ping 'hostname' in the terminal and it will resolve to 'hostname.local', but in the browsers this doesn't happen - the web browsers fail to resolve the hostnames
[19:07] <SporkWitch> oerheks: i'm not seeing anything in the linked article that even mentions fast startup or concerns with it for dual-boots.  The askubuntu link referenced in the article also only raises the suspend-to-disk concerns i mentions, without any information beyond "make sure you always shut it down for real"
[19:07] <system16> syb0rg, umm thats too complicated for me. (because im not sure what is efi. )
[19:08] <SporkWitch> !resolv.conf | zetheroo
[19:08] <syb0rg> system16, do you know what partitions are?
[19:08] <system16> yes
[19:08] <system16> like c d e f etc.
[19:09] <syb0rg> yeah system16, in windows anyway
[19:09] <SporkWitch> system16: UEFI replaced BIOS. Rather than an MBR at the start of the drive, it uses a dedicated EFI partition to store things like bootloaders and associated software
[19:09] <syb0rg> so the approach I am describing works this way: You create an ext4 partition on your hard drive, and one fat32 partition of 600Mb and an ext2 partition of like a gig or two on the thumb drive.
[19:09] <system16> this pc uses bios since it clearly says bios setup
[19:09] <syb0rg> ok, sure
[19:09] <zetheroo> SporkWitch: in my resolv.conf all I have as nameserver is: nameserver 127.0.0.53
[19:09] <SporkWitch> system16: windows and linux can share the same EFI system partition "without issue" (as mentioned previously, windows is kind of a bad roommate, and sometimes it overwrites things that aren't windows to mess with you)
[19:10] <system16> well looks like the easiest way is to dualboot .
[19:10] <syb0rg> Then you don't need to create the fat32 partition
[19:10] <zetheroo> SporkWitch: and apparently one should not edit the resolv.conf file anymore ... :/
[19:11] <zutat> hello. how can i customize the gnome applications "menu". it's currently not displaying all applications and truncating longer names
[19:11] <SporkWitch> system16: as long as you don't mount the windows partitions, you shouldn't need to worry about fast startup
[19:11] <syb0rg> then in the installer you would tell ubuntu to use manual partitioning. Tell it to install the bootloader to your thumb drive, and mount the ext2 partition as /boot and the ext4 partition as /
[19:11] <SporkWitch> system16: that said, it _is_ recommended, so don't come crying if windows whinges the next time you boot it
[19:11] <ioria> system16, usually it automount the win partition
[19:11] <ioria> *s
[19:11] <oerheks> edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base >>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-include-lines-in-resolv-conf-that-wont-get-lost-on-reboot/157192
[19:11] <SporkWitch> ioria: ubuntu automounts NTFS partitions r/w? O.o
[19:12] <SporkWitch> ioria: kubuntu doesn't...
[19:12] <syb0rg> those are the only extra steps, and it allows you to have a separate bootloader for linux that you remove when not in linux, so that windows cannot mess with it
[19:12] <ioria> SporkWitch, yep, under /media
[19:12] <syb0rg> and you still install to your hard drive
[19:12] <SporkWitch> it'll _let_ you if you click the partition in your file manager, but it doesn't mount it by default...
[19:12] <ioria> SporkWitch, right
[19:13] <system16> ok then. i will disable fastboot since there is no other option. (btw can i uninstall ubuntu if i disliked it in the future ?)
[19:13] <syb0rg> and you still want to disable windows fast startup like oerheks was saying, otherwise you might have issues when trying to mess with windows files from in linux
[19:13] <syb0rg> at least that is the reason I am seeing
[19:13] <syb0rg> of course you can remove ubuntu system16
[19:13] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: yeah, the concern is messing with the state, since it does a suspend to disk.  If you mount read-only, it should be fine (or don't mount at all)
[19:14] <system16> syb0rg, i mean will it mess with my windows files after i uninstall it ?
[19:14] <SporkWitch> system16: no
[19:14] <SporkWitch> system16: separate partitions
[19:14] <syb0rg> no system16, not if you don't mess up anyway =P
[19:14] <system16> oh and one of my drives is encrypted. this wont create an issue right ?
[19:15] <SporkWitch> system16: depends on the how; it'll complicate things if you're planning to access it
[19:15] <system16> nope
[19:15] <syb0rg> no, that doesn't matter. Also system16, if you want to get more familiar with this stuff before messing with your machine it would be fine to just install to thumb drive for now and try something else later
[19:15] <SporkWitch> system16: you might also just start with a VM
[19:16] <system16> VM is too slow
[19:16] <syb0rg> yeah VM is a solid idea
[19:16] <syb0rg> system16, do you have the virtualization options enable in your bios?
[19:16] <system16> i tried that before but its too slow.
[19:16] <system16> yes
[19:16] <syb0rg> is it an old machine or something?
[19:16] <Ctrl_Null> anyone run openvpn / private internet access only via console?
[19:16] <SporkWitch> system16: if your computer is crap, it can be; that said, it's ideal for trying out different distros to see if you _want_ to put the effort in to install it
[19:16] <system16> not on this pos. on my other laptop
[19:16] <syb0rg> yes Ctrl_Null
[19:16] <SporkWitch> Ctrl_Null: If you have a question, just ask example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later.
[19:17] <syb0rg> Ctrl_Null, if you use xubuntu it might run better than distros with a heavier DE
[19:17] <syb0rg> *desktop environment
[19:17] <system16> my laptop has a core i7 and 8 gb of ram but this pos runs faster than my laptop for some reason
[19:17] <syb0rg> oops system16 rather
[19:18] <Ctrl_Null> trying to find a docs to install and run pia on ubuntu server with no luck. zero documentation/guides under ubuntu community and pia
[19:18] <syb0rg> lol system16, if an ubuntu vm was running slowly with an i7 and 8GB of RAM something is up
[19:18] <Ctrl_Null> no DE/UI
[19:18] <syb0rg> Ctrl_Null, don't install PIA
[19:18] <syb0rg> jsut download the ovpn files
[19:18] <syb0rg> and use openvpn directly
[19:18] <Ctrl_Null> ok
[19:19] <system16> this pc is like a lab mouse for me]
[19:19] <Ctrl_Null> before anyone says it > im waiting on my new server chassis for vpn > my pfsense box
[19:19] <syb0rg> the command is this: openvpn --config [configuration.ovpn] --auth-user-pass [text file with username on line 1, password on line 2]
[19:19] <Ctrl_Null> thanks syb0rg
[19:19] <syb0rg> np
[19:19] <syb0rg> and if you want a "killswitch" use ufw
[19:20] <system16> syb0rg, animations were laggy
[19:20] <Ctrl_Null> ok ill look into leaking docs :)
[19:20] <syb0rg> system16, did you install the guest additions and try enabling 3D accel?
