[15:11] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Sorry, my chat windows were closed yesterday.
[15:11] <ErichEickmeyer> Yes, meeting. Today. Working on agenda. Very tired, had a long week.
[16:21] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ruh roh. Getting "fail to build" for the -controls daily.
[16:21] <OvenWerks> yes... I am sure it is my mistake :P
[16:23] <ErichEickmeyer> No worries. I was just shocked to get the email!
[16:24] <OvenWerks> for some reason my git upload ended up belonging to core rather than devel
[16:25] <ErichEickmeyer> Strange.
[16:25] <ErichEickmeyer> I just did a whole bunch of restructuring at https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio to get it up-to-date (was running a good 4 years behind), so I'm not sure if that affected it or not.
[16:45] <OvenWerks> trying again
[16:47] <ErichEickmeyer> Looks like it wants your launchpad ID in bzr.
[16:47] <OvenWerks> this is git?
[16:47] <OvenWerks> anyway I have to go...
[16:51] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: This is what I'm seeing: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x52pG2zB7t/
[16:51] <ErichEickmeyer> See ya later.
[17:35] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: per krytarik: s/bzr-builder/git-build-recipe/
[17:41] <OvenWerks> thats what it said...
[17:43] <OvenWerks> I can no longer find the recipe I created... but it is there somewhere so I can't create a new one
[17:45] <krytarik> OvenWerks: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+recipe/ubuntustudio-controls-daily - and you know, you could have just edited it instead.
[17:46] <OvenWerks> so it changed it on me... 
[17:51] <OvenWerks> ErichEickmeyer: edit does not chnge it.
[17:52] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: I'm clueless on this one. That was krytarik's suggestion.
[17:53] <OvenWerks> ErichEickmeyer: I edit the recipe to make it git, I update the recipe, then I go back to edit and it is as if I had never changed it.... no error message or anything
[17:54] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah, that's weird.
[17:54] <krytarik> And you know, setting the last used Bazaar branch to both "old" and 'abandoned' is rather fun when there are still all these: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls
[17:55] <OvenWerks> So how do I get rid of it?
[17:56] <OvenWerks> if everything is to be switched to git... where is a detailed path to do so?
[17:56] <OvenWerks> Launchpad still for the most part, thinks in BZR
[17:57]  * OvenWerks finds this very frustrating
[17:59] <OvenWerks> I am thinking to just change everything back... pull a bzr branch, drop all files from my git brinch into it... and push
[17:59] <ErichEickmeyer> I'm not sure if the path to switching to git has been solidified yet. tsimonq2 would have more details on that.
[17:59] <ErichEickmeyer> But yes, I get the frustration. :/
[18:00] <krytarik> https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls/+configure-code - either of you should be able to switch the default VCS of the project to Git here.
[18:01] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Should we do it?
[18:01] <OvenWerks> I am on that page as happens :)
[18:01] <ErichEickmeyer> haha
[18:02] <OvenWerks> there is no help here what is the Banch Name to use? Truck? master?
[18:03] <ErichEickmeyer> I'd use trunk or master for now.
[18:07] <ErichEickmeyer> The main project page was a mess, so I hope I didn't bork anything with the cleanup.
[18:15] <OvenWerks> it is just getting messier with me doing this :(
[18:18] <OvenWerks> well I don't know what I did... but my recipe saved right this time.
[18:22] <OvenWerks> ga!, got my versioning wrong.
[18:22] <OvenWerks> builds ok at least
[18:24] <OvenWerks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/autobuild
[18:24] <OvenWerks> There it is.
[18:27] <OvenWerks> There is the latest snapshot of -controls and it appears I have successfully switched it to git.
[18:28] <OvenWerks> known issues: any config change does a restart. Some config changes will always do a restart anway, but some don't need to
[18:29] <ErichEickmeyer> Yay!
[18:29] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: The changes doing restart: is that a jackdbus thing?
