| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:30 |
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| rick_h_ | Morning | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | How goes the party? | 13:26 |
| brousch | Everyone still has their clothes on | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | Boooo | 13:27 |
| cmaloney | dammit | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | I was really hoping for naked dancing | 13:43 |
| * cmaloney checks the user list | 13:44 | |
| cmaloney | nevermind | 13:44 |
| jrwren | no, plz keep clothes on. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | I think removing them may violate the CoC | 14:10 |
| cmaloney | heh | 16:54 |
| jrwren | ugh, layoffs. am i rite? | 17:29 |
| greg-g | hmm? | 17:34 |
| jrwren | layoffs at work. lots of coworkers gone :( | 17:35 |
| greg-g | :( | 17:35 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Fuck, that sucks | 17:51 |
| cmaloney | Never a good sign, from someone on both sides of receiving and sitting in a cubicle after they've happened | 17:51 |
| jrwren | this is 3 jobs in a row that I'm ready to leave after layoffs :( | 17:56 |
| greg-g | dang :( | 17:57 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Shit. I'm sorry to hear that | 18:00 |
| greg-g | I'm going to be hiring a Sr Engineer soon :) | 18:03 |
| greg-g | I don't have anything posted yet, but I'll be posting here as soon as I do | 18:03 |
| cmaloney | <3 | 18:03 |
| greg-g | I have 2 hires to make this year (one Sr, one not) | 18:03 |
| jrwren | it might take me a while to swallow my pride and go back to writing PHP. :p | 18:07 |
| brousch | Bah, just convert it to Python! | 18:21 |
| jrwren | why, so it can run 100X slower? | 18:21 |
| jrwren | ICYMI, PHP is REALLY fast now. | 18:21 |
| brousch | Bah, just get more servers! | 18:23 |
| jrwren | that costs money. | 18:23 |
| jrwren | you were just fired or not hired for understanding the economics of the project. | 18:24 |
| jrwren | Also, servers cost a lot of electricity in running and cooling. just buying more servers is not green and hurts the environment and contributes to global warming. | 18:24 |
| jrwren | Why do you hate earth, Ben? WHY?!?! :) | 18:24 |
| greg-g | jrwren: my part of the org doesn't do PHP :) | 18:26 |
| greg-g | jrwren: Python and Go | 18:26 |
| jrwren | greg-g: I'm not sure if I should :) that or :( that. | 18:28 |
| greg-g | definitely :) | 18:29 |
| greg-g | I mean, we're a Jenkins + Zuul shop, so similar to OpenStack wrt CI infra. But we're moving to containers for everything with k8s etc. | 18:30 |
| jrwren | running your own k8s clusters? | 18:30 |
| greg-g | pawning that off to our SRE team, but yeah | 18:30 |
| jrwren | a separate SRE team? | 18:30 |
| greg-g | well... Our Operations team recently renamed themselves to SRE | 18:32 |
| jrwren | now the can demand double the salary. | 18:33 |
| greg-g | they'll try :) | 18:33 |
| jrwren | so they'll be writing product code in all the products they host now too, right? | 18:33 |
| greg-g | ish? I mean, they do have MediaWiki experts on the team who are heavily involved with arch review | 18:34 |
| greg-g | not a major cultural/process change though, no | 18:34 |
| greg-g | just modernizing the name, afiact | 18:34 |
| jrwren | SRE's are supposed to be part of the team building the product and contributing to code on that product. *shrug* | 18:36 |
| jrwren | at least according to https://landing.google.com/sre/book.html | 18:36 |
| greg-g | yeah... I know | 18:37 |
| jrwren | its interesting to hear how different orgs and changing and how they aren't. | 18:37 |
| cmaloney | Just run all of Wikipedia off of a Raspberry PI | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | problem solved | 18:38 |
| jrwren | LMAO | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | I mean, I can run whatevercloud 0.9 on it so it should scale | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | whatevercloud is my PHP replacement for everything cloud-related | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | instead of actually doing anything it just sits there with a spinner to remind you not to use the cloud for anything | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | it's my art piece | 18:39 |
| jrwren | hahahahaha | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | Reminds me of the time when someone (not going to say who) came in wtih a Raspberry Pi "portable" setup | 18:42 |
