[13:47] <jrwren> Good morning.
[13:47] <Scary_Guy> morning
[13:47] <jrwren> Is there a unix util, maybe a grep option, which will output the byte offset of the search found?
[13:48] <jrwren> durp, grep -b.
[13:48] <jrwren> i had to ask so that I could find it. :)
[13:58] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:59] <cmaloney> I'm not even sure I would have known where to look for that
[15:15] <rick_h_> morning
[15:33] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Howdy
[15:33] <cmaloney> how's the day so far?
[15:35] <greg-g> god damnit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17245649
[15:35] <greg-g> our instance is getting slower this morning
[15:37] <cmaloney> greg-g: I feel your pain
[15:37] <jrwren> gitea looksnice.
[15:38] <greg-g> +1 to gitea
[15:40] <cmaloney> It's interesting how I've gone from "Gitlab and Github and Whatever Chris Lemmer Webber uses" to "Well, Gitea is a Gogs fork and ..."
[15:41] <cmaloney> Thank you Microsoft!
[15:43] <jrwren> no exodus from GH is needed.
[15:43] <jrwren> GH is more trustworthy than ever with Nat at the helm.
[15:43] <cmaloney> Oh I trust the captain, but I have my eyes on where the lifeboats / lifejackets are
[15:44] <cmaloney> That's true of Gitlab (where I copied my projects)
[15:44] <cmaloney> Pretty much anything that has no visible means of support outside of VCs is suspect
[15:45] <jrwren> that is the funny thing though. GH has 200M$ revenue
[15:45] <cmaloney> no douby
[15:45] <cmaloney> doubt
[15:53] <greg-g> what's their net?
[15:53] <greg-g> negative?
[15:53] <jrwren> no one knows.
[15:53] <jrwren> or rather, only investors know.
[15:53]  * greg-g nods
[15:54] <cmaloney> Yeah, the speculation is that GH would have had to do another round of funding to keep up
[15:54] <cmaloney> which is where MS comes into play
[16:03] <brousch> jrwren: Who is this Nat person?
[16:04] <jrwren> brousch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Friedman
[16:04] <jrwren> brousch: remember Helix Code?
[16:05] <brousch> I remember Xamarin
[16:05] <jrwren> close enough.
[16:06] <jrwren> only 10yrs later.
[18:56] <waldo323> cmaloney, are the free plans from gitlab new?
[18:57] <waldo323> er oh the article I had glimpsed says 'now free' so I suppose so
[18:58] <cmaloney> Yeah, those are new
[18:58] <cmaloney> but they're looking to get folks who are in academia / larger OSS companies to take a peek
[18:58] <cmaloney> What's neat is they have built-in CI
[18:59] <cmaloney> and a lot of the upper-level project management
[19:00] <waldo323> https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/05/gitlabs-high-end-plans-are-now-free-for-open-source-projects-and-schools/
[19:48] <cmaloney> https://github.com/me-shaon/GLWTPL
[20:02] <_stink_> hah
[20:13] <greg-g> ugh, I hate the WFTPL and variants
[20:38] <jrwren> greg-g: all code should be CC0  :p
[20:39] <greg-g> I'm a copyleft proponent :)
[20:39] <jrwren> oh boy.
[20:39] <greg-g> reciprocal (aka "viral") :P
[20:39] <jrwren> oh yes, I know what copyleft is. :)
[20:39] <greg-g> (I thought some other might not)
[21:35] <cmaloney> I'm a fan of copyleft as well
[21:36] <cmaloney> I like that others are encouraged to share the source
[21:36] <cmaloney> This one seems to be a reverse Expat license though
[21:36] <cmaloney> which was interesting
[21:37] <cmaloney> Rather than being a public domain it's more of a "don't attach my name to any of this, I want nothing to do with it
[21:38] <cmaloney> which of course makes it a little more difficult to figure out rights issues and what-not
[21:38] <cmaloney> but if someone wants to take ownership of it then it's on them
[21:38] <cmaloney> sort of a code hot-potato
[21:38] <cmaloney> or a warning sign