[00:12] <massprog> hi, I can't use dsl on ubuntu 18.04 anyone can help me ?
[00:19] <oerheks_> massprog, sudo pppoeconf in terminal, to set it up, after that you can select dsl in your network manager
[00:20] <oerheks_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[00:20] <oerheks_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10/968704 still valid, i guess
[00:22] <massprog> oerheks_, thank you
[00:29] <sigma__> Hi guys, I broke my screen command. Tried to run the chmod commands at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.networksecuritytoolkit.org/index.php/HowTo_Share_A_Terminal_Session_Using_Screen
[00:30] <sigma__> Now only one user and also root can use screen. Others get "cannot open terminal /dev/pts/0 - please check".
[00:30] <sigma__> I reinstalled screen, no luck. Does anyone know how I can revert this change?
[00:35] <guiverc> sigma__, i know minimal, but a look at differences between my system (pure default `screen` setup) & the url-link you provided (for last group of commands only) are `chmod 755 /var/..` (my default is 775)
[00:46] <phablet> anyone usihi
[00:47] <klrstatik> I this the appropriate place to ask for general advice?
[00:47] <oerheks_> anything ubuntu related, sure
[00:47] <guiverc> klrstatik, as long as the questions are about Ubuntu (& official Ubuntu software); otherwise #ubuntu-discuss, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <klrstatik> I just installed 18.04. New clean install. Tried multiple wallpaper rotating programs. None seem to work. Now I cant even get them to load up. Variety crashed as did cortina. I fear I somehow caused a conflict between all of them and need to clean it up.
[00:51] <oerheks_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cortina/1.1.1-1ubuntu1
[00:51] <klrstatik> Just hoping for some guidance and understanding as where to look. I know a few things in terminal but as a whole my understanding is limited
[00:52] <oerheks_> Cortina only accepts jpg not jpeg or JPG
[00:53] <klrstatik> I cant help but think its not just cortina. Ive installed 3 or 4 programs without any success
[00:54] <compdoc> klrstatik, sounds like its beena learning experience. why not just reinstall ubuntu
[00:54] <oerheks_> maybe it is the wayland session
[00:54] <LevierMRQ> klrstatik: how about GIMP?
[00:56] <klrstatik> compdoc, had a feeling is was gonna go that way
[00:56] <klrstatik> I down see how GIMP would help
[00:57] <oerheks_> this 2016 page seems nice, not sure there is a conflict now in 18.04 kernel 4.15 https://itsfoss.com/applications-manage-wallpapers-ubuntu/
[00:57] <LevierMRQ> klrstatik: i may have missread.
[00:59] <klrstatik> oerheks, those are exactly the first ones I tried
[01:17] <heliu> nick
[02:40] <Rayben> Castor and Pollux
[02:40] <Rayben> Dioscuri
[02:40] <Rayben> Romulus and Remus
[02:40] <Rayben> Trojan War
[02:50] <tears> 233
[02:50] <tears>     ah?
[02:51] <tears> 333
[03:04] <ingo_> hello
[03:04] <ingo_> ?
[03:38] <crimson_king> Something wrong with the repositories? apt update fails - https://paste.gnome.org/pxksvrhxe
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> crimson_king: you added external ppa's to your system
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> crimson_king: to check known apt problems you can ask in #ubuntu-mirrors
[03:40] <crimson_king> lotuspsychje, yes, the official flatpak ppa
[03:41] <crimson_king> okay
[03:42] <castor_t> Hello
[03:42] <castor_t> I am unable to connect to a windows share from ubuntu 18.04
[03:42] <castor_t> I am able to ping the server, but cannot access the windows share folder in thunar (I'm on xubuntu)
[03:43] <castor_t> any help is greatly appreciated. :)
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !samba | castor_t can this help?
[03:44] <castor_t> lotuspsychje, I will look into it. thanks
[03:46] <castor_t> lotuspsychje, before i mess up the configuration files, i just want to be sure that I can connect.
[03:46] <castor_t> Can I check if I can open the windows share before making any permanant changes ?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> castor_t: doublecheck here if you got setup right mate: https://websiteforstudents.com/samba-setup-on-ubuntu-16-04-17-10-18-04-with-windows-systems/
[03:47] <castor_t> lotuspsychje, thanks :thumbsup
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> crimson_king: come join #ubuntu-mirrors they mostly awake
[03:54] <castor_t> lotuspsychje, that tutorial shows how to access ubuntu share on windows. I want the reverse, access windows share on ubuntu
[03:55] <swift110> hey folks
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> castor_t: https://websiteforstudents.com/mount-windows-shares-everyone-ubuntu-17-04-17-10/
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> morning swift110
[04:03] <alakx> Hello. How can i reverse using the command vgextend volume-goup /dev/sdb1 for example
[04:04] <alakx> In my context i used it on a wrong volume group
[04:07] <zndy> Ubuntu16.04 LTS USES xware desktop, and suddenly the account password input box is not displayed on the front end. What might be the problem?
[04:10] <castor_t> lotuspsychje, still struggling with configuring remote share on xubuntu.
[04:10] <castor_t> CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -6
[04:11] <castor_t> mount error(6): No such device or address
[04:12] <castor_t> in fstab => //172.16.16.108/ /media/winshare cifs vers=1.0,username=akrivia,password=RaghuSir5115,uid=nobody,iocharset=utf8,noperm 0 0
[04:24] <netochka> Hey guys. how can i keep 2 windows on top of the screen (horizontally) at the same time?
[04:28] <happygilmoregent> anyone know how to install nvidia-legacy 304.135 on skyware(Ubuntu deriv)
[04:28] <happygilmoregent> kbuild keeps failing
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: we only can support vanilla ubuntu here
[04:29] <happygilmoregent> is there a skywave channel?
[04:30] <metrum> Hello! Can you recommend me a pdf viewer which I can open documents in multiple windows and not tabs? Like Evince, but I want to use something else.
[04:31] <Siva_Machina> I am using Atril
[04:33] <metrum> Siva Machina: Is auto scrolling available? I want to use the middle button while holding down for scrolling.
[04:35] <Siva_Machina> metrum: yes it is
[05:00] <tears> 333
[05:01] <tears> 222
[05:01] <tears> 2222222222222
[05:01] <tears> 2
[05:01] <Vorant> ?
[05:02] <tears> 发呆
[05:02] <tears> 333333330
[05:02] <tears> 2
[05:02] <tears> 2
[05:02] <tears> 2
[05:02] <tears> 2
[05:02] <tears> 2
[05:07] <yuken> How the hell do I get OpenCL running under Ubuntu on an AMD card that is running AMDGPU?
[05:07] <yuken> VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290/390] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller
[05:08] <yuken> 	Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
[05:09] <ovaltradej> I'm on kubuntu 17.10.  Can someone tell me the key combinations to restore my menu bars please?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> ovaltradej: perhaps the #kubuntu guys might know that one?
[05:12] <ovaltradej> They're sleep
[05:30] <ovaltradej>  So if you kde guys ever lose your menubar, just go to settings > widget style > Menubar Style|in application
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ovaltradej
[05:33]  * ovaltradej bows
[05:36] <yuken> so any ideas about OpenCL with an AMD GPU?
[05:43] <yuken> Well, I got OpenCL working with AMDGPU-PRO, except now I don't have X starting up properly - just a blinking cursor.
[05:43] <yuken> In my other TTYs and my OpenCL app is running fine now.
[05:51] <slimetrap> okay so i tried Notes (snap install notes) and i can't resize the window. Is there no apple notes like application for ubuntu? tomboy doesn't work for me at all.
[05:51] <slimetrap> by "doesn't work" i mean like functionally doesn't aid me well in taking notes like apple notes does
[05:55] <jazzanova123> i am trying to install ubuntu, and I installed livecd image onto a partition, so that I will not need to boot from a USB drive
[05:55] <jazzanova123> that sdb5
[05:56] <jazzanova123> the installer doesnt list sdb drive at all, and wants me to install to sda
[05:56] <jazzanova123> but i want to install into another partition on sdb
[05:56] <jazzanova123> how can I tell ununtu installer to list all drives ?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> slimetrap: can this help? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/get-notes-simple-note-taking-app-linux
[06:48] <Maeldryn> heyo where should I ask questions regarding xinput?
[06:49] <Maeldryn> if you dont mind me asking... :P
[06:51] <Maeldryn> trying to figure out some stuff with drawing tablet buttons (the undo is Alt-F4)
[06:51] <Maeldryn> was a little frustrating
[06:56] <Maeldryn> im thinking what i have to do is create a new master type that has the buttons that correspond to my drawing tablet
[06:59] <hello_kitty> I copied several ssh keys into ~/.ssh/ They don't seem to be used when I try to ssh into the other machines for which I created these keys, instead I have to use -i and specify the key as an argument to the ssh command. I see where I could edit ssh_config to add these keys...but is there a safer function or utility that I can use..?
[07:00] <Allie`> hello_kitty: you can use a SSH agent
[07:01] <Maeldryn> im gonna keep ploding along with xinput
[07:04] <hello_kitty> Allie`: then if i tell the ssh-agent about all of the keys, it'll try them when I do ssh user@someip ?
[07:06] <Allie`> yes! I have four ssh keys on my machine right now
[07:06] <hello_kitty> thanks Allie` i'll try that out :D
[07:07] <microwaved_> gonna reboot brb
[07:07] <Maeldryn> well shoot. that didnt work
[07:08] <Maeldryn> seems xinput is only good for mice and keyboards.... not for buttons...
[07:09] <Maeldryn> does anyone around know if xinput can be used for remapping the keys on a keyboard?
[07:10] <zetheroo> I would like that any new user created on a system has certain files in their Home directory, and that certain application start on login ... how/where can I set that up?
[07:10] <hello_kitty> Allie`: I'm getting "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." when I run ssh-add /path/to/private-key . Do I need to setup something up first?
[07:11] <Allie`> hello_kitty: yes, you’ll probably need to start the agent, let me find you some docs :)
[07:13] <hello_kitty> Allie`: might have it working now.. tried eval "$(ssh-agent)"
[07:13] <hello_kitty> gonna go test the keys :d
[07:13] <Allie`> yeah, that’d do it
[07:13] <Allie`> the digitalocean docs have a nice overview of how to manage ssh: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/ssh-essentials-working-with-ssh-servers-clients-and-keys
[07:14] <hello_kitty> ty
[07:15] <Maeldryn> looks like xinput is awash, looking into evdev...
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Maeldryn: wich tablet is this on wich ubuntu version?
[07:21] <Maeldryn> ubuntu 16.04 and using a huion 610
[07:21] <Maeldryn> so not a wacom
[07:21] <Maeldryn> ah ummmm
[07:22] <tears> 2
[07:22] <Maeldryn> lotuspsychje: ^
[07:22] <rabel_> hi there. i heard that a lot of companies don't want to use ubuntu because it has no hardware certification and is considered "less enterprise" than sles or rhel by a lot of people. on the other hand i read that ubuntu is one of the most common linux distro out there. which is true? do you know any bigger companies that use ubntu as a server os?
[07:22] <zetheroo> how to set an application to startup for all new users created?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Maeldryn: complete guide section looks usefull: https://askubuntu.com/questions/500141/huion-h610-tablet
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> rabel_: we dont really take polls here, please move to #ubuntu-discuss
[07:23] <Maeldryn> lotuspsychje: will look at it now
[07:24] <rabel_> lotuspsychje: ok, thx
[07:34] <Maeldryn> lotuspsychje: trying the first solution, going to reboot now and see what that does
[07:35] <Maeldryn> brb
[07:46] <Maeldryn> lotuspsychje: well at least with the first solution im not Alt-F4'ing my work... but now the buttons dont register...
[08:34] <Maeldryn_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help! the second solution in the link you sent me works really well! im happy!
[08:40] <sobczyk> hi, I've tried upstream kernels to find where a bug was introduced, and switch deom 4.13.16 to 4.14-rc1 introduces the bug, is there any method for pinpointing the exact commit?
[08:49] <guiverc> sobczyk, all i can think of is code examination; ie. bug relates to xyz, looking at what patches relate to code near xyz, then examination for what is likely or possible, then removing those patches & re-test...  or just process-of-elimination of possible patches...
[08:51] <sobczyk> I think I'm going to bisect from repo
[08:51] <sobczyk> and execute install scripts by hand
[09:02] <Falc> If I put a password on the root account because I temporarily need it, is there a way to go back to the default configuration afterwards?
[09:14] <Rajeev> hello
[09:15] <Allie`> Falc: what do you mean?
[09:15] <Allie`> Or rather, what are you trying to do?
[09:15] <zetheroo> I had setup a script for 16.04 which mounted smb share on login, but it fails on 18.04 with: mtmounts.sh: 8: mtmounts.sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[09:15] <zetheroo> this is the script: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SZx85f3BMf/
[09:17] <zetheroo> line 8 is: shares=(smb://server/share1 smb://server/share2 smb://server/share3)
[09:17] <Rajeev> I need to combine two Internet connections to ubuntu.Anyone Knows how to use the Bond or Team option in Network Gui,Like the metric shortcut  in windows..
