[00:04] helloo [00:05] talk me world [00:05] this is where are you? [00:06] hmm, we are not the yellow pages comodore64 [00:40] what is the advantage of limiting access to a floppy drive? [00:42] no floppy viruses? [00:43] i haven't seen a floppy drive in a pc for like 20 years :s [00:43] RoadRunner, well for one machines havent came with them for many years [00:43] wtf [00:43] exit [00:44] lol [00:44] esoteric question of the day right there [00:45] one for reddit methinks [00:48] kk4ewt: even if there is just one left in the world, why deliberately take away the "write" priveledge? [00:49] is this in response to something that's happened that i missed? [00:50] streaky: you probably missed that if someone still got a working drive and a box of floppies, they are way cheaper than usb sticks... [00:50] and way less useful [00:50] If it's like CDs, I'm guessing the answer is that it's a multiuser operating system, and you don't necessarily want any random user accessing it. [00:51] i can think of reasons to limit writes in a more general sense [00:51] like to prevent data exfiltration or accidentally destroying data [00:51] * waltman calls shenanigans on "way cheaper" [00:51] well [00:51] quite, individually you get get them cheaper and more reliable, even factoring in inflation and peak manufacture [00:52] waltman: can't get cheaper than free [00:52] been to literally any trade show in the last 10 years? [00:52] Indeed. I've got a pile of free usb sticks I've gotten as swag at conferences. [00:52] streaky: re: less usefull - not so, if your files are small [00:52] why? [00:52] orders of magnitude slower. [00:53] floppy disks are just data destruction machines [00:53] they're much bigger, much slower, much smaller and massively less reliable [00:54] hey [00:54] oops i have a magnet in my bag, bye bye data [00:54] good job [00:54] is your data backedup? [00:54] Is there anything preventing this hypothetical user who's still got a floppy drive and a pile of free floppies that still work from just changing the setting to make it writeable? [00:55] alpha, floppy disk discussion going on for reasons passing understanding, it's not an actual thing :p [00:55] oh ok [00:55] :) [00:56] just joined so all I saw was the streaky talking about the magnet [00:56] plus yeah actually now you mention it - carrying storage around in 2018 is pretty passé anyway - because y'know, nextcloud google et al [00:56] waltman: it precisely changing the settings that is going to be an issue for someone who still has floppies :) [00:57] yeah, that's true [00:57] which leads me nicely into westworld is about to start.. [00:57] one needs 8" floppies to reprogram nuclear rockets, no? [00:57] oerheks: so I've heard :) [00:59] but that's even older than 20 years... [01:03] edit /etc/group find the floppy group and add your username next to it, then save the file. this might fix the groups problem so you can write [01:04] and with all group changes you will have to logout, login [01:06] sudo usermod -a -G groupName userName [01:08] kk4ewt: there's actually a command to refresh groups without logging out, at least in a terminal; i always forget it and have to google it, though [01:28] SporkWitch: newgrp [01:29] kk4ewt: ^ === Ricardus_ is now known as Ricardus [02:13] what doing === coffeeguy is now known as cylonguy === cylonguy is now known as allguy === allguy is now known as coffee-guy === coffee-guy is now known as coffee_guy === Nicmavr is now known as Guest32469 [03:52] hi guys someone can help me? [03:54] i want to install teamviewer but i get error: dependency is not satisfiable libc6 [04:01] ? === xiaopeng is now known as senor [04:36] It seems fairly easy to convert the Caps Lock key into a few common keys, like Esc or Ctrl. How can I convert Caps Lock into the A (the letter) key or an XF86AudioPlay key? === mkv is now known as m4v [04:47] Hello Ubuntu people! [04:47] loso_: good morning, how can we help you? [04:48] Just showing a good friend the magic that is IRC. Thanks for checking in! === export_ is now known as export [05:12] `perf top` reports high CPU usage from acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter [05:12] i found this related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1579278 [05:12] Launchpad bug 1579278 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Xenial) "Keep powersave CPU frequency scaling governor for CPUs that support intel_pstate" [Medium,Triaged] [05:12] which suggested setting the scaling governor to "performance" as a workaround [05:12] but it does not work in my