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 @doko, My first reaction is "no" but I'd like to wait from an opinion from acheronuk. Regardless, since you've been around much longer than I have in Ubuntu, how have the MIR policies changed since the bug was filed?
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 It's dumb stupid how to make a textfield in qml.
 it's soooo bad.
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[08:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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[14:32] <santa_> good afternoon everyone
[14:32] <santa_> mamarley: I don't know, I was talking about a python-defaults brokenness which right now is already fixed
[14:33] <santa_> acheronuk: do you have some time for that chat now?
[14:37] <mamarley> Yeah, that was it.  I noticed it yesterday because it failed my automatic Quassel daily build on Cosmic.
[14:38] <santa_> aha, I was doing some builds and everything got broken, so I had to catch up this morning with the stuff I was investigating
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[15:11] <acheronuk> santa_: still here?
[15:12] <santa_> acheronuk: yep
[15:12] <acheronuk> lets do it then
[15:12] <santa_> allright, thanks for bringing that dhmk -> dh thing to my attention
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[15:13] <santa_> if I were working for debian, probably, I wouldn't have done that, but that kind of discussion is kind of futile
[15:14] <santa_> now, seeing the thing with my kubuntu devel eyes, I think we should try to follow what debian is doing in the mid/long term
[15:14] <santa_> so this is what we have with the dhmk -> dh move:
[15:14] <acheronuk> it would reduce the work we have to do
[15:15] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_frameworks.html
[15:15] <santa_> click on hide/show of attica please
[15:15] <santa_> show/hide actually XD
[15:16] <acheronuk> yeah
[15:17] <santa_> that's a kubuntu specific side effect of the move
[15:17] <acheronuk> we lose dhmk lintian markers
[15:17] <santa_> and list-missing
[15:17] <acheronuk> yup
[15:17] <santa_> to sum up what we have here, I think the correct move for these days is:
[15:18] <santa_> 1. merge all frameworks from debian
[15:18] <santa_> 2. revert temporarily the dhmk move and stay in debhelper compat 9
[15:19] <santa_> and later, once we get ready to do it, move
[15:19] <acheronuk> why compat 9
[15:19] <santa_> in case 11 causes any malfunctioning in dhmk which is unmaintained
[15:20] <acheronuk> right
[15:21] <santa_> imho the best is moving both things i.e (compat 9 -> 11; + dhmk -> dh) or none of both
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[15:21] <santa_> and get ready before doing both of course
[15:22] <acheronuk> ok
[15:22] <santa_> so, now that we are on the same page about the problem, and the solution for the very shor term, let's dig into possible mid/long term solutions
[15:23] <santa_> to recover list-missing, I have a patch for pkg-kde-tools which would execute "dh_missing --list-missing"
[15:24] <santa_> this won't provide the markers, but it works with the ppa/tritemio status pages, not sure if it would work for the ruby powered CI
[15:26] <santa_> regarding lintian, let me say that the way we are doing it is very hackish, and it wouldn't be a bad thing to get rid of that way of doing it
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[15:26] <acheronuk> have to see what it does exactly. IIRC the CI code has routine for slitting build log sections based on the markers
[15:26] <acheronuk> *splitting
[15:26] <santa_> so one thing we can do is not execute lintian in the package building at all, but only on tritemio
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[15:28] <santa_> if you click on that attica build log you will find a part like this https://paste.kde.org/pandznguj/pi14qm
[15:29] <santa_> so we could change the status pages of tritemio to catch that kind of output
[15:29] <santa_> and we could do the new ci taking that into account
[15:29] <santa_> the problem is:
[15:30] <santa_> 1) I haven't finished the tritemio setup guide yet
[15:30] <santa_> 2) we don't have the new CI yet
[15:31] <santa_> hence why I'm suggesting to hold the dhmk -> dh move, so we can buy some time to get our stuff in better shape and ready to deal with this change
[15:31] <santa_> acheronuk: questions/suggestions/insults? :D 
[15:33] <acheronuk> I don't like the idea of losing lintian in our main build logs :(
[15:33] <acheronuk> and a new CI is well..... I could be hopeful, but I suspect a fair way off
[15:35] <santa_> I have been pondering about the lintian thing and it doesn't seem easy to make it behave the way it was without changing _all_ our debian/rules, but suggestions to solve that are welcomed
[15:35] <acheronuk> but then part of it is what I am used to. workflows and tools change. 
[15:35] <acheronuk> we can ponder for a bit
[15:37] <santa_> sure, that's another reason to hold the dhmk drop, this way we would have time to figure out a proper strategy
[15:37] <santa_> so are you ok with merging everithing from debian except compat and dhmk drop?
[15:37] <acheronuk> yeah. that sounds sane for now
[15:39] <santa_> excellent, I'm going to write a summary of this in the wiki
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[15:40] <acheronuk> some leaf packages (i.e. no plasma, fw, apps etc), already lost dhmk in merges. I don't think anything important enough to be very concerned on, but I'll probably re-check those
[15:40] <santa_> oh, btw
[15:40] <santa_> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2017-December/002555.html
[15:40] <santa_> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2018-January/002564.html
[15:41] <santa_> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2018-January/002565.html
[15:41] <acheronuk> nice one. I recalled seeming a conversation, but had not found it yet!
[15:41] <santa_> the usual debianesque coordination and disciplined work XD
[15:43] <acheronuk> have a 1st discussion about changes when already mostly implemented!
