[02:55] <ubptgbot> jstmee was added by: jstmee
 Microsoft brought Nokia - disaster … Microsoft brought LinkedIn - disaster … Microsoft brought github - you know it
 @Strangerer, linkedin isnt a disaster
 nor is minecraft for instance
 also, offtopic
 (Sticker, 273x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5aFUUB1n.webp
 @amolith, You should try reading the beautiful Terminal tutorial made by the UT writers :)
 https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-1-113
 @amolith, [Edit] You should try reading the beautiful Terminal tutorial made by the UT writers cats :)
 @amolith, The full command is `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /path_to_click_package/whatever.click` (note the allow untrusted part)
 @advocatux, Right, --allow-untrusted is important!
 Yep
 @advocatux, So no need for UT Tweak Tool anymore. 👍
 Yes, the CLI method is straightforward
 Fwd from maharudra108: Any ubuntu kernel porter?
 Fwd from maharudra108: If anyone ported stock ubuntu kernel of ubuntu phone to their non ubuntu phone then help me plz
 By giving repo link
 @maharudra108, What is a stock ubuntu kernel?
 could be kernel on the BQ devices buildt by canonical?
 nowait sense it makes not
 @Flohack, Bq e4.5 (krillin) kernel
 @maharudra108, You probably will not be successful with kernel porting. You need to stick with the kernel that was delivered by your device vendort. What device you got?
 @maharudra108, [Edit] You probably will not be successful with kernel porting. You need to stick with the kernel that was delivered by your device vendor. What device you got?
 @Flohack, I have only custom kernels for my device
 My device is mt6582..
 And after seeing mtk device plz don't ignore me...
 A BQ kernel will not fit onto tnhis device. Is there a LineageOS port for it?
 google says Lineage OS 14
 @maharudra108 see for porting UT to new devices here: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 if you have questions while porting, you may ask them in the Halium porting group: https://t.me/halium
 @YougoChats, Bro i tried many times but every time reboot at boot logo
 well, i haven't tried myself but i do see that it is indeed no easy task.
 This time i thought why don't i port ubuntu-kernel
 As my device already have daredevil kernel ported from krillin
 i haven't heard of anyone else doing that, no idea if it even works that way
 Can u tell me one thing if i want to build ubuntu touch for krillin then what should i do?
 How developers build ubtouch for krillin?
 i can only point you to the porting guide and the halium porting group, which i already did
 @YougoChats, Hmm ok
 start out with the proper Lineage OS kernel for your device and if you're lucky, people will  know what settings and components you need if they ported to a phone with some of the same hardware as yours.
 @maharudra108, If your device´s hardware doe snot 100% match krillin then you will end up with a lot of problems. Maybe even it cannot mount the SD storage etc. Android kernels are all but portable :)
[09:42] <ubptgbot> asierurbi was added by: asierurbi
 hello all!
 i am looking for gmail and yahoo mails apps
 they are not available in the openstore
 anyone has the installation files?
 thank you
 Dekko supports gmail account. don't know about Yahoo, but probably too
 dekko handles mu;ltiple acocunts well
 yes, but the notifications do not work :S
 ? work for me
 yeah yahoo should work (well about as good as outlook as they are both pretty shoddy servers)
 @asierurbi, i read something about allowing dekko to run unsuspended to allow notifications daemon to do it's thing.
 @YougoChats I cannot recieve notifictions, and all the incoming mail does not appear in the root inbox folder
 @YougoChats, That's not needed 😊
 @DanChapman, ok
 @asierurbi, try https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/uploads/d6e03b08e2309a5b4da83b5fd594ed6d/dekko2.dekkoproject_0.1.6_armhf.click
 you can install it with the open-store app
 ^maybe account settings are just wrong? als gmail needs to be set to "less secure"to allow dekko acces
 [Edit] ^maybe account settings are just wrong? als gmail needs to be set to "less secure" to allow dekko access
 @DanChapman, what's the difference with the released one?
