[05:10] <ubptgbot> <lastdon82> @Waldbursche, It works fine on mine
[05:12] <ubptgbot> <lastdon82> @TomasOqvist, In my case when I try to sync, I get loads of accounts showing up
[05:16] <ubptgbot> <lastdon82> I mean duplicate accounts
[06:40] <ubptgbot> <gostranger> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/7ZbzX21x.png
[06:40] <ubptgbot> <gostranger> I was shocked to see this in the morning
[06:40] <ubptgbot> <gostranger> But then realized it was a virus
[06:46] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> and that's why OT group exists :)
[09:44] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome joshim !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[10:03] <ubptgbot> <joshim> thanks @Bolly
[10:03] <ubptgbot> <joshim> im using 16.04 dev but can't find an email client in open store
[10:04] <ubptgbot> <joshim> what does everyone here use for imap email?
[10:05] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> dekko2 is still under dev for xenial
[10:05] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> I think the only option we have for now is using the webapp
[10:06] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> Whitch webapp?
[10:06] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> the web page of your email service provider
[10:08] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> Ah okay. No way for me. I have a number of providers 😅  No problem with 1 device with xenial and 1 device with vivid.
[10:10] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> #Tweetdeck is nice.
[10:12] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Waldbursche if you feel adventurous you can try to install Dekko2 vivid package on your xenial device
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> Dekko2 vivid is currently installed but don't start
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Oh, sorry then
[10:14] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> i can wait. Ubports guys makes a good job 👍🏼
[10:25] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> That's absolutely right :)
[10:26] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I've installed Dekko2 on xenial to see what happens and yes, it doesn't work https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wZ6dxJC7QY/
[11:09] <ubptgbot> <joshim> okay thanks
[11:29] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> Can BrowserNext handle bookmarks currently?
[11:32] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Nope
[11:35] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Oh, wait, it seems you need to open a new tab to see the bookmarks
[11:40] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> lol but Gallery has dissapeared on the latest xenial revision 😅
[11:42] <ubptgbot> <zubozrout> There are two versions of the Galery app for me. The one from system settings having higher release number - doesn't launch. And the one from OpenStore which works.
[11:48] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/00EjD0qT.png
[11:49] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Waldbursche ^
[11:51] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> Close the browser and reopen. The bookmarks are gone... 😅
[12:05] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> You're right, I would have sworn the bookmarks were still there the first time I restarted the browser 😆
[12:21] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Hi folks. Does anyone know what audio format the built in ring tones and notifications are in?
[12:38] <ubptgbot> hoh61 was added by: hoh61
[12:41] <ubptgbot> Bianca was added by: Bianca
[12:46] <ubptgbot> <Marcos> Guys. Any of you know if Kodi can be installed in UT?
[12:47] <ubptgbot> <Marcos> I have seen Kodimote on the store but I understand is just a remote control
[12:48] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @Marcos, That is a great application of UT on rasp pi.... :)
[12:49] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> I only know oonly know remote also...
[12:49] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> Hmm mm...  @KrisJacewicz ?
[12:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> if someone were to bulid a click of it, i'm sure it could be installed
[12:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, i think ogg
[12:55] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> That... Is good. I was hoping something like ogg. How about rephrasing question like this: could both ogg and flac be played by UT as ringtones and notifications if they ended up in OS as such?
[12:55] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i don't recall if flac decoder is installed
[12:56] <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> I have played flac on UT before. Quite certain.
[12:58] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, If you can play a file with media player or music player, it would work as a ringtone/notification sound.
[13:04] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> that is a great way to test it if that's true.  and that's reall all i need. thanks!
[13:06] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> I just realized that in file manager, if you press/hold to view the properties of a file, it's all cut off and you can't even see the format of the file (ie. .png, .flac, etc)
[13:09] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> FYI Ogg is confirmed playing just now in audio player so we will call that one 'off the list' and 'working'
[13:10] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> FYI Flac is also confirmed playing right now in media player
[13:10] <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> flac is quite large in size, but it does play yes
[13:11] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> well.. not sure why but i just converted an OGG to a FLAC and the file output was nearly identical. in fact it was slightly larger as OGG. but then again, I think I made the OGG at maximum quality... yeah.. That's why...
