[00:52] <ubptgbot> King was added by: King
 Is there a way to offline install UT through app
 Iam using nexus 5
 After you install the first time the files are cached, Aravind.
 How do u know my name
 Er
 Because you rejoin the group every few days
 how many times can you get banned for trolling?
 @dohbee, Me
 Does anyone use uSonic?
 Or know who `arabislander` is?
 [Edit] Or know who `arubislander` is?
 @dohbee, [Edit] Me?
 Any new news about UT?
 ubports.com/blog
 @King, https://t.me/ubports_news
 When will next OTA arrive
 when it's ready
 What stage is it now
 not yet ready
 This there any screen recording app in open store ,I can't find it there , but I saw a video in youtube
 Hello
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/screencasting.html?highlight=screen
[03:52] <ubptgbot> miranda_almeida was added by: miranda_almeida
 Welcome @miranda_almeida
 Hi, thanks :)
 It's getting pretty close king, from what i hear it wont be long, a couple weeks at the most.
 Why what happened
 There's still bugs to be ironed out, and i don't think it's completely finished either, i heard someone was working on something
 What that is, i'm not sure
 Oh it will be great if someone creates "app for it"
 King App for it?
 (Sticker, 382x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aGooZipV.webp
 No clue what you mean.
 Steve Jobs' phrase
 Does UT installer gets the ISO and stores in some place or stores in /tmp
[04:22] <ubptgbot> cyb0hrg was added by: cyb0hrg
 @Aberts10, Yeah, yeah, I heard that too! "*Someone* is working on *something*!" 😝
 Hey @amolith
 Anyone here know how I can build a SPI cable?
 All I have is serial to USB
 @King, Oui?
 Does UT installer gets the ISO and stores in some place or stores in /tmp
 @King, Honestly, I have no idea. @Stereofont or @advocatux would know better than I 😉
 I don't have broadband connection, my only way to connect to internet is through USB thethering from my mom's phone, so this is my prob
 [Edit] To install UT I don't have broadband connection, my only way to connect to internet is through USB thethering from my mom's phone, so this is my prob
 @King, The ubports-installer stores the images in ~/.cache/ubports
 Is it like download and install or direct install from internet
 it downloads the recovery.img first but you need to have the device connected for the installer to get the rest (i think)
 It's all on http://system-image.ubports.com/ if you can figure out what partss you need if you need
 [Edit] It's all on http://system-image.ubports.com/ if you can figure out what partss you need
 How much data required to download image
[06:05] <ubptgbot> eLektricitEe was added by: eLektricitEe
 anbox  you can put on nexus 5?
 @vanyasem, Whoopsie!
 Did any one of tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt)
 [Edit] Did any one tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt)
 @FicsrealZ, No. Only Pro5. And that only in a rough beta
 @eLektricitEe, Good morning Jason. Check this out for more information about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, Why such a restriction?
 Fwd from JSJoubert: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-GitHub-Reported-Deal
 @FicsrealZ, There are issues with Qualcom chipsets basiclaly - pro5 uses a samsung chip
 qualcom has it's own AOSP flavour (called "CAF" for the code aurora forum where the publish it)
 as well as it's own graphics implementation
 both are giving issues now and then
 i believe for anbox it's the graphics implementation that is causing the issues
 @JSJoubert, We know this but discussion is off topic for this group
 @Stereofont, Aplogies meant to forward this to OT
 @JSJoubert, It's already been posted like a dozen times anyway
 Oh is this old news didn't realise it. Only saw it this morning. i forget longer than 5 minutes up, it will probably be known. 😆
 King: … Did any one tested loqui IM (WhatsApp alt)
 Facebook (WhatsApp) is hostile to third party access and blocks it. We will not put any energy into that anymore
 How do u access WhatsApp when there is app
 have another device with whatsapp, and use whatsapp web on your UT device
 I don't use WhatsApp but I think there is browser access
 i made a webapp with the webapp creator
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1ldBCoIz.null
 Fwd from YougoChats: There you go.
 Fwd from YougoChats: Ymmv
 there's also another in the Open store but that one doesn't allow attachements
 UBports at Geek Faëries V9.0, thanks to @cm-t:  https://twitter.com/gerancet/status/1003320263419858945
 [Edit] UBports at Geek Faëries V9.0, thanks  @cm-t:  https://twitter.com/gerancet/status/1003320263419858945
 @libremax, Thanks. This should go to Marketing group and News Channel
 @wayne some posted news!