[09:17] <Rajeev> tutorials not working
[09:17] <Falc> Allie: use the root account to setup my ldap connection and then just put it back to its default unusable state. But I already found the answer online
[09:18] <Rajeev> sorry to interrupt Falc
[09:19] <jink> Falc: edit /etc/shadow and put an ! in the password field?
[09:19] <Falc> Rajeev: it's common on IRC to have multiple conversations going on; typically, you'll start your line with the name of the person you're addressing (so no need to apologize for interrupting)
[09:19] <Falc> jink: yup
[09:20] <jink> Great. :D
[09:20] <Rajeev> Falc Ok
[09:23] <jink> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[09:23] <jink> I don't think I ever edited that by hand.
[09:30] <sylvain_> Hi
[09:30] <sylvain_> Is anyone know the answer of this question :
[09:30] <sylvain_> https://discourse.itk.org/t/active-contours-for-a-specific-image/972
[09:31] <adrian_1908> sylvain_: tried other channels? (e.g. ##programming) That's not Ubuntu related at all.
[09:37] <zetheroo> how to install a root certificate system-wide in 18.04 ?
[09:37] <zetheroo> for browsers
[09:58] <marz> How do I set network-authenticated users to have their uids in a different range?
[09:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:06] <jink> So, apt upgrade is complaining "Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported."  This is my /etc/default/grub: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6pvgfxpx6z/
[10:09] <BluesKaj> jink, to get rid of that warning the second line should look like this: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=""
[10:10] <jink> BluesKaj: Thanks.
[10:12] <Lin0Nin0> Hello \o/.. I need some help prasing this rss line.. <lastBuildDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:54:52 +0000</lastBuildDate>, why should this be wrong? EEE, dd MMM yyyy HH:mm:ss Z
[10:14] <fitittome> fresh install 18.04 minimal, settings, sharing =on but no desktop sharing preferences dialog pops up. why?
[10:15] <hanabishi> hello every one
[10:15] <hanabishi> where i'm i?
[10:16] <BluesKaj> ubuntu linux support
[10:19] <Rojola> hi
[10:19] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | hanabishi
[10:21] <Rojola> I have a really weird problem.  A colleague (Mac OS user) uploaded files to my Linux (Ubuntu) Server.  Here is an example of a filename: "DSC01931_30_С.jpg".   However, once the file has been uploaded to my Ubuntu-Server, the file is named:  "DSC01931_30_\320\241.jpg".   Why?!  Why is the "C" written like this now?
[10:22] <hanabishi> thank you, ubottu
[10:24] <Rojola> hanabishi, ubottu is a bot ;)  thank BluesKaj ^.^
[10:26] <Allie`> Rojola: looks like a sideeffect of unicode normalisation to me.  are they using APFS or HFS+?
[10:27] <Rojola> Allie`, you mean the Mac OS user?  I have no idea
[10:27] <Rojola> Allie`, thank you for answering, by the way
[10:27] <BluesKaj> Rojola, perhps there's another jpg file with that DSC name, so it was autorenamed by the server
[10:27] <Allie`> No worries :) I've seen similar weirdness between my mac and a SMB1 share before
[10:27] <Rojola> Allie`, one additional info: When I use "zip -r ..." to zip it all, the filenames get displayed correctly during the zip process (when they are printed during being zipped)
[10:28] <Rojola> BluesKaj, no, all the file names are unique
[10:28] <BluesKaj> DSC is a Sony camera  desgination jpg
[10:28] <Rojola> yeah but they have been edited (photoshop)
[10:28] <Allie`> Rojola: Can you paste the output of `ls -la` in the folder? just the line that shows that jpeg
[10:29] <Rojola> sure Allie` - please hold on for a moment, I must reconnect to the server
[10:30] <Rojola> Allie`, I guess you don't need to owner / creation date / etc.
[10:30] <Rojola> the important part is: "DSC01931_??.jpg"
[10:30] <Allie`> mmmMmm, looks unicode-y
[10:30] <Allie`> what terminal are you using?
[10:30] <Rojola> bash
[10:31] <Allie`> sorry, what terminal *emulator*
[10:31] <Allie`> xterm, gnome terminal, etc
[10:31] <Rojola> when I zip the files, the filenames are being displayed correctly
[10:31] <Rojola> "konsole" of "trinity desktop"
[10:31] <Rojola> trinity desktop is a fork of kde3
[10:32] <Allie`> hmm.
[10:33] <BluesKaj> Rojola, yeah it's kind of cool , used trinity for a while on my RPI3
[10:33] <Rojola> BluesKaj, glad to hear that there are more people out there using it.
[10:33] <Rojola> BluesKaj, Slavek and Tim are putting in a lot of effort
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Rojola, nice to hear that  ;-)
[10:34] <Rojola> I just started the KDE4-konsole  via /usr/bin/konsole  (which opens the default konsole of kde4)
[10:34] <Rojola> same issue... the C is ??
[10:35] <Rojola> now trying gnome-terminal
[10:35] <skishore86> Hi all
[10:35] <Rojola> hi skishore86
[10:35] <skishore86> I need a hel
[10:35] <skishore86> help
[10:36] <skishore86> Recently i made a ubuntu fresh install ubuntu 18.04 lts
[10:36] <Rojola> Allie`, also ?? in the gnome-terminal
[10:36] <skishore86> Bluetooth it disabled.....
[10:36] <skishore86> Not sure how to get that work
[10:36] <skishore86> can some one help mme
[10:37] <hanabishi> everyone i in to a problem about my company
[10:37] <Rojola> skishore86, there is a nice manual entry for that topic
[10:37] <Rojola> skishore86, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/bluetooth-turn-on-off.html.en
[10:37] <Rojola> skishore86, guessing that you are using Gnome
[10:37] <hanabishi> i want a product license Windows server 2003 R2 64 bit
[10:38] <fub> Hi. My apt upgrade is stuck at linux-headers-4.15.0-22-generic since a few hours now, is it safe to kill it?
[10:38] <Rojola> skishore86, if you are using the command line,  try this:
[10:38] <Rojola> skishore86, sudo service bluetooth start
[10:38] <Rojola> skishore86, or, if it does not work, try this:
[10:38] <Rojola> skishore86, /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[10:42] <skishore86> Rojola, Nothing seems to be working
[10:42] <skishore86> Rojola, I have same problem with 16.04 also
[10:42] <skishore86> so only i have moved to 18.04
[10:43] <Rojola> are you sure you...
[10:43] <grgehyd> can i discuss abt ubuntu mate?
[10:43] <skishore86> Rojola, The option of enabling is greyed out
[10:43] <Rojola> 1) your machine has a bluetooth interface
[10:43] <Rojola> 2) the driver is installed / enabled?
[10:43] <Rojola> I am pretty sure the problem will be 2)
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hanabishi, is your question ubuntu related?
[10:44] <skishore86> Rojola, Yes my laptop has bluetooth driver
[10:44] <Rojola> skishore86, can you paste the output of "lspci" to a pasting service of your choice?
[10:44] <Rojola> skishore86, you can try this command:
[10:44] <Rojola> skishore86, lscpi | grep "bluetooth"
[10:44] <skishore86> Rojola, sure
[10:44] <grgehyd> installed ubuntu mate on windows machine through Virtual box. today sound is not coming
[10:46] <Rojola> skishore86, the "grep" part is important. Mind your privacy. We only need little information
[10:46] <adrian_1908> BluesKaj: happen to know answer to fub's question? I'd like to help, but don't wanna give dangerous advice.
[10:46] <hanabishi> BluesKaj, it really not,but i need help, not a commercial license but just a trial license it will help
[10:46] <Rojola> Allie`, are you done with me? ^.^
[10:47] <Allie`> Rojola: Sorry, at work, something's just come up
[10:47] <Allie`> two moments
[10:47] <Rojola> Allie`, I did some research concerning the UTF8 issue, and it seems the files have been transferred via filezilla without using the "Binary" option
[10:47] <skishore86> Rojola, sure will send you the info in a while
[10:47] <Allie`> that is quite likely
[10:47] <Rojola> Allie`, now, however, after these filed have been transferred in the ASCII mode, I cannot think of a way to change it
[10:47] <BluesKaj> adrian_1908, me neither, it could be anything making the kernel hang ...need more details, but probly not vaialble
[10:47] <adrian_1908> k
[10:47] <Allie`> Rojola: i can recommend your colleague uses Cyberduck
[10:47] <BluesKaj> available
[10:48] <Rojola> huh? never heard that one before @Allie`
[10:48] <Allie`> It's pretty great
[10:48] <fub> BluesKaj: what details can I give you?
[10:48] <Rojola> Allie`, oh, I see, just googled it
[10:50] <BluesKaj> fub  do you have any non default kernels installed ?
[10:50] <fub> BluesKaj: no
[10:50] <fub> maybe its just a bug and when I re-run it, it works?
[10:50] <fub> Im on 18.04 btw
[10:51] <BluesKaj> fub, separate / (root) and /home partitions?
[10:51] <fub> BluesKaj: no
[10:52] <skishore86> Rojola, 0a:00.1 Bluetooth: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth
[10:52] <skishore86> Rojola, is that info sufficient
[10:53] <tomeaton17> Is it possible to have 4 workspaces in a grid. I am on ubuntu 17.10 how can I do this
[10:54] <BluesKaj> well fub, that's your call, and i don't know what else you could do, but maybe some more knowledgeable about this issue can help here?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> someone , that is
[10:54] <marz> Using kerberos, it is suggested that network authenticated clients' uid to start at 5000. What is you use the same user for local and network?
[10:54] <fub> BluesKaj: okay, I will try..
[10:59] <fub> BluesKaj: worked.
[10:59] <fub> at least it looks so ;)
[10:59] <BluesKaj> fub run uname -a in the console
[11:00] <Rojola> skishore86, re - sorry I was away.  I am now googling the driver. Hold on.
[11:01] <Rojola> skishore86, I googled the following:
[11:01] <Rojola> skishore86, ubuntu Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth
[11:02] <Rojola> it seems you need an additional driver
[11:02] <Rojola> the search results are very easy to follow through
[11:03] <fub> BluesKaj: 4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu
[11:04] <Rojola> I must take a phone call.
[11:04] <Rojola> thank you Allie`
[11:04] <Rojola> thank you BluesKaj
[11:04] <Rojola> see you all soon
[11:04] <skishore86> Rojola, Thats fine
[11:04] <BluesKaj> fub, ok so the 4.15.0-22-generic didn't install, but if ubuintu is running ok then it's good
[11:06] <fub> ok
[11:07] <BluesKaj> fub, was this just a regular apt upgrade thast caused the hang?
[11:08] <fub> yes
[11:10] <BluesKaj> fub ok, try sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:10] <halt> Hi all, Is there a way to setup network manager to automatically connect to VPN if the wireless network is not on a trusted list ? (on 18.04) and if so how ?
[11:11] <fub> BluesKaj: worked both without problems
[11:11] <zamanf> is there any guide for startup scripts?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> fub, ok , run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:12] <BluesKaj> fub it might not do anything which is fine
[11:14] <fub> BluesKaj: I already had to do this, worked fine so far
[11:16] <BluesKaj> fub, so no dependency errors?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> any ppas in your sources?
[11:16] <interrobangd> hello, why send "systemd-lodingd" boost request to my GPU????? my GPU ist always at max speed!
[11:16] <interrobangd> using ubuntu 17.10
[11:18] <fub> BluesKaj: yes
[11:18] <fub> no dep error
[11:18] <fub> yeah there are a lot PPAs
[11:19] <fub> I need
[11:19] <BluesKaj> fub ppas?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> some ppas aren't maintained and kept up to date so they can cause problems.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> especially when a kernel update is ready in the repos
[11:22] <fub> yeah but I got no error now so I think everything is fine, right?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> fub, are these ppas from launchpad or from individual app developers?
[11:24] <fub> BluesKaj: google (chrome) and keybase.io
[11:24] <fub> I saw most of them are commented out.
[11:26] <BluesKaj> you'll have no error until you try to apt upgrade again
[11:27] <BluesKaj> fub, check /etc/apt/sources.list.d  , chrome should be ok , but maybe keybase should be removed, not the app just the ppa
[11:31] <capncrunch4me> Since upgrade to Bionic, we notice the rx_queue on UDP stays with a queue, regardless of the application
[11:31] <capncrunch4me> netstat -nl|grep ^udp
[11:31] <baxx> after installing minizinc I've opened a new terminal and entered "which minizinc", expecting this to show where it's located, but it doesn't show any path. I installed with sudo apt-get
[11:31] <capncrunch4me> udp     4352      0 0.0.0.0:68              0.0.0.0:*
[11:31] <Mavericks> what's a good link to view man pages on the browser similar to devdocs.io ?
[11:32] <capncrunch4me> we monitor udp backup to make sure our network applications dont starve and this appears to be a bug, or potentially a different way of measuring queue?
[11:32] <baxx> how do I check that an installation like this has worked correctly?
[11:32] <capncrunch4me> it only happens on the rx_queue in /proc/net/udp
[11:33] <BluesKaj> baxx,, try the locate command
[11:34] <capncrunch4me> any suggestions why the queue exists, even on servers that are idle and processes that aren’t network intensive (dhclient, named-resolve)
[11:34] <baxx> Blueking: hrm, nothing comes up other than something in emacs melpa something... This means that the install didn't work?