 [Edit] ^maybe account settings are just wrong? also gmail needs to be set to "less secure" to allow dekko access
 fixes the inbox being empty. If it can't determine the standard folders then the merge inbox view can't show anything and also no notifications as a result as it uses the same folder flags to figure out what to notify on
 that click should fix it for those affected
 I've never reproduced it myself mind... it's a strange one
 hmm ok. haven't seen that either. my bq M10 was slow to start syncing, and i think it needed a reboot, but it started working after a while.
 [Edit] hmm ok. haven't seen that either. Dekko on my bq M10 was slow to start syncing, and i think it needed a reboot, but it started working after a while.
 @DanChapman Hi dan, I know this was answered zillion of times but whats the today status for Dekko2 on Xenial?
 great dan!
 it worked on my nexus 5!
 @YougoChats, might have required allowing dekko acces via google account settings mail in a browser too, can't remember
 @Flohack, There are differences in camera,ppi,battery,screen resolution.. and i don't think these differences resist kernel to boot..
 @malditobastardo, It's a nightmare tbh. The mime parsing is truly broken! I think I have found what broke with the Qt5.9 change but it's going to take a little while to sort as it touches alot of areas. 😞
 (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/AdQHSUuS.webp
 Understood, thank you much as usual Dan. :)
 I am very sad now, Dekko is an essential app for UT. My best wishes Dan 😿
 @maharudra108, Did you join @halium group? There are the porters at work
 @Flohack, Yes
 @JBBgameich was working on halium
 For krillin
 Ok then your chances are bigger if you discuss it there. Here the super group is more user-oriented
 What is the problem with it?
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/fAb0VwFE.png How can i fix this problem
 @neothethird, Did you / plan time to have fun with it 🙊😂 ?
 If not, may I add the alias manually in a file somewhere in /snap/ubports-installer/... ?
 so I dont have to put pressure on you, because I don't like to do so ^^
 @malditobastardo, not just essential.... 'core' ;) … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/196/most-wanted-core-apps-to-run-ubuntu-as-daily-phone-os … (join the discussion)
 @wayneoutthere, Thank you Waynez
 I just remember that I posted there yesterday lol
 i haven't dumped my opinion yet ha
 Hallo I can't enable  my Google account with Dekko2. When I click continue  after filling all information necessary for the access it doesent goes further. I want to use imap. Controlled all in the pc, ports and so on. I'm running 15.04 stable on nexus 5.
 @TobiasSchimpf, You need to allow less secure apps or something like that on your Google account (I'm assuming you don't use 2FA)
[14:14] <ubptgbot> Misterius was added by: Misterius
 What is 2 FA? Well I also checked that out indeed because of the new rules in UE but it semms
 Not working ether
[14:21] <ubptgbot> Carlos Gomes was added by: Carlos Gomes
 @TobiasSchimpf, https://www.google.com/landing/2step/
 Good day Carlos and Misterius.  You don't have a Telegram username so I can't 'ping' you but hopefully you will enjoy this page to help you get started.  Welcome! … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @advocatux, There's no "allow less secure apps" there. You would need to create an app password for gmail, if you wish to use imap/pop/smtp for google mail and have two factor enabled.
 @dohbee, Of course, that's why I said I assume he's not using 2FA
 @advocatux, Your statements just make it more confusing as there is nothing special you need to do in google in that case with regardsd to authentication. All you have to do is in gmail settings enable imap access. I was just pointing out that your wording makes it confusing, and mentioning 2FA if you're assuming it's not used,
[14:31] <ubptgbot>  only adds to that confusion :)
[14:45] <ubptgbot> Gerardo Pavón was added by: Gerardo Pavón
 @dohbee, It doesn't just work if you only enable imap access.  … If you don't use 2FA you have to explicitly allow "less secure apps" access https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en . And if you do use 2FA then an app specific password is required https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en . Or
[16:02] <ubptgbot> if oauth is used then it should "just work" but Dekko doesn't support that yet.
