[06:29] <didrocks> good morning
[07:45] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:45] <Saviq> morning
[07:45] <didrocks> hey seb128, Saviq
[07:46] <seb128> hey Saviq, re didrocks
[07:55] <willcooke> morning
[07:56] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you today? did you recover?
[07:57] <willcooke> hey seb128, I'm "ok", I dont think I'll be around all day today, but want to get caught up on email and stuff and then probably take off again around lunch.  Would you mind running the meeting?
[07:57] <didrocks> hey willcooke, I don't read any "thhhh", so sounds like your speech is back to normal :)
[07:57] <willcooke> :))
[07:57] <willcooke> No hangouts for me
[07:57] <willcooke> :)
[07:58] <seb128> willcooke, I can do, sure
[07:58] <willcooke> thanjks
[07:58] <willcooke> (my typing isn't any better)
[07:59] <willcooke> So yeah, the whole process was pretty quick, maybe 20 mins, but then it was still bleeding in the evening, so I have to go back in and get some stitches.  Again, easy enough.
[08:00] <didrocks> were you fully asleep when they did it?
[08:00] <willcooke> But today the drugs are all worn off and I'm feeling a bit swollen and sore, and my neck hurts for some reason
[08:00] <willcooke> nah, just a local
[08:00] <willcooke> quite a lot of them though
[08:00] <willcooke> I shut my eyes so I couldnt see the needle :))
[08:00] <didrocks> heh, wise choice
[08:01] <willcooke> *have to go back in -> *had* to go back in.  i.e. all done
[08:01] <willcooke> It was a lot less scary, drawnout and painful than I was expecting though.
[08:01] <willcooke> Just need to make sure I dont get an infection
[08:02] <willcooke> anyway, on to nicer topics, how was your holiday seb128?
[08:02] <didrocks> yeah, look out for infections, that's the worst part (but now that it's been 2 days, you would surely know already if you got one…)
[08:02] <willcooke> oh really?  wow
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:03] <didrocks> yeah, when I got some, it was really quick, like a day after
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:05] <seb128> willcooke, good mostly, baby got a gastroenteritis on the friday we started the holidays though, he threw up in the car like 3 times and managed to get us as well ... but after that the holidays were great :) a bit of rain but otherwise weather was nice, we managed to relax and had great food & walked around a lot :)
[08:05] <willcooke> oh boy, sorry to hear that seb128, glad it worked out
[08:08] <Laney> hey didrocks!
[08:09] <seb128> hum, we started converting some VCSes to git?
[08:10]  * seb128 notices that by random pocking but didn't see anything in his emails&co backlog
[08:12] <Laney> It's not random, I converted things when I worked on them.
[08:13] <seb128> my poking was random :p
[08:14] <seb128> I meant that I saw one of those by "luck"
[08:14] <seb128> or just because I crossed it while following other things
[08:14] <Laney> OK, how do you suggest they get noted?
[08:14] <Laney> Vcs fields should be up to date
[08:15] <seb128> I think it would be good to have a post stating that we started on that process
[08:15] <Laney> ok
[08:15] <seb128> and maybe a summary of how those are bootstrapped
[08:15] <seb128> so different people do it the same way
[08:15] <seb128> and we don't end up having things slightly different depending on who did the conversion
[08:15] <seb128> I don't know if we have a "how too migrate a vcs" today?
[08:15] <Laney> I don't have time to write that up
[08:15] <Laney> If someone other than me wants to do that, talk to me
[08:16] <Laney> I'll walk them through it and then we can write it up together
[08:16] <seb128> k
[08:16] <seb128> I'm going to mention it during the meeting
[08:16] <seb128> let's see if there is any taker
[08:28] <Laney> mutter and gnome-shell would be good ones to update if someone wants to work on updates.
[08:29] <Laney> Olivier was doing it but he's off now so someone else should pick that up
[08:30] <didrocks> yeah, he started doing it, but those guys with children… :)
[08:35] <seb128> Trevinho was keen to work on that
[08:39]  * didrocks still sees ubuntu-report sadly in unapproved for days :p sil2100, did you get a chance starting reviewing it?
[08:39] <didrocks> (and hey!)
[08:39] <seb128> does anyone here has thunderbolt3 device to verify bug #1773378 ?