 [Edit] @wayne someone posted news!
 @wayneoutthere
 😃
 [Edit] @wayneoutthere someone posted news!
 (some imposter made a group called wayne😑)
 @YougoChats, Small things please small minds…
 Took this picture on a flight home https://9gag.com/gag/aoNLy7n?ref=android
 Sorry.😑
 Devices.ubports.com is down
 @theReadOnly, On web browsers and not mobile browsers ..
 Now, not for me, on PC
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/w6igjSkJ.png
 Refreshed just to see the same
 Works now?
 It's working for me
 Not for me with two browsers FF and Chrome
 Works for me
 devices.ubports.com redirects automatically to https://devices.ubports.com/#/
 Exact
 but it works fine
 also the link on ubports.com points to https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 Now that I'm thinking about it, devices.ubports.com shouldn't exist because it contains deprecated info
[10:59] <ubptgbot> Querida Essed was added by: Querida Essed
 Welcome Querida !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[11:36] <ubptgbot> <Querida Essed> Hola! Muy gracias
 @Querida Essed, Hi, what's your first language? That's neither English, the official language of this group, nor Spanish. … You can see the UBports language focus groups available in that link Bolly gave you
[11:41] <ubptgbot> <Querida Essed> My first language is Dutch and my second one is English, but I think i saw that Bolly is from spain, so thatś why I replied in Spanish. Thanks, anyway.
 Okay then lol. BTW it should be ¡Hola! Muchas gracias 😉
[11:46] <ubptgbot> <Querida Essed> Jajajaja, thanks, I am still learning
 👍
 We have a Dutch group
[12:09] <ubptgbot> <Querida Essed> Oh really. Thanks for mentioning
 @Querida Essed, https://t.me/UBports_NL
 @Querida Essed, Thanks for the detail. 😜
 M$ bought Github we should move to something lese :/
 :(
 If you weren't concerned about using a closed-source code hosting platform before, you shouldn't be concerned now that it's owned by Microsoft
 I was but all hail to the cloud ;)
 I just don't understand the hype. @ubports_ot if you want to discuss.
[14:03] <ubptgbot> app ple was added by: app ple
 we should move to something else regardless of microsoft buying github
 Welcome app !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 @dohbee, self-hosted gerrit maybe?
 if you have the computing power ofc
 No
 gerrit no
 gerrit is not a total solution either
 Selfhosted gitlab?  … I'm using it a lot and it works pretty well
 We'd need a bit too much infrastructure for that
 basically ubports is too big a project to really do self-hosting without some major corporate backing to cover the costs and employ people to maintain it, in the current world
 Than let's continue using github until something bad happens
 @ℕ𝕚𝕝𝕤, you better keep backing up on a daily  basis then
 @UniversalSuperBox, Gitea is more lightweight … But most developers are already on GitHub so I think it's fine
 until there's a decentralized and federated solution, pretty much all options are annoying on some level
 But basically one could use a self hosted service and an automation script keeping everything synced
 @dohbee, Git is decentralized already
 no it isn't
 and "git" is not a complete solution for projects
 Usually when these multi national corporations take over a small company the principles and ethics go out the window. Facebook and whatsapp comes to mind immediately.
 @Seannyboy, maybe you should ask Xamarin about that
 Not sure. But ok
 Xamarin is the "Mono" company, started by the two people who started HelixCode/Ximian, and the person taking the helm of GitHub now is the person who was the CEO of Xamarin when Microsoft acquired them
 anyway, as has been said many times alread -> @ubports_ot
 https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/
 @Marcoapc please stop spamming with just posting arbitrary links, which you have already been told are off topic, and which also have at this point been already posted multiple times
 @dohbee, Ok, Sorry!
 have you seen the ROG phone? that's my dream for UT...phone/desktop/console in one device 😍
 le
 let's partner up with Steam 😆
 isn't there steam for aarch64?
 At least for ubuntu 18.04 there is
 @VeryOriginalUsername, no
 Any plans on moving Ubuntu Touch development to GitLab?