case [05:12] the CPU is an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz [05:22] lblume: \o [05:22] lblume: Coffee? [05:32] I try to losetup -o $((512*2048)) /dev/loop0 myimage.dd as ROOT [05:32] but I get no permissions error. [05:32] what could be the reason? [05:44] Hi, is there anyway to improve the responsiveness of ubuntu 18.04s UI? i'm running a AMD RX 560 / amd ryzen 1700, fresh install default & wayland are both tear free, but laggy when moving windows or just using firefox [05:49] corey__: gnome is known to be more laggy, can you check if your driver loaded well? sudo lshw -C video [05:50] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xxCvBjmtHk/ [05:51] i think its more of the compositor [05:52] corey__: driver looks loaded correctly [05:53] is ubuntu 18.04's default compositor mutter? can i change the way it vsyncs? [05:53] on other distros i'd use compton to fix tearing with xrendr as backend and vsync type as drm [05:56] corey__: you think its graphics related, or just overall system laggy? [05:57] it's definitely related to the default compositor, this is a pretty beefy system so i assume the way it syncs isn't the best for this card [05:58] also have tried updating all of the drivers with optimizations from Oibaf [05:58] corey__: tryed other kernels too? [05:59] corey__: you might wanna have a look in dmesg/syslog too to see whats happening with amdgpu [06:01] what ones would you suggest? i'm not seeing anything funny in dmesg/syslog i'll try https://liquorix.net/ i guess [06:03] !mainline | corey__ as test [06:03] corey__ as test: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [06:05] corey__: we dont advice using other external kernel adding/compiling [06:06] corey__: did you try the dri part in this tut? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux [06:09] gotcha, i'll give that a shot thanks [06:30] i'm getting this after patching my ubuntu server, what do i need to do? : pyOpenSSL module is not found. To be able to validate SSL certificates of hosts with SNI support please, install pyOpenSSL >= 0.13 [06:33] Rembo perhaps a solution here: https://github.com/cloudera/hue/issues/205 === anders is now known as Guest52067 [06:44] Hi All [07:00] hi === chiya is now known as Guest98142 [07:01] ? [07:05] ? [07:20] Hello, i have some more questions about diskless ubuntu/thin client (root on nfs).. What about network interrupts? How good can Root-on-NFS Ubuntu's handle these? [07:33] on ubuntu regular there are 2 vlc players. What is the second that plays all movies? I am on ubuntu mate but I only see 1 on the store [07:36] do you mean video players? [07:36] if so you might be thinking of vlc and mpv [07:37] geirha: When I just on ubuntugnome there were two on the store. One said for dvd,vcd,etc. And the other played mp4, flv, avi, etc.. [07:38] trying to play mp4 files and it is crashing like the dvd,vcd vlc player [07:49] Edisto: i'm not aware of more than one VLC; I SUSPECT if more than one is seen on the store, one is the deb version, other versions being snaps (which could be a different version(s)) [07:50] guiver_d: yeah.. They appear to be different versions. I had to install the gnome software from boutique. One is 3.03 and the other is 3.02 which crahses [07:53] VLC i believe requires codecs; esp to play dvds. I don't know if the snap would use codecs installed for the deb version (it may if the snap is packaged as a classic-snap; but I couldn't tell you how to check sorry) === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [07:58] !nfs | Dani-hp [07:58] Dani-hp: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [07:59] Dani-hp: we have also the #ubuntu-server channel if you like [08:01] madwizard: Why, yes, certainly. [08:03] slingamn: wich ubuntu version do you have? [08:03] 18.04 [08:04] lotuspsychje: sorry, i think my pidgin crashed [08:04] lotuspsychje: Thanks :) I do know nfs in general. I just wonder if someone has experience how some ubuntu runs with root on nfs.. [08:04] slingamn: did it work on other ubuntu versions? [08:04] /proc/version says 4.15.0-22-generic [08:04] never tested this on any other versions [08:05] slingamn: an idea to test perhaps, and add to the bug url? [08:05] yeah maybe === _memphisto is now known as memphisto [08:05] slingamn: or other kernel test [08:06] hello everybody [08:06] myrat: welcome, how can we help you? [08:06] i have non working wifi driver iwl3945 [08:07] in laptop fujitsu amilo pi1505 [08:08] hi we lost some files from recycle bin and after using testdisk , we got files but all files are