[00:47] @wayneoutthere, Another person said in one of the groups that Kodi has in fact mir backend, so there you go. … You can also install the gtk backend kodi and use it via xmir, BUT the video will be non-accellerated that way so not really usable. This is perhaps going to be no longer an issue after either xmir accellerated g [00:47] raphics are fixed on ARM, or when xwayland replaces xmir and ships with accelerated graphics. [00:55] bala7s was added by: bala7s [06:00] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/1iAHJ7on.webp [06:00] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6L1pBkwq.mp4 [06:19] Jakub Hanzlík was added by: Jakub Hanzlík [06:23] Hello! Is there anyone I could speak to about how could I contribute to this interesting project? I have read everything on the web, but feel like I learned nothing - I just feel like speaking to someone who has been here for a while would be the best option 😁 [07:02] Ramasai was added by: Ramasai [07:02] Hello [07:02] Can anyone tell me how to port Ubuntu touch os [07:04] Micromax a103 is my phone === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:11] I think There is a need of some helpful video tutorials about porting [07:12] Ya [07:12] But I got link on porting [07:13] Its good but as I'm a beginner it's not helping me😒 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:31] @Ramasai, Mediatek soc [07:31] I don't think you really can [07:31] Oh [07:32] But I'll try [07:32] 😁 [08:24] Hehe, just bumped into this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/uphone/ (pretty old, from 06-Dec-2011). Did they plan Ubuntu Phone back then already or was this to be just some Android launcher? [08:24] @zubozrout, They planned Ubuntu Touch back in 2009 [08:26] just what "ubuntu touch" was supposed to actually be changed over time [08:32] @Jakub Hanzlík, (I like a lot of people here have no "official capacity" here. I just help out when I see some issue going by that I have the interest, knowledge, skills and time to address.) … If you are interested in some specific aspect of the project and/or have particular knowledge or skills and/or useful resources [08:32] to offer then that would indicate an appropriate way to contribute. [08:36] @Jakub Hanzlík, Join Welcome & Install group [08:39] @Ramasai, Android 2.2 based? [08:39] @Stereofont, Ahhh ahhh😂 [08:40] @CapraNorvegese, Not funny but certainly problematic [08:41] @Stereofont, Like nexus 5x [08:41] Not funny at all [08:43] As has been said before, a device should be selected for porting for some clear reason. 'Having that device' is not really a clear reason [08:43] Hmmm, so MTK SoCs are not portable? I built a few ROMs before, though I still consider myself a total beginner [08:48] There are UT devices on MTK but those were first ported by Canonical, with source access [08:49] Without that, really not possible [08:51] hello all, i have a question, and i hope it is not an offtopic. I am using nexus 5 with ubports, and when i plug the charger, the battery icon changes, but in 2 seconds it returns to non-charging battery icon, and the mobile does not charge any more. I have tried with 3 differents batteries and the same happens. I have also change [08:51] d the charging module from another nexus 5 and the problem still occurs. Does anyone know about this issue? Thank you!!! [08:52] @asierurbi, Tried a different USB cable? [08:53] @Stereofont Regarding the porting, what's the best device to port UT to? I expect something that has official LineageOS support could make things easier. Then it should not be MTK. Any other factors? [08:54] hello @alan_griffiths , I forgot to tell that i have tried several usb cable and chargers [08:55] Oh, but if you have 1 MTK phone running UT, then its really simple to get it running on another x devices with the same soc. and theres no way getting sources from Mediatek? [08:59] @asierurbi, I've a Nexus 5 but only seen this as a result of a loose or faulty USB cable. I can only guess that the socket in your phone is faulty. (Maybe it just needs cleaning.) [09:02] @alan_griffiths, i also have changed the socket from another n5 and same error 😭 [09:02] maybe also use different adapters (the part that goes in the wall socket) maybe the phone is not accepting the voltage? (no idea if n5 does that) [09:05] @YougoChats, i am using the same adapters from the beginning [09:06] @zubozrout, We had a discussion about RAM. Although there are devices running with 1Gb that is not optimal and unless you want also to develop a 'UT lite' the threshold is around 1.5Gb [09:06] @Stereofont Also, if you want to break language barrier for Czechia (I think we have a solid Ubuntu community) I could definitely work on translations [09:06] If you want convergence, a slimport is ideal [09:07] Jakub There would be quite a few places Czech translations could be imrpoved :). But I am not sure if translations acre currently possible. [09:07] [Edit] Jakub There would be quite a few places Czech translations could be improved :). But I am not sure if translations acre currently possible. [09:07] [Edit] Jakub There would be quite a few places Czech translations could be improved :). But I am not sure if translations are currently possible. [09:07] @Jakub Hanzlík, We have Czech mostly? [09:07] Whooops [09:07] @Stereofont, Haha no it's KitKat [09:08] @Jakub Hanzlík, You could join the language group [09:09] I was looking for it on the web. Didnt notice it. Sorry. [09:09] Yeah, it's not here: https://ubports.com/community/get-involved/focus-languagetranslation [09:09] @Ramasai, Halium is 5, 6 and 7 I think? Check out Halium [09:13] @zubozrout, UT doesn't use a physical button. A small point but maybe a device without one? Also of course no 'notch' [09:14] What halium [09:14] ? [09:15] The impression I get is 2 people posting the same phone is good for morale and problem solving. Having 7 people is bad. Imagine that many people working on one oil painting… Ego and detail get in the way [09:16] Hugo Venhorst: … if you have questions while porting, you may ask them in the Halium porting group: https://t.me/halium [09:18] sorry what? i'm not porting, nor have questions about it currently, but thanks? [09:23] @zubozrout, Mhm, where can I join then? [09:23] @Jakub Hanzlík, I don't know either :( [09:24] @Stereofont Regarding the Telegram language group, which one is that please? [09:27] @Jakub Hanzlík, Can you make a username in Telegram? Allows invites and pings [09:28] @Stereofont, Done. [09:28] @zubozrout, Seems like we have enough for a Czech group? [09:31] Well, I thought there is some global translation group here but if not then I only know of 3 people from the Czech Republich beign on UT Telegram now. [09:31] [Edit] Well, I thought there is some global translation group here but if not then I only know of 3 people from the Czech Republich being on UT Telegram now. [09:32] [Edit] Well, I thought there is some global translation group here but if not then I only know of 3 people from the Czech Republic being on UT Telegram now. [09:33] [Edit] Well, I thought there is some global translation group here but if not then I only know of 3 people (including me) from the Czech Republic being on UT Telegram now. [09:33] @zubozrout, I added Jakub [09:34] Three is enough to begin a group [09:34] hehe, will have to do, yes :) [09:34] Will chat with Milan later [09:34] Language groups often grow fast [09:35] There is at least one Slovak [09:35] In that case could you please send me the link to that group as well? [09:36] oh, we can merge Czech and Slovak together ... we are used to that :) [09:37] @zubozrout, That group is for langauge leaders. Again, wait for Milan and we will sort out roles properly 😃 [09:37] @zubozrout, [Edit] That group is for language leaders. Again, wait for Milan and we will sort out roles properly 😃 [09:37] aha, ok - didn't know :). Thanks [09:39] Scandinavian group even includes Icelandic 😏 [09:40] Oh, that's one group for all 4 languages? [09:40] Yes [09:41] Well, at least Czech and Slovak are relatively close so that we understand each other with little or no issues :) [09:42] Icelandic is really quite distant [09:43] Yeah, I'd guess so :) [11:24] 😱blue text... must... not ...click mind strong... body weak [11:32] @zubozrout, didn't y'all have a war to stop doing that? ;) [11:33] @dohbee What? Here? I don't think so. That was Yugoslavia afaik [11:34] @zubozrout, Existing LineageOS port is a good reference, because it means kernel source and device tree are available, so should be fairly simple to get halium working on it, and the hardware should be mostly working. [11:34] @zubozrout, yeah, splitting Czechoslovakia into Czech Republic and Slovakia [11:35] This was a political decision in 1992, but no war fortunately :) [11:35] ah, right [11:36] so much going on in eastern europe in 80s-90s, my brain ends up blurring some of them together sometimes :) [11:37] Imaging living there 😃 [11:39] british people today can relate i think [11:39] well at least nobody got thrown out a window this time [11:40] @popescu_sorin, some of the Balkan states are quite nice actually. i could definitely live there [11:44] @popescu_sorin, especially in my country......Romania is the best country to live if you have a lots of euros if you have only lei is fucked up [11:56] @dohbee, I really recommend you to not call czechs "eastern europe" 😹 [11:57] @Ramasai, If it's Android 4.2+ and you have kernel sources, device/vendor