[05:29] <cpaelzer> good morning
[05:39] <microwaved_> morning ^^
[09:29] <microwaved_> anyone got some cool must happ applications on their ubuntu server i'm fiddling around with mine
[09:38] <rbasak> microwaved_: lxd. It's there by default I think. It allows you to nest Ubuntu server installs. Perfect for experiments.
[09:44] <microwaved_> rbasak: thanks!
[09:52] <neo4> what is wildcard subdomain?
[09:53] <neo4> I'm going to install on a test server wordpress mulstisite that will use wildcard subdomain
[10:24] <neo4> how to configure apache to use wildcard?
[10:24] <neo4> it should be like *.site.com
[10:24] <neo4> or whole host
[10:25] <neo4> it might for dns
[10:25] <neo4> Can we somehow turn on all dubdomain for our server?
[10:26] <neo4> that from our WP app we will able to create network
[10:26] <ikonia> what ?
[10:26] <ikonia> subdomains are nothing to do with your server
[10:34] <neo4> ikonia: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcard_DNS_record
[10:35] <neo4> nothing do, there might apache should accept *.site.com and DNS redirect to all domains *.site.com to my server
[10:35] <ikonia> so you're asking can apache handle wildcards ?
[10:35] <neo4> in wordpress exists 'multisite network' it's when we install one copy of wordpress and can create multiple sites with naem site1.example.com site2.example.com
[10:36] <ikonia> I know what multisite is
[10:36] <ikonia> but you're not really asking a question
[10:36] <blackflow> he's asknig a bunch of loosely related things all in one sentence. dns, apache and now WP.
[10:36] <neo4> ikonia: both, I'm going install this set up on test server
[10:36] <ikonia> both what ?
[10:36] <blackflow> neo4: perhaps slow down and start from the actual problem you want to solve, ignoring whether it's dns, apache or WP.
[10:36] <neo4> ikonia: both customization DNS server and apache
[10:37] <ikonia> what about it ?
[10:37] <neo4> blackflow: actual problem it's make a test server for wp plugins and themes using wp multisite installation
[10:37] <ikonia> ok - so follow the multisite install guide
[10:37] <ikonia> it calls out the DNS and webserver setup
[10:38] <ikonia> it actually walks you through this is the setup and preq section
[10:38] <neo4>  ok
[10:38] <ikonia> do you actually ever read the docs on the products/setups you're trying to do ?
[10:38] <neo4> ikonia: you seems not to have heard abut wildcard for DNS or Apache?
[10:39] <neo4> exists a few kinds of wildcards
[10:39] <ikonia> yes, I have
[10:39] <ikonia> as I've just said I have, and I've just said I know what multicard is
[10:39] <neo4> I too
[10:39] <ikonia> no, there is one kind of wildcard - a wildcard
[10:39] <neo4> ikonia: ok,
[10:39] <ikonia> there are multiple technologies that can/cannot use wildcards
[10:39] <neo4> I haven't
[10:39] <ikonia> you haven't what ?
[10:39] <neo4> haven't heard
[10:40] <ikonia> ok - so read the documentation then
[10:40] <neo4> i thought there existed special app that automatically add records to dns and creates virtual hosts :)
[10:40] <neo4> ok
[10:40] <neo4> this theme worth learning
[10:41] <ikonia> a special app ??
[10:41] <ikonia> to be honest, you're spam server technology stack is getting a bit old
[10:41] <ikonia> ubuntu-server is not here to help you with this
[10:43] <neo4> ikonia: It was delusion
[10:43] <ikonia> ?
[10:43] <neo4> about how it works
[10:43] <neo4> it doesn't use app
[10:43] <ikonia> no, it won't use an app
[10:43] <neo4> passed, will read docs
[10:43] <ikonia> as most people don't host apache/dns/email/webmail on one server
[10:43] <ikonia> so that would require complex API calls to multiple infrastrcture components
[10:44] <neo4> yes, and if you don't know server it looks like it uses app
[10:44] <ikonia> which isn't realistic for an app like wordpress to deal with
[10:44] <ikonia> nothing looks like it uses an app to do that
[10:44] <blackflow> ikonia: (we do, but each is jailed and isolated :)   )
[10:44] <neo4> ikonia: ok
[10:44] <ikonia> blackflow: I'll cut that some slack then ;)
[10:45] <blackflow> neo4: sounds like you really want to purchase a hosted centos/cPanel service and use cPanel. That is "an app" that integrates all that and does dns + virtualhost + a lot more, automatically.
[10:45] <blackflow> if not, you'll have to write your own integration.
[10:46] <neo4> blackflow: no, this is for people who badly know inside server but I am supposed to be a powerful linux user :)
[10:47] <neo4> )))
[10:47] <ikonia> then you are a liar
[10:47] <blackflow> then you'll have to learn it yourself, which kind of excludes looking for "an app" that does that automatically.
