[06:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:12] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[06:18] <brobostigon> o/
[06:58] <Knight_Wrk>  good morning peepz
[07:00] <brobostigon> morning
[07:02] <Knight_Wrk> how you guys doing today
[07:03] <brobostigon> doing government paperwork, :(
[09:14] <daftykins> \o
[09:37] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:38] <daftykins> currently playing the waiting game to see what clients pick after a failed hard disk was discovered :)
[09:38] <daftykins> how are you doing this morning, zmoylan-pi ?
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> trying to decide wether to go to nearby town that's now 'accessible' as light rail is only an hours walk away compared to 2 hours away by bus...
[10:01] <daftykins> ooh, upgrades! new station eh?
[10:03] <zmoylan-pi> they're extending the network and even joining it up in city centre... we can now travel by tram a tiny fraction of the routes we could in the 50s! what an age we live in! :-P
[10:04] <zmoylan-pi> maybe electric buses will make them obsolete in a few years this time....
[10:05] <daftykins> trams O_O
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> i think they prefer to be called light rail as it sounds posher or something
[10:07] <daftykins> there used to be one up and down the seafront here, but well before my time
[10:08] <zmoylan-pi> on roads around my home in the 70s i had to learn to ride a bike on roads with rails still in the ground even though it had been 20+ years since trams had used them
[10:08] <zmoylan-pi> if they had waited another 20 years they could have used them again :-)
[10:09] <daftykins> :D
[10:09] <daftykins> when i was at Uni in Portsmouth there was one road with them still in, with cobbles everywhere else - made a nice smooth ride if you got the tires aligned
[10:10] <daftykins> https://goo.gl/maps/GcTPV548YaJ2 there it is!
[10:12] <daftykins> ah would've made a lot more sense to zoom into street view, keep forgetting since down here our gov banned google from sharing that
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> wait till some bugger finds a way to index all photos on the web so you can flip along peoples personal pics as a poor mans streetview :-)
[10:14] <daftykins> :D
[10:21] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points when you can view it in vr and dial back the dates on pics used...
[12:49] <diplo> exMorning all
[12:49] <diplo> Ooer
[12:50] <diplo> Any of you guys use Nagios ?
[13:46] <daftykins> newp
[16:43] <diddledan> boo bees
[16:46] <daftykins> are they attacking you?
[16:46] <daftykins> almost time for WWDC!
[16:47] <diddledan> stream's started https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2018/
[16:47] <daftykins> stream just started
[16:47] <daftykins> :D
[17:09] <diddledan> it works in firefox and chrome!?! :-o
[17:09] <diddledan> (the stream does, I mean)
[17:10] <daftykins> does it?
[17:10] <diddledan> "all about software"?
[17:10] <diddledan> no hardwares!
[17:10] <daftykins> indeed
[17:14] <daftykins> diddledan: do you think they have a sign held up / light on to ask for the applause?
[17:14] <diddledan> it does seem that he waits for applause
[17:15] <zmoylan-pi> more like the soviet union when stalin rang a bell when it was safe to stop clapping...
[17:15] <daftykins> ...er they don't slowly ramp up :P
[17:16] <diddledan> I don't understand the hype of augmented reality with a handheld screen
[17:17] <daftykins> i didn't see much of an appeal at all until a mate who is an aircraft engineer mentioned it'd be neat to wave a device over some cables in a plane and see what they are
[17:17] <zmoylan-pi> apple glasses will be an empty pair of glasses that holds iphone in front of face... tada... vr and ar...
[17:18] <diddledan> isn;t that googley cardboards?
[17:24] <diddledan> that game actually doesn't look that bad
[17:25] <daftykins> *cough* gimmick
[17:25] <diddledan> well yeah
[17:25] <DJones> What are they trying to pretend is an essential "life product" when in reality its just a piece of bent plastic with a couple of wires attached, that doesnt actually serve any useful purpose
[17:28] <daftykins> right now a guy from Lego is suggesting you pacify your kids by spending hundreds :)
[17:29] <diddledan> the whole point of lego used to be to build your own things. these days they seem to be entirely focused on "build our things dammit!"