[19:21] <system16> yes i think so
[19:21] <syb0rg> I assume the machine has integrated graphics?
[19:21] <system16> no
[19:21] <system16> a nvidia 940m
[19:22] <syb0rg> ok, that machine can *definitely* run an ubuntu VM just fine
[19:22] <syb0rg> something was configured wrong
[19:22] <SporkWitch> yeah, the PEBCAK
[19:22] <system16> linux mint mate runs fine on it tho
[19:24] <transhuman> SporkWitch, darling is absolutely huge, I have been compiling for a half an hour and am only at 20 percent!
[19:24] <system16> anyway, can u give me a link to an article or a video about installing ubuntu on a usb stick ?
[19:24] <SporkWitch> transhuman: good luck
[19:24] <ioria> darling ?
[19:24] <transhuman> thanks
[19:24] <transhuman> mac apps on linux ioria
[19:24] <SporkWitch> transhuman: depending on settings, it might only be using one core to compile, which would slow it down, heh
[19:24] <SporkWitch> ioria: basically WINE, but for mac apps
[19:24] <ioria> transhuman, yes, i know what it is
[19:25] <transhuman> ah ok
[19:25] <ioria> transhuman,  but it's for console apps
[19:25] <peterandre> hi, i just upgraded my ubuntu to latest, now my gui is not starting automatically anymore i have to write startx
[19:25] <peterandre> how can i force it to auto start the gui at boot
[19:25] <humm8> Are there any Linux DE's which are compilable for macbooks too?
[19:25] <SporkWitch> peterandre: should be a systemd task
[19:26] <system16> btw is 30 GB enough for ubuntu ?
[19:26] <syb0rg> 30 GB is plenty
[19:26] <SporkWitch> system16: 20GB recommended, 30 should be fine
[19:26] <peterandre> i see
[19:26] <peterandre> i need to configure systemd ?
[19:27] <system16> ok im going to dualboot. what could possibly go wrong ? :)
[19:27] <ioria> system16, on nstick is very slow ... why don't you install on usb hw ? it's ok
[19:27] <syb0rg> ok gl have fun system16
[19:27] <transhuman> ah ioria I see, thats not going to work for me then
[19:27] <ioria> transhuman,  yes, leave it
[19:28] <ioria> system16, a lot of things
[19:29] <system16> like what ioria ? that guy on utube installed ubuntu in 12 min
[19:29] <syb0rg> -.-
[19:29] <SporkWitch> system16: you made an overly broad statement; you got a facetious response
[19:29] <ioria> system16, updates, grub, and stuff,but if you wish ...
[19:30] <system16> oh
[19:31] <system16> ok im gonna run some tests . bye for now
[19:31] <i7ch> hello people. i have this weird and VERY annoying bug with (x)ubuntu and firefox: each time the laptop is unplugged and running on battery, firefox playback is starting to shutter (both video and / audio). any tips on how I might approach this? thanks!
[19:31] <SporkWitch> i7ch: power save performance settings
[19:32] <Ctrl_Null> syb0rg pia has doc to figure out open > pia burried down. guess they just push router based users / gui
[19:32] <Ctrl_Null> thanks again
[19:32] <i7ch> SporkWitch, it only happens for firefox. chromium is not affected, under the same conditions. that was the 1st thing i though about .. \
[19:33] <SporkWitch> i7ch: it's the only thing that would apply
[19:33] <i7ch> mhm
[19:33] <SporkWitch> i7ch: firefox has no way of knowing or reason to care if it's on battery or not
[19:33] <syb0rg> yup np Ctrl_Null
[19:34] <i7ch> well, i'm thinking if chromium can work just fine while laptop is on battery, why not firefox
[19:34] <i7ch> also, was not alway like this. it started to happen after an update ..
[19:34] <i7ch> hmm. i'll try my luck asking in firefox support also ..
[19:34] <zetheroo> does anyone know for the Routes area of the openvpn configuration tool in Network Manager is supposed to be filled out?
[19:34] <ioria> i7ch, update of ff or kernel ?
[19:35] <i7ch> ioria, sorry? update what?
[19:35] <i7ch> ah, FF = firefox
[19:35] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, firefox does have a way of knowing actually, there is an API that exposes your battery's charge through javascript
[19:35] <i7ch> i'm at the latest availabe on repose
[19:35] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i stand corrected...
[19:35] <i7ch> running 16.0.4.4
[19:35] <SporkWitch> i7ch: he asked which
[19:35] <SporkWitch> i7ch: which was updated that seems to have triggered the change
[19:36] <oerheks> zetheroo, likely your VPN provider does
[19:36] <i7ch> ah, that
[19:36] <i7ch> well, i don't know. i did a dist-upgrade ..
[19:36] <i7ch> and before, i had no reason to check version of either ..
[19:36] <zetheroo> oerheks: is there no way to find out from route -n etc?
[19:36] <i7ch> could be either of them ..
[19:37] <i7ch> *both ?
[19:37] <transhuman> anyone able to tell me the most advanced text video overlay software for linux available, I have tried openshot and a couple of others but not really happy with the overlay choices
[19:37] <system16> ok so it took 1 min and 11 sec for windows to start without fastboot and it took 28 sec for windows to start
[19:38] <zetheroo> oerheks: it's my company VPN connection - it's connecting, but I cannot browse any of the internal sites like wiki's, intranet etc ...
[19:38] <i7ch> i'm thinking maybe FF is using a different video decoding than chromium. and while on battery, performance is affected ?
[19:38] <SporkWitch> zetheroo: you need to opint your DNS to the company DNS
[19:38] <system16> so option 1 and 2 is out (dualboot and ubuntu on a stick) my only  option is VM
[19:38] <zetheroo> SporkWitch: I already added the company DNS ip to resolv.conf - still not working
[19:39] <system16> i need to somehow make it run faster.
[19:39] <SporkWitch> zetheroo: you're using networkmanager; set it there
[19:40] <SporkWitch> system16: are you playing video games on this computer?  if not, why do you need windows?  why do you need linux?
[19:40] <system16> i play games on my ps4
[19:40] <system16> i use windows for my everyday tasks
[19:40] <SporkWitch> system16: so then what is your goal here? what is it you're trying to achieve with linux?