[08:44] <sil2100> didrocks: hey! I did, left a comment aaages ago on one of them and still didn't get any answer :<
[08:45] <sil2100> (by 'ages ago' I actually meant 'a week ago' ;p)
[08:45] <didrocks> sil2100: on one of the bug?
[08:45] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-report/+bug/1765614
[08:45] <didrocks> sil2100: need to check my filters it seems…
[08:45] <didrocks> I didn't see it, sorry
[08:45] <didrocks> answering right now
[08:45] <sil2100> Thanks! :)
[08:46] <didrocks> sil2100: so, you don't copy anymore from bionic to cosmic?
[08:46] <didrocks> as at the start of the cycles, when unchanged, this is normally what's done
[08:46] <didrocks> if you prefer me to do another upload for cosmic, I'm fine
[08:46] <didrocks> I think those rules should be written down though :)
[08:47] <didrocks> last mail on this bug for me was: "Didier Roche (didrocks) has assigned this bug to you for ubuntu-report in Ubuntu Bionic:"
[08:47] <didrocks> ah, just after you commented
[08:47] <didrocks> that explains :)
[08:48] <sil2100> didrocks: it's a bit too late in the cycle I'd say, and SRU members generally don't do automatical forward copies ;) At least I never heard of this being something this team does without explicit request
[08:48] <didrocks> sil2100: so yeah, keep me posted if you do the binary copy or if you prefer a separate upload for cosmic.
[08:49] <sil2100> I think this was the main reason why other SRU members didn't touch this package
[08:49] <didrocks> ok, let me upload 1.1.0cosmic thus!
[08:50] <sil2100> I mean, I might still not know all the practices in the SRU world, but I'd suppose that if it was something only I didn't know about then some other SRU member would review the package and forward copied already
[08:50] <didrocks> yeah, they could have warned though :)
[08:50] <sil2100> Seeing that the package was ready for quite a while - which is a bit strange, since yeah, this could have just been published to bionic and bin copied at the start of the cycle ;p
[08:51] <didrocks> yeah…
[08:51] <didrocks> anyway, let's move forward
[08:51] <sil2100> didrocks: thanks! I'll review and accept it in a moment then after you upload to cosmic o/
[08:52]  * didrocks debugs why the gdb prebuild hook tells me I'm not in a git repo…
[08:53] <didrocks> which indeed, I'm not in the build area, so why does he wants to execute this? (and why not an issue in other projects…)
[08:57] <didrocks> sil2100: uploaded
[08:57] <sil2100> didrocks: thanks! Approving once I get this one thing finished
[08:58] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks a lot :)
[12:05] <Trevinho> Laney: as per mutter and gs on git, I've done them already... I can push the branches for carmic and bionic after some cleaning up
[12:06] <Laney> hello Trevinho
[12:06] <Trevinho> hi Laney
[12:06] <Laney> ok, I'll look at them
[13:30] <seb128> ok
[13:30] <seb128> it's meeting time!
[13:30] <didrocks> hey o/
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-06-12
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 12 13:30:14 2018 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <seb128> Roll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber (out), kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN (out), seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:30] <kenvandine> o/
[13:31] <Nafallo> morning :-)
[13:32] <seb128> seems like we don't have many people awake
[13:32] <seb128> still digesting their lunches? ;)
[13:32] <seb128> anyway, let's try to get start
[13:32] <seb128> started even
[13:32] <seb128> #topic andyrock
[13:32] <seb128> andyrock, hey, are you around? I didn't see you active today yet
[13:34] <seb128> I guess not
[13:34] <seb128> #topic dgadomski
[13:34] <seb128> dgadomski, hey
[13:34] <dgadomski> hey
[13:34] <dgadomski> Sadly I have nothing desktop-related this week to share
[13:34] <seb128> no worry
[13:34] <seb128> thanks dgadomski
[13:34] <dgadomski> thanks
[13:34] <seb128> #topic didrocks
[13:34] <seb128> didrocks, hey
[13:34] <didrocks> o/
[13:35] <didrocks> * Telemetry:
[13:35] <didrocks>   - discuss and review with j_ibel about metrics, how we should group and display them…
[13:35] <didrocks>   - uploaded ubiquity + SRU with relevant modifications to telemetry for 18.04.1 and OEM mode.