trees, etc… it should be portable. If there's no kernel sources and device/vendor trees, you can't port it [12:23] @YougoChats, . [12:23] @YougoChats Exactly why I did that [12:26] Iamclown was added by: Iamclown [12:26] Mother fucking group with mother fuckers [12:38] Hi Guy's i got today my Oneplus one now i have a wierd problem when i install dev/16.04 it install and boots then you see install updates but after some time it go to ubports recovery... ? [12:42] @dohbee, Yeah mine is 4.4 so call you please tell me the procedure [12:42] 1.update kernel … 2.update DT … 3.make changes to vendor [12:43] 😢I'm kinda new to this [12:43] But want to try it [12:44] A bit more clarity would be helpful [12:44] @Xray2000, Really strange, have you tried to reinstall? [12:45] @Ramasai, what is your soc [12:45] check in cpu-z (it's in googleplay) [12:45] Mediatek [12:45] Mt-6735 [12:45] Right, but there's more to it than that. We're looking for its model number [12:46] @Ramasai, This is it right [12:46] what was the phone again? [12:46] And it only has Android 4.2? No 5.1? [12:46] Sorry wait [12:47] 6572 [12:47] ok [12:48] Does your phone's manufacter provide some open source binaries? [12:49] ExploShotOo was added by: ExploShotOo [12:49] Sorry but how will I check that? [12:50] Give us your phone model and manufacturer [12:50] Micromax A102 [12:51] Mtk chipset [12:51] https://github.com/adi766/kernel_s5201ap_kk [12:51] 6572 [12:51] Apparently there's some source for that one [12:51] So next? [12:51] Thing [12:52] https://github.com/adi766/android_device_Micromax_A102 [12:52] Looks like this guy has done work for that device [12:52] https://github.com/adi766/android_vendor_Micromax_A102 [12:52] Also you'll need to either downgrade it to cm-12.1 or update to lineage 14.1 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:53] Oh [12:53] May I know y? [12:54] Halium is adapted only to these versions [12:54] I don't know what has changed between MM and LP [12:54] Previously I used it with cm [12:54] Should I flash a cm [12:55] Or lineage [12:55] ? [12:55] is there lineage for it...? [12:55] I used rr it's ok right? [12:56] Got it there's a lineage rom [12:56] Sooo if I get a LineageOS or CM, Halium is able to work with that? [12:57] Shall I flash it? [12:58] Link please [13:00] Wait.. Wanted to try to port UT to my device, lucky enough, it has same chipset as your MicroMax [13:00] https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lineageos-t3598113 [13:02] Ok... sources for this are the links I sent you earlier [13:02] Ok [13:17] @Ramasai, Let me know how it works for you. I think I might be able to use some things from that repo [13:19] Sure [13:19] @kuskus3 [13:29] Welcome @ExploShotOo !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [15:38] Sorry to be basic but I know there is work being put in to moving to 16.04. is it listed anywhere what the benefits will be? [15:42] @Pete, Benefits are better stability and support (security fixes) by canonical for example [15:43] @Pete, [Edit] Main benefits are better stability and support (security fixes) by canonical for example [15:58] @unknown, Thanks. And how is 16.04 related to the desktop OS...is it the same thing and a matter of making it fit onto mobile? Or pretty different? [16:14] If your asking if it will have the desktop interface on mobile, the answer is no, other than that I don't know [16:19] @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip Yo! Can we shutdown the phablet git repo yet? :) [16:19] (I am getting pushed by the IS people to shut it down) [16:20] In review after being pushed Wednesday: https://github.com/ubports/android/pull/9 [16:23] Sorry to intrude with this unrelated question but who are IS people? [16:24] My guess is Information Security. [16:24] I totally get the request to shut down Gerrit. [16:24] Oh, ok, thanks :) [16:25] Infrastructure services is what i thought [16:25] 😊 [16:25] @zubozrout, could be ISIS [16:25] ya [16:36] @DanChapman, "Information Systems" iirc [16:37] or better just say "BOFHs" :) [18:03] Does anyone know how translation updates are treated on the stable and devel channels respectively? What is the schedule or what are the deadlines for when they get merged in? [18:05] [Edit] Does anyone know how translation updates are treated on the stable and devel channels, respectively? What is the schedule or what are the deadlines for when they get merged in? [18:06] @aribk, The system translations are part of the rootfs, so "updates" for end users come via the OTAs in that respect. i don't think there is a set schedule with freeze dates and such yet, for getting new OTAs of ubports released, though [18:27] @dohbee, As far as I've understood from the Q&A