[06:06] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:30] <Knight_Wrk> hey brobostigon
[06:30] <brobostigon> hi Knight_Wrk
[17:10] <daftykins> Guest-436223: bad connection!
[20:07] <diddledan> I love when it stays light into the evening
[20:07] <diddledan> summer ftw
[20:19] <zmoylan-pi> as a kid playing tennis against a wall behind the house until it got dark and someone got hit in the head by the ball when they could no longer see it :-)
[20:24] <diddledan> we ruined my dad's lawn one summer with cycling around it for hour on end every evening
[20:26] <daftykins> must've angered it
[20:27] <daftykins> diddledan: my friend with the outdated vulnerable drupal site has got in touch to say that that site, his wifes personal one and his mum in laws holiday home one all need their hosting sorted O_O
[20:27] <zmoylan-pi> an english mans lawn is his pride and joy
[20:28] <diddledan> \o/
[20:29] <daftykins> diddledan: right now he's using multiple hosting companies across each, but i'm thinking of just saying dump the lot and i'll run a digitalocean droplet with them all on instead :D make sense?
[20:29] <daftykins> he is trying to avoid having to maintain them but i've explained that the only way to do that is to stay offline xD
[20:30] <diddledan> yeah, putting them all on the same hosting is probably a good idea
[20:30] <daftykins> just one of the above seems to want £35/mo for 'management'
[20:30] <diddledan> managed hosting costs :-p
[20:31] <daftykins> mmm can't see them really doing it all though
[20:31] <zmoylan-pi> he's asking you as he hopes you'll volunteer...
[20:31] <daftykins> haha nah i was just curious as to whether i sounded insane or whether you'd direct folk the same way
[20:32] <daftykins> oh one of the sites is already disabled by the current host for having been hacked in the past, allegedly :D
[20:35] <diddledan> oh gawd. might need to clean it first then
[20:35] <daftykins> do you ever bother with that, or just start afresh?
[20:35] <daftykins> i found it on the way back machine from april but there's nothing visibly wrong, think it's the classic unmaintained wordpress situation there
[20:36] <diddledan> maybe
[20:36] <daftykins> seems like it goes: 1) client wants to be able to update their site 2) someone puts in a CMS for them 3) client never updates site 4) site is compromised
[20:38] <zmoylan-pi> but if they do updates it will eventually break something!!
[20:39] <daftykins> a much better result :>
[20:39] <daftykins> seems some think they need to put up really obnoxious cookie banners now due to GDPR
[20:40] <diddledan> s/some/every damned site/
[20:41] <daftykins> hehe, mmm yeah doesn't sound like something new and yet why some have started doing more i assume is down to GDPR fear
[20:45] <daftykins> i remember that privacy fella said cookie banners was everyone misinterpreting the rules