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| LocutusOfBorg | sforshee, maybe lets talk here | 14:58 |
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| sforshee | LocutusOfBorg: ok | 15:14 |
| sforshee | it's less work for us to use the in-kernel drivers as they should always be compatible with whatever kernel version we're working with | 15:15 |
| sforshee | but as I said, if they are currently missing features it's not too much trouble to keep importing the drivers from the dkms package | 15:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg | in my opinion it depends on how many features you want to give users | 15:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | having vbox in seeds is a trouble for me in freeze | 15:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | and meh, as long as the basic screen works, people are happy without the guest stuff, specially for live session | 15:18 |
| sforshee | right, my position would be to keep importing them into the kernel until the in-kernel drivers provide the necessary functionality | 15:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg | as you wish, keeping importing them was not so trivial, due to me forgetting to prod you and vice-versa | 15:26 |
| sforshee | LocutusOfBorg: ok, so what exactly would be missing if we switch to the in-kernel drivers? Shared folders, anything else? | 15:28 |
| sforshee | if the in-kernel drivers currently do provide sufficient functionality then I'm fine with switching to them | 15:28 |
| sforshee | so really I'm just asking you to convince me ;-) | 15:29 |
| LocutusOfBorg | vboxguest vboxsf vboxvideo are provided by the guest-dkms package | 15:29 |
| LocutusOfBorg | probably shared clipboard and sf are the missing bits | 15:30 |
| LocutusOfBorg | we have also the 3d functionality in vbox-guest-x11, so you have 3d accelerated guest | 15:31 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but you need an additional package for it | 15:31 |
| sforshee | so if it is only sf and clipboard ... for installer I think we could do without those | 15:33 |
| sforshee | then why don't we give the in-kernel drivers a try, we'll see how it goes | 15:35 |
| LocutusOfBorg | sforshee, I think with bionic we are already using the in-tree kernel driver? | 15:50 |
| sforshee | for vboxvideo yes. It does not have the vboxguest driver, that was added in 4.16 | 15:50 |
| LocutusOfBorg | at least we spoke wrt enabling for 18.04 or 18.10 can't remember now | 15:50 |
| LocutusOfBorg | wow I wasn't aware | 15:51 |
| sforshee | that's why I was asking, if we use the in-kernel vboxguest driver we lose the sf driver | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | also using the vboxvideo you lose it | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so, before you were losing 2 drivers, now you lose only one | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | s/o/oo/g :) | 15:54 |
| sforshee | we can use the in-kernel vboxvideo driver with the other two from vbox-guest | 15:54 |
| sforshee | but vboxsf depends on exports from vboxguest which are not exported by the in-kernel driver | 15:55 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oh... this is a big problem then | 15:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | anyhow, lots of time before 18.10 to see complains or revert decision | 16:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | FWIW we have the safe fallback called "install vbox-guest* and live happy" | 16:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | e.g. your vbox video passthroug 3d might not work at all | 16:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | because you don't have mesa overrided llibraries | 16:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so how can it work? | 16:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg | you also don't set rules to dkms created devices | 16:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg | look here https://sources.debian.org/src/virtualbox/5.2.12-dfsg-2/debian/virtualbox-guest-utils.init/#L62 | 16:10 |
| Simon- | how do I download the source for 4.4.0-127.153 (on xenial)? | 18:44 |
| Simon- | https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-image-4.4.0-127-generic just gives me links to 128 and 127 isn't available at that location | 18:45 |
| Simon- | there's a bug that has severely broken SCTP and I want to identify exactly what has changed | 18:45 |
| tyhicks | Simon-: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.4.0-127.153 | 18:46 |
| tyhicks | Simon-: 'dget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/linux/4.4.0-127.153/linux_4.4.0-127.153.dsc' would also likely work | 18:47 |
| tyhicks | (I've never used dget to pull down a kernel source package but use it regularly for other packages) | 18:47 |
| Simon- | thanks | 18:49 |
| Simon- | I think someone has failed to consider that AF_INET6 SCTP sockets can have AF_INET address bound to them :| | 19:01 |
| Simon- | sctp_inet6_cmp_addr used to be able to compare two AF_INET addresses but now they will just never match | 19:01 |
| Simon- | how would I get d625329b06e46bd20baf9ee40847d11982569204 applied to xenial's kernel quickly? | 19:18 |
| Simon- | actually I think that may not correctly compare the port :| | 19:21 |
| Simon- | the port happens to be in the same place in both sockaddrs, so it will work | 19:27 |
| Simon- | it's proposed for stable but it doesn't look like it's in there yet: https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/18/439 | 19:37 |
| Simon- | it is in fact already in 4.16.10, https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.16.10 | 19:47 |
| Simon- | however, this is 4.4... the fix is in 4.4.133, https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.4.133 | 19:51 |
| jeremy31 | jsalisbury Thanks for your time spent on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1764645 | 22:43 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1764645 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "Bluetooth not working" [Medium,In progress] | 22:43 |
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