[00:52] King was added by: King [00:53] Is there a way to offline install UT through app [00:53] Iam using nexus 5 [00:54] After you install the first time the files are cached, Aravind. [00:55] How do u know my name [00:56] Er [00:56] Because you rejoin the group every few days [00:57] how many times can you get banned for trolling? [00:57] @dohbee, Me [00:57] Does anyone use uSonic? [00:58] Or know who `arabislander` is? [00:58] [Edit] Or know who `arubislander` is? [00:58] @dohbee, [Edit] Me? [00:59] Any new news about UT? [01:00] ubports.com/blog [01:00] @King, https://t.me/ubports_news [01:14] When will next OTA arrive [01:16] when it's ready [01:20] What stage is it now [01:20] not yet ready [02:50] This there any screen recording app in open store ,I can't find it there , but I saw a video in youtube [03:41] Hello [03:52] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/screencasting.html?highlight=screen [03:52] miranda_almeida was added by: miranda_almeida [03:53] Welcome @miranda_almeida [03:58] Hi, thanks :) [04:00] It's getting pretty close king, from what i hear it wont be long, a couple weeks at the most. [04:01] Why what happened [04:01] There's still bugs to be ironed out, and i don't think it's completely finished either, i heard someone was working on something [04:02] What that is, i'm not sure [04:03] Oh it will be great if someone creates "app for it" [04:03] King App for it? [04:03] (Sticker, 382x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aGooZipV.webp [04:05] No clue what you mean. [04:06] Steve Jobs' phrase [04:17] Does UT installer gets the ISO and stores in some place or stores in /tmp === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:22] cyb0hrg was added by: cyb0hrg [04:23] @Aberts10, Yeah, yeah, I heard that too! "*Someone* is working on *something*!" 😝 [04:24] Hey @amolith [04:24] Anyone here know how I can build a SPI cable? [04:25] All I have is serial to USB [04:25] @King, Oui? [04:25] Does UT installer gets the ISO and stores in some place or stores in /tmp [04:27] @King, Honestly, I have no idea. @Stereofont or @advocatux would know better than I 😉 [04:30] I don't have broadband connection, my only way to connect to internet is through USB thethering from my mom's phone, so this is my prob [04:31] [Edit] To install UT I don't have broadband connection, my only way to connect to internet is through USB thethering from my mom's phone, so this is my prob [04:34] @King, The ubports-installer stores the images in ~/.cache/ubports [04:35] Is it like download and install or direct install from internet [04:39] it downloads the recovery.img first but you need to have the device connected for the installer to get the rest (i think) [04:40] It's all on http://system-image.ubports.com/ if you can figure out what partss you need if you need [04:40] [Edit] It's all on http://system-image.ubports.com/ if you can figure out what partss you need [05:44] How much data required to download image [06:05] eLektricitEe was added by: eLektricitEe [07:04] anbox you can put on nexus 5? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:20] @vanyasem, Whoopsie! [07:44] Did any one of tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:07] [Edit] Did any one tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:31] @FicsrealZ, No. Only Pro5. And that only in a rough beta [08:32] @eLektricitEe, Good morning Jason. Check this out for more information about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [08:35] @Stereofont, Why such a restriction? [08:37] Fwd from JSJoubert: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-GitHub-Reported-Deal [08:40] @FicsrealZ, There are issues with Qualcom chipsets basiclaly - pro5 uses a samsung chip [08:40] qualcom has it's own AOSP flavour (called "CAF" for the code aurora forum where the publish it) [08:41] as well as it's own graphics implementation [08:41] both are giving issues now and then [08:41] i believe for anbox it's the graphics implementation that is causing the issues [08:43] @JSJoubert, We know this but discussion is off topic for this group [08:46] @Stereofont, Aplogies meant to forward this to OT [08:47] @JSJoubert, It's already been posted like a dozen times anyway [08:51] Oh is this old news didn't realise it. Only saw it this morning. i forget longer than 5 minutes up, it will probably be known. 