[18:30] <OvenWerks> no, just unfinished work :)
[18:30] <OvenWerks> However any jack config change will always restart
[18:31] <ErichEickmeyer> That makes sense. Would suck for someone that didn't know that when all the sudden Ardour gripes.
[18:31] <OvenWerks> but things like pulse bridging and what ports it connects to. extra device bridging and a2j midi bridging will be able to be changed on the fly... soon.
[18:32] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Sweet. Pulse bridging and what ports it connects to can usually be done with any patchbay, unless I'm misunderstanding you.
[18:32] <WMRamadan> Hey guys so when is the meeting?
[18:32] <OvenWerks> pulse bridging itself can't, but where they hook could be yes.
[18:32] <OvenWerks> 28 minutes
[18:33] <WMRamadan> great
[18:34] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: Welcome! We need all the packaging and testing we can get! Do you have a launchpad account?
[18:34] <OvenWerks> ErichEickmeyer: the user can choose which device pulse applications should use for output and which ports. input ports will default 1+2 on the same device or on system if that device has no inputs.
[18:34] <WMRamadan> ErichEickmeyer: Yes I have setup launchpad account and joined the mailing list, checking out the meeting agenda now!
[18:36] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Cool. That makes it a one-stop shop for audio config, rather than setting the default for the pulse bridge prior to starting jack, which is what I do.
[18:36] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: What's your launchpad account?
[18:38] <WMRamadan> ErichEickmeyer: https://launchpad.net/~wmramadan
[18:40] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: Sweet.
[18:41] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: For packaging, should I add him to the Developers or Contributors group (or both)?
[18:41] <OvenWerks> development for sure
[18:41] <OvenWerks> I don't remember what contributors is for to be honest.
[18:42] <ErichEickmeyer> haha, ok
[18:42] <ErichEickmeyer> Done. Welcome aboard, WMRamadan!
[18:44] <OvenWerks> ErichEickmeyer: contrib does have one code branch.
[18:44] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah, the multiple DE Metas, an abandoned project that we're inadvertently reviving with -plasma. XD
[18:45] <OvenWerks> except it seems to want to load evrything onto the iso :P
[18:47] <ErichEickmeyer> Eeek.  Maybe worth keeping abandoned.
[18:48] <OvenWerks> it is often easier to start fresh rather than try to figure out someone elses start.
[18:49] <ErichEickmeyer> Yep.
[18:49] <OvenWerks> A lot of the thing desktop-gnome pulls in would have been pulled in by desktop anyway.
[18:49] <WMRamadan> ErichEickmeyer: Thanks
[18:50] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah. It's clearly outdated.
[18:50] <OvenWerks> xfce and gnome share a lot of things too... more than xfce and plasma I think.
[18:51] <ErichEickmeyer> Well, GTK for one...
[18:51] <OvenWerks> we will need three metas, desktop-core, desktop-xfce and desktop-plasma (and maybe a desktop-default)
[18:52] <OvenWerks> gtk gets pulled in anyway
[18:52] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah.
[18:52] <OvenWerks> lots of applications require it.
[18:52] <ErichEickmeyer> I think if we reverse-engineer kubuntu-desktop we might get some clues.
[18:53] <OvenWerks> yup
[18:55] <WMRamadan> Anyone her work for Canonical?
[18:55] <ErichEickmeyer> Nobody on the Ubuntu Studio team works for Canonical.
[18:56] <ErichEickmeyer> We're 100% volunteer.
[18:56] <ErichEickmeyer> That said, we have connections.
[18:56] <WMRamadan> Yea, I understand that I was just wondering if anyone happens to be from Canonical
[18:57] <ErichEickmeyer> Wimpress is, but you won't see him talk in here very often. He mostly lurks.