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Z08zcEil.webp
 GitHub. We are not making a decision on GitHub at this time. Discussion is open on our forum. https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1317/move-from-github-to-gitlab … OTA-4 is a higher priority.
 the decision is "we are not moving at this time" then :)
 If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/mTzPllFA.webp
 Yes, we do not move right now. I personally think a more fact-based decision is needed, not just emotional MS arguments
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/qoJhgtKj.webp
 @MarkOSone, please don't spam
 hello, excuse me :)  … i'm realy so stupid...
 Don't be so hard on yourself.
 @Flohack, I agree, we spent a lot of time and effort migrating from launchpad to github, just over a year ago, and took a while to get into motion.
 hı
 @YougoChats, huh????
 Would it be possible to make an EFI launchable version of ut?
 yes
 Afaik newest qcom socs have efi implementation
 Hence no need for hybris I assume
 halium-boot is still needed because it sets up partitioning and stuff
 you would still need hybris because of drivers
 The only thing that would change is how you pack up halium-boot and the kernel
 Oh
 Right
 Camera and things are android only probably
 unelss all the hardwre has open source drivers, you're probably going to need android + hybris
 [Edit] Camera and things are android only
 I also find it unlikely that Android devices would use EFI. Fastboot is very ingrained into how they do things.
 The EFI support is probably for the laptops that are coming out
 And only those
 yeah, fastboot is more optimized for the phone/tablet use case
 And closed-sourceness be damned, it's pretty great
 I find it neither here or there that it's closed source on most soc's. Most boot firmware is closed source.
 well the EFI BIOS in your PC is closed too
 Exactly
 unless the only PC you have is something like librem, but there are still some closed bits yet
 and then cpu microcode is closed, and firmware for lots of other bits
 good that purism is working on getting to a fully functioning libreboot state for their laptops, though
 Don't forget about the architecture itself
 RISC changes everything
 sigh, why couldn't Hackers at least have been right about that
 RISC-5
 :P
 yeah
 Even the new SiFive board has closed-source stuffs to my knowledge
 if i had a billion dollars maybe i could get GloFo to produce a 7nm RISC V chip
 Fwd from ankaos: help :(
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tPRYJS0p.null
 @UniversalSuperBox, undoubtedly
 @ankaos, how
 my shoes have closed source stuffs :(
 ı dont understand mistake
 What's happening
 Or not happening
 ```       Image: ankaos.tar.bz2```
 what is this?
 You've just given a log... apparently of TWRP trying to install an Android rom?
 yes. ımage nake this
 [Edit] yes. ımage name this
 We're not really supporting any Android ROMs here. Maybe you'd have better luck at the XDA developers forum
 not android rom. this is ubuntu phone
 Where did you get it?
 how install ubuntu phone?
 ı make me :)
 https://ubuntu-touch.io/get-ut … You'll need a supported device.
 [Edit] ı make
 @ankaos, What is your first language? That might help
 Supported devices are at devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/XURpzBZx.webp
 😞
 @ankaos, Which phone have you got?
 j5lte :(
 what year j5
 Okay, so Turkish
 Qualcomm.  1.5Gb RAM. Seems okay
 How did you build your zip, @ankaos
[18:26] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Wolfanger> (Sticker, 308x512) https://irc.ubports.com/EeItStw4.webp
[18:26] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Wolfanger> (Sticker, 218x512) https://irc.ubports.com/65a0RJ27.webp
[18:27] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Wolfanger> Oops sorry I was cleaning my display without switching off the phone.
 @Thomas Wolfanger, No problem 😊
 code?
 yes turkish
 Fwd from BlinkSD: zip -r ankaos.zip ./
 @UniversalSuperBox
 Please do not paste zip files here. Some users click on blue text because it is there
 A good policy is not to open zip files unless you know what they contain
 I see what you were trying to do
 But you'll need to use the Halium flash tools in order to flash Ubuntu Touch
 Since we don't have a system to build flashable zips
 `zip -r ankaos.zip ./`
 Right, that won't work
 😞
 you'll also need to port halium to your device first, i guess
 dont install zip. forward me
 Install instructions: http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/install-build/index.html
 maybe joining @UBports_TR would be helpful too?