[10:47] <neo4> blackflow: I want to create wp plugin for codecanion that will deploy on server a wildcard multisite wp installation
[10:48] <blackflow> neo4: I don't know what codecanion is, but sure, writing a WP plugin that integrates with DNS and Apache (re)configuration is of course doable.
[10:48] <neo4> user install usual wordpress, then run my activate my plugin and run will get server and wp prepared for put there demo plugins and tests, left only put record to DNS server
[10:49] <neo4> blackflow: it's big market
[10:49] <ikonia> do you understand how silly that sounds
[10:49] <ikonia> you want to create a plugin that will deploy codecanion
[10:49] <ikonia> he means codecanyon
[10:50] <blackflow> ah I see.
[10:50] <ikonia> neo4: you understand hoiw infrastructure works......
[10:50] <ikonia> "you install wordpress, install my plugin and it will configure wordpress for you"
[10:50] <neo4> ikonia: which infrastracture?
[10:50] <ikonia> for your plugin to work - you'd need wordpress installed and configured
[10:50] <ikonia> so you're building a plugin to configure the dependency of the plugin actually working
[10:51] <blackflow> unless there's some base WP installation that bootstraps other WP installations.
[10:51] <ikonia> the wordpress default installer does it
[10:51] <blackflow> but that sounds extremely advanced for somoene asking these questions.
[10:51] <blackflow> well if I understand it correctly, this plugin should also integrate with DNS and Apache reconfig?
[10:52] <ikonia> but apache will already need to be setup - or you can't install wordpress, which means you can't install the plugin
[10:52] <ikonia> and dns will alrady need to be setup if you wish to access your blog via a friendly name
[10:52] <ikonia> rather than IP
[10:53] <ikonia> hence "do you understand how infrastructure works"
[10:53] <neo4> blackflow: only server, there will on plugin a tip for user how  to set up DNS for using wildcard
[10:53] <blackflow> yeah, but what I mean is, you have already a WP setup (with apache and whole infra), and then a plugin that deploys new WP installations, and changes apache and DNS for those new multisite installations.   Basically, replicate what cpanel does in a way :)
[10:53] <ikonia> neo4: how to setup wildcard dns will depend on the dns provider, and it's well documented already
[10:53] <ikonia> so you're plugin to provide a tip is pointless
[10:54] <ikonia> I suggest you take this to the wordpress channel and ask how useful this is
[10:54] <ikonia> and take a flameproof hat
[10:54] <blackflow> heh, yeah.
[10:54] <neo4> ikonia: apache have been set up already, Plugin will only configure and user have to put 755 right on shell script before run wp plugin, I think it will allow wp plugin to access /etc folder
[10:54] <ikonia> errr no
[10:55] <blackflow> eh no.... nononononon. don't do that
[10:55] <ikonia> wordpress doens't touch etc
[10:55] <ikonia> neo4: basically "stop what you are doing"
[10:55] <ikonia> and you don't change the permissions
[10:55] <neo4> ikonia: for DNS looks like standard *.example.com.   3600 IN  MX 10 host1.example.com.
[10:55] <ikonia> neo4: that's just an MX record, that's not how DNS servers work
[10:55] <ikonia> neo4: basically - you don't understand what you are trying to do, stop doing it
[10:56] <neo4> ikonia: no, I'm going to do this plugin and sell it users
[10:56] <neo4> on codecanion many sellers who need test server
[10:56] <ikonia> ok - good luck with that
[10:56] <ikonia> this channel is not here to help you with that, so please don't ask for help
[10:57] <neo4> ok
[10:57] <neo4> I'll ask if have some troubleshooting
[10:57] <ikonia> no
[10:57] <ikonia> do not ask
[10:58] <ikonia> this channel is not here to help you build comercial software that could put people at risk
[11:00] <neo4> I'll ask about software for myself )
[11:00] <ikonia> no
[11:00] <ikonia> you're done here
[11:00] <ikonia> we helped you with your spam mail server
[11:00] <ikonia> we've helped you with various other problems
[11:00] <ikonia> you're now asking for help building comercial software that you don't understand - this is not this channels purpose
[11:00] <neo4> ikonia: and you'll continue to help me with others things
[11:01] <neo4> thanks )
[11:01] <ikonia> word with the channels that provide and support the software stack you need
[11:01] <ikonia> neo4: no, not in this channel
[11:01] <neo4> I appreciated yours input
[11:01] <neo4> ikonia: nothing bad, people have to help others, I don't thing it something bad if you helped me
[11:01] <ikonia> no
[11:01] <neo4> ikonia: yes, people require to help others
[11:02] <neo4> it's human needs
[11:02] <ikonia> they do
[11:02] <ikonia> I agree
[11:02] <ikonia> try the others such as #wordpress
[11:02] <ikonia> this channel is not for your help needs though
[11:02] <ikonia> ##php etc
[11:02] <neo4> and I don't force anybody to help me,..