empty. any luck with that ? [08:08] dudeji: did you try recover data with photorec? [08:08] nope [08:09] directly from test disk [08:09] dudeji: photorec is the recovery part from testdisk [08:09] Hello, I am trying to flash a usb stick with gparted to resize my boot partition. However whenever I boot with the usb stick, it just takes me to the grub fallback shell. what have i done wrong? I am on a UEFI system [08:09] we issued command sudo testdisk [08:10] and from there we navigated folder and recovered it. [08:10] dudeji: try sudo photorec and scan whole hd [08:10] o [08:10] ok [08:10] tomeaton17: did you md5sum the iso? [08:10] dudeji: if photorec cant recover, your data is prob dead [08:10] dudeji: you can choose in photorec which file types to recover [08:10] EriC^^: I have tried with rufus and tuxboot, and I believe tuxboot did a md5sum check [08:11] Also I have tried with etcher [08:11] tomeaton17: in the shell try typing "normal" then "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg" [08:11] tomeaton17: ps you can always resize boot without a live usb fwiw [08:12] EriC^^: can I resize it with the ubuntu live disc [08:13] yeah [08:14] EriC^^: Does the live disk have cfdisk [08:15] tomeaton17: yeah [08:16] after i select some folder it directly starts recovering from harddisk is it expected behaviour ? [08:17] dudeji: yeah i believe so [08:17] basically partition. [08:17] dudeji: did you choose the file type? [08:17] nope [08:17] well that's a mistake [08:17] it doesnt recover names or dir structures [08:18] what kind of file did you delete? [08:19] python [08:19] M$ bought github .. [08:19] i always scan whole hd without filetypes [08:19] it has option for python compiled files. [08:19] offtopic ericrajuin [08:19] ok [08:31] Anyone got miracast working with ubuntu === uttam_ is now known as uttam [08:45] mjayk: yes! MiracleCast is an open-source implementation of the Miracast technology. [08:52] Hi guys I need help resizing my boot partition https://i.imgur.com/tVCB8WC.png but the microsoft reserved partition is in the way. what do I do [08:53] hi ive installed a snap using 'snap install' isnt it installed on the system? i cant edit the files from the snap i dont understand why [08:54] kemisten: the snap files are in a read-only squashfs, and not intended to be edited === Euph0ria is now known as OICU812 [08:56] can i not install the desktop target in expert install from an iso? [08:57] how do i install them on my system? === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [09:02] kemisten: the beauty of snaps is the are easy to install (download), remove (single squash fs), are self-sufficient & portable (work regardless of version, even OS) -- installing as if a .deb defeats the advantages of snaps === guiver_d is now known as guiverc [09:32] Hello [09:33] I'm seeing there is a fair amount of hype around liunx touted to be this big competitor to other OSes, this big powerul customizable thing ... [09:33] I'm finding that to be pathetically false for example https://askubuntu.com/questions/50581/is-there-an-ubuntu-theme-available-to-make-it-look-like-windows-7 [09:33] --> The Gnome-2 Win7 theme used two key capabilities that (as yet) have not been ported to Gnome-3. === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [09:34] So same thing about removing old features [09:34] all for the new trendy look [09:35] most popular distros are being run corporatively, no difference really, bunch of nonsense "opensource" [09:36] meh [09:43] lol unhappiness is not related to OSes [09:43] looks like he left already, just ranting i guess. I don't know where he saw "a fair amount of hype" but I certainly haven't. [09:51] How can i set a DSL connection in the new gnome environment? [09:57] Anyone know the neon channel [10:04] Hi All, what is the difference between HWE & GA kernels? [10:06] hwe = hardware enablement; lets you run the latest kernel for purposes of using latest hardware; standard kernels have bug fixes backported & are often considered more stable, but can be less useful for newer hardware [10:08] (ga=general availability; or std - had to look that one up!) === CptLuxx_ is now known as CptLuxx === Exterminador- is now known as Exterminador === KingPin1 is now known as KingPin === dcmorton_ is now known as dcmorton === urdh_ is now known as urdh === mjoseph_ is now known as mjoseph === N3X15_ is now known as N3X15 === mavrikant_ is now known as mavrikant === avelardi_alt is now known as avelardi === Attoy_ is now known as Attoy === geheimni1` is now known as geheimnis` === greenywd