[19:01] <ErichEickmeyer> #startmeeting
[19:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Jun  9 19:01:28 2018 UTC.  The chair is ErichEickmeyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:01] <ErichEickmeyer> #chair ErichEickmeyer eylul krytarik OvenWerks
[19:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: ErichEickmeyer OvenWerks eylul krytarik
[19:01] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay, anyone here?
[19:02] <WMRamadan> Yup
[19:02] <ErichEickmeyer> Sweet. We could wait for everyone else to show up.
[19:03] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic ubuntustudio-controls
[19:03] <ErichEickmeyer> Hey OvenWerks, how's the progress?
[19:04] <OvenWerks> I think it is about usable now.
[19:04] <ErichEickmeyer> Sweet. I'm assuming the latest build was successful?
[19:05] <OvenWerks> there is a build in: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/autobuild
[19:05] <OvenWerks> it can be tested in 18.04 and .10
[19:05] <ErichEickmeyer> Cool. I'll download and install it sometime later today to help in the testing.
[19:06] <ErichEickmeyer> Next step would be to get it in the cosmic repo.
[19:06] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:07] <ErichEickmeyer> That might have to be a ross or tsimonq2 thing.
[19:07] <OvenWerks> I think so.
[19:07] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay.
[19:07] <OvenWerks> -controls is a little less disruptive than cadence
[19:07] <OvenWerks> also cadence and -controls do not work together
[19:08] <ErichEickmeyer> cadence and qjackctl don't work together either. :P
[19:08] <OvenWerks> cadence is quite intrusive
[19:08] <ErichEickmeyer> #done initial builds of new ubuntustudio-controls available for testing.
[19:08] <OvenWerks> we should probably add a breaks cadence or something
[19:09] <ErichEickmeyer> #info ubuntustudio-controls breaks cadence
[19:09] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Would we add that to the package?
[19:09] <OvenWerks> I think so
[19:09] <ErichEickmeyer> Cool.
[19:09] <OvenWerks> The only problem is that there is no cadence package
[19:10] <OvenWerks> so knowing the exact name is hard :(
[19:10] <ErichEickmeyer> Well, then it'll have to be part of the release notes.
[19:11] <ErichEickmeyer> Usually it's cadence, at least in the kxstudio ppa it is.
[19:11] <OvenWerks> I'll add that
[19:11] <ErichEickmeyer> Cool.
[19:12] <ErichEickmeyer> #agreed "add cadence to package breaks for ubuntustudio-controls"
[19:12] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay. On to the next topic
[19:13] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic ubuntustudio-welcome and -boutique
[19:14] <ErichEickmeyer> No real progress to report. It's been a busy week. Though, if anybody wants to contribute in the rebranding process, it's at https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/ubuntustudio/+git/ubuntustudio-welcome and https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/ubuntustudio/+git/ubuntustudio-boutique.
[19:14] <ErichEickmeyer> #link https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/ubuntustudio/+git/ubuntustudio-welcome
[19:14] <ErichEickmeyer> #link https://code.launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/ubuntustudio/+git/ubuntustudio-boutique
[19:15] <ErichEickmeyer> Any questions or comments?
[19:16] <OvenWerks> was going to ask if we need welcome too... but think it is probably good to have.
[19:16] <ErichEickmeyer> Well, from looking at the code, they kinda depend on each other.
[19:16] <OvenWerks> if we can pack then as a deb would be nice too.
[19:17] <ErichEickmeyer> iirc they're available as deb.
[19:17] <ErichEickmeyer> At least, the budgie and mate versions are.
[19:17] <OvenWerks> cool
[19:17] <ErichEickmeyer> The mate version is only installed as a snap by default.
[19:18] <ErichEickmeyer> That's all I've got. Still working on the rebranding. This past week was crazy for me.
[19:18] <ErichEickmeyer> On to next topic
[19:19] <OvenWerks> k
[19:19] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic Documentation
[19:19] <ErichEickmeyer> #subtopic Cleanup
[19:19] <ErichEickmeyer> The documentation is a mess, and I added myself to try to see what I could do about changing some outdated documentation. Haven't seen SlidingHorn around for a while, but I was hoping he'd lead the charge on this.