😆 [08:52] King: … Did any one tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt) [08:54] Facebook (WhatsApp) is hostile to third party access and blocks it. We will not put any energy into that anymore [08:55] How do u access WhatsApp when there is app [08:56] have another device with whatsapp, and use whatsapp web on your UT device [08:56] I don't use WhatsApp but I think there is browser access [08:58] i made a webapp with the webapp creator [08:58] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1ldBCoIz.null [08:58] Fwd from YougoChats: There you go. [08:58] Fwd from YougoChats: Ymmv [08:59] there's also another in the Open store but that one doesn't allow attachements [09:39] UBports at Geek Faëries V9.0, thanks to @cm-t: https://twitter.com/gerancet/status/1003320263419858945 [09:40] [Edit] UBports at Geek Faëries V9.0, thanks @cm-t: https://twitter.com/gerancet/status/1003320263419858945 [09:41] @libremax, Thanks. This should go to Marketing group and News Channel [09:53] @wayne some posted news! [09:53] [Edit] @wayne someone posted news! [09:54] @wayneoutthere [09:54] 😃 [09:55] [Edit] @wayneoutthere someone posted news! [09:56] (some imposter made a group called wayne😑) [10:00] @YougoChats, Small things please small minds… [10:11] Took this picture on a flight home https://9gag.com/gag/aoNLy7n?ref=android [10:12] Sorry.😑 [10:15] Devices.ubports.com is down [10:16] @theReadOnly, On web browsers and not mobile browsers .. [10:16] Now, not for me, on PC [10:17] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/w6igjSkJ.png [10:17] Refreshed just to see the same [10:20] Works now? [10:20] It's working for me [10:21] Not for me with two browsers FF and Chrome [10:21] Works for me [10:21] devices.ubports.com redirects automatically to https://devices.ubports.com/#/ [10:22] Exact [10:22] but it works fine [10:24] also the link on ubports.com points to https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [10:25] Now that I'm thinking about it, devices.ubports.com shouldn't exist because it contains deprecated info [10:59] Querida Essed was added by: Querida Essed [11:11] Welcome Querida !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [11:36] Hola! Muy gracias [11:39] @Querida Essed, Hi, what's your first language? That's neither English, the official language of this group, nor Spanish. … You can see the UBports language focus groups available in that link Bolly gave you [11:41] My first language is Dutch and my second one is English, but I think i saw that Bolly is from spain, so thatś why I replied in Spanish. Thanks, anyway. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:42] Okay then lol. BTW it should be ¡Hola! Muchas gracias 😉 [11:46] Jajajaja, thanks, I am still learning [11:48] 👍 [12:05] We have a Dutch group [12:09] Oh really. Thanks for mentioning === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:25] @Querida Essed, https://t.me/UBports_NL [12:59] @Querida Essed, Thanks for the detail. 😜 [13:58] M$ bought Github we should move to something lese :/ [13:58] :( [13:59] If you weren't concerned about using a closed-source code hosting platform before, you shouldn't be concerned now that it's owned by Microsoft [14:00] I was but all hail to the cloud ;) [14:00] I just don't understand the hype. @ubports_ot if you want to discuss. [14:03] app ple was added by: app ple === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:07] we should move to something else regardless of microsoft buying github [14:08] Welcome app !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed [14:16] @dohbee, self-hosted gerrit maybe? [14:16] if you have the computing power ofc [14:16] No [14:16] gerrit no [14:17] gerrit is not a total solution either [14:24] <ℕ𝕚𝕝𝕤> Selfhosted gitlab? … I'm using it a lot and it works pretty well [14:24] We'd need a bit too much infrastructure for that [14:26] basically ubports is too big a project to really do self-hosting without some major corporate backing to cover the costs and employ people to maintain it, in the current world [14:26] <ℕ𝕚𝕝𝕤> Than let's continue using github until something bad happens [14:26] @ℕ𝕚𝕝𝕤, you better keep backing up on a daily basis then [14:26] @UniversalSuperBox, Gitea is more lightweight … But most developers are already on GitHub so I think it's fine [14:28] until there's a decentralized and federated solution, pretty much all options are annoying on some level [14:28] But basically