[17:30] <diddledan> it's all about the predesigned models preventing the imagination and creativity that they claim to support
[17:31] <daftykins> here come the extremely specific use cases
[17:32] <daftykins> everyone knows pics are taken, not looked at :D
[17:33] <diddledan> most used, and least accurate/useful, assistant
[17:35] <daftykins> that wasn't his gran!
[17:35] <daftykins> ;D
[17:39] <daftykins> who lives like that?
[17:40] <zmoylan-pi> you're living wrong... :-)
[17:41] <daftykins> hehe
[17:41] <diddledan> "fun"
[17:42] <diddledan> how many people actually use that stocks thing?
[17:43] <daftykins> iirc it used to be a default home screen widget many moons ago?
[17:43] <daftykins> could quite easily have changed
[17:43] <diddledan> and when was the last time you recorded a message for yourself rather than writing it
[17:44] <zmoylan-pi> in america a lot of people have stocks in leiu of pensions
[17:48] <daftykins> wow they only just developed grouped notifications for the home screen?
[17:48] <daftykins> did i follow that right?
[17:48] <diddledan> yes
[17:48] <daftykins> O_O
[17:48] <zmoylan-pi> having all your notifications on your iwatch is grouped! :-)
[17:49] <daftykins> hehe
[17:51] <daftykins> Craig nearly had a kernel panic
[17:51] <diddledan> :-p
[17:51] <diddledan> he's nearly BSODded
[17:52] <diddledan> keeps on stuttering
[17:52] <daftykins> droppin' frames
[17:52] <diddledan> ooh tongues
[17:52] <daftykins> that looks like the spectre ghost
[18:03] <daftykins> so impatient these Apple employees, they can never 'wait' to do things ;)
[18:03] <diddledan> I can't wait
[18:03] <daftykins> there it is again!
[18:07] <daftykins> diddledan: close your ring
[18:26] <diddledan> they gonna do 5k this year?
[18:27] <daftykins> ;) not a thing in AV of course
[18:28] <diddledan> for free!
[18:30] <daftykins> here comes TV SSO
[18:31] <diddledan> yup
[18:31] <daftykins> oh ok
[18:31] <diddledan> well spooted
[18:31] <diddledan> wha?
[18:31] <diddledan> zero signon?
[18:32] <daftykins> doesn't really make a lot of sense, because just being on the same connection surely doesn't prove what you're subscribed to
[18:32] <daftykins> ah well, 'murican only
[18:33] <diddledan> areoles?
[18:33] <diddledan> is it appropriate and family friendly to be sharing high definition areolas
[18:38] <daftykins> mojave, that's right... 'cause like things in the desert, the changes are hard to find
[18:38] <daftykins> :>
[19:09] <daftykins> APFS finally supports Fusion
[19:09] <daftykins> breakage of iMacs beginning in 5...4...
[19:10] <diddledan> haha
[19:11]  * diddledan preps his developer beta signon
 devs are weirdos
[19:17] <diddledan> I can go pee now
[19:17] <zmoylan-pi> you bought the ipee? :-)
[19:28] <diddledan> iPee freely
[19:29] <daftykins> that Aussie firm got a cease and desist for the "iPood" ;)
[19:30] <diddledan> I don't remember that
[19:31] <daftykins> allow me - https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/22/ipood/
[19:38] <diddledan> wow, 2010
[19:38] <diddledan> that's a while ago now. I feel old :-(
[19:39] <zmoylan-pi> it was a simpler time... when we all patiently awaited linux on the desktop...
[19:40] <diddledan> did linux ever get to the desktop?
[19:41] <mgdm> it got to the smartphone, there are more of those than desktops, I'm fairly sure
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> that was the year i decommisioned my mac and got a netbook running linux as my main system
[19:48] <daftykins> but isn't the Linux user ethos to feel smugly superior for being open? ;)
[19:48] <daftykins> and given as smartphones aren't so open, it must not be a win