[19:20] <ErichEickmeyer> There's also a "setup" section that has a lot of things that -controls does for you without having to touch the command line (add user to audio, rt memory unlock, etc.).
[19:21] <ErichEickmeyer> So, that needs to be modified to talk more about -controls than any manual changes to config files.
[19:21] <OvenWerks> ya, thats old
[19:22] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah. I'll be going through that as I have time and clean it up and make some revisions. Already changed the references to the current versions which were about 2 years outdated.
[19:24] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay, next topic.
[19:24] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic Wallpapers
[19:24] <ErichEickmeyer> I don't know why I put this on the agenda since I have nothing. Though, we did run into a bit of a tabled topic last time. Is eylul available?
[19:26] <OvenWerks> I think we are still stuck
[19:26] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay. We'll keep it tabled. :/
[19:26] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic New Website Theme
[19:27] <ErichEickmeyer> Not seeing Ross or eylul, so we'll have to move on. We need to get that theme uploaded.
[19:27] <OvenWerks> right
[19:27] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic Musician's Handbook
[19:27] <ErichEickmeyer> First of all, big welcome and thank you to preppert who is not here right now for that amazing handbook. I had the privilege of reading it.
[19:28] <WMRamadan> Where is this Musician’s Handbook?
[19:28] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: It's still work-in-progress, but he linked it on the mailing list and you can find the thread in the archives.
[19:29] <ErichEickmeyer> I plan on making a spot on the User Wiki for it to live as a living document, and that can be used to make official releases likely following every release as proposed by eylul.
[19:30] <ErichEickmeyer> Should be mostly a copy-paste operation.
[19:30] <ErichEickmeyer> My question is if preppert was planning on publishing it as a physical or ebook?
[19:31] <ErichEickmeyer> Because that would be amazing.
[19:31] <ErichEickmeyer> Anything to add? Anyone?
[19:32]  * OvenWerks can't find the mail list archive...
[19:32] <WMRamadan> yea I can’t find it either
[19:33] <ErichEickmeyer> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/
[19:33] <ErichEickmeyer> Specifically https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2018-June/subject.html
[19:34] <WMRamadan> Much better it was hard searching the archive
[19:34] <ErichEickmeyer> Cool.
[19:35] <ErichEickmeyer> Well, I guess we'll get the answer. Anyhow, let's move on.
[19:35] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic ubuntustudio-icon-theme: change disto icon
[19:36] <ErichEickmeyer> So, the thing I was thinking is that the distributor-loco icon is a bit dated, and not uniform with the blue circle enclosing the logo on the other flavors, so I thought it would be a good idea to fix that. I'm all for doing it myself using the svgs avalable.
[19:36]  * OvenWerks is obtuse and wonders what is wrong with the old one or what is the new thing
[19:37] <OvenWerks> Ya sure, go ahead.
[19:38] <ErichEickmeyer> Cool.
[19:39] <ErichEickmeyer> Can't find it right now, but I'll link it if I can.
[19:40] <ErichEickmeyer> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=White-on-Blue_circle.svg
[19:40] <ErichEickmeyer> That.
[19:40] <OvenWerks> There do seem to be more than one, the one on our launchpad page is different than on my menu
[19:40] <OvenWerks> That is the one in Launchpad
[19:40] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah. Seems that both are official, but the circled one seems to be more uniform with the rest of the flavors.
[19:40] <OvenWerks> The one on my menu is negative to that
[19:41] <ErichEickmeyer> You mean this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Blue-on-White_circle.svg
[19:41] <OvenWerks> It is trying to look like and open reel tape reel
[19:41] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:42] <ErichEickmeyer> We can still have that for wallpapers, but I was thinking about uniformity with the rest of the flavors.