[11:34] <baxx> BluesKaj: ^
[11:37] <baxx> BluesKaj: this is the install log : https://pastebin.com/raw/pd8hmRZf
[11:39] <baxx> is this #ubuntu or #linux , ?
[11:39] <Allie`> baxx: this is #ubuntu :)
[11:39] <Fuchs> this here would be #ubuntu
[11:40] <baxx> sorry i meant the issue that i had posted
[11:40] <Allie`> If you're having problems with ubntu, this is the correct venue
[11:40] <fub> BluesKaj: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | grep -v "^#"
[11:40] <fub> deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[11:40] <fub> deb http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable main
[11:41] <baxx> Allie`: hm
[11:41] <fub> or is .list.distUpgrade and .list.save also relevant?
[11:41] <cp7781> Question is far to complex in the explanation. Can you make it a bit more difficult? What queue?
[11:44] <cp7781> Oh, wait. You said minizinc? Well, ... What is that?
[11:45] <Allie`> minizinc is a constraint modeling language
[11:45] <Allie`> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constraint_programming
[11:45] <cp7781> Modeling cars?
[11:46] <cp7781> Allie`: Is it a programming language like C, oder more like HTML?
[11:47] <zetheroo> I see that 18.04 uses gio to mount smb shares, but I cannot see where the mountpoint is
[11:47] <cp7781> Damn, I guess that I will have to ask my friend for such stupid questions in academia.
[11:48] <Farrell> Hello, i have a problem. I have server with two network interfaces. One, connected to internet, has own public IP, second is connected to the switch and giving clients IP by DHCP. Everything running well, but i have one problem. There is running zdaemon server on UDP port. Everyone from outside can see the server in the list, but from local network i can't see anything. To connect from LAN, I must type IP of second server interface. An
[11:49] <cp7781> For those interested in optimizations problems: http://www.minizinc.org/
[11:49] <cp7781> Nice website!
[11:49] <Farrell> it running Ubuntu 16.04.4
[11:50] <Allie`> Farrell: silly question, but do you have the firewall configured appropriately?
[11:50] <Allie`> Farrell: also - is the server bound to 0.0.0.0 or the external IP
[11:50] <compdoc> Farrell, sounds like zdaemon is not listening on both
[11:51] <BluesKaj> baxx, sorry, I'm out of ideas
[11:51] <Farrell> Anyway, I should see it, right?
[11:51] <Farrell> must listening on both
[11:52] <Farrell> becouse people from outside can access server on public IP, from LAN i can ONLY access internal server IP
[11:52] <compdoc> no, doesnt need to. Samba, for example only listens on the interfaces you tell it to
[11:52] <Farrell> eternal is my - 83.240.52.8, internal 192.168.1.1
[11:52] <Farrell> *external
[11:53] <compdoc> one nic is external?
[11:53] <Farrell> yes, 83.240.52.8 is public IP
[11:53] <cp7781> Farrell: I can't tell you much about it, but iptables is a software for firewall rules.
[11:54] <cp7781> An easier approach is ufw. But I have not much experience, and can't tell, if it applies to your situation.
[11:54] <Farrell> i now, i set it, this arcicle helped me https://askubuntu.com/questions/590920/ubuntu-14-04-as-a-gateway-router-and-a-firewall
[11:56] <Farrell> server is accessable from both interfaces, but i cant access public IP from LAN... not TCP, it works well
[11:56] <compdoc> Farrell, if you connect to the web without a firewall, its not a good idea
[11:59] <Farrell> I have set some rules, so the risk is not so big... What I need is access 83.240.52.8:10666 (UDP) from LAN
[11:59] <cp7781> Farrell: So, you have a router to the internet, which is also connected to a switch, which acts like a gateway to the local area network? And you want to access the router directly by using the public ip? Well, that is like walking out the door, activate the door bell, to hear it ringing from the inside. Got it? Theoretically you will have to be on two places at the same time.
[12:00] <Farrell> No, the server is my router gateway
[12:00] <Farrell> it runs DHCP
[12:00] <cp7781> Farrell: This is why you need a second instance. A neighbour to access the door bell.
[12:01] <Farrell> The server has two network interfaces
[12:02] <Farrell> Did you read the very first message?
[12:02] <Farrell> Hello, i have a problem. I have server with two network interfaces. One, connected to internet, has own public IP, second is connected to the switch and giving clients IP by DHCP. Everything running well, but i have one problem. There is running zdaemon server on UDP port. Everyone from outside can see the server in the list, but from local network i can't see anything. To connect from LAN, I must type IP of second server interface. An
[12:02] <cp7781> Farrell: I did at least partly. Forgive me.
[12:04] <Farrell> btw. when I want access my public IP from LAN in browser, it works fine
[12:04] <Farrell> only the UDP daemon I cant access
[12:05] <cp7781> Farrell: I'm not the cleverest person when it comes to light bulb changing.
[12:06] <Allie`> Farrell: what IP is the software bound to?
[12:07] <cp7781> Farrell: What do you mean with list? Which software gave you that list?
[12:07] <Farrell> zdaemon client
[12:08] <compdoc> a person with no experience who thinks they can make their own firewall/router that connects directly to the internet is going to get hacked
[12:08] <Farrell> there is problem with routing, not with bounding bad IP in daemon
[12:08] <cp7781> Yes, possibly a misconfigured iptables rule.
[12:08] <Farrell> lol i work years with linux
[12:09] <cp7781> I see.
[12:09] <Farrell> but this is a tricky problem
[12:09] <Farrell> i think you just dont understand me
[12:10] <Farrell> the daemon is bounded good
[12:10] <Farrell> 0.0.0.0
[12:11] <Farrell> i now there is problem in iptables
[12:11] <cp7781> This is not the loopback interface.
[12:11] <Farrell> loopback seems set to the TCP only
[12:17] <cp7781> Take a look at my website: https://cp7781.github.io/index.html
[12:17] <DirtyCajun> i am trying to get tgt to show a lun to my esxi host that is a LVM lv. When i give tgt a .img (or whatever) that i create with dd it works just fine. But any time i try to give it a disk (/dev/sdXX) or a lv (/dev/mapper/xxx/xxx) it doesnt show on the esxi side. any thoughts?
[12:18] <Farrell> thaks for security notice, i forgot turn off password login on ssh
[12:19] <cp7781> Farrell: Now you are breeding?
[12:19] <Farrell> What you mean
[12:20] <cp7781> By the way, I'm german.
[12:20] <cp7781> Brute force attacks can compromise your server. And it sounds like brood, which is connected to breed.
[12:21] <cp7781> So, it's not likely, but you might have guests? Is your server already pregnant with eggs?
[12:23] <cp7781> It might get utilized on a battery.
[12:23] <cp7781> An egg plant.
[12:24] <cp7781> Or just mine cryptocurrency. Check processor usage with htop.
[12:27] <cp7781> I utilize a virtual machine with 4 cores. One is constantly at 100 %. YouTube is very demanding.
[12:28] <compdoc> how many cores on the host?
[12:28] <cp7781> compdoc: The host is a Windows 7 machine with an i5 processor. Not the latest model.
[12:28] <cp7781> compdoc: Just 4 cores.
[12:29] <zetheroo> I installed pidgin-indicator from here https://launchpad.net/~langdalepl/+archive/ubuntu/pidgin-indicator but it's still not showing up
[12:29] <compdoc> i5 is a great cpu, but if you give your guests too many cores, things get hairy
[12:33] <ioria> zetheroo, logout / login ?
[12:33] <Hollusion> My ubuntu server stopped connecting to the internet
[12:33] <Hollusion> Network manager says "device not managed"
[12:34] <Hollusion> I just restarted the xrdp service and then the whole system
[12:34] <Hollusion> What do i do now?
[12:35] <pragmaticenigma> Hollusion: Have you attempted to reboot?
[12:35] <cp7781> Hollusion: Relax. We need to figure out a way to manage the device.
[12:35] <Hollusion> :)
[12:35] <cp7781> Maybe the manager just forgot it?
[12:36] <Hollusion> Yes i did reboot
[12:36] <ioria> Hollusion, what version of server ?
[12:36] <Hollusion> Usually the netmgr automatically creates wired connections
[12:36] <Hollusion> I believe
[12:37] <cp7781> Hollusion: Do you have a GUI available, or just die command line interface (CLI)?
[12:38] <Hollusion> 16.04.4 LTS
[12:38] <Hollusion> Both
[12:38] <cp7781> Hollusion: Do you have a GUI available, or just _THE_ command line interface (CLI)?
[12:38] <ioria> Hollusion,  cat /etc/issue
[12:38] <Hollusion> Gui is available
[12:38] <zetheroo> ioria: done that already
[12:38] <zetheroo> rebooted in fact
[12:39] <Hollusion> Issue is empty
[12:39] <ioria> zetheroo, gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is installed ?
[12:39] <ioria> Hollusion,  are you sure ?
[12:39] <cp7781> Hollusion: Start the GUI, and hammer in the necessary parameters?
[12:39] <zetheroo> ioria: gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is already the newest version (18.04.1).
[12:39] <Hollusion> It only contains ubuntu version
[12:40] <ioria> Hollusion,  which is ?
[12:40] <Hollusion> 16.04.4 LTS
[12:40] <ioria> Hollusion,  ok, what you have in /etc/network/interface ?
[12:41] <ioria> zetheroo,  so that ppa has issues, contact the maintainer
[12:41] <Hollusion> enp0s31f6
[12:41] <ciep> hi, I can't install any browser
[12:41] <ioria> Hollusion,  paste it please
[12:41] <zetheroo>  ioria: issues?
[12:41] <ciep> someone can help me
[12:41] <Hollusion> hard to do without internet connection
[12:42] <cp7781> ciep: Buy an Android device. It will make it much easier to access the web and stuff.
[12:42] <zetheroo> ioria: what makes you think it has issues?
[12:42] <Hollusion> iface enp0s31f6 inet dhcp
[12:42] <adrian_1908> ciep: what browser do you want to install? Ubuntu comes with Firefox by default.
[12:42] <ioria> Hollusion,  so you're using bot NM and /e/n/interface... not good using both
[12:43] <Hollusion> Above that: auto enp0s31f6
[12:43] <ioria> Hollusion, or you stop NM or you use /e/n/i
[12:43] <ciep> Firefox already install. but execute
[12:43] <Hollusion> Maybe the system was never using netmgr, im not 100% sure
[12:43] <ioria> Hollusion, ps -A | grep Network
[12:43] <pragmaticenigma> cp7781: This is not helpful and is not appropriate for this channel. If you would like to help, please stay on topic.
[12:44] <Hollusion> Its running
[12:44] <Hollusion> I stopped the service
[12:44] <ioria> Hollusion, ok, you cannot use both
[12:44] <ioria> Hollusion, it will restart the next boot
[12:44] <ioria> Hollusion, you need to disable
[12:45] <Hollusion> What is the keyword for disabling?
[12:45] <adrian_1908> ciep: you do know how to start programs, no? Where is the problem? You can try WINKEY+W to launch it directly.
[12:45] <ioria> Hollusion, so you don't want to use NM , right ?
[12:45] <Hollusion> service NetworkManager disable did not woek
[12:45] <Hollusion> I dont need to
[12:45] <Hollusion> *work
[12:46] <ioria> Hollusion,  sudo systemctl stop network-manager  &&  sudo systemctl disable network-manager
[12:46] <Hollusion> I dont need nm
[12:46] <adrian_1908> ^^hence the command to disable it
[12:46] <DirtyCajun> lol
[12:47] <Hollusion> Done
[12:47] <ioria> Hollusion,  reboot
[12:47] <Hollusion> Im typing on my phone
[12:47] <Hollusion> Thats why im slow
[12:47] <Hollusion> :)
[12:47] <ciep> adrian_1908: what do mean winkey ?
[12:48] <cp7781> ciep: Sorry, friend. Android isn't a viable choice. You will have to try harder to gain some muscle.
[12:48] <adrian_1908> WINKEY, also called "SUPER", the key that often has a Windows flag on it.
[12:48] <adrian_1908> @ciep:
[12:48] <cp7781> pragmaticenigma: Ban me, please! I have an answer to your dreams.
[12:49] <Hollusion> Its working
[12:49] <Hollusion> Thank you
[12:50] <ioria> ok
[12:50] <troozers> Hi, I have Ubuntu 18.04 on my Dell laptop and every so often while I am working the bluetooth will be killed. I've seen the following within syslog which seems to be relevant https://pastebin.com/ZbwLJBtD
[12:50] <Farrell> problem solved... iptables -A FORWARD -i enp4s5 -o enp3s0f0 -p udp --dport 10666 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[12:51] <cp7781> Arcane knowledge.
[12:52] <pragmaticenigma> troozers: Do you have a device plugged in that is being powered by USB? Like a portable harddrive?
[12:53] <troozers> No, but I am plugged into a USB-C hub
[12:53] <troozers> which gives me power and access to a monitor
[12:55] <ciep> adrian_1908: thanks
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> troozers: try plugging the Bluetooth adapter directly into an available USB port. Also, make sure if the USB hub has a power adapter that you are using it.