[11:02] <ikonia> no, but I'm telling you to no longer ask for help on your projects
[11:02] <neo4> ask and you get help, read bible
[11:02] <ikonia> your projects are nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:02] <ikonia> this is not a christian channel, and has nothing to do with the bible
[11:03] <neo4> ikonia: I'll run my projects using ubuntu
[11:03] <ikonia> yes, but they are nothing to do with ubuntu support
[11:03] <ikonia> hence please no longer ask
[11:03] <neo4> ikonia: ok, I understood, stop it, If I have trouble I'll ask
[11:03] <ikonia> what part of "do not ask" am I not making clear
[11:04] <neo4> ikonia: and what do you offer me to do?
[11:04] <ikonia> use the channels that support the software stack/engineering you want to do
[11:04] <neo4> ikonia: it means you offered me to leave a channel?
[11:04] <neo4> I dont' understand
[11:04] <ikonia>  you're welcome to stay, just don't ask people for help on your projects
[11:04] <neo4> about shall I ask?
[11:05] <ikonia> sorry I don't understand
[11:05] <neo4> all questions relate to ubuntu server I'll ask here
[11:05] <ikonia> not in reference to your development projects
[11:05] <neo4> what about shall I ask?
[11:05] <neo4> ok
[11:05] <neo4> I won't mention  for why I need it
[11:06] <ikonia> no, that wasn't what I said
[11:06] <ikonia> hiding your needs will not be tollerated any more either
[11:06] <neo4> it isn't my development project, it was just what we can do using whildcard possibilities. I don't have such project
[11:07] <ikonia> you just said you are doing this to build commercial plugin to make money
[11:07] <neo4> ikonia: if I won't say about my needs it will looks like proper question, silence is gold
[11:08] <ikonia> that attitude will not be acceptable
[11:08] <ikonia> as I've already said
[11:08] <ikonia> look - either comply with what I've said, you'll be remove from teh chanbnel
[11:08] <ikonia> you got removed from #ubuntu for ignoring the rules and requests to change your behaviour
[11:08] <ikonia> there is nothing different about this channel
[11:08] <ikonia> no more discussion on it please
[11:08] <neo4> ikonia: say is one, but done thing is others. You can say much but in actually will have done nothing
[11:08] <ikonia> I have no idea what your last sentence meant, sorry
[11:08] <neo4> people do this frequently, empty words around
[11:09] <neo4> ikonia: this saying
[11:09] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say
[11:09] <blackflow> neo4: except some can kickban if you cross the line ;)
[11:10] <neo4> ikonia: fast tales is said but not fast bussness is being doing
[11:10] <ikonia> again, I don't know what that means
[11:10] <ikonia> sorry
[11:10] <neo4> :(
[11:13] <neo4> blackflow: it doesn't matter, I've banned on #ubuntu and #wordpress and today I went to #wordpress and asking there. If I need some channel I can reach it...
[11:13] <neo4> :)
[11:13] <neo4> on #wordpress they kicks me by default
[11:13] <blackflow> neo4: sure but think why are people telling you all these things. is there a reason.
[11:14] <blackflow> think hard. You want to write commercial software that someone will PAY for, but you have ZERO experience in things that software would have to do, and very little knowledge.
[11:14] <neo4> blackflow: because deviate from topicks
[11:14] <blackflow> Please explain to me, how is that NOT scamming people?
[11:14] <blackflow> Like, buying a car only to find out it was put together by people who never built cars, and of course it breaks down.
[11:14] <blackflow> Woudln't you want to find the seller and demand your money back?
[11:15] <neo4> and #wordpress was first my irc channel, I hardly speak there and strong violate rules, put there links from youtube and speak in very familiar way.... )))
[11:15] <blackflow> do you want to be called a scammer? a spammer? a criminal?
[11:16] <neo4> blackflow: it's world, might buyer wanted to save money and buy cheaper thing, etc... greedy guy always pay twice
[11:16] <ikonia> no
[11:16] <ikonia> enough, this is nothign to do with ubuntu-server
[11:16] <ikonia> neo4: you've been told what is expected of you, you've been told the consiquences
[11:16] <blackflow> indeedy.
[11:16] <ikonia> it's up to you what you do
[11:16] <neo4> blackflow: yes, it's market
[11:17] <blackflow> I meant this is offtopic for the channel :)   as for the market, no you will become a scammer and a thief and people will want you to return their money.
[11:18] <neo4> blackflow: no, it isn't scam this is the silly of them to buy cheap things and not trusted expensive brands and nothing else
[11:19] <ikonia> neo4: final warning - please stop now
[11:19] <neo4> ok
[11:56] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[12:02] <microwaved_> anyone ever heard about flockport
[14:03] <coreycb> jamespage: do you mind if I update gnocchi-api and gnocchi-common to default to py2 and have py3 as an alternative?