[19:42] <OvenWerks> for example?
[19:42] <OvenWerks> square?
[19:43] <OvenWerks> (ish)
[19:44] <ErichEickmeyer> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ubuntu-official-flavors.jpg
[19:44] <ErichEickmeyer> Just an example.
[19:44] <OvenWerks> ok
[19:44] <ErichEickmeyer> That's a bunch of flavors and the official "circle of friends". I guess ours is the "circle of reel?" XD
[19:45] <OvenWerks> reely reely
[19:45] <ErichEickmeyer> haha
[19:45] <ErichEickmeyer> Anyhow, so I guess I'll go ahead and play around with it. Might be a good first package for me to modify.
[19:46] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay, on to the next topic...
[19:46] <OvenWerks> ok, the reel thing just happens to be round like most buntu things but otherwise does not even start to cover all Studio does.
[19:47] <ErichEickmeyer> Agreed. Though, I don't think completely revising the logo is a good thing to do right now.
[19:47] <OvenWerks> no
[19:47] <ErichEickmeyer> I'm just talking about the one icon package.
[19:47] <ErichEickmeyer> Anyhow...
[19:48] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic hangar18 stepping down
[19:48] <OvenWerks> go ahead with next
[19:48] <ErichEickmeyer> Charlie wanted to contribute, but realized it wasn't a good time for him citing family issues. I just wanted to let everyone know in case weird rumors fly around.
[19:49] <ErichEickmeyer> The timing with the Github post on the ML was what prompted me to try to kill the rumors.
[19:49] <OvenWerks> no problem, people are here as they can be.
[19:49] <ErichEickmeyer> And next topic...
[19:50] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic Changing meetings from weekly to semi-weekly
[19:50] <ErichEickmeyer> I think it'd be healthy at this point in the development process to meet every other week.
[19:50] <OvenWerks> concidering how many people are here today and the amount of changes since last time...
[19:51] <ErichEickmeyer> Yeah. I think, especially considering the time of year, we should do that. People want to spend time with their families, and I'm no exception.
[19:52] <ErichEickmeyer> Perhaps as the release gets closer we can up the frequency, but for now, and to keep from stretching too thin, I think semi-weekly is good.
[19:52] <ErichEickmeyer> Thoughts?
[19:52] <OvenWerks> ok, I'll second if needed
[19:52] <ErichEickmeyer> Sweet.
[19:53] <ErichEickmeyer> #vote Change Meetings from Weekly to Semi-Weekly
[19:53] <meetingology> Please vote on: Change Meetings from Weekly to Semi-Weekly
[19:53] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:53] <ErichEickmeyer> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from ErichEickmeyer
[19:53] <OvenWerks> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from OvenWerks
[19:53] <krytarik> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from krytarik
[19:53] <WMRamadan> Can I vote?
[19:53] <ErichEickmeyer> Sure!
[19:53] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:54] <WMRamadan> +1
[19:54] <meetingology> +1 received from WMRamadan
[19:54] <OvenWerks> I think that is everyone actually here
[19:54] <ErichEickmeyer> #endvote
[19:54] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Change Meetings from Weekly to Semi-Weekly
[19:54] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:54] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:54] <ErichEickmeyer> Unanimous.
[19:55] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay. That's all I've got for this week. I'd like to officially welcome WMRamadan to our packaging & development team!
[19:55] <ErichEickmeyer> Anything else to discuss?
[19:55] <WMRamadan> Thanks, looking forward to making some contributions.
[19:56] <ErichEickmeyer> #topic packaging
[19:56] <ErichEickmeyer> We would really like to get Carla packaged if you're up for the challenge, WMRamadan.
[19:57] <ErichEickmeyer> Also, we will definitely need packaging help with -welcome, -boutique, and -plasma.
[19:58] <WMRamadan> Ok, how do I get started?