[19:41] <system16> and i wanna install linux because i hate not knowing about something i like
[19:41] <system16> for educational purposes
[19:41] <SporkWitch> system16: if that's all you want, then a VM is ideal
[19:42] <system16> yeah. do u know how can i make it run faster ?
[19:42] <tomreyn> system16: you won't really get to know it until you run it as your main system, though. still, running in a VM can be a good start if you'll actually remind yourself to use it.
[19:42] <SporkWitch> throw more resources at it; make sure to install guest additions
[19:43] <system16> my core i7 is dual core is it because of this ?
[19:43] <Edisto> if I am constantly experiencing random crashes on ubuntu, would switching flavors possibly make a difference?
[19:43] <SporkWitch> they make i7's that are only two cores? O.o
[19:44] <system16> +2 virtual cores
[19:44] <SporkWitch> Edisto: depends what is causing the crashes
[19:44] <Edisto> SporkWitch: That I am not sure. It is so random. Sometimes it is twice a day. Sometimes it's 5 times a day. Every app. Like a reverb static freeze
[19:45] <syb0rg> system16, also try a different DE than default ubuntu
[19:45] <system16> mint ?
[19:45] <syb0rg> no... that is a different distro.
[19:45] <syb0rg> try a "flavor" of ubuntu, xubuntu is really snappy
[19:46] <system16> *noted
[19:46] <syb0rg> and kubuntu is probably somewhere in between and prettier
[19:46] <zetheroo> SporkWitch: still really not working - I can resolve the hostnames in the terminal, but the browsers are not working
[19:46] <system16> which one is prettier ? xubuntu or the default de ?
[19:46] <syb0rg> system16, I think default is prettier but still prefer xubuntu
[19:47] <syb0rg> and I think kubuntu is prettier than default
[19:47] <system16> how can i get this xubuntu ? app store ?
[19:47] <Edisto> system16: I am thinking of trying xubuntu or ubuntu mate
[19:47] <syb0rg> nah you download the xubuntu iso
[19:48] <ioria> system16,  lscpu | grep 'Model name'
[19:48] <system16> oh . from ubuntu.com ?
[19:48] <syb0rg> https://xubuntu.org/download
[19:48] <system16> what does that do ioria ?
[19:48] <ioria> system16,  your cpu
[19:48] <humm8> syb0rg: are there any DE's which work just as well under mac as under Linux?
[19:49] <syb0rg> no clue humm8
[19:49] <syb0rg> probably not is my guess
[19:49] <humm8> :)
[19:50] <system16> ioria, :-bash: lscpu: command not found
[19:50] <SporkWitch> humm8: #apple (also, apple doesn't like you doing things your own way, so almost certainly no)
[19:50] <ioria> system16,  weird
[19:50] <system16> i ran that command in cygwin btw
[19:50] <ioria> system16,  lol
[19:51] <system16> its a terminal emulator
[19:51] <ioria> it's a linux emulator
[19:51] <SporkWitch> we know what cygwin is; much like WSL, it doesn't work how you think it works lol
[19:52] <system16> i only use it to ssh into my file serevr.
[19:52] <system16> server*
[19:52] <system16> ii should download this ? xubuntu-18.04-desktop-i386.iso
[19:52] <SporkWitch> if it's 32bit
[19:52] <system16> or the one that has amd64 ?
[19:53] <syb0rg> probably AMD64, but as SporkWitch said that depends on your machine
[19:53] <SporkWitch> x86 == 32bit, AMD64/x86_64 == 64bit
[19:53] <system16> xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:54] <syb0rg> if you have a 64 bit machine you want that one system16
[19:54] <syb0rg> if you don't know what kind you have, check first
[19:54] <system16> btw that index thing wasnt noob friendly :)
[19:54] <syb0rg> how much RAM does this machine have
[19:54] <system16> i want to run it in a vm
[19:54] <system16> i have cbox on my laptop
[19:55] <system16> vbox*
[19:55]  * SporkWitch offers syb0rg a pair of pliars to help pull those teeth
[19:55] <syb0rg> system16, if you have a 32 bit machine it cannot run a 64 bit vm
[19:55] <syb0rg> so it still matters
[19:56] <system16> its a 64 bit machine
[19:56] <system16> lol
[19:56] <syb0rg> then get the 64 bit image
[19:56] <syb0rg> hey the pliars worked SporkWitch!
[19:56] <system16> downloading
[19:56] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: :)
[19:57] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i offered a thumbscrews to a customer once, after restarting their network hardware fixed the issue and her netadmin was _still_ insisting i had to have done something, because it wasn't an issue on their side lol
[19:57] <SporkWitch> s/a//
[19:57] <syb0rg> lol
[19:58] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: you don't understand, we were troubleshooting for about 3 or 4 hours, and because we don't run their network, i have to qualify the recommendation to reboot stuff with "you can try this, but I'm not saying you should; if things weren't properly saved, it may revert to an old configuration that can break things"
[19:59] <system16> btw is there a book or something about how to get started in linux ? (i have worked on linux before so i know a bit about it)
[19:59] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i'm not sure that netadmin is employed there any more after all that lol
[19:59] <syb0rg> sounds painful SporkWitch
[19:59] <syb0rg> system16, there are lots of books. You can also just poke around and read wikis/tutorials when you get stuck
[19:59] <SporkWitch> system16: http://www.admin.com/
[19:59] <syb0rg> and pester IRC channels of course =D
[20:00] <oerheks> do not touch man pages
[20:00] <SporkWitch> system16: recommended reading before going the "pester IRC" route: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[20:00] <system16> thanks
[20:00] <oerheks> read any blog, skip the official ones
[20:01] <system16> lol
[20:01] <syb0rg> or do touch man pages, but only to do a search for a specific thing
[20:02] <syb0rg> I think the next release of man will display an ascii representation of the gates of hell inscribed with "abandon all hope, ye who enter here" at the top of all documents
[20:03] <SporkWitch> i will never understand the hatred of manpages; while some are less than amazing, in general, they're extremely helpful and follow a nice standard layout for ease of understanding
[20:03] <syb0rg> they are dense material that isn't easy to read or conducive to quick answers
[20:04] <syb0rg> I will admit they are very useful at times and I am glad they exist
[20:04] <syb0rg> but I will still try google before man 99 times out of 100
[20:05] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: "what is this command?" manpage will tell you.  "what does this do?" manpage will tell you.  "can i do x with y?" manpage will _probably_ tell you, though it helps to know that it takes vi commands, e.g. / to search
[20:05] <trxmod21> tes
[20:06] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i always go to the manpage first; search results mean sifting through cruft and dead-ends
[20:06] <system16> wow u guys know so much about linux.can u hack ppl ?