[12:55] <troozers> the bluetooth is a built in one - not provided by the USB-C hub
[12:56] <Guest43375> hi
[12:57] <Guest43375> what problem
[12:58] <Allie`> pragmaticenigma: the bluetooth adapter in modern dell machines lives in the screen and is connected to the same internal USB3 bus as the webcam
[12:59] <boboma> Hi. I am looking for a way to start a program with a different user. say I am logged in with user a but I want to run the program with user b. How to do that now with ubuntu 18.04? Things have changed and the old way like it was before does not seem to work anymore...
[13:00] <zetheroo> we have a softphone client which showed a indicator icon in 16.04 but no loner does in 18.04 - is it possible to get it to show in 18.04?
[13:01] <ikonia> zetheroo: is the client in the ubuntu repos ?
[13:01] <deem> boboma: "su $user -c $command"
[13:01] <zetheroo> ikonia: no
[13:01] <deem> boboma: you may need to use sudo
[13:02] <ikonia> zetheroo: so asking the people who make it seems to be the right answer as to why the indicator is not there
[13:02] <zetheroo> ikonia: it's supplied by our voip provider as a .deb
[13:03] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok, I just though that there might be a way to show it in 18.04 as it was there in 16.04
[13:03] <ikonia> zetheroo: ok? how does that change what I said
[13:03] <peter_> hi folks
[13:03] <hollusion_> hello again
[13:03] <webmind> lo
[13:03] <hollusion_> now my initial problem, xrdp keymap is broken for me
[13:04] <peter_> how can i find ip addresses of an apache server in my network?
[13:04] <hollusion_> i created the correct keymap in /etc/xrdp but its still not working
[13:04] <hollusion_> several keys are
[13:04] <hollusion_> not working
[13:04] <pragmaticenigma> oh, ok troozers ... I saw the keyboard disconnect message attached to USB... thought maybe that was how things were tracing
[13:04] <hollusion_> even the arrow keys dont
[13:04] <hollusion_> is there another config file where i can force keyboard layout?
[13:05] <hollusion_> or is this porblem remmina related?
[13:05] <zetheroo> something else - I have 3 monitors connected to my laptop dock. When I get to the login screen it's always showing up on the far right screen - is there any way to assign the login to a particular screen?
[13:05] <ikonia> zetheroo: depends how you're spanning the desktops (with what technology) and if you're using xorg/wayland for the greeter
[13:06] <ikonia> zetheroo: it's anoyingly complex for such a simple and obvious requirement
[13:06] <TvL2386> hey guys, since ubuntu-18.04 comes with netplan, how would one implement pre-up hooks? I found this: https://netplan.io/faq#example-for-an-ifupdown-legacy-hook-for-post-uppost-down-states but I'm not sure if that's the way to go
[13:06] <pragmaticenigma> peter_: If you have access to the apache server, on that machine you can run "ifconfig" and it will tell you the ip address.
[13:07] <boboma> deem, I used to run it like that: sudo -i -u b /usr/bin/java -version
[13:07] <boboma> I had to put user b into visudo list first
[13:07] <boboma> now this does not work anymore.
[13:07] <zetheroo> ikonia: I configured the screens via the default settings area
[13:07] <boboma> visudo seems to be ignored.
[13:08] <zetheroo> ikonia: the greeter is using whatever the default is I guess ... I didn't change anything there
[13:09] <peter_> pragmaticenigma thank you for your answer. but i dont have physical access to that server..
[13:09] <peter_> i thought about kind of an arp or nmap - command
[13:09] <TvL2386> boboma: for executing programs as another user, wouldn't you just do `sudo -u other_user $cmd`
[13:09] <troozers> Yeah @pragmaticenigma, The keyboard and mouse are connected via Bluetooth - the USB thing confused me too
[13:10] <pragmaticenigma> peter_: You can try using nmap, and looking on the network for systems with port 80 and or 443 (assuming apache is default configured) however you will see any and all devices with port 80/443 open
[13:10] <TvL2386> boboma: I can do that just fine on ubuntu 18.04. I'm in the "sudo" group though, and can sudo all around
[13:10] <peter_> pragmaticenigma thank you i ll try that :-)
[13:11] <pragmaticenigma> TvL2386: By default Ubuntu 18.04 does not have sudo available/enabled
[13:11] <TvL2386> pragmaticenigma: really????????
[13:12] <TvL2386> pragmaticenigma: I've got 1 ubuntu-18.04 server running. Installed it with the 18.04-mini.iso and I didn't notice... it's there
[13:12] <adrian_1908> ^ that surprises me too. was this changed for 18.04 or earlier?
[13:12] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: uh what?
[13:12] <boboma> TvL2386, without entering password for the other user?
[13:12] <pragmaticenigma> Just a second people... yeesh...
[13:13] <TvL2386> boboma: correct I don't enter a password. because I have /etc/sudoers.d/my_user file with contents: "my_user    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
[13:13] <pragmaticenigma> My apologies... gksu and gksudo are no longer supported in Ubuntu 18.04
[13:13] <adrian_1908> aight
[13:13] <TvL2386> pragmaticenigma: ha :) Apologies accepted :)
[13:13] <boboma> Hm. I see. Something changed though. So this other user is in sudo group?
[13:14] <TvL2386> boboma: yeah well I'm member of sudo and I have a personal file.... (ansible provisioned that like it's 16.04. I did not notice anything out of the order yet)
[13:15] <boboma> maybe it's because you set it for ALL. I used to set it just for bins I need. And this is not working anymore.
[13:16] <boboma> Also you set it for all users
[13:17] <boboma> But let's say I just want to make it like this: my_user ALL=(b) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/java
[13:17] <boboma> this does not seem to work anymore
[13:18] <TvL2386> I have this on 16.04: "user25      ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl*"
[13:18] <EriC^^> TvL2386: is it at the bottom?
[13:19] <boboma> Wayland or xserver?
[13:19] <TvL2386> EriC^^: dunno, I'll check
[13:20] <TvL2386> EriC^^: got the following contents:
[13:20] <TvL2386> user25      ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl*
[13:20] <TvL2386> user25      ALL=(www-data) NOPASSWD: ALL
[13:20] <boboma> because maybe this makes a difference. Anyways, I will try to set it like your example. But I am sure, this gives too much rights...
[13:20] <BaKKaR> dears, can someone tell me why when i try to install Bubmblebee it asks to remoe kde nd replace it with gnome .. https://pastebin.com/r0QXG0my
[13:20] <BaKKaR> i am using KDE
[13:21] <BaKKaR> *Kde_Neon
[13:21] <TvL2386> user25 uses sudo in cronjobs, so they don't want a password prompt
[13:21] <TvL2386> and user25 is the boss :)
[13:21] <zetheroo> I have my .ssh and /etc/ssh backed-up from 16.04, but restoring them in a fresh install of 18.04 isn't working as I cannot ssh into the systems I was able to on my previous 16.04 install ... is there something else I need to do, or do I have to now setup new ssh keys?
[13:21] <EriC^^> TvL2386: i dont think you can use wildcards in the visudo edit
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: Are you using a 3rd party PPA?
[13:22] <BaKKaR> pragmaticenigma: no, it is KDE Neon
[13:22] <TvL2386> EriC^^: I don't use visudo, but let me try :)
[13:23] <TvL2386> EriC^^: visudo accepted those 2 lines just fine
[13:23] <BaKKaR> Prospero_1: i am installing bumblebee from the official repo
[13:23] <TvL2386> and the result in the file is the same
[13:23] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: PPA has nothing to do with KDE... PPA's are how software distributed for Ubuntu. Where are the instructions you are following to install Bumblebee
[13:23] <mgedmin> zetheroo: double-check file permissions and ownership; ssh is very strict about that
[13:24] <BaKKaR> pragmaticenigma: from the Bubmbelbee Ubuntu WIFKI
[13:24] <mgedmin> zetheroo: also new openssh version dropped support for DSA keys, so if your authorized_keys had lines starting with ssh-dss ..., you'll have to generate new keys
[13:24] <BaKKaR> *WIKI
[13:24] <TvL2386> zetheroo: I agree with mgedmin. Probably a permission problem, because my ubuntu 17.04 .ssh dir works fine on 18.04
[13:24] <BaKKaR> >> https://pastebin.com/r0QXG0my
[13:24] <EriC^^> TvL2386: i dont think wild cards can be used in the command, it doesnt make much sense from a security standpoint
[13:25] <mgedmin> zetheroo: likewise id_dsa, on the client side, is no longer supported
[13:25] <BaKKaR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee*
[13:25] <zetheroo> ok, I just check /etc/ssh/ and all the files are executable ... is that right?
[13:25] <EriC^^> anyone can create some executable with letters after it and get out of just being able to run that one command
[13:25] <TvL2386> EriC^^: well I think it got in there, because `apachectl restart` didn't work without the * if I remember correctly
[13:25] <TvL2386> zetheroo: nope
[13:25] <zetheroo> ok, comparing with the perms set in the default /etc/ssh/ files
[13:26] <TvL2386> zetheroo: keys are 0600 and pub keys are 0644
[13:26] <Aleksandar86> hello
[13:26] <TvL2386> zetheroo: all files are 644 except the private keys, they are 600
[13:26] <Aleksandar86> I have Mikrotik with DHCP and VLANs
[13:26] <TvL2386> zetheroo: owned by root:root of course
[13:26] <zetheroo> this is what the files I copied over look like atm https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ns2B2Hxv6V/
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: preliminary websearch appears that Bumblebee does not support KDE without additional tweaks.
[13:26] <Aleksandar86> I have switch after Mikrotik
[13:26] <Aleksandar86> and Access port
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> with Windows i get IP from Mikrotik
[13:27] <TvL2386> zetheroo: looks like you copied them to an smb/cifs share
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> but not working with Ubuntu
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> I try automatic IP
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> and static on Ubuntu
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> but not working
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: which is possibly why it is doing that. Also, Bumblebee is attempting to install new drivers for X-server... which when X-server is removed, the items dependent on X-server will also be removed
[13:27] <Aleksandar86> any idea?
[13:28] <Allie`> Aleksandar86: which version of ubuntu?
[13:28] <TvL2386> Aleksandar86: if I understand correctly: Windows gets an ip address through DHCP just fine and ubuntu does not?
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: rephrase, Bumblebee appears to have custom X-server modules that require a different X-server installation. Removing the current X-server is going to remove packages with a dependency.
[13:28] <Aleksandar86> TvL2386 yes
[13:28] <boboma> TvL2386, I tried your version: sudo -u b /run/my/program. Still asks for the password. Visudo looks like this: my_main_user      ALL=NOPASSWD: /run/my/program
[13:29] <boboma> are both users in the sudo group?
[13:29] <boboma> in your case?
[13:29] <Aleksandar86> I tried 3 laptop with ubuntu and not working
[13:29] <Aleksandar86> but 100 Windows laptop works good
[13:29] <Allie`> Aleksandar86: Cabled connection or via wireless?
[13:30] <TvL2386> boboma: no the user25 is not in the sudo group. He can only do apache/www-data related things
[13:30] <Aleksandar86> wireless works good on Ubuntu
[13:30] <boboma> hm
[13:30] <TvL2386> boboma: I'm testing this on my local ubuntu-18.04 laptop...
[13:30] <TvL2386> boboma: is your user member of sudo?
[13:31] <TvL2386> boboma: should it be member?
[13:31] <boboma> the main user yes. but no the user I want to run it with
[13:31] <boboma> so user b is not in the sudo group
[13:31] <blackflow> boboma: try    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /run/my/program
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> BaKKaR: first try doing an "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and try again. I think you have some updates pending
[13:33] <boboma> have to logout to make visudo accepting the change
[13:33] <zetheroo> TvL2386 and mgedmin: thanks for the help - it's working now ;)
[13:33] <boboma> Ok, logout is not needed ;)
[13:35] <TvL2386> boboma@cygni:~$ /usr/sbin/boboma_app
[13:35] <TvL2386> -su: /usr/sbin/boboma_app: Permission denied
[13:35] <TvL2386> boboma@cygni:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/boboma_app
[13:35] <TvL2386> hi there
[13:36] <TvL2386> root@cygni:~# cat /etc/sudoers.d/boboma
[13:36] <TvL2386> boboma      ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/boboma_app
[13:36] <TvL2386> uid=1001(boboma) gid=1001(boboma) groups=1001(boboma)
[13:37] <leftyfb> !paste | TvL2386
[13:37] <boboma> @blackflow, TvL2386: sudo -u b /run/my/app works now when setting  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /run/my/app BUT: sudo -i -u does not work anymore. And this is the important part. It sets the environment when running as a different user
[13:37] <TvL2386> sorry ubottu
[13:37] <TvL2386> boboma: -i is interactive shell, use -H
[13:38] <boboma> -H gives: unknown user -H
[13:38] <boboma> where to put that -H?
[13:38] <TvL2386> tom@cygni:~$ sudo -u boboma -H uname
[13:39] <TvL2386> -H, Request that the security policy set the HOME environment variable to the home directory specified by the target user's password database entry.  Depending on the policy, this may be the default behavior.
[13:40] <boboma> I see. Thanks. One last thing: Whats the difference between ALL(ALL) and ALL=(b)?
[13:40] <TvL2386> hmmmmm.... maybe not what you want....
[13:40] <boboma> -H does the trick. Thats what I needed.
[13:40] <boboma> But why do I have to set all and not just (b) as the user that should run the program?