 @dohbee, [Edit] It will only work by enabling just imap access if you use oauth.  … If you don't use 2FA you have to explicitly allow "less secure apps" access https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en . And if you do use 2FA then an app specific password is required https://support.google.com/accounts/answer
[16:05] <ubptgbot> /185833?hl=en . Or if oauth is used then it should "just work" but Dekko doesn't support that yet.
 @DanChapman, oh, but when you go to enable imap access, it routes you through toggling that, no?
 Oh does it? it never used to but it's been a few years since I enabled it myself, so might have changed 😊
 well it never used to require all this stuff either
 not sure why it had to be made into a 5-dimensional chess version of confusing, either
 Yep it's a bit mental
[16:40] <ubptgbot> mkoroglu was added by: mkoroglu
 Why aren't the default UT apps in the OpenStore?
 which apps?
 either they're there, or they're debs, i guess
 I uninstalled notes-app a while ago and I was going to reinstall it but it's not there. I don't mind downloading the click and installing like that, I'd just think they'd be in the store.
 notes or reminders?
 ie, the evernote app or the old old notes app?
 The evernote one I assume
 I guess because no one put it there. That'll be fixed with @mariogrip's click builder
 Reminders, I think. github.com/ubports/notes-app
 ugh, the repo got renamed?
 In the openstore group there was some attempt to upload the app today I think
 @dohbee, No, notes-app does evernote
 @UniversalSuperBox, https://launchpad.net/notes-app does not
 Uh
 https://launchpad.net/reminders-app does
 so repo got renamed when imported under ubports i guess
 ah
 @neothethird I'm trying manualy :)
 (Photo, 513x316) https://irc.ubports.com/jOc6Jtai.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/D1exIkgD.png
 but I think igoing nowhere, /snap is read only Oo
 Well yeah
 😢
 That's kinda the point. ;)
 please fix the built
 sudo !!
 :'D
 I think some snapcraft.yml or thing like needed to be updated, the install keyword changed
 [Edit] I think some snapcraft.yml or thing like that needed to be updated, the install keyword changed
 @dohbee I'm unlocking the bootloader... or trying to... however following a guide i found online... i managed to get to the fastboot screen with the debug text and everything... however entering "fastboot oem unlock" it just says < waiting for any device > on my computer... I'm pretty sure there's a step inbetween i'm missing?
 Don't i have to hold down the power button and down button or something so it can accept the command??
 if you are at the fastboot screen then you did all you need to
 but if the device doesn't show up in the list for `fastboot devices` there's probably an issue with the usb connection perhaps
 LOCK STATE - locked .... SECURE BOOT - enabled
 But it worked fine for going into fast boot mode?
 I used adb reboot-bootloader
 i don't understand the question there?
 adb != fastboot
 @arudy, sorry, the snap has some weird problem
 Alright, well i assume i have to do this on my own first, because the installer wont do this for me?
 Is there a ubports guide? The one i'm following is for windows, and so i think i might be missing something.
 i've never used the installer, so not sure
 but i mean, if `fastboot devices` doesn't list your device, the installer isn't going to work either
 And i think thats because i'm missing something with the driver
 there is no "driver" on linux
 and you're on ubuntu 18.04?
 ah, i had to use sudo for that step
 "no permissions"
 @arudy, try this https://ci.ubports.com/job/ubports/job/ubports-installer/job/master/92/artifact/dist/ubports-installer_0.1.15-beta_amd64.deb
 @neothethird, I tryed to edit the right file to add the alias, but I totaly forgot /snap was read only, I 'm not sur I want to make it +w  … I will just copy the snap folder and edit the aliases I think
 @neothethird, or that :)
 @arudy, you can't make it +w
 @arudy, it's just a deb with the device id override
 Horray! @ron
 you can unpack a snap, change it, and repack a new snap, and then install it with allow unauthenticated or whatever, though
 @dohbee Phone is unlocked!