[20:06] <syb0rg> I suppose you have a point SporkWitch.
[20:07] <syb0rg> Yes system16 but that is an analog process involving an axe
[20:07] <SporkWitch> system16: with the proper paperwork to cover my ass
[20:07] <system16> oh
[20:07] <system16> hackers worst nightmare : that tiny switch located on the back of ur pc
[20:08] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, for simple questions though I usually get several answers just from the sample text of various search results
[20:08] <SporkWitch> system16: that said, if you're interested in the security side, check out https://overthewire.org/wargames/ Their Bandit line is _very_ beginner, and is actually pretty useful just for learning bash itself, the security aspects are a bonus
[20:08] <system16> ok
[20:08] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: it does depend, and often those answers are _from_ the manpage.  And while you're right, they _can_ be dense, the best way to get used to and learn _how_ to read them is to, you guessed it, read them
[20:09] <syb0rg> but RTFMing is work ;)
[20:09] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: see the "smart questions" link i gave earlier :)
[20:09] <syb0rg> I wasn't asking a question you spork
[20:10] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: it's a really good read, and offers a lot of good information on how to help yourself, as well as form better questions that are more likely to get useful, relevant answers
[20:10] <syb0rg> also I have seen that floating around before
[20:10] <syb0rg> though you are the first person I have seen share it in the last few years
[20:10] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: if we could make more people read and follow it, we just might get September to finally end
[20:10] <syb0rg> lol
[20:15] <TheSilentLink> I'm in the gnome file manager but how do I see the full path and edit it? sorry for the stupid question
[20:15] <SporkWitch> TheSilentLink: i think you either left click or ctrl-click the area with the breadcrumbs?
[20:16] <kk4ewt> and look at the gnome-tweak-tool to add that extension or setting
[20:17] <strive> TheSilentLink: Try: ctrl+l
[20:17] <TheSilentLink> Thank you! ctrl +l works
[20:18] <strive> TheSilentLink: You could probably make it a habit in any type of file manager.
[20:19] <strive> TheSilentLink: I believe that shortcut works with web browsers as well.
[20:19] <TheSilentLink> yea use to use dolphin (kde manager) and there you just double click the top bar but that doesn't work here
[20:19] <syb0rg> it sure does strive, that is a really useful shortcut. Thanks for sharing
[20:20] <strive> syb0rg: Happy to help. :)
[20:21] <SporkWitch> TheSilentLink: get ready for misery; gnome / GTK is _not_ fun after the sanity and control that is KDE lol
[20:21]  * SporkWitch grumbles at mozilla team to go back to the old filepicker instead of the horrifically bad GTK one...
[20:22] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, I booted to ubuntu 18.04 vanilla to see how their variant of GNOME was, and it froze within two minutes of use
[20:22] <syb0rg> on powerful, well supported hardware
[20:22] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: gotta love gnome lol
[20:23] <syb0rg> maybe I'll try again in the mid 2020s lol
[20:27] <vfw> syb0rg: Updates?
[20:28] <TheSilentLink> SporkWitch: well at least for me kde was very buggy on my nvidia card so moved to budgie
[20:29] <syb0rg> vfw, pardon me?
[20:29] <vfw> syb0rg: Did you do updates?
[20:30] <syb0rg> on the live ubuntu? No.
[20:30] <syb0rg> But 18.04 just came out
[20:30] <vfw> syb0rg: Oh, so you did not install?
[20:30] <syb0rg> nah I just wanted to check it out
[20:30] <syb0rg> I'm happy with plasma
[20:30] <vfw> oh, ok
[20:30] <vfw> cool
[20:31] <TheSilentLink> syb0rg: what card you got?
[20:31] <syb0rg> GTX 970
[20:31] <TheSilentLink> oh with the propitiatory drivers?
[20:31] <syb0rg> nah, live boots with nouveau right?
[20:31] <SporkWitch> don't use nouveau lol
[20:31] <syb0rg> I am using nouveau now, with no problems
[20:31] <TheSilentLink> nouveau is awful for 3d applications
[20:32] <TheSilentLink> eg gaming
[20:32] <syb0rg> I don't game on linux
[20:32] <syb0rg> most graphics intensive thing I do is play back 1080p video files =P
[20:33] <syb0rg> for gaming I boot to windows 10, on a separate drive, with a SATA switch to power up only the windows drive so it can't mess with linux
[20:33] <syb0rg> well I guess plasma is more graphics intensive than video playback
[20:33] <syb0rg> but it runs fine on nouveau in any case
[20:34] <SporkWitch> the binaries would provide much better performance
[20:34] <syb0rg> this is true SporkWitch, but I go with opensource options when they work well enough
[20:34] <syb0rg> if I wanted to game on linux I would go proprietary
[20:35] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: it'll probably result in fewer boots to windows; you'd be surprised how much stuff has native linux versions these days :)
[20:35] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: heck, tomb raider works flawlessly for me on linux, never crashed or hiccoughed once; 20 minutes on windows and CTD lol
[20:36] <syb0rg> yeah that's nice and all, but I have lots of games in my library that only run on windows
[20:36] <syb0rg> I wish steam had pushed steamos harder
[20:36] <syb0rg> that could have really changed things fast
[20:37] <SporkWitch> it's done a lot, and they do still push it; would be nice if they pushed harder though, agreed.  Vote with your wallet, it helps
[20:39] <syb0rg> What I would like to do is install windows in a vm with PCI passthrough for the GPU
[20:39] <syb0rg> but my mobo does not support that
[20:40] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: yeah, wanted to do that with my last desktop, bought the mobo a year too soon lol
[20:40] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: next build will be doing that.  plan is a threadripper, 16-32GB of RAM, can use the existing GTX1060 from the desktop that died and just add a second one for the pass-through
[20:41] <syb0rg> yeah that sounds like a slick setup. I'd go with the 32gb RAM, it is a very nice amount to have
[20:41] <syb0rg> especially since you are gonna have at least onevm
[20:41] <syb0rg> *one vm
[20:42] <SporkWitch> kind of how i'm leaning; though even with just 16, that's still 12GB for the guest, and without anything like firefox and whatnot eating up extra, just windows and the game
[20:43] <jeffrey_f> How do I move my /home folder(s) from my boot ssd to my secondary drive?
[20:43] <syb0rg> I am so spoiled with all this RAM: I run a separate VM clone for each separate task I am doing. So I have a vm for browsing, a vm running vlc, a vm for hexchat, a vm for whatever other task...
