[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> tough crowd tonight
[01:25] <Bashing-om> won't even crack a smile .. what a crowd .
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> maybe my question is too hard
[01:27] <Bashing-om> Well, I for one do not know KDE - or "display modes" .
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> display modes => display resolutions
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> I have what I need... I just don't know where to add the modeline for X to pick up on it... I'm hoping there is an appropriate place so that it is available on boot, but a user can select a preferred resolution if they like and it won't get overriden by a script execution
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> looks like a got it sorted :-)
[01:33] <daftykins> so you mean xorg.conf?
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> possibly... xorg.conf is deprecated though
[01:34] <daftykins> no there just isn't one by default these days
[01:34] <daftykins> when you need to change things? that's when it comes back :>
[01:35] <pragmaticenigma> in 16.04 there was a way to leverage a conf.d folder
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> but I'm not seeing that folder ... so I'm uncertain if it will wrk
[01:36] <daftykins> oh yeah that crap
[01:36] <daftykins> i don't think that really added to the experience much
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> I try very hard not to create the default conf files, as updates/upgrades will through the familiar... this file doesn't match the maintainers...
[01:36] <pragmaticenigma> s/through/throw
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> I followed this site for now, and it appears to be working: https://techblog.omidfarhang.com/en-us/2018/05/24/set-permanent-custom-resolution-for-ubuntu-and-kde/
[01:38] <daftykins> what was special about what you needed btw?
[01:39] <daftykins> hmm sddm, guess it's all special for KDE
[01:39] <daftykins> gives me a real YOLD feeling when you have to bury in configs for a custom res again
[01:39] <daftykins> also - https://xkcd.com/963/
[01:40] <pragmaticenigma> I don't know... when I installed, it auto discovered the resolution just fine... after running "apt upgrade" which included new kernel... it will only give 1024x768... this is via VGA.. if I use the DVI, everything is fine
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> but I need it VGA... since this machine is a secondary input to the monitor
[01:41] <daftykins> what graphics? sounds like DDC got killed
[01:42] <daftykins> blargh VGA in 2018, treat yourself :D
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> I really need to... but doing the life thing... ya know, mortgage, surprise medical bills (everything is a-okay), and more
[01:45] <Bashing-om> pragmaticenigma: And that washing machine is on it's last legs . Any day now, fork out the bucks for a replacement .. meanwhile, I still have not scrounged up the bucks to replace the UPS for this machine :(
[01:45] <pragmaticenigma> onboard Intel graphics daftykins ... the monitor supports a funky resolution as it's max 1400x1050
[01:46] <daftykins> that's not a res i'm used to, 1680x1050 or 1400x900 usually
[01:46] <daftykins> there are a lot of generations of intel
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... it's a strange one
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> I'll grab lspci
[01:46] <daftykins> nah nevermind
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> good because lspci was worthless for information
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> can't get more generic than Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:48] <daftykins> sandybridge
[01:48] <daftykins> yeah you would grep /proc/cpuinfo for your CPU model and then use ark.intel.com for the ID
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> ah
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> that's a round about way to get Intel® HD Graphics 2000
[01:52] <daftykins> straightforward in Linux terms
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> what I have now will work for the time being... this is my test machine to prepare my main rig for it's upgrade to 18.04
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> trying KDE instead of Gnome, to see if I'm ready to make it a daily driver again (Plasma's early days where just too buggy and the cashew... annoying little cashew)
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:01] <sonicwind> good evening :-)
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> hey sonicwind
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> all good on your side?
[03:02] <sonicwind> yep
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> coffee and irc before work here
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !info glade
[06:00] <EriC^^> morning all
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> hey hey
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader
[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:06] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> all good lordievader ?
[06:08] <lordievader> Doing good here, how are you, lotuspsychje ?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> all fine here mate, we have dutch upstairs company renewing our stairs today
[06:11] <lordievader> The VT wonen company 😋
[06:11] <lordievader> ?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yep thats the one
[06:11] <lordievader> IIRC that is the company in every episode which renovates the stairs.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> yes
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> expensive, but looks like its gonna be great afterwards :p
[06:21] <lordievader> I hope so for you 😉
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> neat https://www.deviantart.com/art/Antiliv-748684574
[06:39] <ducasse> good morning
[06:39] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:39] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:41] <ducasse> hi lordievader - i'm good thanks, and you?
[06:41] <lordievader> Doing good, reading the news for a bit.
[06:42] <ducasse> same here, trying to catch up :)
[06:49] <ducasse> well, have a cup of coffee, read the news and have a wonderful day, lordievader
[06:49] <lordievader> You too ducasse
[09:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:32] <Allie`> I'd love to see an ubuntu anniversary edition, that's just 4.10 but bought up-to-date :D
[11:46] <lordievader> But then it ain't 4.10 anymore, is it?