[13:41] <blackflow> boboma: (ALL) means you can sudo AS any user   (b) would mean you can only sudo as user 'b',  ie.   sudo -u b ...
[13:41] <boboma> In 17.10 it worked differently
[13:41] <TvL2386> boboma: I think (ALL) means you can sudo to all users and (b) means you can only sudo to user `b`
[13:41] <TvL2386> what blackflow says :)
[13:41] <boboma> :)
[13:41] <boboma> I thought so. But seeing (b) and runnding sudo -u b does not work
[13:41] <blackflow> it's a bit more involved, the RunAs expressions inside () can specify multiple users, groups, etc...
[13:42] <boboma> so that's why i was confused.
[13:42] <blackflow> boboma: define "does not work"
[13:42] <boboma> it asks for the password
[13:42] <boboma> which it should not
[13:42] <TvL2386> but it's fixed now right?
[13:43] <boboma> ;) Yes, it's fixed. But I do not understand what is wrong with my version. I think (b) should work as well.
[13:43] <boboma> But it does not. Anyways.
[13:43] <TvL2386> so can you post working and failing lines?
[13:43] <boboma> Thanks for your help, @TvL2386 @blackflow
[13:43] <TvL2386> spot the differences :)
[13:43] <TvL2386> and look at the man page -_-
[13:44] <TvL2386> yw boboma
[13:44] <boboma> working line: main_user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /run/my/app
[13:44] <boboma> not working line: main_user ALL=(b) NOPASSWD: /run/my/app
[13:45] <EriC^^> the (b) means you can sudo with the group b
[13:45] <blackflow> boboma: is main_user part of group "sudo" ?
[13:45] <boboma> yes, main user is part of the sudo group
[13:45] <boboma> EriC^^, so b is not the user name but the group?
[13:46] <boboma> Ah, I think I got the logic wrong in that case...
[13:46] <blackflow> b is username.   :b would be group
[13:46] <blackflow> (:b)
[13:46] <EriC^^> yeah that's what i think
[13:46] <boboma> so that line should work
[13:46] <boboma> but it does not
[13:47] <EriC^^> what was the command to change your group? cant recall it
[13:47] <boboma> And it used to work in 17.10 so I thought somehting must have changed with 18.04
[13:47] <blackflow> boboma: try removing main_user from the 'sudo' group
[13:48] <blackflow> boboma: assuming 'main_user' is NOT your regular main user, so you lose access to sudo......
[13:48] <boboma> will this give me pain? ;)
[13:48] <boboma> I mean will I lock myself out of something
[13:48] <boboma> when doing that
[13:48] <EriC^^> it was newgrp
[13:48] <blackflow> boboma: the thing I'm aiming at is some exceptions and overrides that are involved with NOPASSWD and users being in group 'sudo'
[13:49] <blackflow> boboma: so if that's your regular user, the only one with sudo access, DON'T do that.   just use (ALL) and be done with it.
[13:49] <boboma> Ok, but main_user is my main user so removing it from sudo would not be a good idea i guess
[13:49] <boboma> Ok
[13:50] <TvL2386> boboma
[13:50] <boboma> I see and I think i will use (ALL) now. But still strange. Maybe a security policy change
[13:50] <TvL2386> boboma ALL=(tom) NOPASSWD: /bin/ls
[13:50] <TvL2386> what this does is allow user 'boboma' to execute '/bin/ls' as user 'tom'
[13:50] <boboma> TvL2386, does that work for you? does not work for me
[13:50] <EriC^^> TvL2386: as user or as group?
[13:50] <EriC^^> i think just group
[13:51] <blackflow> boboma: one more thing, try setting the NOPASSWD line  _before_  the   %sudo  group definition
[13:51] <TvL2386> works: `sudo -u tom ls -la /home/tom/.ssh/`
[13:51] <TvL2386> works:      boboma@cygni:~$ sudo -u tom ls -la /home/tom/.ssh/
[13:51] <boboma> TvL2386, without entering a password?
[13:51] <EriC^^> well technically, the first ALL means it can do all users
[13:51] <TvL2386> yes without password
[13:51] <blackflow> EriC^^: hosts
[13:52] <blackflow> ALL=(ALL) means   ALL_HOSTS=(ALL_USERS)
[13:52] <boboma> Hm, I have a fresh install and this just does not work here. No clue what is wrong
[13:52] <TvL2386> no EriC^^
[13:52] <TvL2386> boboma@cygni:~$ sudo -u root ls -la /root
[13:52] <TvL2386> [sudo] password for boboma:
[13:52] <TvL2386> Sorry, user boboma is not allowed to execute '/bin/ls -la /root' as root on cygni.
[13:52] <TvL2386> sudo asks for a password and it fails
[13:52] <blackflow> boboma: try change the order of definitions in the sudoers file, put your NOPASSWD line _above_ the %sudo group definition
[13:52] <TvL2386> but when I do `sudo -u tom ls -la /home/tom/.ssh/` it does not ask for a password and it works
[13:53] <blackflow> boboma: to try (b)  I mean
[13:53] <boboma> blackflow, i'll try that
[13:53] <boboma> blackflow, not working
[13:54] <blackflow> bah. I don't know then, sorry.
[13:54] <boboma> no problem. thanks for the help anyways
[13:54] <EriC^^> oh i see, first one is hosts
[13:54] <EriC^^> host as in what though?
[13:55] <blackflow> remote host. thing users over ssh
[13:55] <TvL2386> bbye `$ sudo rm /etc/sudoers.d/boboma && sudo userdel -r boboma`
[13:55] <blackflow> *think
[13:56] <boboma> sudoers.d is already empty
[13:56] <boboma> was empty all the time
[13:57] <TvL2386> I don't touch /etc/sudoers, I just add a file per user in /etc/sudoers.d. My config is pretty simple though
[13:57] <boboma> TvL2386, why should I use userdel?
[13:57] <EriC^^> isn't the host very trivial to change?
[13:57] <boboma> you know what that does
[13:57] <TvL2386> argh don't!!!! :)
[13:57] <TvL2386> boboma: it was just my way of saying: testing with my boboma user is done :)
[13:58] <TvL2386> case closed
[13:58] <boboma> ;)
[13:58] <TvL2386> hope it didn't mess up your system :)
[13:58] <blackflow> EriC^^: sorry, I was wrong. it's for situations where you have one sudoer definition file applied to multiple hosts. it looks up local hostname it appears.
[13:58] <boboma> ok, no worries. Thanks for the help though.
[13:58] <TvL2386> I wonder what that HOST_SPEC is used for in sudoers
[13:58] <blackflow> TvL2386: easy to fix with some liveCD magick :)
[13:58] <TvL2386> hehehe :)
[13:58] <TvL2386> true that
[13:59] <TvL2386> mount, chroot, useradd reboot :)
[13:59] <EriC^^> blackflow: aha i see, thanks
[13:59] <blackflow> and for that I always set up root pass. I find the default no root pass policy a bit ridiculous.
[13:59] <TvL2386> blackflow: same here
[14:00] <TvL2386> I don't allow root logins through ssh, but local console is just fine :)
[14:00] <blackflow> sure, that's different.
[14:02] <TvL2386> afk
[14:10] <_TheAvatar> Hey. I get an error with netplan: "found character that cannot start any token", when trying to make a 01-netcfg.yaml file. It complains about line 1, which is just "network:". What am I missing here?
[14:11] <Rayben> Love at first sight is a personal experience and a common trope in literature: a person, character, or speaker feels an
[14:11] <Rayben> instant, extreme, and ultimately long-lasting romantic attraction for a stranger upon the first sight of that stranger.
[14:11] <Rayben> falling in love is the concept of moving from a feeling of neutrality towards a person to one of love, except in cases of
[14:11] <Rayben> love at first sight where there is an instant and long-lasting bond.
[14:12] <EriC^^> Rayben: you had me at "Rayben has joined #ubuntu" now shut up and ask a support question
[14:15] <Ool> _TheAvatar: my first caracter is # network: is on line 3
[14:17] <_TheAvatar> Ool, I made the file myself from scratch. It doesn't exist by default. I dont have any comments in the file
[14:18] <STINKYPPP> hi all i am trying to use an app image and its not working am running 18.04 bionic beaver mate D.E, here is my paste bin of errors thrown from terminal-any suggestions would be greatly appreciated +)
[14:19] <STINKYPPP> thank you
[14:19] <STINKYPPP> https://pastebin.com/bsn5Xqwv
[14:19] <Ool> I just install a 18.04 without any mod, I have this file. it begin with: #This file describes the network interfaces … …
[14:20] <STINKYPPP> whats inside it (cat)
 whats inside the file
[14:21] <Ool> STINKYPPP: sorry I was speaking with _TheAvatar not you
[14:21] <leftyfb> STINKYPPP: you'll have to contact the developer of Stremio for support
 i get that but id like to know what the error means in a nutshell-all gud no solution needed but id lke to understand the output,if anyone can break it down for me would be greatly appreciated,i dont need the solution just an explaination please
[14:25] <STINKYPPP> an analogy
[14:26] <STINKYPPP> or brief summary of whats going on
[14:27] <_TheAvatar> STINKYPPP, well - there's what I expect in it according to what I googled
[14:27] <_TheAvatar> Ool, I just installed 18.04. Brand new. There's no 01-netcfg.yaml, only 50-cloud-init.yaml with some dhcp stuff
[14:29] <STINKYPPP> and what is that please be a little more direct
[14:29] <compdoc> _TheAvatar, that sounds right
[14:29] <_TheAvatar> well, I have no network on the machine, so let me type what I see in pastebin
[14:30] <STINKYPPP> cool awaiting ur link
[14:31] <_TheAvatar> STINKYPPP, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/86ZGBcW34T/
[14:35] <STINKYPPP> thanks for replying but im not a networking person, or programmer (perhaps irrelevant) I'm not sure what that paste bin is alluding to. Can you spell it out for a tard/noobie
[14:35] <tears> 0
[14:37] <ceibal> hola
[14:38] <_TheAvatar> the strange thing is, if I copy from the 50-cloud-init.yaml to this file, and adjust it, it complains about line 3. If I instead of spaces put 1 tab (I had tabs in my original file), it complains about line 2 instead of 3
[14:38] <_TheAvatar> if I put tabs infront of line 2 and 1, it complains about line 0, so what's the deal?
[14:43] <linocisco> hi
[14:43] <montitofe> bonjour
[14:43] <linocisco> BT-568 bluetooth headset is paired with ubuntu. but sound is not playing from this device
[14:44] <linocisco> I tried turn on and off bluetooth on ubuntu. but still didn't fix
[14:45] <metrum> Hello! Can anyone help me uninstalling Foxit Reader? When I run the uninstaller, nothing seems to happen.
[14:56] <linocisco> hi all
[14:56] <linocisco> who could help me fix bluetooth miniso headset on  ubnutu?
[14:56] <grr12314> yo. how to set date and number formats? and i dont mean the stupid presets for each country. i mean actually set my own format
[14:58] <ocean> linocisco: with alsa, you can type 'pavucontrol' in terminal and on tab output devices you can specify volume for specific output devices
[15:10] <jmgb4> I feel like an idiot here. I somehow hid all the icons on my desktop. Cant find a way to unhide them
[15:12] <memphisto> jmgb4: what DE do you use?
[15:14]  * Blueking slaps baxx around a bit with a large trout
[15:14] <Blueking> you flashed me :O
[15:21] <linocisco> ocean, thanks alot . you help me fix
[15:27] <BaKKaR> guys i am trying t install bubmbelbee on Kde but it is asking me to remove the KDe and install gnome utils ...  https://pastebin.com/r0QXG0my
[15:28] <BaKKaR> can anyone help me please? it is very confusing
[15:31] <BluesKaj> BaKKaR:  on kubuntu?
[15:32] <BaKKaR> BlueSkaj: on KDE-Neon
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !neon
[15:35] <BaKKaR> BluesKaj: i though someone might have an idea why it would not install with this weired error massage
[15:37] <BluesKaj> BaKKaR:  ask in #kde-neon chat
[15:38] <BaKKaR> thx
[15:44] <TwoIce> Hi. I'm running bionic. I have 6 disks in a zfs raidz2 pool and another (single) disk with zfs on as well. zfs send pool1@snapshot > pool2/somefile will start with a speed of about 35 MB/s and then gradually and slowly decrease. Now after about 12 hours the speed is about 2-3 MB/s.
[15:44] <TwoIce> Could anyone help me identify where the bottleneck is?
[15:59] <annihilator> How do I setup lvm with multiple disks?
[16:00] <ioria> well, lvm has been thought  for multiple disks :P
[16:07] <TvL2386> annihilator: check tutorials :)
[16:11] <TvL2386> annihilator: but it's pretty easy: lets say you have /dev/xdb and /dev/xdc which are unused. You could use them `pvcreate /dev/xdb ; pvcreate /dev/xdc ; vgcreate vg01 /dev/xdb /dev/xdc ; lvcreate ... ` (from the top of my head though!!!)
[16:12] <jmgb4> Sorry got distracted. I accidentally hid the icons on the default desktop...
[16:13] <annihilator03> which is easier to setup and get optimal speed bcach or lvmcace?