one could use a self hosted service and an automation script keeping everything synced [14:28] @dohbee, Git is decentralized already [14:29] no it isn't [14:29] and "git" is not a complete solution for projects [14:30] Usually when these multi national corporations take over a small company the principles and ethics go out the window. Facebook and whatsapp comes to mind immediately. [14:30] @Seannyboy, maybe you should ask Xamarin about that [14:31] Not sure. But ok [14:33] Xamarin is the "Mono" company, started by the two people who started HelixCode/Ximian, and the person taking the helm of GitHub now is the person who was the CEO of Xamarin when Microsoft acquired them [14:33] anyway, as has been said many times alread -> @ubports_ot [14:39] https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/ [14:40] @Marcoapc please stop spamming with just posting arbitrary links, which you have already been told are off topic, and which also have at this point been already posted multiple times [14:43] @dohbee, Ok, Sorry! === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [16:24] have you seen the ROG phone? that's my dream for UT...phone/desktop/console in one device 😍 [16:24] le [16:25] let's partner up with Steam 😆 [16:25] isn't there steam for aarch64? [16:30] At least for ubuntu 18.04 there is [16:31] @VeryOriginalUsername, no [16:40] Any plans on moving Ubuntu Touch development to GitLab? [16:41] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Z08zcEil.webp [16:43] GitHub. We are not making a decision on GitHub at this time. Discussion is open on our forum. https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1317/move-from-github-to-gitlab … OTA-4 is a higher priority. [16:44] the decision is "we are not moving at this time" then :) [16:45] If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice [16:52] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/mTzPllFA.webp [16:52] Yes, we do not move right now. I personally think a more fact-based decision is needed, not just emotional MS arguments [16:52] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/qoJhgtKj.webp [16:53] @MarkOSone, please don't spam [16:53] hello, excuse me :) … i'm realy so stupid... [16:56] Don't be so hard on yourself. [16:58] @Flohack, I agree, we spent a lot of time and effort migrating from launchpad to github, just over a year ago, and took a while to get into motion. [17:32] hı [17:33] @YougoChats, huh???? [17:54] Would it be possible to make an EFI launchable version of ut? [17:55] yes [17:55] Afaik newest qcom socs have efi implementation [17:55] Hence no need for hybris I assume [17:55] halium-boot is still needed because it sets up partitioning and stuff [17:56] you would still need hybris because of drivers [17:56] The only thing that would change is how you pack up halium-boot and the kernel [17:56] Oh [17:56] Right [17:56] Camera and things are android only probably [17:56] unelss all the hardwre has open source drivers, you're probably going to need android + hybris [17:56] [Edit] Camera and things are android only [17:56] I also find it unlikely that Android devices would use EFI. Fastboot is very ingrained into how they do things. [17:57] The EFI support is probably for the laptops that are coming out [17:57] And only those [17:57] yeah, fastboot is more optimized for the phone/tablet use case [17:58] And closed-sourceness be damned, it's pretty great [17:58] I find it neither here or there that it's closed source on most soc's. Most boot firmware is closed source. [17:58] well the EFI BIOS in your PC is closed too [17:58] Exactly [17:59] unless the only PC you have is something like librem, but there are still some closed bits yet [18:00] and then cpu microcode is closed, and firmware for lots of other bits [18:00] good that purism is working on getting to a fully functioning libreboot state for their laptops, though [18:00] Don't forget about the architecture itself [18:01] RISC changes everything [18:02] sigh, why couldn't Hackers at least have been right about that [18:02] RISC-5 [18:02] :P [18:02] yeah [18:02] Even the new SiFive board has closed-source stuffs to my knowledge [18:03] if i had a billion dollars maybe i could get GloFo to produce a 7nm RISC V chip [18:03] Fwd from ankaos: help :( [18:03] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tPRYJS0p.null [18:03] @UniversalSuperBox, undoubtedly [18:03]