[20:44] <syb0rg> then I can save the state if I want to come back to it later
[20:44] <syb0rg> jeffrey_f, live boot to usb, then make your new partition, copy all your current /home/ files, and update fstab
[20:45] <syb0rg> probably want to remove the current /home files from your root partition before rebooting also
[20:46] <tomreyn> or just move everything
[20:46] <jeffrey_f> Thanks syb0rg.  Would you know if there is a script?
[20:46] <syb0rg> true enough, tomreyn
[20:46] <tomreyn> you could actually do it from the running system, but it can be more difficult
[20:46] <SporkWitch> ^
[20:46] <syb0rg> jeffrey_f, why would you need or want a script for this?
[20:47] <SporkWitch> not really more difficult, just extra steps
[20:47] <syb0rg> couldn't that introduce some problems with the state of files?
[20:48] <holonium> Hello
[20:48] <syb0rg> hi holonium
[20:48] <tomreyn> syb0rg: you'd need to make sure they'r enot currently being accessed, then it's not an issue.
[20:49] <holonium> I was wondering if anyone had any tips for migrating a technologically challenged user from Windows 10 to Ubuntu.
[20:49] <syb0rg> sounds like a slightly dangerous way to go about things
[20:49] <SporkWitch> holonium: point them at kubuntu; KDE, by default, looks and behaves like windows 7
[20:49] <syb0rg> holonium, play around in the live environment until you are somewhat comfortable with it
[20:49] <syb0rg> and read guides until you fully understand the process of switching your pc over to ubuntu before attempting it
[20:50] <syb0rg> or have them do it if you are talking about someone else
[20:50] <syb0rg> also kde is a good suggestion, or xubuntu/xfce4
[20:51] <SporkWitch> xfce is going to be a bit more of a learning curve
[20:51] <holonium> I have already been using Ubuntu for a couple of months. My mother is the sort of user that made a Windows 7 PC BSoD once a month for a year and got several hundred viruses on her computer.
[20:51] <syb0rg> really? Always thought it was pretty straightforward and similar to windows in how it functions
[20:51] <SporkWitch> also, most people react poorly to a lack of eyecandy, they associate simplicity with inferiority
[20:51] <syb0rg> that much is true SporkWitch
[20:52] <holonium> There is a reason I am not switching her to BSD or Fedora.
[20:52] <syb0rg> lol
[20:52] <holonium> And that is it.
[20:52] <syb0rg> get her on arch
[20:52] <syb0rg> and if she asks for help tell her to troubleshoot it first
[20:52] <oerheks> seems like you know enough then, holonium
[20:52] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: literally i've had people insisting win10 is better, just on screenshots, so i tossed in some of KDE using windows icons and window borders; suddenly they liked it (when presented as a windows example, rather than plasma's default "flat" appearance)
[20:53] <syb0rg> yeah, for someone who values appearance greatly I would probably not recommend xubuntu
[20:53] <SporkWitch> holonium: i'd go with kubuntu, then; it's basically the same as ubuntu just with the KDE stuff replacing the GTK stuff
[20:53] <holonium> If she troubleshoots anything, she nearly formats her HDD or gets some sort of virus or something like that.
[20:54] <oerheks> life is full of surprises
[20:54] <SporkWitch> holonium: software installation can be simplified as "launch this, it's just like the app / google play store"
[20:54] <jeffrey_f> syb0rg, nm about the script.
[20:55] <holonium> Is there a way to lock her out of the terminal?
[20:55] <syb0rg> jeffrey_f, ok. It is a process with only a few steps: if you get stuck or something just ask
[20:55] <SporkWitch> holonium: don't put her in the wheel group and she won't be able to damage anything tthat matters
[20:56] <syb0rg> can you install updates without sudo?
[20:56] <holonium> Ok. So make sure that she has access only to her home directory and is not a superuser, right?
[20:56] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: no, you would need to explicitly whitelist anything you wanted to let her use, but if she can install stuff, she can also click "yes" to removing critical things to resolve a conflict
[20:56] <holonium> Thanks.
[20:57] <SporkWitch> holonium: superuser isn't really a thing outside windows; you're either root or you're not.  sudo is a tool that allows you to run commands as another user (usually root).  It can be configured to allow members of a group to do anything, or only specific things (up to and including specific arguments on the commands)
[20:57] <syb0rg> he gone
[20:57] <jeffrey_f> holonium, Make her a regular user.  Install TeamViewer and set it up on her system and on yours so you can remote in at any time.  Downside to regular user is she can't install anything.
[20:57] <syb0rg> he still gone
[21:05] <Budgii> Hi all, I have a USB drive that isn't being recognized in the file explorer. any ideas on how to fix this? lsusb lists the drive.
[21:05] <syb0rg> Budgii, what is on this drive? Is it partitioned? What kind of partitions?
[21:06] <Budgii> its just a little usb storage device, no idea whats on it.
[21:06] <Budgii> its one i've had, i think its blank to be honest
[21:06] <SporkWitch> probably a single NTFS partition, then
[21:06] <Budgii> i did a data wipe on it about a month ago \
[21:06] <SporkWitch> or fat32
[21:06] <Budgii> might be
[21:06] <syb0rg> I bet if you format it in gparted it will show up afterwards in file manager
[21:06] <SporkWitch> define "data wipe"
[21:06] <Budgii> formated = data wipe
[21:06] <Budgii> lol
[21:06] <Budgii> thanks, i'll look for gparted.
[21:07] <syb0rg> if it still doesn't show up after formatting unplug and replug
[21:07] <Budgii> alright
[21:07] <Some_Person> What package is needed nowadays for gdebi's password prompts to work as expected? Right now, in this system, it asks for the password in the console, which isn't ideal. I suspect maybe gksu provided this in the past, but that seems to be gone now in bionic?
[21:07] <oerheks> unless it is exfat, then you will need 2 tools
[21:08] <Budgii> im going to backup a few files then get xubuntu
[21:08] <kostkon> Budgii, what have you got now
[21:08] <Budgii> kostkon, I have budgie. I'm hoping Xubuntu is a little bit more lightweight.
[21:08] <oerheks> Some_Person, why is "password in the console " not ideal, as you are in console already?
[21:09] <oerheks>  no need to grab the mouse
[21:09] <Budgii> I'm not even seeing this drive in gparted
[21:09] <kostkon> Budgii, might be just a little bit though
[21:09] <Some_Person> oerheks: Because if I'm downloading and opening a deb file from a browser, there's no console for me to type it into
[21:09] <Budgii> kostkon, yeah its just my machine will run fan on high when i have a java application running
[21:09] <oerheks> that would open in softwarecenter..