[16:17] <TvL2386> annihilator03: http://strugglers.net/~andy/blog/2017/07/19/bcache-and-lvmcache/
[16:17] <TvL2386> annihilator03: I have no idea myself... Never looked into that
[16:18] <TvL2386> I just use LVM
[16:18] <annihilator03> lvm is great but i have 1 ssd and 4 hdds
[16:19] <annihilator03> and i was going to boot off of ssd but have my raid 0 cache off of the ssd as well
[16:21] <TvL2386> annihilator03: is that a desktop or a server? What's the workload? Why looking into raid and lvm? What is it you want to accomplish?
[16:23] <annihilator03> desktop
[16:23] <annihilator03> gaming and coding
[16:23] <annihilator03> raid 0 is for storage
[16:24] <annihilator03> use a computer and not have to constantly move files between 4 1tb hdds
[16:24] <designbybeck> Does Ubuntu 18.04 use Wayland? Mir? What is drawing the screen?
[16:24] <mpmc> xorg
[16:26] <nacc> designbybeck: --^
[16:26] <nacc> there is a tech preview of the wayland session as well, but not the default
[16:27] <kqbe> allo
[16:27] <designbybeck> nacc, I'm trying to get OBS Studio to work...everything seems fine and I see icons on the desktop along with the mouse. But none of the windows/programs or Desktop BG
[16:27] <nacc> designbybeck: I don't know what OBS Studio is
[16:28] <designbybeck> http://obsproject.net nacc  for screen recording and such
[16:28] <nacc> designbybeck: a
[16:28] <nacc> *ah
[16:28] <kqbe> can someone buy me pubg i got no money
[16:28] <nacc> designbybeck: start it from a terminal and see if it reports an error?
[16:28] <nacc> kqbe: that is offtopic for this channel.
[16:29] <za1b1tsu> Anybody with a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) managed to make their webcam work?
[16:30] <qswz> how to open the file manager from terminal?
[16:30] <qswz> please
[16:30] <designbybeck> nacc, does this help? https://hastebin.com/rehijibune.sql
[16:32] <nacc> qswz: `nautilus` ?
[16:32] <nacc> designbybeck: really don't know, sorry
[16:33] <qswz> ok thanks
[16:33] <designbybeck> well gee
[16:33] <designbybeck> thanks though nacc
[16:34] <designbybeck> How about another question in Ubuntu 18.04 how do you change from Super key back to Alt key for mouse drag?
[16:34] <designbybeck> window move
[16:34] <kqbe> w
[16:36] <microwaved_> anyone knows something about psad ids?
[16:36] <kqbe> how do u hide user info on xchat
[16:37] <nacc> designbybeck: they both do it here
[16:38] <designbybeck> mine doesn't nacc
[16:38] <designbybeck> only with super key
[16:38] <designbybeck> Super key and LMB
[16:38] <designbybeck> I want it the old way ALT + LMB
[16:38] <designbybeck> I have tweaks installed but didn't see it there
[16:48] <nacc> designbybeck: under tweaks -> keyboard -> additional layout options -> maybe somethign is checked there for alt/win ?
[16:56] <butax42> @find Richard Roberts
[16:57] <microwaved_> anyone knows anything about psad IDS and how to configure it on ubunut 16.04 LTS?
[16:57] <microwaved_> icm with UFW
[17:19] <Sir_Andrei> Hi
[17:19] <Sir_Andrei> Ppl, i have a strange problem.
[17:19] <Sir_Andrei> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1052:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:20] <Sir_Andrei> That's the problem. It's occur when I try to use my mic with pyaudio
[17:25] <Sven_vB> where's ubottu gone?
[17:25] <nacc> Sven_vB: still there...
[17:26] <Sven_vB> oh indeed, then it's a bug in my IRC client.
[17:29] <Sir_Andrei> Sorry, i've fixed it.
[17:29] <Sir_Andrei> It was such a stupid mistake, i was using pavucontrol when trying to record.
[17:30] <sysrpl> hello
[17:30] <sysrpl> hey can someone please help me resolve strange problem? at both lightdm and gdm3, i can move my mouse, but left click don't ativate anything. they only cancel. as a result i cannot change my xsession. also, relate in cinnamon, the task panel doesn't not respond to left clicks as well
[17:31] <sysrpl> but i can use left clicks everywhere else
[17:32] <leftyfb> sysrpl: what version of ubuntu?
[17:32] <leftyfb> sysrpl: cat /etc/issue
[17:32] <sysrpl> 18.04
[17:33] <leftyfb> sysrpl: is it ubuntu or mint or some other distro based on ubuntu?
[17:33] <sysrpl> right now i am stuck in cinnamon
[17:33] <sysrpl> actually it's debian stretch
[17:34] <leftyfb> sysrpl: that's not supported here
[17:34] <leftyfb> sysrpl: try #debian
[17:34] <sysrpl> okay my bad
[17:34] <sysrpl> it's 18.04
[17:34] <leftyfb> sysrpl: what distro did you install?
[17:34] <leftyfb> sysrpl: did you get the iso from ubuntu.com?
[17:34] <sysrpl> ubuntu
[17:34] <sysrpl> 64 bit
[17:35] <leftyfb> sysrpl: what does this say exactly? (copy/paste)  cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <ajcd1sc1ple> hm....
[17:36] <ajcd1sc1ple> Download other OS and come to #ubuntu for support???
[17:36] <sysrpl> Ubuntu 18.04
[17:36] <leftyfb> sysrpl: that's not the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[17:36] <oerheks_> mint has its own issues
[17:37] <leftyfb> sysrpl: hostnamectl status | pastebinit
[17:42] <sysrpl> https://pastebin.com/dpJR0jdR
[17:42] <sysrpl> sorry
[17:42] <sysrpl> i can't click on tabs
[17:42] <sysrpl> so i couldn't get back to chat
[17:43] <marz> I want to request a ticket during login, it says to invoke the command sudo auth-client-config -a -p kerberos_example but what does kerberos_example should be?
[17:46] <leftyfb> sysrpl: This is running in VM? Or is it Bash for Windows?
[17:57] <nikhuge> hello people
[17:57] <ajcd1sc1ple> nikhuge: hello you.
[18:06] <qswz> !hello
[18:07] <qswz> @hello
[18:07] <qswz> sometimes there are facts for that, nvm
[18:08] <BluesKaj> qswz:  no need for @ on irc
[18:09] <qswz> I know, just trying to invoke a potential bot
[18:09] <BluesKaj> q usse ! for bots
[18:09] <BluesKaj> use even
[18:12] <transhuman> any recent tricks for ubuntu 18.04 to get sound working, my computer is silent
[18:13] <transhuman> I have looked at alsamixer and it seems to see the headphones but no sound
[18:14] <BluesKaj> transhuman:  make sure automute is disabled in alsamixer for starters
[18:16] <BluesKaj> and all relevant vol ctls are over 80%
[18:16] <BluesKaj> with no MM (mute) in bottom box
[18:18] <transhuman> thanks i will chekc on the automute, funny thing is I didnt even see that setting
[18:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's on the far right, easy to miss
[18:22] <BluesKaj> it's prevent users from blasting themselves in case theyhave the vols cranked waaay up
[18:22] <BluesKaj> to prevent
[18:24] <pressure679> Some weird stuff has changed from 14.04 to 18.04 - which did not change from 14.04 to 16.04
[18:24] <pressure679> Just minor stuff of apps.
[18:25] <tomreyn> is this a support rrequest or a bug report?
[18:25] <pressure679> This is LTS.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> systemd from 14.04 to 16.04
[18:25] <nacc> pressure679: are you just chatting? or do you have a support question
[18:25] <nacc> m211dc: please do not pm.
[18:25] <motte> ive got a question
[18:26] <nacc> !ask | motte
[18:26] <motte> right, why is my 18.04 server aggressively using swap, even though swappiness is set to 1
[18:27] <nacc> motte: are you overcommitting your memory?
[18:27] <motte> no, i have 4gb of ram and 4gb of swap
[18:27] <nacc> motte: what does `free -m` say
[18:28] <nacc> motte: your answer also completely did not answer my question.
[18:28] <motte> right now about 800mb of ram is used and about 1.5gb of swap is used
[18:28] <motte> i dont really understand the concept of overcommiting memory
[18:28] <pressure679> nacc: I - I do not want to complain, but it is mildly confusing why it had to change, like camel casing in config files and a .org address changed to .net, chat.* etc., irssi having troubly with scrolling in tmux, /etc/environment not accepting extra path env vars, ctrl + alt + f1-f7 not working.
[18:29] <pressure679> The OS itself; nice++
[18:29] <motte> i'm not running any vm's, probably the most resource intensive program is seafile
[18:30] <tomreyn> motte: vmstat -s | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <tomreyn> this gets us better stats
[18:30] <nacc> tomreyn: good point
[18:30] <nacc> pressure679: you are asking why software changes?
[18:31] <motte> http://termbin.com/bqml
[18:31] <pressure679> nacc: I am not asking, but if you provide support I will appreciate it.
[18:32] <nacc> pressure679: well, that's not exactly a support topic. software changes because someone decided it should.
[18:34] <oerheks_> pressure679, the changes you meet, is linux wide: wayland, systemd, amdgpu ....
[18:34] <oerheks_> so be happy
[18:34] <pressure679> nacc: Do you want a "text searching program" for the askubuntu website? (Mid 2017 version).
[18:35] <pressure679> You can download the updated askubuntu archive yourself, I just only have the 2017 version.
[18:37] <nacc> pressure679: why are you asking me that? I really don't care about AU.
[18:38] <tomreyn> motte: you have lots of inactivate memory. this is that was allocated to a process that is no longer running (according to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18529723/what-is-active-memory-and-inactive-memory which also states a way to free this memory).
[18:41] <tomreyn> motte: sorry, that was false information. see this instead: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/305606/linux-inactive-memory
[18:45] <motte> thanks for the information, but what should i do to solve my problem?
[18:48] <motte> would turning swap off completely be a bad idea? i rarely get over 70% of ram usage
[18:49] <massprog> hi, is it necessary to create separate root , boot , home directory ?
[18:49] <massprog> hi, is it necessary to create separate root , boot , home partition?
[18:50] <oerheks_> massprog, no, currently ubuntu uses 1 partition for all, not a swap partition but a swapfile
[18:50] <memphisto> motte: you'll needed once and you woudn't have then; plus you already have it as swappartition-already lost space
[18:50] <oerheks_> but you can ...
[18:50] <massprog> is it affect on performance ?
[18:50] <memphisto> oerheks_: since 18.04 is only a swapfile ?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> massprog:  not necessary , but it's advantageous to have / and /home on separate partitions, boot not so much
[18:51] <oerheks_> yes, performance increases dramaticly .. as the / will not run out of space with kernel garbage
[18:52] <massprog> how much size is good for root partition?
[18:52] <CarlFK> um.. I don't think running out of disk is a performance issue.  given that, no, more partitions won't affect performance
[18:52] <oerheks_> !partitioning
[18:52] <BluesKaj> 15G for / is plenty
[18:52] <oerheks_> good is an opinion
[18:53] <massprog> thank you so much for your answers
[18:53] <oerheks_> memphisto, swpfile by default, yes, but upgraders still have the swap partition AFAIK
[18:54] <memphisto> thats a big change
[18:58] <massprog> sorry for asking again if I don't separate partition os speed will be okay?
[19:00] <oerheks_> sure, swap partition is still supported
[19:02] <TheMontyChrist> how can I tell what my proxy is?
[19:02] <TheMontyChrist> if it's configured via autoproxy?
[19:05] <tomreyn> !who | motte
[19:05] <tomreyn> motte: solve which problem? do you have a problem, which one?
[19:06] <oerheks_> env | grep proxy
[19:07] <motte> !tab
[19:08] <microwaved_> cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[19:08] <microwaved_> proxy config at:
[19:08] <microwaved_> /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/30proxy
[19:09] <motte> tomreyn: my problem is ubuntu using swap space aggressively. this seems to be slowing the system down a lot
[19:10] <tomreyn> motte: i see. i guess you'd need to inspect the process list and see which process is causing this. what you see there can be a process leaking memory.
[19:11] <tomreyn> motte: see also this https://serverfault.com/questions/132088/what-can-cause-an-increase-in-inactive-memory-and-how-to-reclaim-it/330566#330566
[19:12] <motte> tomreyn: how would i go about finding the process that is leaking memory? i have a suspicion that it might be seafile
[19:12] <memphisto> smem
[19:12] <Gnjurac> can i make live usb somhow persisitan i just need ot have mono 12 and  100mb folde
[19:12] <TheMontyChrist> can apt-get use autoproxy?
[19:13] <ioria>  TheMontyChrist yes, but why ?
[19:13] <tomreyn> motte: "ps auxw" maybe a good start. i don't know "smem" (which meephisto just suggested), but its descrition sounds like it may help, too.
[19:13] <TheMontyChrist> because I can't connect
[19:14] <TheMontyChrist> I'm assuming it's a proxy thing
[19:14] <TheMontyChrist> I can surf the web, but I can't use apt-get
[19:14] <ioria>  TheMontyChrist have yo set a proxy for that ?
[19:14] <TheMontyChrist> I was under the impression yes
[19:14] <ioria> under the impression ?