[13:12] <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> @wayneoutthere, the behaviour of the dev file manager may be different
[13:13] <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> File Manager (dev branch)
[13:16] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @hoh61 & Bianca  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
[13:19] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @exar_kun, yeah i feel little need to report bugs until i'm doing so on 16.04 but in case it's a quick/easy fix for someone developing now, there you have it.
[13:22] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, bugs in apps are often not related to the underlying OS version
[13:28] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> good point....  i always forget things like 'file manager' could be considered 'an app' but I guess all 'chunks' of the OS are 'app-like'
[13:29] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> 'sub projects' within a larger one, if you will
[13:29] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it is a separate app, packaged as a click
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <TomasOqvist> Before I issue a bug report for the GPS on Pro 5 (xenial), I just want to check if there is one already. I get "GPE denied" everytime I am asked to give an app permission to access the GPS.
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[15:26] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @Trol_lol !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[15:57] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @wayneoutthere, wav is usual
[15:59] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Or mp3 😂
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/iR0fjirb.png
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> finally scrollbars in the browser!
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> it looks big though when scaling is small....it's small in normal phone scaling LOL
[17:31] <ubptgbot> Giovisellan was added by: Giovisellan
[17:51] <ubptgbot> Nicola_No_Tesla was added by: Nicola_No_Tesla
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <Nicola_No_Tesla> Hello! I would like to try Ubuntu touch, but I can't find the devices supported list
[17:53] <ubptgbot> <Xray2000> @Nicola_No_Tesla, Try this one https://devices.ubports.com/#/
[17:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Xray2000, That's the old list and I don't know why it's still online. The official one is https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Nicola_No_Tesla see this ^
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <Xray2000> @advocatux, Oh i dont know that sorry...
[17:56] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Xray2000 no problem, it's not your fault. That page comes and goes, appears and dissapears, it's a nightmare 😆
[17:56] <ubptgbot> <Xray2000> @advocatux, Ok i see...
[17:57] <ubptgbot> <Nicola_No_Tesla> @advocatux, Thanks!
[17:57] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> 👍
[17:59] <ubptgbot> <Nicola_No_Tesla> Well my device isn't supported 😆 … Let's see if I can do something without getting a hardbrick … I'll tell you later
[18:01] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> What device is it?
[18:08] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> @Javacookies, I never thought I'd like scrollbars on a phone, because space, but they're actually really great on Ubuntu Touch!
[18:10] <ubptgbot> Christian Huber was added by: Christian Huber
[18:10] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @PhoenixLandPirate, well actually I don't like the current scrollbar in the new browser but it's a start :) and yeah I agree, I really like the scrollbar in UT
[18:14] <ubptgbot> <Nicola_No_Tesla> @advocatux, Kenzo, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 pro
[18:17] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> some people is (were?) working on porting Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Xiaomi Redmi 4X, and Xiaomi Redmi 2/Prime, but no Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 pro afaik https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+redmi
[18:18] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome Christian !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> In Ubports 15.10 is the 'dev' channel 16.04? Or do I need to reflash for 16.04?
[18:43] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Thinking of giving 16.04 a bash on my M10 tablet.
[19:04] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @ronnietucker, Nope, you need to install 16.04. You can do it keeping the previous content on your phone or removing it (wipe option)
[19:04] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> @advocatux, Thanks. I'll maybe give it a shot anyway. I've got nothing to lose on there anyway.
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Yes, it's perfect for testing and reporting bugs 👍
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> @advocatux, Is it pretty usable for just web browsing and email stuff?
[19:07] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> It depends, there's a new web browser to try, but there isn't a Dekko2 for xenial yet
[19:08] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Sounds grand. The current browser reloading pages when tab switching is a nuisance.
[19:50] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> @advocatux, How do I get the new browser? I've installed 16.04 and I still have the old one reloading tabs on switching.
[19:51] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> it's called WebBrowser Next, you can install it using the OpenStore app
[19:51] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> https://open-store.io/app/com.ubports.browserng
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> That was my next question: OpenStore has no images or apps listed...
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> What UT version is running on your phone? What OpenStore version?
[19:55] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> 16.04 (r92)
[19:55] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> and the OpenStore version?
[19:59] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Um... I load it up and look at which version is installed and it says its not compatible with my system. Installed version: none
[20:00] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> That's weird, can you type this on the terminal `click list | grep openstore` ?