| cmaloney | He then began touting all of the benefits of a RPi, which I fully agree | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | I think it's an amazing computer | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | but he had a monitor on a monitor stand, and a power strip zip-tied to the back of it | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | he then pulls out a keyboard and proceeds to look for the plugs at Bean and Leaf | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | (This was at CHC Royal Oak, and if you remember tghe layout of CHC Royal Oak you'll remember that the place has two pairs of outlets that we've discovered) | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | and they're usually occupied by folks who are also savvy to this | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | He then moves his setup and then proceeds to demonstrate the power of the RPi | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | which was fine. More power to him | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | But when it came time to leave I folded up my x120e and stuffed it into my backpack while he was fiddling with breaking down his setup. | 18:46 |
| jrwren | lol | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | And all I could think of was my days as a drummer when folks would pack up their instruments and begin gabbing with each other while I was sitting there with a drum key taking my fucking drums apart | 18:46 |
| jrwren | well, if that is what you value, i fold up my macbook air and stuff it or not, rather often. :p | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | and then had to carry everything out to the car / bus afterward | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, again, more power to him | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | but I value a little more portability than what the bog-standard Pi gives me | 18:47 |
| * cmaloney is still curious about the PiTop | 18:48 | |
| cmaloney | and the Pinebook | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | although I think those have their own issues | 18:48 |
| jrwren | I ran a Pi on 4AA batteries once. It didn't last very long. | 18:50 |
| jrwren | what version of Pi was it that was so beloved? because Pi1 was pretty underpowered and 2 and 3 are nice, but the IO limits are such that I'd not use it for day to day. | 18:57 |
| flipsidecreation | Can anyone tell me a compelling reason to run an AntiVirus on Linux Desktop System? | 19:04 |
| jrwren | wine can run windows viruses really well. :) | 19:05 |
| flipsidecreation | that is a good point | 19:05 |
| flipsidecreation | I noticed this exists https://www.eset.com/us/home/antivirus-linux/ | 19:07 |
| cmaloney | As far as protective measures for Linux I think it's pointless | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | but as a means to run ClamAV on a Windows mount it makes sense | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: The 3B+ is supposed to be the hotness now | 19:09 |
| cmaloney | but yeah, the Pi is rather weak for I/O | 19:10 |
| jrwren | i have a couple 3B+ and the IO is still terrible. | 19:10 |
| jrwren | its great at everything else. I like it. | 19:11 |
| cmaloney | 3B+ or 3B? | 19:11 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I have a 3B doing Mycroft using the Google AIY kit | 19:11 |
| cmaloney | http://mycroft.ai | 19:11 |
| cmaloney | AKA the AI that I want to see succeed just as soon as it stops running into the walls | 19:12 |
| jrwren | 3B+ | 19:13 |
| jrwren | new just a month or so ago. | 19:13 |
| jrwren | 1.4Ghz instead of 1.2Ghz and teh wifi and bt4.1LE | 19:13 |
| cmaloney | Ah, coolness | 19:13 |
| jrwren | it actually hosts my xmtp.net email :) | 19:13 |
| cmaloney | The one that I really am interested in is the RISC-V chip | 19:13 |
| jrwren | a buddy found a place that will co-locate PI for $7/mo and so we are paying for that. | 19:13 |
| cmaloney | Oh that's awesome | 19:14 |
| cmaloney | Local, or out-of-state? | 19:14 |
| jrwren | out of state. | 19:14 |
| cmaloney | https://snapcraft.io/tootstream <- up-to-date packages my aching arse. | 20:04 |
| waldo323 | a2hosting's unlimited plan isn't unlimited space :-\ | 21:11 |
| Scary_Guy | https://v.redd.it/sjmsub4wrd311/DASH_2_4_M | 21:35 |
| waldo323 | I used the pi 3 b+ for the photobooth I brought to penguicon witch Craig's photobooth software on it | 21:37 |
| greg-g | waldo323: yeah :( I ended up getting a weird "big data" VPS from a company I wasn't familiar with for my backups. 1tb for $10/mo | 21:38 |
| waldo323 | my dad has photos from the 50s or earlier through now which we put on my space when then flickr+smugmug announcement came and before they said they would keep the free plans | 21:40 |
| waldo323 | dad has now found it is easier to upload to my site than it was to upload to flickr :) | 21:41 |
| greg-g | nice | 21:41 |
| cmaloney | i need to find some offsite vackup | 21:49 |
| cmaloney | witch Craig photobooth... ;) | 21:50 |
| cmaloney | it's funny because thebtheme was Pepper&Carrot | 21:50 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: I use https://www.serverhub.com/vps/ssd-cached for my git-annex and duplicati remotes. I can't vouch for their quality other than my host hasn't seen any apparent issues | 21:58 |
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