 I'm so sad i didnt had the idea to copy paste the snap folder earlier, i feell dumb now ^^
 Now er... I don't have android anymore, and the installer wants me to enable debug mode 😦
 I guess that meant it would help me with that?
 you still have android
 The device was erased when i did the unlock?
 no
 And it shows that android logo with twitching ears on start
 user data was erased
 android is still there
 huh ok that's weird
 Ah there
 Had to press down and power and select reboot to android
 (Photo, 800x628) https://irc.ubports.com/u0n99GdC.png doh
 are you sure your method of unlocking the bootloader works?
 hum, I can read: … => Fasboot mode (unlocked, unrooted)
 isnt it what needed ?
 Hmm
 @arudy, maybe @TartanSpartan can help there
 i'm not sure how locked down the android version is
 @arudy, just to be sure, hit that try again button
 oh wait
 it *might* just work
 @arudy, does your pro5 have the ubuntu edition flashed on already?
 I used this update.zip to unlock, I already used that for my stolen pro5 … https://www.smoose.nl/sites/default/files/bestanden/meizu_pro5_ubuntu.pdf
 like, the factory ubuntu edition image?
 it is an old docs, still have the ubuntu-flash-device on it :)
 you need to flash the factory ubuntu edition image on, before you can use the ubports-installer
 oh, I dodged it by thinking it will done by the ubports installer
 @arudy, (i didnt see any detail on the pro5 page, or i missread)
 we don't have an image for the pro5 here https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html
 ...
 all of the devices that had retail ubuntu editions, require having the ubuntu edition on the device first
 so some research will be required
 hummm
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6twsZUuI.mp4
 (Photo, 706x241) https://irc.ubports.com/rRP4mWOk.png in my ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/ I have still those files here (from my stolen pro5 install before "the end of the world")
 That's not the factory image. That will cone directly from Meizu.
 @dohbee How do i access that window list view to close apps?
 long swipe from right edge
 ah
 thank you.
 any way to get a screenshot?
 besides mirroring the display?
 press vol up+dn simultaneously
 Any idea when anbox support will be here?
 Also thank you very much for you help.
 when it's ready
 whcih is to say, probably not for several months
 Ah okay... That sucks
 Anyways, I'm on telegram from uttered 16.04 dev! Woohoo!
 [Edit] Anyways, I'm on telegram from ubuntu 16.04 dev! Woohoo!
 I guess the keyboard autocorrection isn't the greatest?
 What's new in 16.04 over 15.04 besides the obvious change in bases?
 not much
 the main thing is getting stuff working as well in 16.04 as it was in 15.04
 And i assume that went well?
 @Aberts10, what's interesting for app-devs is qt 5.9, qt quick controls 2 and pyotherside
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/8?closed=1
 here's some more stuff
 but nothing crazy big
 Crap... Video is stuttering on Ut 16.04... Guess i should go for 15.04
 Weird... only twitch
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/HTVfx3Xi.png @neothethird is that good sign to switch to ubports's ubuntu-touch ?
 @arudy, i just installed & booted to canonical 's image
 oh, wow
 where did you find it?
 i really nothing more than following the guide i linked ;)
 haha, ok
 @arudy, that one :)
 well, it might work
 + i had the files in my cache folder
 but i can't promise anything
 i think i should back up it and send to someone if another  is blocked with pro5
 @arudy, any chance you could send them to me?