[21:10] <Budgii> other than that, it runs great
[21:10] <Budgii> maybe i'll just forget it for today
[21:10] <Some_Person> oerheks: I'm using ubuntu with MATE, not the default environment
[21:10] <Some_Person> and it is opening with gdebi
[21:11] <syb0rg> Budgii, then try from the commmand line with parteed
[21:11] <syb0rg> *parted
[21:11] <Budgii> syb0rg, what do i do?
[21:11] <syb0rg> first try parted /dev/sd[letter]
[21:11] <syb0rg> you said it shows up in lsusb right?
[21:11] <syb0rg> does it show up in lsblk?
[21:11] <syb0rg> hopefully it does...
[21:12] <Budgii> im not sure how to read lsblk, lol
[21:12] <syb0rg> so sd whatever is a drive
[21:12] <syb0rg> like sda for instance
[21:12] <Budgii> syb0rg, this is the device in lsusb: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0781:5583 SanDisk Corp.
[21:13] <syb0rg> budgii just pastebin your lsblk output
[21:14] <Budgii> syb0rg, i removed a few obvious unrelated apps: here it is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fW9hVG73kt/
[21:14] <syb0rg> how big is the usb drive?
[21:14] <Budgii> 64gb
[21:15] <syb0rg> and are there any other storage drives or disks in or attached to the computer?
[21:15] <syb0rg> other than your boot drive
[21:15] <Budgii> I mean there is a mouse and keyboard, hdmi and then the usb attached.
[21:15] <Budgii> is it sdb1?
[21:15] <syb0rg> ok, so your usb drive appears to be /dev/sdb
[21:15] <Budgii> alright
[21:15] <syb0rg> so to format it, do: sudo /dev/sdb
[21:16] <syb0rg> sorry
[21:16] <syb0rg> *sudo parted /dev/sdb
[21:16] <Budgii> okay, it opened GNU parted 3.2
[21:16] <Budgii> what do i want to run as the next command?
[21:16] <syb0rg> now type print
[21:16] <syb0rg> does it say that it is a 64 GB disk?
[21:17] <syb0rg> (this is just verification)
[21:17] <Budgii> Number  Start  End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
[21:17] <Budgii>  1      1024B  62.2GB  62.2GB  primary
[21:17] <syb0rg> ok, type mklabel
[21:17] <Budgii> 62 close enough :D
[21:17] <syb0rg> yup
[21:17] <syb0rg> then choose gpt
[21:18] <Budgii> what do i do for label? It didn't like SanDisk or Zebra
[21:18] <syb0rg> gpt
[21:18] <Budgii> sweet
[21:18] <Budgii> after yes, it says (parted)
[21:18] <syb0rg> so will this be a storage drive?
[21:18] <syb0rg> should it be accesible in windows as well as linux?
[21:19] <Budgii> I'm wanting to put some junk on it, then format my other one thats like 100+gb for Xubuntu
[21:19] <Budgii> No, just linux my friend
[21:19] <syb0rg> ok, now type mkpart and I will walk you through the options
[21:19] <Budgii> Partition name? []?
[21:19] <syb0rg> anything you want
[21:20] <Budgii> File system type?
[21:20] <leftyfb> syb0rg: you know there is gparted right?
[21:20] <syb0rg> ext4
[21:20] <Budgii> NTFS?
[21:20] <Budgii> o
[21:20] <syb0rg> it didn't work leftyfb for whatever reason, didn't see the drive
[21:20] <Budgii> crap. it said "Start?" i said yes
[21:20] <syb0rg> lol
[21:20] <syb0rg> that should be 0
[21:20] <Budgii> I'm at (parted) agai
[21:20] <syb0rg> ok
[21:20] <syb0rg> then start over with mkpart
[21:20] <Budgii> repeat previous steps? k
[21:21] <syb0rg> and for end it will be 100%
[21:21] <Budgii> type "100%" ?
[21:21] <syb0rg> yeah for end
[21:21] <Budgii> Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance. Ignore/cancel?
[21:22] <syb0rg> hmm, I hate when it does this. I would just ignore, honestly, unless someone else here has input
[21:22] <syb0rg> it can be annoying to figure out the ideal size
[21:22] <Budgii> meh idrk :D
[21:22] <Budgii> i just need a file(s)
[21:22] <Budgii> i'll say ignore
[21:22] <Budgii> I said ignore and i'm back to (parted) did I screw up?
[21:22] <syb0rg> nope
[21:23] <syb0rg> now type quit
[21:23] <syb0rg> then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[21:23] <syb0rg> make sure you get the letter b in there, not a
[21:23] <syb0rg> sd *b* 1, lol
[21:23] <Budgii> Writing superblocks and system corruption virus, continue?
[21:23] <Budgii> !!
[21:23] <Budgii> jk :D
[21:23] <syb0rg> lol
[21:24] <Budgii> it's done
[21:24] <syb0rg> cool, does it show up in file explorer yet?
[21:24] <Budgii> YUESSIR!
[21:24] <Budgii> YESSIR!
[21:24] <syb0rg> aw yeah
[21:24] <Budgii> Thank you!!
[21:24] <syb0rg> np
[21:24] <Budgii> how do you know this stuff? :D
[21:24] <syb0rg> magic!
[21:24] <syb0rg> or from experience
[21:24] <syb0rg> take your pick
[21:25] <Budgii> HAH
[21:25] <Budgii> So i'm trying to drag and drop some files and it says i don't have persmisions. is this going to be a chmod +x?
[21:25] <Budgii> I like the magi.
[21:26] <syb0rg> interesting. Do you have permission to access these files?
[21:26] <syb0rg> if you mounted the drive from file explorer you should have write access to it
[21:26] <Budgii> Yes I do. In Budgie, most things are set as .. like read? or something. So for .jar files i have to do chmod +x
[21:26] <syb0rg> for copying you don't need +x on the files
[21:27] <Budgii> hmm
[21:27] <syb0rg> get back in your terminal and do cd /media
[21:27] <syb0rg> then ls -l
[21:27] <syb0rg> oh sorry /media/yourUser
[21:27] <Budgii> the folder  "python" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to create it in the destination. Cancel|Skip|Retry
[21:27] <Budgii> okay
[21:28] <Budgii> says total 4 then some junk
[21:28] <syb0rg> I need to see the junk
[21:28] <syb0rg> pastebin time
[21:28] <Budgii> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun  3 15:23 08fda9b3-b197-423d-a33a-9eb777f90c25
[21:28] <Budgii> #risks my computers SSN
[21:28] <Budgii> :D
[21:28] <syb0rg> pssh
[21:29] <Budgii> lol. I have no idea what that numbre means..