[19:58] <WMRamadan> Also, we are talking about Carla the autonomous driving simulator?
[19:59] <ErichEickmeyer> No, talking about Carla the plugin host.
[19:59] <ErichEickmeyer> audio plugin host, that is.
[19:59] <WMRamadan> Haha, ok sorry
[19:59] <ErichEickmeyer> #link https://github.com/falkTX/Carla
[19:59] <OvenWerks> http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Applications:Carla
[20:00] <WMRamadan> Yea, got it
[20:00] <WMRamadan> So how do I get started with this?
[20:00] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: Any .deb packaging experience?
[20:00] <OvenWerks> The big thing to remember when packaging is that not everything needs to be included.
[20:00] <WMRamadan> So all that is needed is to create a .deb package?
[20:01] <OvenWerks> For example linux sampler can't be
[20:01] <OvenWerks> the build pocess is a little different that the normal ./configure
[20:02] <OvenWerks> make does not fail if things are missing it just buuilds without that funtionallity
[20:02] <WMRamadan> Once I get this to work is this submitted on launchpad?
[20:03] <ErichEickmeyer> I believe so, but OvenWerks, Ross, and tsimonq2 have more insight on that.
[20:04] <OvenWerks> Launchpad can be used to store it, but ultimately it needs to be included in debian.
[20:04]  * ErichEickmeyer is still learning packaging and launchpad himself.
[20:04] <ErichEickmeyer> OvenWerks: Unless it's in the universe or multiverse repos.
[20:04] <OvenWerks> I have just learned that I am not very good at it.
[20:05] <ErichEickmeyer> Okay. OvenWerks, you okay getting him started?
[20:06]  * ErichEickmeyer wishes Ross were here
[20:06] <OvenWerks> I have yet to package anything :)
[20:07] <ErichEickmeyer> WMRamadan: you okay to lurk here? tsimonq2 is a good resource for packaging.
[20:07] <WMRamadan> ok no problem
[20:07] <WMRamadan> would it go something like this….
[20:07] <WMRamadan> 1 - Build binaries for Ubuntu Studio 18.04
[20:07] <ErichEickmeyer> He's just not available. Something, something, Southeast Linux Fest.
[20:08] <WMRamadan> 2 - Creat .deb package
[20:08] <WMRamadan> 3 - Submitte to launchpad for review
[20:08] <WMRamadan> ?
[20:09] <ErichEickmeyer> Kindof. More like build, create .deb with source, upload to personal PPA, test .deb, then ???.
[20:09] <OvenWerks> getting a package to a private ppa is first I think. I don't know who reviews things for inclusion
[20:09] <ErichEickmeyer> We lost most of our packagers over the past couple years.
[20:10] <WMRamadan> Who maintains what goes in the repo?
[20:10] <ErichEickmeyer> That would be the ubuntu release team.
[20:10] <WMRamadan> Do we meet with the release team?
[20:11] <ErichEickmeyer> No, but we can tell them we have a package we'd like to include. They have a mailing list and an IRC channel. #ubuntu-release
[20:12] <ErichEickmeyer> That's usually where I come in as release manager.
[20:12] <WMRamadan> How can I join that mailing list?
[20:12] <ErichEickmeyer> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
[20:13] <ErichEickmeyer> We should probably end this meeting and finish up outside of the meeting.
[20:13] <OvenWerks> ok
[20:13] <ErichEickmeyer> Can I get a second?
[20:13] <OvenWerks> seconded
[20:13] <ErichEickmeyer> Alright.
[20:13] <ErichEickmeyer> #endmeeting
[20:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Jun  9 20:13:27 2018 UTC.  
[20:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntustudio-devel/2018/ubuntustudio-devel.2018-06-09-19.01.moin.txt
[20:14] <ErichEickmeyer> I'll get the notes out when I can, but I have to go for now.
[20:14] <OvenWerks> have a great day
[20:15] <ErichEickmeyer> You too!