[15:51] <doko> tsimonq2, acheronuk: these fonts would be ready to promote, if they would have a dependency in main, or would be seeded. that's what I'm asking about
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 @doko, I'm not sure.
[16:11] <doko> tsimonq2: if you're not sure, then I'm closing this one as won't fix
 Thanks.
[16:16] <acheronuk> doko: kiten seems to provide it's own version of that font anyway
[16:16] <acheronuk> or no-one has cared for 6 years!
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[18:19] <santa_> acheronuk: I'm trying to do a test rebuild of everything, why kamoso isn't at 18.04.1 in kubuntu_cosmic_staging?
[18:21] <acheronuk> santa_: this says it is? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kamoso/commit/?h=kubuntu_cosmic_staging&id=eb1d580325e46d0ef811e1a5088ea44fe503724c
[18:21] <santa_> so my clone wasn't updated? wtf let me recheck
[18:24] <santa_> ok now, it was in _archive for some reason, thanks
[18:27]  * acheronuk tries to remember why kamoso needed merging from debian a month ago :/
[18:28] <acheronuk> there *was* a reason....
[18:29] <santa_> acheronuk: what about kbackup? this one is at .0 and this one doesn't seem to be my fault...
[18:30]  * acheronuk looks
[18:31] <acheronuk> santa_: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kbackup/commit/?h=kubuntu_cosmic_staging&id=230deee73e815675ecd5cea3b8c1169f6d32bdc7
[18:32] <santa_> sigh, mistyped the checkout, ok now, last one: kopete: is that no longer released?
[18:32] <acheronuk> kopete was dropped from previous apps, but should be back in 18.04.x
[18:33] <santa_> ah, nevermind I got it right as well
[18:33] <acheronuk> ok :)
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[20:36] <valorie> !info isoimagewriter
[20:37] <valorie> hmmm
[20:37] <valorie> that's a KDE package, I just read .... any idea why we don't provide that as an alternative?
[20:41] <acheronuk> valorie: never had a stable release yet
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[20:46] <santa_> acheronuk: so ... this is what I'm planing to do tomorrow: complete this https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/pyramid/ with the stuff we discussed today, open a todo card in the board for merges and start to merge from debian keeping debhelper compat at 9 and dhmk in our 'd/rules', any objections?
[20:48] <acheronuk> ok with me
[20:51] <santa_> allright, I'm also doing a test rebuild here: to start testing the possible solution for list-missing we discussed http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ the objective of that test is checking that, first of all, it does no harm to our curent packaging, if so it would be safe to upload that fix in advance
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[20:56] <valorie> acheronuk: wow
[20:56] <acheronuk> ?
[21:07] <valorie> that it hasn't had a release
[21:07] <valorie> I suppose it was one of those things in Playground
[21:07] <valorie> worked well enough for the person who developed it, so they just let it sit
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[21:34] <acheronuk> valorie: see the git log for the name of that person https://cgit.kde.org/isoimagewriter.git/log/
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[21:38] <valorie> aha
[21:38] <valorie> so that's his fork of Rosa I think
[21:40] <acheronuk> yep
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[23:03] <genii> Adora Cantwell Telegram bot
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 ?
[23:13] <genii> @ahoneybun in -offtopic "<IrcsomeBot> Adora Cantwell was added by: Adora Cantwell  ... <IrcsomeBot> <Adora Cantwell> http://tinyurl.com/ybelbae2 " ... which is some music robot advertising thing
[23:13] <genii> 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it now in the last few days
 I don't think it's in this channel though.
[23:14] <wxl> it's not, but i think he's looking for an appropriate place to mention it
[23:15] <wxl> i'm not sure who's the "op" of the telegram bot and i'm sure genii isn't either :)
 He's in offtopic
[23:15] <wxl> the problem is in offtopic
[23:15] <wxl> but the solution needs to be implemented by someone with access to the bot or rather the telegram channel
[23:16] <genii> I thought IrcsomeBot was managed by one of the devs
[23:16] <wxl> i suspect as much myself
[23:16] <ahoneybun> I can remove the bot if it's confirmed it is a bot/person with spam
[23:16] <wxl> how would you like to confirm it?
[23:16] <ahoneybun> I thought it was ovidiu who set it up. Not sure.
[23:17] <ahoneybun> I removed one think that they said.
[23:17] <ahoneybun> *thing
[23:19] <ahoneybun> wxl genii I trust you folks if you think it is a bot and spamming the channel, just let me know and I'll remove it.
[23:20] <wxl> i would concur with genii's notion, so if you can make sure Adora Cantwell's gone, that would be great
[23:20] <ahoneybun> Done.
[23:20] <wxl> thanks!
[23:21] <genii> Just the one ad link, but before it was same thing, user adds self, spews a link which goes to the same place this one does, and same with time before that
[23:21] <ahoneybun> Yeah it's on IRC record with the telegram bot link but I removed it from telegram.
[23:21] <ahoneybun> Your welcome wxl glad to help.
[23:21] <genii> Thanks ahoneybun
[23:22] <ahoneybun> I know I have nothing else to do with this delayed flight xD
[23:22]  * genii wanders off for hockey-watchings now
[23:22] <ahoneybun> genii your welcome!
[23:22] <ahoneybun> wx
[23:22] <ahoneybun> Damn trying to use autocomplete on this IRC client.
[23:24] <ahoneybun> Ah got it.
[23:24] <ahoneybun> valorie: heyo
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