[13:35] <didrocks> * Apport
[13:35] <didrocks>   - look at existing apport/whoopsie integration. Raised some options of what we could do to have a "Remember this answer" in the UI (complex because button names changes in whoopsie, and it has dozen of different UI configuration it can present).
[13:35] <didrocks>   - implement my proposal, sent an email for review before going further, meaning adapting all UI tests to the new layouts.
[13:35] <didrocks>   - fix apport still proposing sending crashes when launched manually even if the system prevents reporting.
[13:35] <didrocks> * Communitheme:
[13:35] <didrocks>   - investigate Qt theming options. We have basically 3 options:
[13:35] <didrocks>     + depending on GTK2 (using the gtk2 theming), with one official Qt package from Qt usptream.
[13:35] <didrocks>     + using kvantum engine (existing communitheme for it). However: it's one more version of tge theme to maintain, the engine is a mostly a single file with 18k lines, upstream doesn't want to relicense the engine (a library) under LGPL. It's currently GPL and so, not compatible.
[13:35] <didrocks>     + Have a theme written without any engine, basing on Adwaita-Qt: more work.
[13:35] <didrocks>   From this, I would be tempted to go with #1, and then revisit once we can remove gtk2.
[13:35] <didrocks>   - other sync up on upcoming name and logo for communitheme.
[13:35] <didrocks> * Misc:
[13:35] <didrocks>   - a community member did some small comments on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/2, fixed them. No news from upstream still.
[13:35] <didrocks>   - 360 reviews
[13:35] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 2 in gnome-shell "Volume slider overdrive" (comments: 21) [Opened]
[13:35] <didrocks>   - some sponsoring
[13:35] <didrocks> .
[13:36] <seb128> didrocks, the theming question ... unsure what's best, is there a community hub topic for it?
[13:36] <didrocks> yes, one sec
[13:36] <seb128> gtk2 is mostly out of the default installation at this point
[13:37] <didrocks> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-communitheme-qt/6375/
[13:37] <seb128> k, thanks
[13:37] <didrocks> let's discuss that afterwards?
[13:37] <seb128> thunderbird is the only thing that kept gtk2 on the iso
[13:37] <didrocks> yeah, that's why I'm torned
[13:37] <seb128> but yeah, let's discuss after the meeting
[13:37] <seb128> thanks didrocks
[13:38] <seb128> #topic jamesh
[13:38] <seb128> snapd/evolution-data-server:
[13:38] <seb128> * contacts and calendar interfaces were merged to master last week:
[13:38] <seb128> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5184
[13:38] <seb128> snapd/portals:
[13:38] <seb128> * a branch adding auto-start of the document portal has got review
[13:38] <gitlab-bot> snapcore bug (Pull request) 5184 in snapd "interfaces: add {contacts,calendar}-service interfaces" (comments: 4) [Closed]
[13:38] <seb128> approval, but still needs to be merged:
[13:38] <seb128> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5271
[13:38] <gitlab-bot> snapcore bug (Pull request) 5271 in snapd "cmd/snap: attempt to start the document portal if running with a session bus" (comments: 3) [Open]
[13:38] <seb128> * with this branch merged, we have everything needed for file
[13:38] <seb128> open/save portals to work on an 18.04 install using the X11 session
[13:38] <seb128> (provided xdg-desktop-portal{,-gtk} packages are installed).
[13:38] <seb128> * Wayland support requires a mutter patch:
[13:38] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1774560 -- the
[13:38] <seb128> patch is included in 3.28.2, so if we plan to push that out as an
[13:38] <seb128> update it might not be worth patching this independently.
[13:38] <seb128> snapd/snap-uri-handler:
[13:38] <seb128> * I haven't quite got this to the stage of a PR: I am putting together
[13:38] <seb128> a stub snap command that can handle "snap://" URIs by installing the
[13:38] <seb128> gnome-software snap, and then invoking it with the given URI.  This is
[13:38] <seb128> intended as a way to handle Ubuntu systems without gnome-software
[13:38] <seb128> installed, and non-Ubuntu systems without a snap capable
[13:38] <seb128> gnome-software.  I am still testing out the implementation, and should
[13:38] <seb128> have a PR ready for review shortly.
