[00:01] diddledan: haha google's page lets you download a CSV of where the malware is! check out this list [00:01] Security issue type,URL,Date,Sample snippet [00:01] that's it! [00:01] nice [06:59] morning boys and girls. [07:32] o/ [07:33] o/ [12:54] diddledan: ugh fasthosts support are all "yeah we don't support special characters in the hosts field" what rubbish [12:54] _ is defined in RFC. therefore it is not a special character [12:54] :D [12:55] i have subtly hinted that their decision gives the air that they are trying to ensure customers pay them for certs, therefore i may have to take my (friends) business elsewhere [12:55] :-) [12:56] *maybe* if i did stick cloudflare in front they let you enter such a host though [12:58] wonder which RFC it is, i could blind 'em with documented science [13:00] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1464 look like that one [13:00] RFC1912 perhaps [13:00] "Allowable characters in a label for a host name are only ASCII letters, digits, and the `-' character." [13:01] Oh, hmm, I misread - as _ >_< [13:03] possibly: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2782.txt [13:04] that details srv records [13:05] hrmm it definitely pertains to a TXT creation though, annoyingly [13:07] the manual method from the utility 'certbot' the EFF provide for LetsEncrypt certs definitely speaks only of creating _acme-challenge.example.com [13:07] all is not lost as i could just give up on obtaining a wildcard cert - but it'd be nice [13:08] thanks for the input btw guys, as always :) [13:10] yep their support has just come back and said NOPE not doing it [13:16] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1033.txt [13:16] see "NAMES" in that document [13:18] ooh beauty :D an explicit mention! [13:19] diddledan does indeed deserve many doshes [13:20] and that paragraph is about "restricting" beyond what the protocol allows: "The domain system allows a label to contain any 8-bit character." <-- ANY character [13:22] just replied with that in the ticket, told them they're breaking spec :) [13:23] * zmoylan-pi suspects they'll respond with something that can't be printed in unicode... :-P [13:24] yeah, most likely :) and then they will see their business disappear [14:30] i wonder if i really need the full 'sendmail' package on this VPS just to allow contact forms etc to send from apache [14:31] daftykins: you might want to look into something like nullmailer [14:31] oh ja? [14:31] assuming you have access to mail servers you can relay through https://untroubled.org/nullmailer/ [14:31] it pretends to be sendmail/qmail/postfix but isn't a full MTA [14:32] well they're small sites of a friends i've taken off hosting company's services that were charging an arm and a leg - and am moving them to their own digitalocean VPS instead [14:33] Ah, I'm not sure if DO will provide a mail relay [14:33] brb, fancy coffee [14:33] mgdm: nah just letting the sites email straight out tends to do the job [14:34] lopta: :o i would enjoy details of this fancy coffee :D [14:35] daftykins: ah, in that case nullmailer won't be what you want [14:35] it's that sender rewriting thing y'know so that they get contact form stuffs from their sites [14:37] Ahhh yes [14:37] I found that tends not to work well in these days of SPF and DKIM [14:37] mmm more info online that folk just install either sendmail (metapackage) or sendmail-bin alone [14:38] yeah, makes sense - these sites will get a redesign soon though so i'll just flag up the idea something smarter need be employed :) [14:38] :thumbs-up: [14:38] Oh this isn't slack :P [14:38] i'd dump the whole forms myself and just put the phone # and a 'sendto:' email addy so folk can do it themselves :D [14:39] ones a personal blog for a mates wife - and the other is a holiday cottages website [14:40] as it is the latter employs just a mail forwarder right now, however i will move her to google G Suite for all of the £40/yr to make life simpler [14:41] lol @ a yahoo as it is now xD === layke is now known as Guest48762 [15:15] daftykins: postfix ootb works great on an ubuntu system - they provide simple default config choice when you install it [15:39] diddledan: ah i don't fancy a full on-box mail solution though, as they won't be after full services [17:25] diddledan: you win the prize! that forced them to look into it - and they created it manually :D [17:25] nice [17:26] although they messed up the paste and put in a quote at the end [19:02] is there a way to tell whether my laptop is using 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz WiFi? [19:04] I'm pretty much assuming that it's not even capable of 5Ghz TBH - but it would be useful to be certain which it's using [19:04] (trying to debug something) [19:14] -ex [20:43] marshmn: looking up the chipset in use should show, if 'iwconfig' still exists it would often show network info iirc [21:00] daftykins: ah, yes - you're right; in fact it does seem that I'm on 5GHz after all [21:00] thanks [21:26] pretty sure fasthosts fixed the ability to add a TXT record with _ in, but their support is lying saying it worked fine for them xD [21:26] despite my screenshot of the error