[20:02] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Anyway, if you don't have OpenStore installed on your phone, download the xenial version from here https://open-store.io/app/openstore.openstore-team
[20:03] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> and install it using the terminal `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted path_to_the_openstore.click`
[20:03] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> openstore.openstore-team       2.40
[20:03] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> That's the latest
[20:03] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> try and install it anyway?
[20:04] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Maybe... I don't know why your installed one isn't working
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @ronnietucker can you see any update waiting to be install on your phone?
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Aw man. Solitaire is wonky too! It's the end of the world!  😄
[20:07] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> lol
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> No updates
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> At least Sudoku works...
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Neither on OpenStore nor System Settings > Updates?
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> BTW there's an issue with Gallery app now
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Yeah the Gallery app doesn't open
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <Cesar_Herrera> With E4.5 no. :(
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @ronnietucker, https://github.com/ubports/gallery-app/issues/65
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Any app I pick in OpenStore has screenshots, but no info
[20:11] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Did you do an upgrade or a fresh install?
[20:11] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Pulling down doesn't refresh anything
[20:11] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Fresh install of 16.04
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> didn't wipe though (if that makes any difference)
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> then maybe you have a cache problem. Delete the OpenStore cache and see if that's enough to solve your problem
[20:16] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Is that through the file manager, or is there a menu for that?
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> The easier way is using UT Tweak Tool
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> of course you can use the file manager or the terminal too
[20:19] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> device/cache has /blobs /lost+found /recovery and a file called device-build
[20:20] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> No, it's in `.cache` what are you using to look for that?
[20:22] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> sorry, using file manager
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> You have to check "show hidden files"
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> got it, but even unlocking file manager won't let me delete it. I think it'll need Terminal
[20:24] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> you need to slide the file to the right
[20:25] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> and press the trashcan
[20:26] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> still no difference.   😐
[20:26] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> (to OpenStore)
[20:26] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> deleted both openstore cache folders. Opening OpenStore recreates them both
[20:28] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Does your phone have a good Internet connection?
[20:29] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Yep. Full wifi connection. YouTube app plays videos no problem.
[20:30] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Hmm I don't know why your OpenStore isn't working. I'll try to get help. Wait a sec
[20:35] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Tried uninstalling Solitaire and it uninstalled fine by holding on the icon and uninstalling.
[20:37] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I've asked some people that could know how to fix your issue. Let's see
[20:38] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> In the meanwhile, can you delete the OpenStore cache again and reboot your phone?
[20:39] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> OK. Restarting...
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Ahhh!
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Nope. Still the same.  😄
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Oh
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> There's no rush on this. I'm just tinkering with it.
[20:42] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Right, but now I want to know why it doesn't work as intended :)
[20:43] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Well, first: I'm a jinx  😄
[20:43] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> 😂
[20:43] <ubptgbot> <rezybleezx> I don't know if I could ask it here, but is there any FOSS alternatives for verdana?
[20:43] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> That's the best attribute to be a beta-tester
[20:45] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @rezybleezx not really (maybe DejaVu Sans)
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <rezybleezx> Thank you and sorry for the trouble :)
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> np
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @ronnietucker the wiser voice told me "re-install the app again" :)
[20:51] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> @advocatux, using the command you mentioned earlier?
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Yes
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> what's the URL to the app?
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Fwd from advocatux: Anyway, if you don't have OpenStore installed on your phone, download the xenial version from here https://open-store.io/app/openstore.openstore-team
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Fwd from advocatux: and install it using the terminal `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted path_to_the_openstore.click`
[20:53] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> do I download it to the tablet, or use that URL?
[20:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> You need to download that app to your tablet using that URL :)
[20:55] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> and then run that command on your phone terminal
[20:56] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> I have to leave for 30 minutes or so. I'll be back
[20:57] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> No rush. I'm about to head off to bed, so if I'll let you know how it goes.
[20:57] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> Thanks for all the help!
[21:04] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/VxCXeqhr.png Tried the command and got this error.
[21:04] <ubptgbot> <ronnietucker> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/9R2Az0py.png Even tried it with a SUDO for good measure.
[21:53] <ubptgbot> <hoh61> @ronnietucker : did you try to reboot your device? surprisingly it helped for different issues, even for a lost open store. "https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/663"