[21:29] <syb0rg> ok is that the only line?
[21:29] <Budgii> yup
[21:29] <syb0rg> show me lsblk again please
[21:29] <syb0rg> as in, run it again
[21:29] <syb0rg> not the old output
[21:30] <Budgii> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3BXKKvzXqH/
[21:31] <syb0rg> so your user is alien, yes?
[21:31] <syb0rg> I'm asking because your username is relevant to the commands I am about to give you
[21:32] <syb0rg> not because I want your "computer's SSN" =P
[21:32] <syb0rg> assuming that is your username, you need to run: sudo chgrp alien /media/alien/08fda9b3-b197-423d-a33a-9eb777f90c
[21:33] <syb0rg> and sudo chown alien /media/alien/08fda9b3-b197-423d-a33a-9eb777f90c
[21:33] <Budgii> sorry, i was afk
[21:33] <Budgii> yes alien is the user :D
[21:33] <syb0rg> ok then there you go, run those two commands and it should work
[21:33] <Budgii> alien@Alien:~$ f90c': No such file or directory
[21:33] <Budgii> > No command 'chgrp:' found, did you mean:
[21:33] <Budgii> >  Command 'chgrp' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[21:33] <Budgii> > chgrp:: command not found
[21:33] <Budgii> >
[21:34] <syb0rg> whaa?
[21:34] <Budgii> chgrp: cannot access '/media/alien/08fda9b3-b197-423d-a33a-9eb777f90c': No such file or directory
[21:35] <Budgii> thats from the first command
[21:35] <mrlcassic> ping
[21:35] <syb0rg> pong
[21:35] <mrlcassic> hai
[21:35] <Budgii> hoi
[21:36] <Budgii> bai?
[21:36] <syb0rg> Budgii, can you ls -l /media/alien
[21:36] <syb0rg> tell me if the same junk shows up
[21:36] <mrlcassic> im from indonesia
[21:36] <Budgii> alien@Alien:~$ ls 0l /media/alien
[21:36] <Budgii> ls: cannot access '0l': No such file or directory
[21:36] <Budgii> 08fda9b3-b197-423d-a33a-9eb777f90c25
[21:36] <mrlcassic> and im newbie can you help me please..??
[21:36] <syb0rg> ls -l, not 0l. but it still worked
[21:36] <Budgii> i copied an pasted. that's wierd
[21:37] <Budgii> Should I change my identity now?
[21:37] <Budgii> ;xD
[21:37] <mrlcassic> hello
[21:37] <Budgii> *computer ssn*
[21:37] <syb0rg> very. I think something got messed up with the chgrp command, as well
[21:37] <Budgii> Hi mrlclassic
[21:37] <mrlcassic> hi budgii
[21:37] <syb0rg> so are you still in /media/alien, in the terminal?
[21:37] <Budgii> now I am
[21:38] <syb0rg> ok, this time no copy paste. Type "sudo chgrp alien " then press tab
[21:38] <syb0rg> the long string of numbers and such should pop up
[21:38] <syb0rg> if it does, hit enter.
[21:38] <Budgii> chgrp: missing operand after ‘alien’
[21:38] <syb0rg> did you type a space after alien, then press tab?
[21:39] <Budgii> bingo
[21:39] <syb0rg> cool
[21:39] <Budgii> thansk
[21:39] <syb0rg> now to the same thing, but with chown rather than chgrp
[21:39] <syb0rg> *do
[21:39] <Bashing-om> !ask mrlcassic
[21:39] <mrlcassic> can you tell me to hack someone people facebook??please
[21:39] <syb0rg> then it should work
[21:39] <Bashing-om> !ask | mrlcassic
[21:40] <Bashing-om> !hack | mrlcassic NO! ...
[21:40] <Budgii> Bingo!
[21:40] <Budgii> Thanks syb0rg!
[21:40] <syb0rg> cool Budgii glad it worked
[21:40] <Budgii> you rock man
[21:40] <Budgii> Im giving you a raise.
[21:40] <syb0rg> this is like a really high latency version of working in a console lol
[21:41] <Budgii> Latency is an understatement. Try USPS console session. :D
[21:41] <syb0rg> ok, now I am going afk for an indeterminate period of time
[21:41] <Budgii> Pencil terminal. HAHA
[21:41] <Budgii> Thanks again, take care!
[21:41] <syb0rg> you too
[21:41] <Budgii> =]\
[21:44] <djchicken> sup
[21:45] <Budgii> yoo
[21:45] <djchicken> what is this?
[21:45] <oerheks> time to read the topic perhaps?
[21:48] <RedPenguin> hello all
[21:49] <mrclassic> can someone help me please
[21:49] <mrclassic> :'(
[21:49] <RedPenguin> I am attempting to fix an issue where, I had a Networking Bridge setup between eth0 and eth1, but after a kernel update, the card eth1 is now enp3s6, acts like it's fiber vs Ethernet and now refuses to go in to bridge and acts like no Ethernet is plugged in
[21:50] <mrclassic> can someone help me please????
[21:51] <mrclassic> everybody can help me please???
[21:51] <mrclassic> i hope
[21:51] <hggdh> mrclassic: just state your problem
[21:51] <mrclassic> can we talking on private chat??
[21:52] <mrclassic> hello
[21:53] <oerheks> No, i have updated my privacy policy :-P
[21:53] <oerheks> !pm
[21:53] <mrclassic> hei ubottu can you help me??
[21:55] <RedPenguin> oh I did notice for some reason when running lhsw, it claims "network DISABLED" for the old eth1
[21:56] <jonpc> hi guysngals what does this mean and how can i fix it please help me https://imgur.com/a/HB3vGGA
[21:57] <jonpc> installing fightcade and tried everything i can think of
[21:57] <oerheks> that would be the new interface naming, if you want to roll back, use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[21:57] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/767786/changing-network-interfaces-name-ubuntu-16-04
[21:58] <oerheks> the other solution is to set a new proper bridge
[21:58] <RedPenguin> We had a bridge setup in /etc/network/interfaces or is that an old method now?
[22:01] <Bashing-om> jonpc: Fid you motice the package manager's advise ? try ' sudo apt install wine-stable
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Did*
[22:02] <oerheks> i think you need netplan  /etc/netplan.yaml  for server or  /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml for desktop now ??