[11:47] <Allie`> as long as it looks and feels like 4.10 :P
[11:47]  * Allie` misses the boot chime, among other things
[11:49] <lordievader> You can still get the iso's, right?
[11:49] <lordievader> I.e. you can still run them in a vm.
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Allie`, maybe the trinity desktop might bring back memories :-)
[11:50] <Allie`> BluesKaj: I am enjoying Ubuntu with MATE rn
[12:17] <BluesKaj> ok, gnome never did much for me , but kde made me feel at home, being an old windows user
[12:18] <Allie`> I never felt at home on windows :P
[12:36] <BluesKaj> I used windows on the job since 1988/89 , so i got used to it after a while, but i haven't used it much at , just to help my wife who was afraid of Linux. She needed windowd for fav games anyway LOTRO, and D&D  etc.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> at all
[12:37] <BluesKaj> lately :-)
[13:53] <JimBuntu> D&D BluesKaj ? Nerd! lol. j/k
[13:57] <BluesKaj> my wife was a bit nerdy, and very smart, that's who gave my kids their smarts :-)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu,^
[14:01] <JimBuntu> Yes BluesKaj ... same here.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> I was a slow learner, barely made it out of high school , but discovered my nerdy side when I got into audio and realized I enjoyed dong lab work. I kind of lucked out when I got hired to work in lab testing pulp and paper on the production line
[14:03] <JimBuntu> Lucky you. I was always nerdy :-( I was lucky though, the jocks learned quickly that it was beneficial to have a nerd for a friend. Especially when it came to knowing what nerve endings to strike to drop that person picking on you.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> s...that'sa when it became really interesting to me
[14:04] <BluesKaj> when progressed from there to environmental analysis using lab instrument
[14:04] <BluesKaj> s
[14:06] <BluesKaj> well, I was a jock and a partier, never picked on anyone unless they tried to pick on me which most soon regreetted
[14:11] <BluesKaj> doesn't hurt to be 6'5" ...most ppl leave you alone :-)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ok, back to Cosmic
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> all good on your new job nacc ?
[18:29] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yeah it's been a busy little-over 1 month!
[18:29] <nacc> lotuspsychje: thanks for asking!
[18:29] <nacc> learning a lot about what it takes to run a cloud :)
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> np, doing more hours?
[18:32] <nacc> lotuspsychje: i'd say about the same, i'm on the engineering side, not the support side, so that helps :)
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> nacc: glad you like it, and still be with us..your on 2 worlds now :p
[18:33] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yeah that parts been a little tricky :)
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> nacc: real life on nr1 :p
[18:34] <nacc> also having to get used to using slack! so much worse than irc
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> the rest is irc idle
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> they use slack professional?
[18:35] <nacc> lotuspsychje: not sure if you mean if they use it professionally or if there is some special version of slack. I am using the snap slack client and the entire company uses slack for just about everything :)
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> ahh slack snap
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah ive tested that one once
[18:36] <nacc> it works surprisingly well -- and i think upstream has responded to a few bugs i've hit, which was nice
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> i tested todoist for a while too, more online
[18:38] <oerheks_> gamblore again..
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> that guys does some serious trolling :p
[18:48] <oerheks> oooh.. i think the heat is kicking in, i'll be gentle with support
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:48]  * lotuspsychje gives leftyfb a hammer :p
[18:48] <oerheks> yeah, people die over sudo ...
[18:49] <leftyfb> if only
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> where's the banvote when you need one lol
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> .vote troll56
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> troll56 has been kicked
[18:53] <leftyfb> now that would be good to have
[18:53] <oerheks> oh, then i would be BFL
[18:53] <oerheks> banned-for-life :-D
[18:53] <leftyfb> it would be merit based
[18:54] <leftyfb> would be severely broken otherwise
[18:56]  * leftyfb waits for the entire paste dump to the channel again
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:57]  * lotuspsychje waits for the real users at 18.04.1
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> but for now a bit tv :p
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> ttyl guys
[19:46] <leftyfb> https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/06/microsofts-failed-attempt-on-debian-packaging/
[19:46] <leftyfb> this is insane
[19:53] <oerheks> forcibly relinking /bin/sh to bash :-D
[19:54] <oerheks> Hanlon's razor comment covers this perfectly
[19:56] <Tegu> rm /bin/sh   what could go wrong
[19:59] <Tegu> also, I can't help but "... an open source implementation of R with some improvements." reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
[20:01] <kostkon> Tegu, or this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine
[20:01] <oerheks> i like Bing, i must say...