broadcasts OTA-4 is scheduled for release at the end of June. But perhaps that was tentative? Anyway, I'm interested in getting some things merged in in time for this. [18:28] i think it will be release candidate by end of june, and then hopefully released to stable soon after that [18:29] @aribk, are you asking about updating an existing translation that's selectable on the phone today, or getting new languages made available for use on the phone? [18:30] Updating existing translation. [18:31] ok, i think they've mostly been getting merged automatically via the weblate stuff [18:31] ping @Flohack ^^ [18:32] Thanks! Will do. [18:45] @dohbee, http://translate.ubports.com [18:46] But we are far from having all repos with all branches set up there [18:46] If you are looking for smth specific plz ask me [18:47] thanks @Flohack just wanted to make sure i was giving accurate info to @aribk [18:58] I flashed 16.04 (over 15.10, but with no wipe) on my M10 and got a broken OpenStore (screenshots, but no info). So, I thought I'd try it again (16.04 over 16.04 but with a wipe this time) but the UBports installer can't seem to reboot the device: … Adb failed to reboot!, reboot failed: -1 … (yes, I'm running the latest installe [18:58] r :) ) [18:59] [Edit] I flashed 16.04 (over 15.10, but with no wipe) on my M10 and got a broken OpenStore (screenshots, but no info). So, I thought I'd try it again (16.04 over 16.04 but with a wipe this time) but the UBports installer can't seem to reboot the device: … Adb failed to reboot!, reboot failed: -1 … (yes, I'm running the latest i [18:59] nstaller and dev mode is on :) ) [19:03] @ronnietucker, over 15.04 i hope you mean? [19:03] @dohbee, Sorry, yes, 15.10 ☺️ [19:05] reboot the phone by hand? i've seen that a couple times just when running `adb reboot` by hand, but i'm not sure what caused it [19:06] @dohbee, Using the power/volume keys? [19:08] @ronnietucker, if you need to get to fastboot or recovery, yes [19:15] Yeah. Seems like I need to use power+vol up to get it into the recovery screen first THEN let the installer autoselect and do its thing. Very odd. [19:26] @Tygerpro Tygerpro, I run 16.04 on my desktop. How is the desktop 16.04 related to the mobile 16.04 or are they totally different? [19:27] @Pete, they are different [19:32] Hello :) [19:32] Is the Sony Xperia Z2 or Z5 in your list for working devices? [19:33] @ExploShotOo, Z2 once I finish Sailfish [19:33] and get a new harddrive [19:34] 😍 [20:10] @ronnietucker, You could try downloading the Xenial version of the store from the web then transfer that manually to the tablet. After that follow the terminal install procedure. Worked for me [20:13] @Stereofont, Tried that with no joy. Even tried deleting the cache folders. [20:14] It seems that the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 with no wipe can cause a problem/two. [20:15] @ronnietucker, hmm, i haven't had any issues on my nexus 4 switching between 15.04 and 16.04 [20:17] @ronnietucker, It did need a restart (maybe two) to get comfortable [20:18] @ronnietucker, Maybe a good idea to pop into the OpenStore group [20:19] @Stereofont, I tried a couple of times, but no dice. I ended up flashing 16.04 again, bu this time with a wipe. [20:19] @dohbee, did you do a wipe? I didn't and that's when I got some grief from the OpenStore [20:20] @ronnietucker, No wipe… [20:20] no, i didn't. i just use `system-image-cli` on device to switch channels [20:21] It was weird. Even trying to install OpenStore it was giving me an error something about the calendar. I posted screenshots of it in here yesterday. [21:33] @Flohack, Hi @Flohack. What @dohbee was referring to was his answer to my question about deadlines and schedule for merging of translation updates. I'm working on the translation to Norwegian and want to know if there's a deadline for getting changes into OTA-4 when it gets released? [21:35] No, we can do this quite close to the actual release. It starts with getting new updates to the RC channel, as soon as you see this, you should expect only 2 weeks or even 1 week to go [21:35] But as I said, the translatable projects are just a puzzle and not all fragments are online [21:36] Hmmm. Well, what isn't there yet can be fixed later, I'm sure. There's enough to work on as it is. ;) [21:38] @Flohack, BTW _how_ do I see this? [21:38] you would need to switch your device to the rc channel of 16.04 [21:38] then you will get updates for example [21:38] OK. Thanks. [21:39] lol [21:41] @Flohack, At the moment, there's no RC channel, right? Then when it's there it will appear under Update settings? Am I right? [21:44] @aribk, RC is a relic of Vivid at the moment [21:44] @aribk, Correct [21:45] OK. Got it! [22:08] @aribk, yes