[13:39] <seb128> #topic jibel/heber
[13:39] <seb128> - Reviewed MPs for ubiquity in Cosmic and Bionic (currently in bionic-proposed for verification)
[13:39] <seb128> - Maintenance of the CI infrastructure (disks are filling up with leftovers from dead jobs, still investigating)
[13:39] <seb128> - SRU verification of gnome-software in bionic
[13:39] <seb128> - ubuntu-report: continued the work on the dashboard
[13:39] <seb128> - Bug reports brought to our attention by Foundations for 18.04.1
[13:39] <seb128>   - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/1767468
[13:39] <seb128>   - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1752938
[13:39] <seb128> - Bug blocking automated tests:
[13:39] <seb128>   - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1771751
[13:39] <seb128> - No rls bugs
[13:39] <seb128> #topic kenvandine
[13:39] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Prepared screenshots and draft of blog post for Hyper-V desktop image
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Updated slot name in gtk-common-themes from gtk3-themes to gtk-3-themes as requested on the auto-connection request https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connection-of-gtk3-themes-icon-themes-and-sound-themes-interfaces/5118
[13:39] <kenvandine> * rls bug #1773213 uploaded gnome-online-accounts privacy policy link fix to cosmic and SRU to bionic
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Currently updating all the GNOME snaps to handle the slot rename to gtk-3-themes
[13:40] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:40] <didrocks> auto-connection \o/
[13:40] <kenvandine> didrocks, it's been granted :)
[13:40] <didrocks> communitheme core team is very happy, we discussed it privately :)
[13:40] <didrocks> yeah!
[13:40] <kenvandine> great
[13:40] <c-lobrano> oh, yes we are :D
[13:40] <seb128> thanks kenvandine
[13:40] <seb128> #topic Laney
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, hey
[13:41] <seb128> he might be having another day without a working graphical session while fighting systemd user sessions?
[13:41] <Laney> nah
[13:41] <seb128> ah!
[13:42] <Laney> • some more iterations of systemd stuff, making wayland work, improving the startup program to close any lingering units, restructuring everything
[13:42] <Trevinho> :-D
[13:42] <Laney> • autopkgtest - rabbitmq got an out of memory again, tried to make our stuff more robust against that by making the messages persistent (delivery_mode=2)
[13:42] <Laney> • internal review stuff
[13:42] <Laney> small list, big content
[13:42] <Laney> ✓
[13:42] <Laney> xz -9
[13:42] <seb128> thanks Laney, no spamming, way to go!
[13:42] <seb128> #topic seb128
[13:43] <seb128> just came back from 2 weeks holidays yesterday, trying to catch up with things while dealing with HR reviews
[13:43] <seb128> </start of week>
[13:43] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[13:43] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[13:44] <seb128> no tkamppeter?
[13:44] <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
[13:44] <seb128> I didn't get his summary
[13:44] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have it?
[13:44] <kenvandine> no, he's still traveling
[13:44] <seb128> k
[13:44] <kenvandine> sprint would be his
[13:44] <kenvandine> :)(
[13:45] <seb128> I guessed so, would be nice to have some details about what happened during that week but that's not for today I guess
[13:45] <seb128> #topic Trevinho
[13:45] <seb128> Trevinho, hey :)
[13:45] <Trevinho> hey, give me 1 sec pleas :)
[13:46] <seb128> 1
[13:46] <seb128> 0
[13:46] <seb128> done
[13:46] <seb128> Trevinho, summary?  ;)
[13:46] <Trevinho> · Fixed some bash issues on the snap desktop helpers, and some refactory (plus reviews)
[13:46] <Trevinho>   - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/133
[13:46] <Trevinho> · Cherry-pick of gdm3 upstream fix:
[13:46] <Trevinho>   - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/+merge/347812
[13:46] <Trevinho>   - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+git/gdm3/+merge/347813
[13:46] <Trevinho> · Prepared a fractional scaling PPA:
[13:46] <Trevinho>   - https://launchpad.net/~3v1n0/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-fractional-scaling/+packages
[13:46] <gitlab-bot> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 133 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: cleanup XDG dirs management" (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:46] <Trevinho> plus...
[13:46] <kenvandine> Trevinho, thx for those fixes!
[13:46] <Trevinho> · Fractional scaling fixes, more tests and some refactory (since I was there)...