is now known as greeny === SJrX is now known as SJr === _cc_ is now known as _cc === mlhess- is now known as mlhess === Exagone314 is now known as Exagone313 === Moyst_ is now known as Moyst [10:32] i'm having terrible trouble installing phpmyadmin. it won't accept my database administrative password [10:32] net [10:36] dara: consider asking in #ubuntu-server as well, they probably run into such questions more often [10:37] adrian_1908, thanks [10:37] np :) === croberts_ is now known as croberts [10:42] Hey folks [11:04] hola [11:05] albaaaaaa [11:05] hello [11:05] jajajjjajaj [11:06] mastyhibacjcjj j v vjihb nos entramos en insta? [11:06] dhsf [11:06] asdgasg [11:06] as [11:06] gf [11:06] sadg [11:06] asdg [11:07] la madera [11:07] _home [11:07] hola [11:07] voy a entrarme en insta [11:07] no9 [11:07] que se megastan los dsatos [11:07] bueno vale [11:08] en [11:08] sd [11:08] tengo1006 seguidores [11:08] madreeeeeee [11:08] #hola [11:09] this is a Ubuntu Support channel - please stay on topic. [11:09] q es ubuntu [11:09] chanel [11:09] chanel [11:09] hola adrian [11:09] hola desconocido [11:09] q tal [11:10] :) [11:10] !es [11:10] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [11:11] AS [11:11] ughvbcuhe [11:11] nccjnswijun [11:11] NO PETES [11:11] QUE TE BLOQUEA EL CHAT JAJA JAJAJ [11:12] esto es publico [11:12] no [11:12] bueno si [11:12] osea q lo puede ver tol mundo [11:12] depende [11:12] alaaaaaa [11:12] si se entra alguien sdi [11:13] saf [11:14] @sawel._.kawaii [11:14] @albasanchez3007 @albasanchez3007 sigueme rtud [11:14] sigueme en insta [11:14] holaaa [11:14] soy alba [11:14] hola? hay alguien [11:15] no os marcheis q nos aburrimos en clase de tecno [11:15] nav q nos aburrimos no te salgas [11:15] porfaaa [11:15] de donde eres? [11:15] dsdfs [11:15] sdfa [11:15] s [11:15] s [11:15] sa [11:15] Regarding HWE & GA kernels, how frequently these kernels get released? Are both kernels released for every 6 months? [11:16] im alba how are uç [11:16] For Ubuntu 16.04.x LTS, starting kernel version is v4.4, what will be the maximum supported HWE kernel version? [11:17] I'm having issues with a custom PS1 for my BASH shell. I've colored a few items to my eyes pleasing, but it has completely borked textwrapping. If I type too long a line, it wraps on the same line ("deleting" the part of the cmd, I've already written) and if I use history (arrow keys), the location of the start of the CMD is set wrong by Bash, so I can't see what I'm editing. [11:17] you're british or american nav_ [11:17] do you speak spanish? [11:17] ?? [11:17] nav_: kernels get steady updates. minor versions definitely see updates every 6 months, but I think sometimes within a single release too. [11:17] nav_: standard GA kernels are for each release; eg. 16.04 LTS 4.4 kernel came out with 16.04 & remains the same (with patches backported to it, so minor upgrades). HWE kernels mean 16.04 would then use 16.10 kernel, 17.04 kernel, 17.10 etc... [11:18] hello yo soy española podeis hablar en español y no en chino [11:18] !es | asanchezh56 [11:18] asanchezh56: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [11:18] jajaja [11:18] ?''???????? [11:18] HWE kernels obviously only make sense with LTS releases nav_ [11:18] ^ thanks [11:18] thaws [11:19] I wonder why people are so set on trolling :/ [11:19] You'd need to be some sort of sadistic human being to enjoy bothering others with no personal gain apart from said joy. [11:20] I think boredom is a common cause. People often get abrasive when they realize a channel of 1600+ users is practically always idle. [11:20] Possibly. That's how IRC works - and has always worked, though. Don't come here expecting instant answers :) [11:21] sodhi, Bullying is a big thing in schools, and carry's hefty penalties. Now those school children turn to IRC. That's how I look at it. [11:21] .. and if you're bored, play a game, start a new programming project or go outside and do something. [11:22] I meant irrespective of their own questions. They expect vibrant discussion, not silence. At least that's my perception. [11:22] excellent point JimBuntu [11:22] sodhi, You clearly mean "roll" outside and do something. [11:22] xD [11:22] adrian_1908: Thanks [11:22] Guiverc: Thanks for the clarification. Are these explained in wiki or any other place? If so can you point me on this. [11:22] Yeah, *roll* outside and do something :-D [11:23] nav_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack [11:23] (as i open it & check its relevant...) [11:23] Guiverc: Thanks. I'll have a look. [11:23] hello [11:24] most welcome nav_ === babilen_ is now known as babilen [12:13] how do i move the panel to the bottom? [12:14] been ages since I've done anything on an Ubuntu desktop but I need to ssh to one and export the filemanager display back to my local so I can move files around using a GUI. What command would invoke a filemanager window? [12:16] using 14.04 [12:16] humm, I think the default is "nautilus", is it? [12:17] gambl0re: providing more info (version of ubuntu for example) may help, but look in the tweak tool [12:17] nautilus brings up a window but it's blank [12:19] guiverc, i figured out how to do it [12:19] hrm...it's my local though...I can click around in that window and see context menus appear but are all blank [12:20] :) === kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar [12:37] I need to burn 10 copies of multiple different CDs. If I SATA connect a bunch of cd burners to an ubuntu desktop, would it be possible to burn multiple discs at once? === frickler_ is now known as frickler [12:39] jaydemir, you would think so [12:40] I've burned an occasional dvd here and there but I've never taken on a bulk project [12:40] I've gotta burn over 100 audio CDs >.> [12:41] jaydemir: i think u can burn multiple copies at once using brasero or something not sure doe never really needed to do so [12:42] jaydemir: I would imagine so long the program supports it, that should work. GUI applications might refuse to run more than one instance, so maybe a cmd utility that lets you pass the target device would be an optiion. [12:43] http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/qmultirecord-101896.shtml [12:43] jaydemir ^ [12:43] that looks well suited. [12:45] I'll check it out. Thanks! [12:47] Hi! Where is the networking related config file located at in Ubuntu Server 18? /etc/network/interfaces doesn't seem to have any effect [12:47] i think its /etc/netplan now [12:48] Hi, which version of Debian is Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver based on/built from? [12:49] compdoc: seems like it ,thanks! [12:49] CyberManifest: I might be wrong, but I don't think Ubuntu inherits from Debian in that sense. [12:49] regdude, do you create bridges for KVM? [12:50] Hello, I am looking for some calculator software that emulates a real calculator. I dont care which calculator it emulates, as long as it is easy to use and doesn't require me to source a ROM. Any ideas? [12:51] adrian_1908: for the longest time I've been told that Ubuntu is based on Debian [12:51] compdoc: not in Ubuntu, but I always use OVS [12:51] CyberManifest: right, but I think that just meant to say that Ubuntu immitates Debian. The two OSes don't "track" each other (in lockstep) afaik. [12:52] adrian_1908: I mean after all they do at least share the same package manager, do they not? [12:52] they do [12:52] CyberManifest, yes it is based not a direct fork [12:52] ubuntu is BASED on debian [12:53] Southern_Gentlem: so which version of Debian is Ubuntu 18.04 "based"? [12:53] the base system is the same but all the updates are not driven from debian [12:53] just like fedora is based on RHEL, and now it is the upstream for RHEL [12:54] basiclly it is based on debian but whatever happens to it is not in hands of debian but cannonical [12:54] they after all maintain it [12:54] ok, what is Ubuntu 18.04's upstream? [12:54] ubuntu [12:55] or the projects it uses [12:55] And they have different release cycles no? So I don't think one could state Ubuntu 18.04 == Debian x.x, hence my original reply. [12:55] hoi [12:55] me name temmi [12:55] an dis mah fen temmi [12:55] ubuntu syncs a lot of packages from debian still. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers#How_does_Ubuntu_cooperate_with_Debian.3F https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [12:56] adrian_1908: Ubuntu 18.04 ~~ Debian ?.? [12:56] u cant compare debian to ubuntu on other then the base system [12:56] hi [12:56] Maybe the Debian guys will know [12:56] thanks [12:56] for example they both use apt and they both use systemd but they come with different precompiled softare [12:56] do u know da game undertale [12:57] D: [12:57] !ot | andrew_ [12:57] andrew_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [12:57] CyberManifest: hard to say really. You could compare multiple different things to base such a statement on. e.g. kernel versions, core library versions. I don't think such a statement can be sensibly made. [12:58] uhhh [12:58] ... [12:58] adrian_1908: predominately based on majority of software elements, could you guess? [12:58] hello? 