[01:31] Happy to see this finally fixed, lp 1774838 [01:31] Launchpad bug 1774838 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad issue watching bugs from the Linux Kernel Bug Tracker" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1774838 [01:49] ...I did the panel package but forgotted to puuuush. [01:54] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+sourcepub/9166620/+listing-archive-extra [02:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - i386 - i386 built. [02:07] Backported dh-autoreconf to 'experimental' for bionic too. :P [02:15] now xfce4-panel is PPA'd. [02:30] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. [03:08] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. [06:21] Unit193: updgrading - see new panel, seems a bunch of plugins are going to be removed - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6sxpxb4rGk/ [06:21] not done it yet though - slipping out for a while [06:26] xfce4-panel (>= 4.11), xfce4-panel (<< 4.13) [06:26] Urgh.. [08:02] flocculant: Looking into it now. [08:03] ...Well this is fun, so there's a few: grep-dctrl -n -FDepends -sPackage "xfce4-panel (<< 4.13)" /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_bionic*amd64_Packages [08:03] Uploading all for a rebuild... [08:04] So to sum up: xfce4-panel will cause a transition, thunar will cause a smaller transition, and xfconf will cause a transition. [08:04] I think one of you guys must really hate me or something. >_> [09:32] flocculant: Upgrades should all go smoothly, and you should be able to get rid of the old libxfconf library, well except for ristretto. [18:18] Just installed Xubuntu Core 18.10 first alpha (complete with warning), it installed and runs perfectly! [18:19] Sent my test report to the QA [18:20] :) [20:25] hi, question about "Xubuntu QA Experimental" PPA, today set of updates packages is only for 18.10 and with use this PPA on 18.04 and do full-upgrade is missed many packages and apt try remove many xfce packages... will be this "fixed"? or 18.04 is from now not supported in this PPA? thx [20:27] I haven't pushed a rebuild for the panel plugins to Bionic, and some depend on xfce4-panel (<< 4.13) [20:37] thanks :-) and is please posible do it? or is any technical problem? [20:42] I wasn't planning on it, since testing should likely be done more on Cosmic, but should be doable. [20:44] k3dAR: Starting the upload now... [20:45] Also, since this is development builds, they have a chance to break. We're also evaluating whether we want to ship everything in Cosmic, so if you run into any problems we'd love to hear them. [20:49] many thanks :-) I would understand if the support of 18.04 was stopped(complete remove 18.04 or remove today libxfce4panel-2.0-4 and xfce4-panel and keep set of previous non removable set), but it would be a pity when it is the last lts [20:50] of course, if i have any problem, i report it... i use xubuntu 18.04 + xubuntu-dev ppa as primary system/nb... [20:50] Bionic is only getting them because it is $current_release, not because it's LTS. [20:51] is any actual bug report page on another place that launchpad where is look like unused? or report it here on irc channel? or any mailing list? [20:52] understand, then after release 18.10, will be ppa for 18.04 stoped? i think from history that support yours dev ppa for 16.04 will be until 18.04 relases or not? [20:53] btw: sorry for me bad english :-) [20:54] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=bionic they're all buildin'. While usually it's recommended to report them to launchpad or Xfce's bugzilla, since these are in a PPA and we're evaluating whether to ship them or not I'd say we'd be specifically interested so IRC or the devel mailing list [20:54] would be good. And, well thses aren't really *backports*, they're more development releases. I don't personally like trying to backport to the last LTS as it gets considerably more difficult as time moves on, but I'm not the only dev in the Xubuntu team. :) [20:56] GTK3 version requirements get bumped higher than the LTS has, and libraries change (eg, we'll likely switch xfce4-indicator-plugin to use Ayatana indicators in cosmic, this would break on Bionic.) [21:03] build finished, published and i have succesfully all upgraded, i do restart lighdm session now... [21:06] Unit193: at first glance it's not any problem :-) thanks [21:07] You're welcome. [21:11] and i see that in xfce panel settings is now localised "Backup and Restore" button, nice, i reported this before :-) [21:20] flocculant: Can I get some QA buy-in on this, btw? [21:37] Unit193: i try all updates plugins (cpugraph mailwatch notes panel places quicklauncher sensors timer verve weather), add to panel and configure it, all work... only new plugin messenger i don't know if work, in panel settings not have icon and not posibility to configure [21:39] k3dAR: To be clear, while some of these are new plugins, most are just rebuilt against the new xfce4-panel. The messanger plugin is a very old plugin, and as far as I know doesn't even really have a home. I'd be surprised if that one worked. [21:40] xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin xfce4-hdaps are all oooold. [21:55] when talking about old plugins, is any chance of resurection of thunar-shares-plugin? :-) [21:58] ugh, 9year about 0.2 in git now see 0.3 version from 3 month ago [21:59] https://git.xfce.org/thunar-plugins/thunar-shares-plugin/commit/?id=9f9d2429217838b3b8375e41ab3675412cf1d0ed but seems it was only ported.. [22:04] yes, already downloaded and try compile, but thunarx is new for me :-) [22:11] ok, needed package libthunarx-3-dev [22:12] (RFP - #672539) http://bugs.debian.org/672539 thunar-shares-plugin [22:12] Debian bug 672539 in wnpp "RFP: thunar-shares-plugin -- samba usershare support for thunar filemanager (XFCE)" [Wishlist,Open] [22:24] Unit193: thunar-shares-plugin compiled&installed ok, but in folder properties not present :-) (user is in sambashare group, lightdm restarted) anyway good is after many years somebody work on it :-) [22:29] k3dAR_: I don't think it's really being worked on, just ported to the new thunar and gtk3. And you have to set the prefix to use it with system panel. [22:34] understand, i just want try it ;-) prefix set using autogen parameter as in README, that find where is thunarx prefix, /usr... also i look in README where is some usershare parameters for smb.conf, though mentioned is not need by user set from 8.04, but who know :-) [22:41] Unit193: modify smb.conf not help, but youre right, i have some problem with prefix, autoget show /usr, but install is to / ;-) [22:46] my bad, autogen show /usr before when i try with thunarx-3 parameter, but after i install correct dev package, then i use thunarx-1 as is in README and this not set preffix... anyway with right prefix /usr and really installed to /usr not show in folder properties [22:58] Unit193: ok, now in folder properties is shared tab, set share using it add to usershare ("net usershare list" show it) and via network is accessed :-) only problem was (as you say) with prefix, command from README set prefix to /usr, install put plugin in path /usr/lib/thunarx-3, but i look that real path for plugins (where i have already other installed thunar plugins) is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-3, and if manualy [23:03] https://s22.postimg.cc/juzn06wcx/thunar-1.8_with_thunar-shares-plugin-0.3.png [23:16] So the plugin actually works? [23:18] yes [23:18] Hrm.. [23:26] in source is only need fix detection of plugin path(try find here but not sure where) and in README for configure+autogen s/thunarx-1/thunarx-3/ === k3dAR_ is now known as k3dAR === k3dAR is now known as k3dar7