[22:03] <jonpc> i have wine installed and configured already (64bit cpu amd) do i need to purge wine or anythine else before runing sudo apt install wine-stable
[22:03] <oerheks> some example https://webby.land/2018/04/27/bridging-under-ubuntu-18-04/
[22:04] <jonpc> wine already works to open exe files so i thought all was done re installing 'wine' please tell me if im wrong i am new to terminal and linux
[22:04] <jonpc> still learning alot
[22:04] <RedPenguin> oh ok, thnaks oerheks, I was always used to using bridge-utils
[22:05] <oerheks> RedPenguin, that would be the old way indeed, before systemD
 please help
[22:06] <Bashing-om> jonpc: well, the install script does not see the wine installation .. what shows ' apt policy wine ' ?
[22:06] <oerheks> jonpc, if you are unsure, remove wine before installing -stable, and maybe remove the wine folder in your home to start fresh
[22:09] <jonpc> https://imgur.com/Azk2nK4
[22:09] <Bashing-om> jonpc: Then again, the installer maybe looking for a file(s) contained in "wine-developmnet" package ?
[22:10] <jonpc> with this in mind should i delete as mentioned file/folder oerheks or just run the command you mentioned <Bashing-om>
[22:11] <oerheks> 1. you have no wine installed.
[22:11] <comodore64> hello wordl
[22:11] <jonpc> i dont get that as i can run wine from terminal (exe files)
[22:11] <jonpc> am i crazy
[22:11] <comodore64> saruman where are you...
[22:12] <jonpc> not messing with u guys wt-heck
[22:12] <Bashing-om> jonpc: Somethging smells real fishy : .. I would expect something similar: http://termbin.com/75lc .
[22:13] <jonpc> how should i go about starting fresh best practice please...
[22:13] <jonpc> terminal if possible
[22:14] <jonpc> to get wine installed eg
[22:14] <Bashing-om> jonpc: I bow to oerheks - I expect here he has the greater experience .
[22:15] <oerheks> well, he has wine, he says, then he should head over to #winehq for application help .. i think there is no wine installed
[22:16]  * jonpc begging <oerheks> for assistance fixing wine best practise install/purge start fresh fix no install candidate not installed...please =)
[22:16] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Uh Huh .. what gets me is there is no version table :(
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !info wine bionic
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !info wine6 bionic
[22:18] <oerheks> apt policy wine*
[22:18] <jonpc> so it  uses artfuls version doesnt it
[22:20] <Bashing-om> !info wine64 bionic
[22:21] <Dyna> hello
[22:22] <jonpc> hi
[22:22] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Hummm ^^ ... " sysop@x1810:~$ apt list wine64 >> Listing... Done >> wine64/cosmic 3.0.1-2 amd64 " .
[22:24] <jonpc> does this help guys
[22:24] <jonpc> https://imgur.com/a/sSoSA8s
[22:25] <jonpc> just gna have a smoke
[22:26] <Bashing-om> jonpc: I so not know what is going on with the changes in wine . Over my head at this point .
[22:30] <jonpc> can you suggest what flavour i could run and get it working
[22:30] <jonpc> will jst run live for fightcade
[22:33] <Bashing-om> jonpc: Best to have a talk with the folks in #winehq , see what your script is expecting and what needs modifing .
 thank you
[22:37] <Bashing-om> jonpc: Regret that I can offer no better help .. wine has changed ( as you can see from the aboves) .. and I have not kept up with it .
[22:39] <waltman> I'm having a strange printing problem since upgrading from 17.10 to 18.04. I can print from my linux box with the printer plugged in, and it works fine. I can print from my mac with the printer plugged into it, and it works fine. But if I share the printer on ubuntu and print from my mac, it looks like crap.
[22:40] <waltman> Actually a pdf I made with latex also prints fine on the shared printer. But for anything else, the images look ok but the text is all mangled.
[22:40] <waltman> I tried reinstalling it on ubuntu, and reinstalling the driver on the mac. Didn't help.
[22:41] <waltman> The printer is an old HP P1006 laser printer.
[22:42] <waltman> Remote printing worked fine on the last few ubuntu releases. I just noticed the problem after switching to 18.04.
[22:44] <Bashing-om> !info wine-3.0
[22:46] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: hello, here's my update of the floppy problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yNh3HJTxyy/
[22:46] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Looking.
[22:49] <hggdh> Bashing-om: interestingly, wine64 *is* in Cosmic
[22:49] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Well, ya miss represented the truth ..not an ext file system .. but " type vfat " . Windows file system . I am not too versed in the Windows file system - used to be the access rights are set in the mount of the fstab file .
[22:51] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: I realized my miss representation after you signed off the other day :) sorry for the confusion
[22:51] <Bashing-om> hggdh: surprise surprise here too .. Maybe as I run X11 ? bet wayland does not support wine (??) .
[22:52] <hggdh> Bashing-om: I do not know how wine interfaces with the displays, so I cannto really answer. But... I would not be surprised
[22:53] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: my floppies are from when I used windows and I guess they are all likely to be formated that way; so is that the root of the problem?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Yeah, there are masks that need to be set - but I have no vfat experience .. the masks I have seen are directed to NTFS .
[22:57] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: is this the question of dmask-and-fmask-mount-options?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: something along those lines .. But i can give no direct advise . I do not say when I do not know .. and vfat .... " I know nothing" .
[23:00] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: wonder what would be the best source to readup on this?
[23:01] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Lemme see what Uncle Google advises .
[23:01] <krytarik> RoadRunner: #xubuntu from yesterday.
[23:03] <RoadRunner> krytarik: I did not forget your suggestion, just got a little overwhelmed when I went there :)
[23:03] <luxio> why is the dot ignored in filesnames when running `ls`
[23:03] <Gorodish> mc
[23:15] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt .
[23:20] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: thank you for this guide, it will take me some time to go through it all; but in a nutshell, does that mean that every time I'll want to read a floppy from windows, I'll need to issue a long mount command in terminal?
[23:21] <ubuntu-mate> ola
[23:22] <ubuntu-mate> pra que serve
[23:25] <hggdh> ubuntu-mate: este cabal é em Ingles apenas. Use #ubuntu-pt ou #ubuntu-br para Portugues
[23:26] <hggdh> s/cabal/canal/
[23:26] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Got me .. I do not do Windows .
[23:26] <SporkWitch> !portuguese | ubuntu-mate
[23:27] <ubuntu-mate> ok
[23:30] <michael_> quit
[23:43] <waltman> Where there any known printing issues with 18.04? I couldn't sworn I saw something in the release notes, but now I can't find anything.