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[12:59] D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< D:< [13:00] CyberManifest: did you read the links i posted? [13:00] CyberManifest: 18.04 is definitely "newer" than the current Debian stable (9), that much I can say. [13:00] hey! 173.174.115.121 kick that shit!... "andrew_" [13:01] mIk3_08: he's gone, also please watch your language. [13:01] tomreyn: didn't see them till now [13:01] mIk3_08, he's gone [13:01] sorry [13:01] tomreyn: sorry [13:02] :-) [13:02] B-) === Nach0z_ is now known as Nach0z [13:08] tomreyn: those links only provide information in regards to how it works, the process, and how to use it; not much of a conclusive answer to my original question or even really a hint. [13:08] tomreyn: but thanks though [13:08] CyberManifest, my guess is they grab packages from Debian testing or unstable [13:09] cr1mson_king: so the sid branch [13:14] yes, unstable / sid [13:18] tomreyn, cr1mson_king, thank you for your help, information, and time. [13:20] having an issue with ubuntu, cant delete old kernel versions,and I cant download updates. To make matters worse, its giving me an error, telling me I have to download an update to a kernel before I can delete the old kernels. I cant manually delete files from the directory either, even as root. Ideas? [13:22] tried sudo apt autoremove, sudo apt autoremove -f , apt autoremove, and apt autoremove -f as regular and root. [13:23] hi all, when I suspend my laptop (ubuntu 16.04) via system menu, nothing is added to /var/log/pm-suspend.log, but when I run sudo pm-suspend from command line, the log is being updated. Why is that? [13:23] bobeo, one question why are you trying to remove old kenrels ? [13:25] bobeo, "and I cant download updates" - what is the problem? [13:25] https://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition [13:25] https://tinyurl.com/ya79dnx5 [13:26] my /boot is full, thus I cant update. It tells me I have to install an update to complete an unmet dependecy so I can use autoremove. I dont have teh space to install the update to be able to use autoremove. [13:26] why an ip using tcpros protocol connecting my ubuntu computer??? [13:26] This is really annoying,a nd unless its fixed will force me to reformat probably the single most important system I have. [13:28] snpresent: how would anyone else know? Have you tried looking for more information on the IP? [13:28] bobeo: delete older / unused kernels, you can list and remove them using dpkg which will then free up space on /boot so apt works properly again. [13:28] Southern_Gentlem: Cheez I understand that, I cant. [13:29] its telling me I have to use the -f option because of "unmet dependencies" and then it tries to install a 72.4Mb item, and obviously fails becuase of lack of space. [13:29] adrian_1908, i just want to know is tcpros dangerous??? [13:29] bobeo: have you tried an apt-get remove of the linux-header files? that may actually work [13:29] Cheez: yes [13:30] lhicks@lab-maas:~$ sudo apt-get remove -f linux-image-4.10.0-42-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-extra-4.10.0-42-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.10.0-42-generic but it is not going to be installed linux-image-extra-4.13.0-43-generic : Depends: [13:31] snpresent: I don't know. Probably no risk, but be sure to run a firewall. [13:31] this seems to be a reoccuring problem, might I humbly recommend a forced state of no more than 5 backlogged kernels, and this problem goes away. [13:32] my first quess is it corrupted, or partially corrupted my current kernel install, which is keeping me from removing the old files. [13:33] what you need to do is: go to /usr/sources or /usr/src/ [13:33] adrian_1908, thanks anyway:) [13:33] check which ones are there [13:33] and if you removed your current kernel that you are running on by accident , make sure to reinstall them [13:33] and remove the older ones [13:33] microwaved_: I cant. I cant remove anything. [13:34] snpresent: I definitely recommend looking up the IP though (just do a websearch/geoip), it should be interesting either way. [13:34] bobeo: you don't have sudo rights? [13:34] microwaved_: thats the problem, its not letting me remove ANYTHING until I add this file, which is stupid, putting it bluntly, as it creates a race condition that causes a system failure. [13:34] microwaved_: I do have sudo rights. [13:34] bobeo: what do you see when you do uname -a [13:34] microwaved_: Ive tried it as a regular user, and as root [13:35]