[19:15] <memphisto> motte: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-which-process-is-using-swap/
[19:15] <CoJaBo> So, I'm periodically losing the ability to connect to either IPv4 or IPv6 internet addresses from this laptop, for infrequent but long periods of time. Local addresses always work fine. System is Kubuntu Bionic (18.04), card is Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter. No other device on the network (wifi or wired) ever encounters this issue. Where would I even start in debugging this?
[19:15] <TheMontyChrist> so you're saying I don't need a proxy to use apt-get?
[19:15] <TheMontyChrist> I'll unset it
[19:16] <memphisto> TheMontyChrist: are you behind a proxy ? if yes youll need proxy set for apt
[19:16] <TheMontyChrist> yes, I'm behind a proxy
[19:16] <TheMontyChrist> but it's an autoproxy
[19:17] <memphisto> wget that autoproxy url and youll get a file
[19:17] <memphisto> open it and you can choose one proxy url from there
[19:17] <TheMontyChrist> just did it
[19:17] <memphisto> open it
[19:17] <TheMontyChrist> it's a huge faile
[19:17] <TheMontyChrist> file
[19:17] <memphisto> choose one url
[19:17] <memphisto> ping it
[19:17] <TheMontyChrist> looks like it might resolve to "DIRECT"
[19:18] <memphisto> put it as your proxy
[19:20] <Gnjurac> can i run setup wizard form allready installed ubuntu
[19:20] <Gnjurac> i want to install in on USB
[19:21] <ioria> Gnjurac, use debootstrap
[19:21] <Gnjurac> or does it only exist on Live iso
[19:21] <Gnjurac> ok will try
[19:21] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: you can boot the installer from ons usb stick  and install to another. or you can run the installer in a VM and attach (passthrough) the target USB stick to it.
[19:22] <Gnjurac> hmm i dont have 2 usb :( , but can try whit VM
[19:22] <Gnjurac> ty for suggestion
[19:27] <motte> thank you for your help tomreyn and memphisto, i'll look into it
[19:28] <microwaved_> who's a mod in this channel?
[19:29] <microwaved_> there's a user in this channel that sends me weird stuff
[19:29] <microwaved_> can anyone help me with this behavior
[19:30] <microwaved_> can anyone see my messages?
[19:30] <kostkon> microwaved_, y
[19:31] <microwaved_> you a mod?
[19:31] <microwaved_> kostkon: ok good thanks
[19:31] <oerheks_> ket me guess, x211dc0?
[19:31] <oerheks_> c/let
[19:31] <microwaved_> no m211dc
[19:32] <microwaved_> sends me messages like : search " Chatmaster CF " on google
[19:32] <microwaved_> sends me : are you meeting people?
[19:32] <microwaved_> and then that url
  Hello
[19:32] <forkup> on join
[19:32] <skel> microwaved_:  /ignore <user>
[19:33] <oerheks_> m211dc, you were asked not to PM, thanks.
[19:33] <TwoIce> Hi. I'm running bionic. I have 6 disks in a zfs raidz2 pool and another (single) disk with zfs on as well. zfs send pool1@snapshot > pool2/somefile will start with a speed of about 35 MB/s and then gradually and slowly decrease. Now after about 12 hours the speed is about 2-3 MB/s.
[19:33] <TwoIce> Could anyone help me identify where the bottleneck is?
[19:34] <microwaved_> skel: thanks
[19:34] <skel> TwoIce: are you using dedupe / compression?
[19:34] <skel> microwaved_: *thumbs-up*
[19:34] <TwoIce> skel: no
[19:35] <skel> TwoIce: I'm no zfs guru but I know that will impact performance based on how much memory etc you've got
[19:35] <TwoIce> CPU is at 0%
[19:35] <microwaved_> skel: some people are really weird
[19:35] <nacc> microwaved_: skel: i've informed the ops as well
[19:35] <TwoIce> skel: so I've heard. Thanks
[19:35] <kostkon> microwaved_, 99% it's a bot
[19:36] <Gnjurac> tomreyn:  hmm my usb wont show in VM , i think i need some vbox expansion pack
[19:36] <skel> TwoIce: have you tried digging in with tools like sysdig / iotop / iostat ?
[19:36] <skel> TwoIce: and is that just user cpu or also kernel cpu?
[19:37] <TwoIce> skel: I'm using iostat to see the speed. That's how I know it's 2-3 MB/s
[19:37] <TwoIce> My point with 0% was that if there was any compression, it would not be the bottleneck in this case (since then the cpu would be close to 100%)
[19:38] <memphisto> TwoIce: are you using any RAID controller below?
[19:39] <skel> TwoIce: yeah, makes sense. just brainstorming :)
[19:39] <TwoIce> memphisto: No. It's only luks between zpool and sdX
[19:40] <microwaved_> kostkon: thnx for the reference
[19:40] <microwaved_> nacc: thanks buddy i appreciate that a lot
[19:40] <memphisto> TwoIce: are you on a server or desktop machine
[19:41] <TwoIce> memphisto: disktop
[19:41] <TwoIce> desktop
[19:41] <memphisto> oh ok
[19:41] <memphisto> so 6 sata disk
[19:41] <memphisto> luks
[19:41] <memphisto> zpool
[19:41] <TwoIce> Yes
[19:42] <genii> @comment 78325 PM spambot
[19:43] <TwoIce> And a 7th disk sata, luks, zpool
[19:43] <memphisto> have you checked the S.M.A.R.T. of the disks
[19:43] <TwoIce> witch is where I store the backup
[19:43] <TwoIce> memphisto: Yes. They are all good
[19:43] <TwoIce> both short and long tests as well.
[19:44] <microwaved_> genii: what is that reference?
[19:44] <hggdh> microwaved_: internal data we keep on actions
[19:44] <Gnjurac> beh i installed ththis expension part but usb still dosent show
[19:44] <microwaved_> hggdh: ah sweet
[19:45] <genii> microwaved_: It's a note for the bot to add to our ban tracker which tells other moderators why a user was banned
[19:45] <microwaved_> genii: does it occur regularly then?
[19:45] <microwaved_> genii: did you kick that user that i mentioned earlier?
[19:45] <genii> microwaved_: Making notes about bans?
[19:45] <microwaved_> genii: no the spammers
[19:46] <memphisto> TwoIce: and have you tried changing io scheduler
[19:46] <genii> microwaved_: It depends on the day.
[19:46] <genii> ( and channel modes )
[19:46] <microwaved_> genii: fair enough , i'm glad there's an active service on it, thanks
[19:46] <TwoIce> memphisto: No. How does this work?
[19:47] <memphisto> memphisto@home:/sys/block/sda/queue$ cat scheduler
[19:47] <memphisto> noop deadline [cfq]
[19:47] <memphisto> try changing to something else
[19:47] <memphisto> i have it on cfq
[19:47] <memphisto> and do tests
[19:47] <memphisto> to see if it helps
[19:47] <memphisto> sudo echo noop > /sys/block/hda/queue/scheduler
[19:48] <memphisto> just for an exampler
[19:48] <memphisto> *example
[19:48] <TwoIce> noop deadline [cfq]   <-- does this mean cfq is selected?
[19:48] <memphisto> yes. but try other values
[19:49] <memphisto> test them
[19:49] <TwoIce> Ok. Ill do that
[19:49] <TwoIce> Thanks!
[19:49] <memphisto> and see if you have any progress
[19:49] <memphisto> Gnjurac: evo probaj ovaj link https://www.computersnyou.com/85/install-linux-on-usb-drive-using-virtualbox/
[19:49] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: i dont think you need the proprietary (but free for non commercial use) extension pack for it, although it will be much slower.
[19:50] <memphisto> TwoIce: are those SSDs?
[19:51] <TwoIce> No. Good old spinning drives
[19:51] <TwoIce> "nas disks"
[19:51] <Gnjurac> memphisto:  da al govno mi ne pokazuje usb u VM
[19:51] <TwoIce> wd red etc.
[19:52] <Gnjurac> tomreyn:  yep i installed that garbage form oracle but my usb still dosnet show life sux
[19:53] <Gnjurac> is there some allredy live pesistent usp debian/ubunt based distro i can just burn to usb to envade all this hassle
[19:53] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: you'd still need to pass it through to the VM.
[19:54] <Gnjurac> how to do that
[19:55] <Gnjurac> when i go to settings i USB it dosent show
[19:55] <Gnjurac> and on other turtorilas it says it should show
[19:55] <memphisto> I'm doing the same now, and it doesn't show USB disk
[19:56] <Gnjurac> memphisto:  did you install that oracle extension pack ?
[19:57] <memphisto> yes
[19:58] <tomreyn> there's another way to do it, also without the extensions. you can just use the command line utilities to attach the target usb stick as a raw physical device to the VM
[19:59] <Gnjurac> any soruce on that?
[19:59] <nikki_s-00> vmware player rules!
[19:59] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[20:00] <Gnjurac> will read
[20:00] <nikki_s-00> try vmware player, free for non commercial use.
[20:01] <memphisto> or...install it to small disk , size of the USB or better yet a bit less, then when done. do VBoxManage clonehd --format RAW usb.vdi usbflash.img; then do dd if=usbflash of=/dev/sdx.......maybe its a bit complicated, but it should work
[20:02] <oerheks_> nikki_s-00, but then he would be out of support here, gna gna
[20:02] <nikki_s-00> hm.
[20:02] <nikki_s-00> i just gave up on virutalbox. i cannot install a guest os such as windows! :/
[20:04] <systemfive> Hoping this is the right place for support. I'm on 18.04. Fresh install. Trying to run "sudo apt-get allow OpenSSH" but get the error:
[20:04] <systemfive> ERROR: Could not find a profile matching 'OpenSSH'
[20:04] <systemfive> sorry, sudo ufw allow OpenSSH*
[20:05] <oerheks_> sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp && sudo ufw logging on && sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw status
[20:05] <tomreyn> systemfive: maybe try just ssh, i'm not sure what the profile is called (nor whether one exists)
[20:06] <oerheks_> it is case sensitive
[20:07] <systemfive> sudo ufw allow ssh worked, I guess OpenSSH is deprecated on 18.04? idk
[20:08] <oerheks_> to install as package, yes, but as command, never been
[20:10] <blackflow> systemfive: OpenSSH is the full package/program name. just "ssh" is defined in /etc/services
[20:10] <tomreyn> sudo ufw app list  # lists application profiles. my 18.04 test installation only knows of 'CUPS', not anything ssh. so i guess this is not an application profile but rather just a service name (as in /etc/services)
[20:11] <Gnjurac> life sux when no 2 usb
[20:12] <Gnjurac> whit sudo VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename /home/vlasnik/Documents/VirtualBox/mojusb.vmdk -rawdisk /dev/sdb and i chmod 777 it gives error acces dienied bla bla
[20:14] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: place the .vmdk in /tmp
[20:14] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: i mean let VBoxManage create it there
[20:15] <Gnjurac> oh
[20:15] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: you may also need to: sudo adduser vlasnik disk   # and logout and login again.
[20:20] <Gnjurac> tomreyn:  sodo adduser vlasnik /tmp/mojusb.vmdk like this ?
[20:21] <Gnjurac> nah it asks for group not file
[20:21] <microwaved_> have a good night everyone i'm done for the day, thanks for helping me out
[20:25] <Gnjurac_> ty it worked
[20:25] <Gnjurac_> or at least i started vm
[20:25] <Gnjurac_> will see how it ogoe on
[20:35] <michal_f_home> hello all. I recently updated to 18.04. Now windows have no traditional minimize button in a corner
[20:35] <michal_f_home> like this: https://imgur.com/a/fjZbgGW
[20:35] <michal_f_home> is it expected ?
[20:36] <_KaszpiR_> michal_f_home try Window Manager and on first pane there is an option to add/remove buttons
[20:37] <_KaszpiR_> (at least under xfce, not sure about unity)
[20:39] <annihilator> Can I change mount point for /home after install?
[20:40] <michal_f_home> _KaszpiR_, thanks. WindowManager is some kind of configuration application ?
[20:42] <michal_f_home> before upgrade, under 16.x I was using cinnamon. not sure what I have after update :)
[20:45] <_KaszpiR_> michal_f_home yeah, to be precise it's xfwm4-settings under xfce
[20:45] <Bashing-om> michal_f_home: At the password screen is a cog in the lower right of the entry window, what shows in that drop down ?
[20:48] <michal_f_home> so what can I actually do to restore 'minimize'? I'm a bit lost
[20:49] <_KaszpiR_> michal_f_home try with gnome-tweak-tool
[20:50] <_KaszpiR_> unless you're on unity ;/
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Kamots: Or wayland - in 18.04 :)
[20:51] <_KaszpiR_> maybe dconf-editor
[20:51] <_KaszpiR_> wayland is out of LTS
[20:52] <michal_f_home> Bashing-om, the thing is, my system boots into console, no GUI. it happened after update
[20:53] <michal_f_home> I just do startx to get to gui
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Kamots: Nope .. just no longer the default .. one can still boot with the wayland DE if desired ( I do ) .
[20:55] <Bashing-om> michal_f_home: And if you activate the guest account .. does the GUI work ? Trying to isolate to a user account issue .
[20:56] <michal_f_home> ok I added new user to test.
[20:57] <michal_f_home> startx is the correct way to bring up GUI if it won't come up after reboot now ?