[13:47] <Trevinho> · Nautilus rework for recursive query flags
[13:47] <Trevinho>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/249/
[13:47] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 249 in nautilus "Recursive query flags" (comments: 23) [3. Review Ready, Opened]
[13:48] <tkamppeter> hi
[13:48] <Trevinho> · Other nautilus fixes here and there (various commits in that MR plus others)
[13:48] <Trevinho> g-s reviews
[13:48] <Trevinho> 🏛️ (forgot other things, sorry I was late)
[13:48] <seb128> thanks Trevinho
[13:49] <seb128> #topic rls bugs reviews
[13:50] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#
[13:51] <seb128> bug #1752938
[13:51] <seb128> (the other ones are assigned to people that are not around and didn't send a status update for those)
[13:51] <Laney> they should be nominated
[13:51] <didrocks> Trevinho: as you did the git branch (I can't find it in launchpad, under ~ubuntu-desktop), do you take back from where Olivier stopped for the GNOME Shell/Mutter updates?
[13:52] <didrocks> (those are on the list)
[13:52] <seb128> Laney, bug #1765261 is for example
[13:52] <seb128> or nominated to cosmic you mean?
[13:52] <seb128> it is for bionic
[13:53] <Laney> no, untagged maybe then
[13:53] <Laney> i.e. the incoming list ought to be kept clean
[13:53] <seb128> right
[13:53] <seb128> let's untag then
[13:54] <seb128> k, done
[13:54] <seb128> then bug #1752938
[13:54]  * seb128 reads the comments
[13:55] <Trevinho> didrocks: oh, no... I did them already since long time (even before bionic) so i was using them
[13:56] <didrocks> Trevinho: are you going to tackle the udpates then or should I?
[13:56] <Trevinho> didrocks: you mean the point releases?
[13:56] <seb128> seems like a duplicate of bug #1767468
[13:56] <seb128> which is bug #1768610
[13:56] <Trevinho> didrocks: I've branches based on *.2 for both
[13:56] <seb128> Trevinho, ^ that's assigned to you, what's the status?
[13:57] <seb128> I raised it before going in holidays
[13:58] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I remember the ping, I didn't remember I was the asignee :|
[13:58] <seb128> :/
[13:58] <seb128> please have a look/get that fix uploaded, we need that for .1
[13:58] <Laney> nominate it
[13:58] <Laney> imho
[13:58] <seb128> yes
[13:58] <seb128> I untagged the other ones since they are all targetting bionic and assigned
[13:58] <seb128> let's target that one
[13:58] <seb128> and that's it for incoming
[13:58] <Trevinho> yeah... ok, I also I've lots of other things for .1, so... It's not easy to get them all done.
[13:59] <didrocks> so, I think we should get the G-S/mutter updates sorted out
[13:59] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:59] <didrocks> Trevinho: are you taking back osomon's tasks and get that sponsored?
[13:59] <seb128> I guess that's part of the catchup I didn't do it
[13:59] <seb128> Olivier was working on those before being off?
[13:59] <didrocks> or should I? Sounds like you have a branch ready, unsure how much this is a duplicate of Olivier's work though
[13:59] <didrocks> yeah
[13:59] <seb128> *didn't do yet
[13:59] <Trevinho> didrocks: as said I've things more or less done already
[14:00] <didrocks> Trevinho: duplication :/ we discussed it at last meeting though
[14:00] <didrocks> but ok, please have a look at what he's done
[14:00] <Trevinho> didrocks: well, thing is that was just the way I'm using for cherry-picking stuff, so it has been the usual way for making packages for me since some time
[14:00] <seb128> k, so it looks like the -tracking list has all its unassigned bugs as fix commited
[14:01] <didrocks> Trevinho: so, assigning bugs to you?
[14:01] <Trevinho> didrocks: but a part the fact I was also keeping the bzr stuff around for me, it's basically just https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/gnome-shell/commits/ubuntu/bionic/resource-scale
[14:01] <didrocks> Trevinho: please steal them :)
[14:01] <didrocks> why on gitlab? didn't we tell we were using launchpad? /me all confused
[14:01] <seb128> didrocks, Trevinho, let's wrap the meeting and we can discuss that
[14:01] <didrocks> yeah
[14:01] <Trevinho> didrocks: it's my branch, for temporary work...
[14:02] <seb128> I don't think there is anything to do on -tracking
[14:02] <seb128> everyone is fine with that?