[14:04] <jamespage> coreycb: that feels like a step backwards? I think some of the dependencies only ship py3 pkgs...
[14:05] <coreycb> jamespage: that might be true for gnocchi. i'm planning to make everything else py2 default and py3 as alternative for now and then do a full switch to py3 all at once when all projects are ready.
[14:05] <coreycb> jamespage: mainly due to issues with all-in-one installs
[14:05] <jamespage> coreycb: ok
[14:05] <jamespage> i'd not bother to much with gnocchi for now
[14:05] <coreycb> ok
[14:06] <jamespage> coreycb: I'm working on the ceph mimic release for cosmic btw
[14:06] <jamespage> trying to get the parallel build target up for lp buildd's
[14:06] <jamespage> might be able to use 4 - we'll see
[14:07] <coreycb> jamespage: ok cool
[14:46] <geoffmcc> Im running Ubuntu 18.04 and today I noticed I have a debian-tor group. I don't recall seeing it there before, but it may have been there. Im also pretty sure I never seen it on other versions before. All I have been able to figure out is that tor does not seem to be installed, but I cant find any documentation as to if that is now a default group.
[14:52] <rbasak> geoffmcc: it doesn't look present by default on a Bionic image.
[14:54] <rbasak> geoffmcc: looks like it gets created dynamically when you install the tor package.
[14:54] <geoffmcc> rbasak: hmm.. weird. I wonder if an update pulled in something that somehow required it, but not tor
[14:55] <rbasak> Nothing that I can see.
[14:56] <geoffmcc> rbasak: okay thanks for looking
[16:25] <geoffmcc> rbasak: debian-tor must be a default group on Bionic. I did a fresh install, checked and there it was again.
[16:44] <rbasak> geoffmcc: which installer are you using?
[16:45] <geoffmcc> rbasak: I just burned the latest image and i got that new installer, forget what its called.
[16:46] <rbasak> debian-tor isn't present if I boot a KVM or lxd Bionic image (using official images). It could be an artifact of the installer though. You mean subquity?
[16:46] <rbasak> subiquity
[16:46] <nacc> and my ubuntu desktop that was a fresh install of 18.04 just before release does not have it either
[16:47] <geoffmcc> rbasak: yes, subiquity.
[16:48] <rbasak> smoser: ^
[16:48] <rbasak> I don't understand why this would be happening.
[16:48] <rbasak> The user-setup udeb looks like it defaults to adding users to debian-tor, but won't if the gruop doesn't exist.
[16:48] <rbasak> I've not confirmed this though.
[16:48] <rbasak> Is subiquity perhaps creating the group if it doesn't exist?
[16:52] <smoser> rbasak: i do not think that subiquity is doing anything with tor
[16:53] <rbasak> smoser: geoffmcc's report above is that a fresh install of Bionic using subiquity results in a debian-tor group created
[16:53] <geoffmcc> rbasak: smoser: fresh install - $groups geoff adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lxd lpadmin sambashare debian-tor libvirtd
[16:54] <smoser> hm..
[16:54] <geoffmcc> smoser: as far as i can tell, tor is not installed
[17:22] <powersj> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zCcBFCJw2C/
[17:22] <powersj> confirmed the debian-tor group is there on latest bionic daily-live iso :\
[17:24] <nacc> powersj: what about the non-live one?
[17:26] <powersj> I created LP: #1775228 and will check d-i now
[17:43] <rbasak> powersj: thanks!
[19:29] <nacc> rbasak: are you still around?
[20:19] <axisys> anyone successfully made sssd working on ubuntu 14.04.. I am getting much success... exact same sssd.conf works on 5 centos 7 I tried
[20:20] <axisys> I am *not* getting much success
[20:20] <axisys> checked with #sssd team and so far no success there either
[20:20] <axisys> ldapsearch works fine ..
[20:26] <granjero> hi, trying to follow this guide to install SQL driver for php but i got an error on the second line. the echo "extension....
[20:26] <granjero> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sql-server/developer-get-started/php/ubuntu/step/2.html
[20:27] <sarnold> sudo and echo don't usually mix
[20:27] <sarnold> whoever wrote this probably adapted instructions from elsewhere without testing
[20:28] <sarnold> (well, sudo and echo work perfectly, as designed, etc., but people expect them to do something other than they do ;)
[20:28] <sarnold> instead of prefixing every command with sudo, run sudo -s once, and then run the commands without 'sudo'
[20:29] <granjero> let me try
[20:30] <granjero> sort of worked
[20:30] <granjero> got a wanrnig
[21:54] <thedac> roaksoax: That seems to have fixed things. I am running a full OpenStack deploy now.
[21:55] <roaksoax> thedac: cool