 @neothethird, of course !
 thanks
 then i'll archive them somewhere and put that on the docs in the experimental install section ;)
 thank you you, and all in here that keep ubuntu-touch alive  ❤️
 @neothethird, 👌
 @arudy, well, you're one of us :)
 oh:)  \o/ huging :)
 @neothethird, https://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android
 hmm
 not sure to trust a zip from google drive, but i don't see the download on meizu site
 Chinese manufacters
 don't really provide anything
 unless it's oneplus
 you can download factory flyme rom for all of their devices. heck, they even provide flyme roms for Nexus and other devices too
 @arudy, So after this, the ubports-installer still failed, so I followed this: … https://devices.ubports.com/#/turbo … And … …    … it works !!! … tadaaa (happy end, my heart is still running fast, too much emotions ^^)
 @neothethird ill PM the files i used, i just check if will reboot after the 1st boot :)
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/JPRcUuf5.png :D
 nice
 So, yep, it works after the reboot after the 1st boot setup, and since i followed that pdf, i even have the bootlogo with meizu+ubuntu on the boot :)
 ohmy, i don't understand holw could I be ok with that nexus4 last year :)
 halium tr not answer :(
 @arudy, i don't know. as soon as i found i couldn't stream music to my car with nexus 4, i immediately ordered a new phone
 hold on... from my understanding there is already a preview of anbox availible and instructions on how to install it somewhere?
 the preview is only on meizu pro 5 right now i think
 you can't install it on nexus 5
 That sucks.
 Is that because that device runs a newer kernel?
 i don't know exactly, but it was more something to do with qualcomm iirc
 Qualcomm?
 the SoC used in the phone
 nexus 5 is qualcomm snapdragon, and pro 5 is samsung exynos
 ah
 anbox has some bugs related to the GPU on qcom devices from what I know
 Though I wonder how that doesn't seem to affect SFOS' port of Anbox, Mir-related quirks maybe?
 anyway, anbox is not a priority at the moment
 pt-BR is?
 or is it fixed now? >~
 [Edit] or is it fixed now? >~>
 I think xenial is priority xd
 but what is the biggest bug in xenial
 probably libertine and freezes on nexus 5
 although I don't understand the necessity of having ro rootfs
 still
 Has anyone tried to bring up like 3.18 or 4.4 on n5?
 @K31j0, it's fixed
 @VeryOriginalUsername, lol no
 it's mainlined tho
 who needs 4.4 if you can have 4.16
 Mainline has no camera etc
 @K31j0, because security
 If you're dumb enough you can get malware even on an os with ro rootfs
 sigh
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0w2mW2QG.webp
 making the rootfs rw is not helpful, and arguing about it isn't going to change anything or help anyone
 at least you could push seamless secfixes for system packages
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Are you sure? I think the video4Linux driver is working on it (I might be wrong though)
 it's not like you're going to update kernel anyway
 we can do that now
 we don't need debs as a method for pushing security fixes for system
 @JBBgameich, Oh really
 Well... Anyways... I'm hoping until anbox support finally comes around that the browser can be improved and the twitch mobile web interface could be improved by twitch... would makes things so much better...
 system updates are already seemless and can just be deltas
 Also, is it possible to run audio in the background?
 @dohbee, Isn't it still patching the whole rootfs at once if you're talking about deltas?
 through recovery
 it's a reboot to recovery yes. but any security fixes need a reboot really anyway
 Will "reinstalling" UT install the default app without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 [Edit] Will "reinstalling" UT with the installer install the default app without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 Answer: no 😢
 Does anyone have a click of the Reminder app?
 15.04 or 16.04
 @amolith, It's preinstalled app?
 @UniversalSuperBox, 15.04
 Did you uninstall it?
 @dohbee, Yes
 @dohbee, Yes
 [Edit] Will "reinstalling" UT with the installer install the default apps without wiping my data and removing the apps I have installed?
 You can delete the broken symlink and reboot
 I can't give you the path though, because bar, but the thing is still installed, you just disabled for phablet user
 @dohbee, How does that fix it?
 @dohbee, bar?
 Drinking
 Oh lol
 I thought it was an acronym for something
 But there's a broken symlink in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/users/phablet or something like that
 building click
 Turns out I had the 15.04 image locally
 Lucky day
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/VVh7LmY3.null
 What is the purpouse of that naming convention?
 <domain>.<organization>.<package name>
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_domain_name_notation
 have any one good presentation (doc, ppt...) for Ubuntu Touch ? i want present it for student and others people