[14:02] <Trevinho> didrocks: that's just an hosting I've used... not the proposal or anything else
[14:02] <Trevinho> didrocks: it's just I'm used to do git push gnome-mine :D
[14:02] <Trevinho> as I keep both downstream and upstream stuff int the same local repo
[14:03] <didrocks> seb128: +1 for -tracking
[14:03] <Trevinho> but... a part that repo has also the resource scale stuff since will asked them for a PPA, the rest is just upstream + ubuntu patches applied, and fixing someone else
[14:04] <seb128> k
[14:04] <Laney> seems ok to me
[14:04] <seb128> so Till emailed me his status update meanwhile
[14:04] <seb128> so
[14:04] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[14:04] <seb128> - cpdb-libs, cpdb-backend-cups: Investigation of code to do the improvements needed for getting these packages into Main.
[14:04] <seb128> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job.
[14:04] <seb128> - Google Summer of Code 2018: First round of student evaluations, all OpenPrinting students have passed.
[14:04] <seb128> - Performance review.
[14:04] <seb128> - Bugs.
[14:04] <seb128> #topic aob
[14:04] <seb128> other things to discuss?
[14:05] <didrocks> nothing meetingly, there is Qt/Communitheme we should discuss after the G-S update thingy
[14:06] <andyrock> hey guys I just woke up
[14:06] <andyrock> sorry I missed the meeting
[14:06] <seb128> #topic andyrock
[14:06] <seb128> andyrock, your turn :)
[14:06] <andyrock> * 360 reviews
[14:06] <andyrock> * Updated fix for LP: #1773213
[14:06] <andyrock> * Updated fix for LP: #1770686
[14:06] <andyrock> * Updated MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/software-properties/new-auth-dialog/+merge/345483
[14:06] <andyrock> * Self review
[14:06] <andyrock> * Still working on new auth dialog in gnome-software
[14:06] <seb128> thanks andyrock
[14:07] <seb128> and that's a wrap, let's discuss theme and shell updates then
[14:07] <seb128> #endmeeting
[14:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 12 14:07:15 2018 UTC.
[14:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-06-12-13.30.moin.txt
[14:07] <seb128> thanks everyone
[14:07] <Nafallo> thanks :-)
[14:07] <didrocks> thanks!
[14:07] <didrocks> Trevinho: so, back at my question, when I asked if you are going to handle the .2 updates, it seems it's a no, and that the branch isn't suitable for launchpad, or are you?
[14:07] <didrocks> I'm just trying to get if I should do it or not :p
[14:09] <Trevinho> didrocks: I said I was ok to do it :)
[14:09] <Laney> haha
[14:09] <Trevinho> didrocks: the branch is totally suitable for launchpad (I'd move to git anyway at this point)
[14:09] <didrocks> Trevinho: ok, so, please look at what osomon did, there is maybe some stuff to pick from his work
[14:10] <Trevinho> yes I noted that :)
[14:10] <didrocks> and so, steal the bug assignee to you :)
[14:10] <didrocks> thanks!
[14:10] <Trevinho> didrocks: the reason the branch wasn't in lauchpad is just that I did it for different purpuses, so I just pushed it in the gitlab instance, as I prefer to read things there from a web ui, but it's just a remote, nothing else
[14:11] <didrocks> Trevinho: no worry, just push them there, once Laney checked them :)
[14:11] <didrocks> I just don't want to trash osomon's work and have correct assignee tracking
[14:11] <Trevinho> no, I won't..
[14:12] <didrocks> ok, my second question was for c-lobrano, do you have a hilight on communitheme? :p
[14:13] <c-lobrano> didrocks: hehe, I always forget to remove it :D, sorry to have interrupted the meeting
[14:14] <didrocks> no worry, was funny :)
[14:14] <didrocks> c-lobrano: get an hilight on the new secret name :p
[14:14] <c-lobrano> :D
[14:16] <Nafallo> secretnametheme sounds worse!
[14:17] <Nafallo> :-P
[14:17] <Nafallo> nonameyettheme
[14:17] <didrocks> Nafallo: no, it's secretcommunithemename
[14:17] <didrocks> :)
[14:18] <didrocks> ok, so who is interested in discussing Qt theming?
