| daftykins | diddledan: haha google's page lets you download a CSV of where the malware is! check out this list | 00:01 |
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| daftykins | Security issue type,URL,Date,Sample snippet | 00:01 |
| daftykins | that's it! | 00:01 |
| diddledan | nice | 00:01 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 06:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 07:32 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 07:33 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ugh fasthosts support are all "yeah we don't support special characters in the hosts field" what rubbish | 12:54 |
| diddledan | _ is defined in RFC. therefore it is not a special character | 12:54 |
| daftykins | :D | 12:54 |
| daftykins | i have subtly hinted that their decision gives the air that they are trying to ensure customers pay them for certs, therefore i may have to take my (friends) business elsewhere | 12:55 |
| diddledan | :-) | 12:55 |
| daftykins | *maybe* if i did stick cloudflare in front they let you enter such a host though | 12:56 |
| daftykins | wonder which RFC it is, i could blind 'em with documented science | 12:58 |
| daftykins | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1464 look like that one | 13:00 |
| mgdm | RFC1912 perhaps | 13:00 |
| mgdm | "Allowable characters in a label for a host name are only ASCII letters, digits, and the `-' character." | 13:00 |
| mgdm | Oh, hmm, I misread - as _ >_< | 13:01 |
| diddledan | possibly: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2782.txt | 13:03 |
| diddledan | that details srv records | 13:04 |
| daftykins | hrmm it definitely pertains to a TXT creation though, annoyingly | 13:05 |
| daftykins | the manual method from the utility 'certbot' the EFF provide for LetsEncrypt certs definitely speaks only of creating _acme-challenge.example.com | 13:07 |
| daftykins | all is not lost as i could just give up on obtaining a wildcard cert - but it'd be nice | 13:07 |
| daftykins | thanks for the input btw guys, as always :) | 13:08 |
| daftykins | yep their support has just come back and said NOPE not doing it | 13:10 |
| diddledan | https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1033.txt | 13:16 |
| diddledan | see "NAMES" in that document | 13:16 |
| daftykins | ooh beauty :D an explicit mention! | 13:18 |
| daftykins | diddledan does indeed deserve many doshes | 13:19 |
| diddledan | and that paragraph is about "restricting" beyond what the protocol allows: "The domain system allows a label to contain any 8-bit character." <-- ANY character | 13:20 |
| daftykins | just replied with that in the ticket, told them they're breaking spec :) | 13:22 |
| * zmoylan-pi suspects they'll respond with something that can't be printed in unicode... :-P | 13:23 | |
| daftykins | yeah, most likely :) and then they will see their business disappear | 13:24 |
| daftykins | i wonder if i really need the full 'sendmail' package on this VPS just to allow contact forms etc to send from apache | 14:30 |
| mgdm | daftykins: you might want to look into something like nullmailer | 14:31 |
| daftykins | oh ja? | 14:31 |
| mgdm | assuming you have access to mail servers you can relay through https://untroubled.org/nullmailer/ | 14:31 |
| mgdm | it pretends to be sendmail/qmail/postfix but isn't a full MTA | 14:31 |
| daftykins | well they're small sites of a friends i've taken off hosting company's services that were charging an arm and a leg - and am moving them to their own digitalocean VPS instead | 14:32 |
| mgdm | Ah, I'm not sure if DO will provide a mail relay | 14:33 |
| lopta | brb, fancy coffee | 14:33 |
| daftykins | mgdm: nah just letting the sites email straight out tends to do the job | 14:33 |
| daftykins | lopta: :o i would enjoy details of this fancy coffee :D | 14:34 |
| mgdm | daftykins: ah, in that case nullmailer won't be what you want | 14:35 |
| daftykins | it's that sender rewriting thing y'know so that they get contact form stuffs from their sites | 14:35 |
| mgdm | Ahhh yes | 14:37 |
| mgdm | I found that tends not to work well in these days of SPF and DKIM | 14:37 |
| daftykins | mmm more info online that folk just install either sendmail (metapackage) or sendmail-bin alone | 14:37 |
| daftykins | yeah, makes sense - these sites will get a redesign soon though so i'll just flag up the idea something smarter need be employed :) | 14:38 |
| mgdm | :thumbs-up: | 14:38 |
| mgdm | Oh this isn't slack :P | 14:38 |
| daftykins | i'd dump the whole forms myself and just put the phone # and a 'sendto:' email addy so folk can do it themselves :D | 14:38 |
| daftykins | ones a personal blog for a mates wife - and the other is a holiday cottages website | 14:39 |
| daftykins | as it is the latter employs just a mail forwarder right now, however i will move her to google G Suite for all of the £40/yr to make life simpler | 14:40 |
| daftykins | lol @ a yahoo as it is now xD | 14:41 |
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| diddledan | daftykins: postfix ootb works great on an ubuntu system - they provide simple default config choice when you install it | 15:15 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ah i don't fancy a full on-box mail solution though, as they won't be after full services | 15:39 |
| daftykins | diddledan: you win the prize! that forced them to look into it - and they created it manually :D | 17:25 |
| diddledan | nice | 17:25 |
| daftykins | although they messed up the paste and put in a quote at the end | 17:26 |
| marshmn | is there a way to tell whether my laptop is using 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz WiFi? | 19:02 |
| marshmn | I'm pretty much assuming that it's not even capable of 5Ghz TBH - but it would be useful to be certain which it's using | 19:04 |
| marshmn | (trying to debug something) | 19:04 |
| z0mbiebreakfast | -ex | 19:14 |
| daftykins | marshmn: looking up the chipset in use should show, if 'iwconfig' still exists it would often show network info iirc | 20:43 |
| marshmn | daftykins: ah, yes - you're right; in fact it does seem that I'm on 5GHz after all | 21:00 |
| marshmn | thanks | 21:00 |
| daftykins | pretty sure fasthosts fixed the ability to add a TXT record with _ in, but their support is lying saying it worked fine for them xD | 21:26 |
| daftykins | despite my screenshot of the error | 21:26 |
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