[20:57] <michal_f_home> I guess I need to reboot unless there's faster way to test
[20:58] <nikki_s-00> michal_f_home, it should bring up X! ;)
[20:58] <nikki_s-00> i've not seen that since slackware
[20:58] <michal_f_home> so how do I start desktop ?
[20:59] <Bashing-om> michal_f_home: Short answer - startx - no .. not unless you are running xfce ,, and under systemd - am still not certain startx is apptoporiate in xfce .
[20:59] <nikki_s-00> not sure bud. i'm kinda new.
[20:59] <jmgb4> I feel like an idiot here. I somehow hid all the icons on my desktop. Cant find a way to unhide them. I am on the default desktop that comes with Ubuntu
[21:00] <michal_f_home> ok. let me just reboot and see what happens. be back in 5 minutes
[21:01] <nikki_s-00> uhm. i was having a problem with virtualbox, seems to be installing just fine after a clean install of ubuntu :)
[21:03] <nikki_s-00> that may sound kinda stupid, and i agree it sounds like an app specific problem. so anyway i reinstall the os.. and virtualbox is doing just great..
[21:05] <SporkWitch> nikki_s-00: check out qemu-kvm, it's awesomesauce.  And if you need a GUI to handle configuration, there's virtmanager for it
[21:06] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[21:07] <dury> trying to boot 18.04 in lenovo yoga 300
[21:08] <dury> did this "dd if=ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sd"
[21:08] <gr3nax> i
[21:08] <gr3nax> ji
[21:08] <gr3nax> hi
[21:09] <dury> doesn't boot though :-(
[21:09] <nikki_s-00> SporkWitch, hmm. okay. will do. i just got like mobile messages followed by a phone call.. and jeez . i love the electonic world. thank you, will check it out !! :)
[21:09] <skel> dury: add bs=1MB at the end (if using dd from linux)
[21:10] <skel> dury: also it should be something like of=/dev/sdb (something after sd)
[21:10] <michal_f_home> so my OS boots into console still. Will google this now ...
[21:11] <gr3nax> hoi
[21:11] <dury> skel, so it would be dd if=ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sd bs=1MB  right?
[21:12] <hggdh> dury: expect that yur output device seems to be missing a letter
[21:12] <nacc> unlikely to be /dev/sd if you mean that verbatim, it will be something with that as a prefix
[21:12] <dury> all right hggdh
[21:13] <blackflow> dury: just copy it.   sudo cp ubuntu-18.04..... /dev/sdc     or whatever sd* device it is
[21:13] <hggdh> blackflow: that will not work if you want to create a bootable media
[21:13] <blackflow> hggdh: sure will
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[21:14] <blackflow> dd-ing or cp-ing to a BLOCK device is same thing, with cp doing it a bit more optimized.
[21:16] <dury> blackflow, sure?
[21:16] <max3> can someone help me out? i just got a laptop with an intel 9462 nic that isn't recognized. from what i gather i think i need this firmware https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1734243
[21:17] <max3> but i'm not quite sure how to get it (there seem to be several packages downloadable from launchpad
[21:17] <Bashing-om> michal_f_home: Do "you" own /home ? pastebin ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' .
[21:17] <blackflow> dury: yea. you can figure out which device it is by running     dmesg | tail   right after you plug in the USB thingy .  Might require sudo, depending on your setup.
[21:17] <max3> also there's nic-firmware? is that the right one actually?
[21:18] <max3> is this the correct package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/nic-firmware/1.173 ?
[21:18] <blackflow> max3: fix released, and apparently back in 2017, so basically you should only install the linux-firmware package
[21:19] <oerheks> max3, see #14 This bug was fixed in the package linux-firmware - 1.157.15 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware
[21:19] <nacc> max3: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[21:19] <oerheks> so if you run trusty, sorry
[21:19] <max3> nacc: bionic
[21:19] <blackflow> !info linux-firmware
[21:19] <nacc> max3: it's already fixed that, wrt that specific bug
[21:19] <max3> nacc: rfkill list all doesn't list my nic
[21:20] <nacc> max3: do you see the specific firwmare load failures in dmesg ?
[21:20] <max3> sorry i'm not booted into bionic right now
[21:20] <max3> (i know that's silly)
[21:20] <nacc> max3: if you don't, then it's not that bug
[21:20] <max3> okay i'll be back in a little (gotta run home and get a wifi dongle)
[21:21] <oerheks> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net # shows what driver in use
[21:22] <michal_f_home> this solved no GUi after reboot: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029509/no-gui-after-kubuntu-18-04-lts-upgrade-from-17-10
[21:22] <michal_f_home> now I boot into unity
[21:22] <Bashing-om> michal_f_home: :) .
[21:23] <michal_f_home> thanks all for help ! appreciated
[21:23] <michal_f_home> btw. unity is a default for 18.04 ?
[21:23] <gr3nax> yo
[21:24] <nikki_s-00> no, gnome is!
[21:26] <nikki_s-00> i might switch to kubuntu which uses kde
[21:28] <dury> blackflow, not booting... gesss underline symbol only flashing
[21:28] <oerheks> you *can* get unity 7.5 ..
[21:28] <oerheks> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[21:29] <nikki_s-00> oerheks, personall.. no thanks to unity!
[21:29] <dury> blackflow, are you there?
[21:30] <dury> blackflow, busy
[21:31] <michal_f_home> so gnome it is. now all looks ok. back to work
[21:34] <blackflow> dury: yup, here. so what did you do exactly?
[21:37] <gr3nax> exit
[21:39] <dury> blackflow, what you said, but still the underline symbol flashing
[21:39] <blackflow> dury: which device was it, sdc? sdb?
[21:40] <dury> blackflow, sdc
[21:40] <blackflow> dury: also, are you booting via EFI or legacy? perhaps try one or the other
[21:42] <dury> blackflow, boot mode it's legacy support, then boot priority legacy first
[21:44] <dury> blackflow, that is lenovo yoga 300
[21:44] <blackflow> dury: just in case, can you verify the installation media works? Try to boot off of it on another computer (probably the one where you created the USB)
[21:45] <dury> all right
[21:47] <dury> blackflow, got a usb debian stretch on it and it boots though
[21:47] <blackflow> dury: Uhm I meant the ubuntu ISO you cp'd to the stick :)
[21:48] <blackflow> dury: oh, you're saying debian stretch ISO boots, but ubuntu doesn't, on that same yoga, from that same stick?
[21:49] <dury> blackflow, different stick
[21:50] <blackflow> dury: right, so please try, whichever stick, with the bionic ISO copied on it, on some other computer. if that works, but doesn't on the yoga, then it's some hardware issue or lack of hw support from ubuntu.
[21:50] <annihilator> should i install qemu from repo or source?
[21:50] <blackflow> annihilator: repol if you have to ask that question :)
[21:50] <blackflow> *repo
[21:50] <annihilator> not true
[21:51] <annihilator> i can do either but i dont know which is current
[21:51] <dury> blackflow, right ok
[21:51] <blackflow> annihilator: so then only you can answer that question.
[21:51] <annihilator> so to rephrase which one should i install from to get the latest version?
[21:52] <annihilator> im thinking source would give the latest but i wasnt sure if repo was on point with source
[21:52] <blackflow> !info qemu-kvm
[21:53] <blackflow> upstream latest is 2.12, so...
[21:53] <annihilator> ok thanks that answers that question
[21:53] <nacc> annihilator: why do you need the 'latest version'?
[21:53] <annihilator> cause i want something to do
[21:53] <annihilator> i like debuging software
[21:53] <nacc> annihilator: then you want #qemu.
[21:53] <sla3k> annihilator: then get it from https://github.com/qemu/qemu and compile
[21:53] <nacc> annihilator: and your question has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[21:54] <annihilator> partially does as i did not know what version was in repo
[21:54] <blackflow> annihilator: and consider using the srcdeb, bump version, drop patches, have a nice package of it.
[21:54] <nacc> annihilator: package.ubuntu.com, apt-cache, rmadison, etc.
[21:55] <nacc> *packages.ubuntu.com
[22:03] <skinux> I need a panel indicator for Gnome/Ubuntu that tells me RAM usage and RAM total.
[22:05] <kk4ewt> skinux,  it should be using it all
[22:05] <oerheks> i used to do that with conky
[22:05] <oerheks> but sure there are gnome extentions..
[22:06] <kk4ewt> https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[22:10] <garduino> Hi People
[22:28] <max3> nacc, ok back. what am i looking for in dmesg to figure out why my intel 9462 isn't working?
[22:28] <nacc> max3: first compare to the bug you found, if you see the same / similar messages
[22:29] <max3> nacc, can't quite see in the bug report what the output for dmesg should be
[22:30] <nacc> max3: look in the "bug description"
[22:30] <max3> ah
[22:30] <max3> it's the timestamped section
[22:30] <nacc> max3: yes
[22:31] <nacc> max3: so you can do `dmesg | grep iwlwifi`
[22:31] <max3> thank you
[22:31] <max3> nope nothing
[22:32] <oerheks> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net # shows cards and what driver in use
[22:32] <max3> oerheks, i've tried running this before and it just locks up
[22:32] <max3> can't ctrl c nor ctrl d
[22:32] <max3> neither ctrl z
[22:33] <nacc> max3: canyou just pastebin your dmesg?
[22:33] <nacc> also if lspci locks up your system, then your system seems buggy :)
[22:34] <max3> nacc, http://dpaste.com/1E07KZX. note that wlx9cefd5ff0763 is a wifi dongle
[22:36] <oerheks> if this intel 9462 is an onboard, check for bios updates
[22:36] <nacc> max3: lots of ACPI errors
[22:37] <max3> nacc, yes
[22:37] <max3> i had to turn off acpi in order to install
[22:37] <nacc> max3: uh
[22:37] <TJ-> max3: problem with built-in Wifi? that dmesg suggests it's a Broadcom device, using the "wl" driver.
[22:37] <max3> TJ-, that's a dongle
[22:37] <nacc> max3: right, but turning off ACPI also likely means devices don't work
[22:38] <max3> okay let me turn it on. brb
[22:38] <TJ-> max3: The dongle is Realtek isn't it? "[   20.342530] rt2800usb 1-1:1.0 wlx9cefd5ff0763: renamed from wlan0"
[22:38] <max3> TJ-, no
[22:38] <max3> err
[22:38] <max3> yes
[22:38] <max3> whoops
[22:38] <max3> that's correct
[22:38] <max3> brb turning on acpi
[22:39] <oerheks> Dell g3, 8th gen intel  ?
[22:44] <max3> nacc, looked through the bios and couldn't even find acpi. checked grub bootstring and acpi isn't off
[22:45] <nacc> max3: ok, i never said it was off, you did :)
[22:45] <nacc> max3: all i said was there are acpi errors, which usually implies bios issues
[22:45] <oerheks> acpi off could explain this, fastboot is off i read, so that is oke too
[22:45] <oerheks> but lspci hanging .. this is odd
[22:46] <TJ-> max3: ACPI should never be disabled these days, in fact, it often needs to be lied to, telling it Windows OS is running, to enable all functionality
[22:46] <oerheks> try this without cable?
[22:46] <max3> oerheks, without cable?
[22:46] <oerheks> Dell g3, 8th gen intel  ..?
[22:46] <nacc> max3: is the iwlwifi module loaded ? (lsmod | grep iwlwifi)
[22:46] <nacc> max3: if not, try `sudo modprobe iwlwifi` ?
[22:47] <max3> not loaded
[22:47] <nacc> does `lspci` without argumetns also hang? if not, can you pastebin it?
[22:47] <max3> hangs
[22:49] <max3> something about nouveau ?
[22:49] <nacc> i can't think of a reason that would happen except buggy hardware or firmware
[22:49] <max3> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=183185
[22:56] <max3> nacc, okay using nvidia driver unhangs lspci
[22:57] <max3> http://dpaste.com/31MQBA6
[22:59] <nacc> max3: afaict, that's a 9560, not a 9462
[22:59] <nacc> max3: the 'a370' device
[22:59] <max3> nacc, packing slip for laptop says 9462
[22:59] <nacc> max3: the hardware says otherwise
[22:59] <max3> nacc, i trust you
[22:59] <max3> what should i do
[23:00] <nacc> max3: in any case, did you try loading the module?
[23:00] <max3> i did
[23:00] <nacc> anything in dmesg when you did?
[23:01] <max3> it's funny. i can see two network manager icons in the toolbar
[23:01] <max3> sorry dmesg shows nothing that i recognize as significant
[23:01] <TJ-> nacc: 8086:A370 can be a 9462
[23:01] <max3> here it is http://dpaste.com/1T2ANGY
[23:02] <nacc> TJ-: hrm ok
[23:02] <nacc> max3: maybe TJ- has a better idea of how to debug it
[23:03] <TJ-> nacc: I'm going to suggest acpi_osi !
[23:03] <max3> what am i doing with this? it's a boot parameter?
[23:03] <TJ-> max3: there's a workaround that may well help, by having Linux pretend to be the latest Windows version that your PC claims to support.
[23:04] <TJ-> max3: here's an article I wrote on how to do it:  http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[23:57] <t3kg33k> Hello all
[23:57] <t3kg33k> Can anyone recommend a good wifi monitoring tool to check performance of my WLAN?