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slashdo/14:59
sil2100o/15:00
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sil2100Not much on the agenda I guess, I removed the item regarding TB actions for the new DMB members15:02
rbasakI'd like comment on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2018-April/001275.html please15:03
sil2100I guess we also have all the ML and IRC permissions set up?15:03
rbasakI started writing up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase#Checklist_after_a_DMB_election15:03
sil2100Good idea!15:04
slashdrbasak, good idea indeed15:04
sil2100rbasak: are you still editing it or can I add something?15:04
rbasakI'm not editing it. Please take the lock.15:04
micahgo/15:08
sil2100Does it make sense to start a formal meeting if there's no actions for the meeting?15:09
micahgrbasak: you want feedback on the ML?15:09
micahgnot realy15:09
rbasakmicahg: I like to reach consensus on landing the changes, or a modified version of it. I think we have quorum here now so we could just do it here perhaps?15:11
rbasakOr the ML is also fine.15:11
rbasakI don't mind if we use meetingology or not15:11
sil2100Feedback on what?15:11
rbasakMy ML archive URL above15:12
sil2100Ah, missed that one15:12
sil2100Thanks15:12
micahgrbasak: we've generally avoided checklists, I'm wondering if people will glance at the bullet points and think those are the only reasons for applying15:13
sil2100Let me see how the template looks now, since I last looked at it quite some time ago15:13
sil2100I guess there is risk that would happen - maybe we should put those bullet-points as examples in the template, not as finished points?15:17
sil2100Sure, some might copy-paste those as well, but yeah15:18
sil2100It's the same when we ask them the same thing on meetings15:18
micahgright, but there isn't not a guide for new applicants :)15:19
micahgs/isn't/it's/15:19
rbasakI tried to keep it clear that it isn't rigid15:22
rbasakmicahg: I don't see anything I've proposed as a checklist. Which part in particular do you think is one?15:23
micahgreasons for applying15:23
micahgI have to run, I'll check the backlog when I get home15:29
slashdI don't see it as a checklist too, it's just guidelines to help evaluate when one should apply and to also show what are DMB expectations when applying.15:29
rbasakIt's why I said "Remove any reasons that don't apply, add any extra reasons and edit as15:31
rbasakneeded"15:31
rbasakI wanted it to be clear that they can change it.15:31
rbasakmicahg: how about I add a sentence to that, saying "These examples are the common and expected case, but are not a hard requirement for applications" or similar?15:32
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slashdrbasak, that might be a good idea in case others see it as a checklist too.15:41
sil2100I'm fine with both versions - the one proposed now or the first one15:47
slashdsame here15:51
rbasakThanks. I'll see what micahg says when he gets back.15:52
mdeslaur\o16:30
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ratliff#startmeeting16:31
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Jun  4 16:31:59 2018 UTC.  The chair is ratliff. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:31
ratliffThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:32
ratliff[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:32
ratliff[TOPIC] Announcements16:32
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ratliffThere are no announcements this week.16:32
ratliff[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:33
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ratliffjdstrand: you're up16:33
jdstrandhi!16:33
jdstrandThis week I plan to:16:33
jdstrand- hopefully turn on resquashfs tests. electron upstream is now fixed. A bit of review-tools work is needed to add an override mechanism16:33
jdstrand- iterate on various PRs I submitted last week related to udev16:33
jdstrand- adjust snap-confine to always use a device cgroup16:33
jdstrand- work through design considerations with niemeyer wrt update-alternatives (or something similar) snapd interface16:33
jdstrand- go through the anbox design and think through what proper confinment might look like16:33
jdstrand- pick up review-tools snap USNs phase1/part ii work as have time16:33
jdstrandthat's it from me. mdeslaur, you're up16:33
mdeslaurI'm still in the happy place16:34
mdeslaurI published exempi updates this morning16:34
mdeslaurand am in the process of publishing an apport update for 14.0416:34
mdeslaurafter that, I'll work on more updates16:34
mdeslaurthat's about it, sbeattie, you're up16:34
sbeattieI'm in the happy place this week16:34
sbeattieI'm working on the git update, it's kind of gnarly.16:35
sbeattieI have some internal things to look at16:35
sbeattieI have the usual kernel cve triage bits to work on16:36
sbeattieThat's probably it for me. jjohansen, over to you16:36
jjohansenI am working on finishing getting together the apparmor pull request for 4.18.16:37
jjohansenkernel ompatibility networking patches for the apparmor 2.x series16:37
jjohansenreviewing mjg's networking patches16:37
jjohansenand also working on the apparmor 3.0 release16:37
jjohansenwe still have some caching bugs to working out, subset of features support, and uhmm something else that is slipping my mind atm16:38
jjohansensarnold: you are up16:38
sarnoldI'm on bug triage this week16:38
sarnoldhappy to review any apparmor patches that fall out of ^^16:38
sarnoldand will finish the google gce .. something .. MIR this week16:38
sarnoldhopefully make good progress on the next one on the list, bug triage is usually not terrible16:39
sarnoldthat's it for me, chrisccoulson?16:39
chrisccoulsonI'm expecting a chromium update this week. I'm still expecting thunderbird too16:39
chrisccoulsonI also need to spend some time getting ready for the next thunderbird update (from 52.x to 60.x)16:40
chrisccoulsonI'm not expecting to have to spend time on rust, so other than that I'll be free to work on other things :)16:40
chrisccoulsonthat's me done16:40
ratliffI'm on community this week.16:41
jdstrandchrisccoulson: re rust> yay!16:41
ratliffI have internal work relating to https://grnh.se/b2d0bf371 (Ubuntu Security Engineer job posting) and other internal tasks.16:41
ratliffleosilva: on to you16:41
leosilvaI'm on CVE-triage this week16:41
leosilvaI have procps update to USN for precise-esm16:42
leosilvaand I'm working on liblouis update16:42
leosilvaI also plan to get other updates to do.16:42
leosilvathat's it from me.16:42
leosilvaratliff: it's back to you16:42
ratliffthanks, leosilva16:43
ratliff[TOPIC] Highlighted packages16:43
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ratliffThe Ubuntu Security team suggests that contributors look into merging Debian security updates in community-supported packages. If you would like to help Ubuntu but are not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.16:43
ratliffSee http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/ for available merges and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details on preparing Ubuntu security updates. If you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-hardened. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.16:43
ratliff[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions16:43
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ratliffDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?16:43
ratliffjdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson, leosilva: Thanks!16:45
ratliff#endmeeting16:46
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Jun  4 16:46:03 2018 UTC.16:46
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-06-04-16.31.moin.txt16:46
leosilvathanks ratliff!16:46
jdstrandthanks ratliff :)16:46
mdeslaurthanks ratliff!16:46
sarnoldthanks ratliff!16:46
jjohansenthanks ratliff16:48
sbeattieratliff: thanks!16:51
mdeslaurthanks ratliff!16:51
mdeslaurratliff: thanks!16:52
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