 i guess it is not very active though
 @ankaos, If you can work with a friend who speaks English very well, it will be easier to help you
 google translate :)
 @ankaos, It is not good at Turkish-English, unfortunately
 Especially for technical discussion
 That phone could be an interesting project
 not project
 it is not a currently supported device. you cannot simply flash UT on it
 @ankaos, To port it is a project
 If it happens, link for help
 @ankaos, Nobody has considered that phone before. You would be the first
 not install. by by
 @dohbee, technically, he can flash it but he can't really boot it :p
 Sorry that we could not provide what you wanted
 @VeryOriginalUsername, well not really. UT is not like a typical android ROM. you can't make a zip and throw it on. culd maybe flash on he boot.img eaily, but the rest will be difficult
 (Photo, 800x628) https://irc.ubports.com/tFoPDU2A.png woops
 ``` … debug: Using native platform tools! … debug:  … debug:  … debug: adb shell: echo 1 … debug: Successfully downloaded devices list … debug:  … debug: adb shell: getprop ro.product.device … debug:  … debug: getprop: PRO5```
 @arudy, select manually
 @VeryOriginalUsername, button not working :S
 Is it currently running Android?
 i successfully unlocked after using update.zip
 i'm not sure that will work
 @arudy, what happens when you hit the button?
 nothing, now closed the installer, I'm checking if developper mode is enabled
 @neothethird, I confirm, nothing happen when clicking the button
 oh
 that's a problem
 hang on
 let me see if i can fix it quickly
 @arudy, clicked, or used space bar, seeing the button going from :hover to :active, but nothing
 nothing in the terminal log about the button
 note: im using the snap
 and did snap refresh before starting
 https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/pull/285
 so this is the alias
 i'll look at the button now
 @neothethird, that was quick :)
 @neothethird, If the alias is correct on the next ubports-installer, I won't be able to test the issue of the button, i will need a build without the alias fix I guess
 (but i will also need the build with the alias, as i want the install to be done :P)
 @arudy, or you can trigger yourself ?
 @arudy, i'll test that one myself, it's fine
 ok :)
 @arudy, yeah, this was an easy one ;) already merged, so if you're on the edge channel, you'll be able to refresh the snap any minute now
 just switched to edge channel, waiting for the release ;)
 Some native English guys here? 😉
 build.snapcraft.io is taking forever
 Why it has to be native ?
 @malditobastardo, Because I want to know if this sentence is easy to understand: "SIP-account configuration: Add input fields for prefix and suffix extension of dialed number"
 (Photo, 622x404) https://irc.ubports.com/gVS53DwD.png true :)
 @arudy, huh, it failed
 for no reason
 hang on
 @ignorare, You mean native English speakers?
 yes, that's what he means
 There are some American speakers too 😎
 he meant guys who really find this funny: http://engrish.com/
 Generally I admire the fact that people take the trouble to learn my difficult language
 LG is korean... Which means the Nexus 5 i ordered is korean... which means i speak no engrish
 😛
 @neothethird, https://docs.snapcraft.io/deprecation-notices/dn9
 fun
 NOT
 Ah
 How can I install click packages in terminal without UT Tweak Tool?
 And: Is it possible to change the host name of UBports-devices?
 @ignorare, I think it's` pkcon install-local click-name.click`
 click-name would be the package-name, right?
 @ignorare, Edit `/etc/hostname`
 @ignorare, You're trying to install a local click file right?
 @amolith, Yeah right!
 @ignorare, It would just be the file name. You can start typing in then tap `TAB` in the `SCRL` menu . . . thing . . . in the terminal app and it'll complete the rest of the file name so you don't have to type it all.
 Thank you very much Amolith! 👍
 @ignorare, No problem! 🙂
 @ignorare, [Edit] It would just be the file name. You can start typing it in then tap `TAB` in the `SCRL` menu . . . thing . . . in the terminal app and it'll complete the rest of the file name so you don't have to type it all.
 @ignorare, [Edit] It would just be the file name. You can start typing it in then tap `TAB` in the `SCR` menu . . . thing . . . in the terminal app and it'll complete the rest of the file name so you don't have to type it all.
 @amolith, I think a single tap will also do command completion
 @fourloop2002, You are beautiful. Thank you for mentioning that; I didn't know you could 😂
 (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Wf98sLAO.webp
 Every little bit helps