[14:18]  * Nafallo hides quickly
[14:20]  * didrocks feels the general excitement on that topic
[14:23] <seb128> well, I would not depends on gtk2 at this point
[14:23] <didrocks> so, that left us with one option
[14:23] <seb128> option 3 seemed nice, but it's more work
[14:23] <seb128> so that's easy to say when you are not doing the work :p
[14:23] <didrocks> yes
[14:23] <didrocks> and I don't know who is going to do it TBH :p
[14:24] <didrocks> I think forking from adwaita-qt is doable
[14:24] <didrocks> BUT
[14:24] <didrocks> adwaita-qt is GPL
[14:24] <didrocks> when it's a lib, so technically…
[14:24] <seb128> it's basically a new theme to do?
[14:24] <didrocks> indeed
[14:24] <didrocks> then, I don't know if we can consider this to be a way to draw something
[14:24] <didrocks> and so, GPL is fine…
[14:24] <didrocks> seb128: https://github.com/FedoraQt/adwaita-qt
[14:25] <didrocks> then, Qt has some mechanism via QGNOMEPlatform (to package) to match the current gtk theme with the Qt theme to use
[14:25] <didrocks> if you look at style/ there is quite some code
[14:26] <seb128> if we depends on gtk2 it basically means no work?
[14:26] <didrocks> yes, it's MIRing qt5-style-plugins
[14:27] <didrocks> removing the Qt dep
[14:27] <didrocks> (as we did at the time with indicators)
[14:27] <didrocks> to not pull the whole Qt
[14:27] <didrocks> and with an env variable, it's using the gtk2 theme
[14:27] <didrocks> it's what is maintained as part of the Qt project
[14:28] <didrocks> as long as we have thunderbird pulling GTK2, it's ok, but it's not future-proof
[14:32] <seb128> it's a bit tricky to know what should pull in the gtk2/style plugins in that case
[14:33] <seb128> but that's not a new issue
[14:33] <seb128> so yeah, maybe that's the best for now
[14:33] <seb128> we can figure out another plan later on if needed
[14:33] <seb128> or see if someone volunteer to work on a new theme without the engine
[14:34] <didrocks> yes, I guess at least for 18.10, that's a good compromise
[14:34] <didrocks> but yeah, would be awesome to have logic like "if you have this and that installed, and only in that case, please install this"
[14:34] <didrocks> not a new issue though, as you told :)
[14:46] <Nafallo> seb128: I suppose I should have a thunderbolt 3 thing to try your gnome-control-center SRU?
[14:46] <seb128> Nafallo, yes, you need a device to auth
[14:47] <Nafallo> I've tried a little so far. installed it and apparently I have to fix my BIOS settings :-)
[14:48] <Nafallo> hmm. I wonder if the Dell docks I need to buy for my XPS13 regardless sooner or later uses that...
[14:48]  * Nafallo starts with BIOS settings regardless
[15:14] <Trevinho> tjaalton: hey, can we get https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=d7297b00444b0e2cd936fbfb08206a575ab8c29d cherry-picked (and in bionic)? :)
[15:14] <Trevinho> should finally fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/883319
[15:18] <tjaalton> Trevinho: 1.20 is in proposed
[15:18] <tjaalton> should include that?
[15:19] <Trevinho> tjaalton: ah, great... yeah it seems it's in 1.20
[15:20] <Trevinho> tjaalton: when you've a moment also consider https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106432 (I've sent it to the ML too, waiting...)
[15:25] <Nafallo> seb128: bah. can't test. looks like I've got a different issue with my thunderbolt controller :-/
[15:32] <seb128> Nafallo, thanks for trying
[15:39] <Nafallo> seb128: I didn't say I'd give up ;-)
[15:39] <Nafallo> but it might take a little longer :-P
[15:39] <tjaalton> Trevinho: I don't see it on the list, have you subscribed?
[15:46] <tjaalton> the bugzilla is a black hole for patches.. but they'll migrate to gitlab soon-ish
[16:15] <Trevinho> tjaalton: mh no, it's in review queue I guess
[16:42] <tjaalton> moderation queue, yes
[17:03] <Trevinho> Laney: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gdm/merge_requests/2
[17:03] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 2 in gdm "debian/patches/daemon-gdm-session-record.c-open-close-the-utmp-database.patch" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[20:51] <tsimonq2> Trevinho: Just an FYI on https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3286
[20:52] <Trevinho> tsimonq2: looks good, thanks