[04:30] <biber2> hi all.is it possible to upgrade ver10 to ver18?
[04:31] <tsimonq2> Yes, but you have to go 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 -> 18.04.
[04:31] <tsimonq2> It would be easier to reinstall.
[04:32] <biber2> thats alot :(
[04:34] <biber2> any app that works on Ubuntu will also work on Lubuntu?
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Yep, it should.
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Also, Lubuntu.me is the up-to-date site. :)
[04:34] <biber2> that i dont know
[04:34] <biber2> thanks tsimonq2.
[04:35] <tsimonq2> No problem.
[04:35] <biber2> i broke my ubuntu coz of ppas :(
[04:35] <tsimonq2> Were you still on 10.04?
[04:35] <biber2> no,only the installer.
[04:35] <biber2> im on ubuntu 16.04
[04:35] <tsimonq2> Ah.
[04:35] <tsimonq2> What broke, ooc?
[04:36] <biber2> hash mismatch whenever updating
[04:36] <tsimonq2> Hm.
[04:36] <biber2> if PPAs are not recommended whats the next best alt?
[04:45] <n-iCe> go with the last lubuntu version
[04:45] <n-iCe> will not regret it
[04:47] <biber2> is there a difference if the iso was not downloaded from lubuntu.me? got from ubuntu.com
[04:54] <tsimonq2> biber2: I would very strongly recommend against trusting anything from Lubuntu.net that has not been verified elsewhere.
[04:54] <tsimonq2> We (the official team) have no control over it.
[04:54] <tsimonq2> We do however have control over .me.
[05:54] <lvrp16> are the aarch64 ports for lubuntu in good shape?
[05:55] <tsimonq2> We don't have official images for them, thus we don't support them, but I'm not sure why they wouldn't work well.
[05:59] <lvrp16> ok I'll give it a go then, thanks simon
[06:00] <tsimonq2> No problem, let us know how it goes. :)
[06:01] <lvrp16> tsimonq2: we actually build aarch64 sbcs and upstream support in Linux so if there's some way to work with lubuntu, please let me know. an email or something to get a convo started.
[06:02] <lvrp16> lubuntu is the closest thing to 64-bit raspbian
[06:02] <tsimonq2> lvrp16: Oh nice. We're pretty limited to what official Ubuntu supports (or at least builds packages for, anyway). We're looking into official Pi images but we're undecided thus far on whether to go with arm64 or armhf (but likely the latter).
[06:02] <tsimonq2> tsimonq2@lubuntu.me - it would be good to stay in touch :)
[06:03] <tsimonq2> lvrp16: ftr, arm64 and armhf are all that Ubuntu builds packages for, although Debian does armel too.
[06:04] <lvrp16> arm64 is an ideal target, armhf i think ubuntu is stopping support if i am not mistaken?
[06:04] <tsimonq2> I started that discussion with gQuigs but that's something that's being investiated.
[06:04] <tsimonq2> *investigated
[06:05] <tsimonq2> We're blocked on Canonical tying up loose ends with partners to end that.
[06:05] <lvrp16> ahhh, i still think there's a market for armhf but arm64 is indeed a lot easier to support
[06:05] <tsimonq2> I mean, we want to go with arm64 most likely too, but ogra did mention that it uses more RAM for an executable to run.
[06:06] <tsimonq2> IANAE :)
[06:06] <lvrp16> i'm a software guy who learned about hardware in the last three years
[06:06] <tsimonq2> Please do also note that 18.10 and on is LXQt, so if you're looking for LXDE, for free support we can only go out to 2021...
[06:07] <tsimonq2> hehe, OK
[06:07] <lvrp16> hardware is way fun
[06:07] <tsimonq2> I bet.
[06:07] <lvrp16> i am aware of the qt transition
[06:07] <tsimonq2> OK, good.
[06:08] <lvrp16> we have hardware coming out that cost $15 and can run everything at 1080P that's not a raspberry pi and 64-bit
[06:08] <tsimonq2> NICE.
[06:08] <tsimonq2> :D
[06:09] <lvrp16> i'll send you an email
[06:09] <tsimonq2> Awesome.
[06:09] <tsimonq2> It would be great to get a timeline, but we'll do what we can to support you.
[06:11] <DynV> which kernel does lubuntu-18.04-desktop-i386 have?
[06:11] <lvrp16> July? :)
[06:11] <lvrp16> 4.15 like ubuntu?
[06:11] <tsimonq2> Yeah, that's about right.
[06:12] <tsimonq2> lvrp16: That actually works out perfectly.
[06:13] <tsimonq2> lvrp16: Please do email me details; if we get what kind of hardware you're working with, I might be able to get you an image for it.
[06:14] <lvrp16> tsimonq2: one of the other engineers has already tested an lxde build on 18.04 and it works perfectly. I will give it a go today.
[06:14] <lvrp16> s/an/a/
[06:15] <tsimonq2> lvrp16: Great.
[06:15] <tsimonq2> For the record, I'm at UTC-5, so I plan on going to bed soon. ;)
[06:15] <tsimonq2> But you've piqued my interest.
[06:15] <tsimonq2> er
[06:16] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I think I am at UTC-5.
[06:17] <lvrp16> oh you're state side?
[06:17] <lvrp16> I'm in jersey city ;)
[06:17] <tsimonq2> Ah. :D
[06:18] <tsimonq2> I'm in Wisconsin.
[06:18] <lvrp16> i thought for sure quigley was UK
[06:18] <tsimonq2> Nah, although in the summer I'm up during UK times sometimes. :P
[06:19] <lvrp16> cool, have a good night. lets talk via email.
[06:19] <tsimonq2> You too.
[16:00] <n-iCe> Ok, something really annoying is happening to me, I always in my laptop use an external tv 32 monitor, usually I don't move the laptop or take it out of home, today I did, and after login display is black, I think ubuntu thinks my monitor is connected, what can I do, pls
[16:28] <genii> Use whatever key combo on your laptop that cycles through monitor configurations like mirrored, separate, etc
[16:30] <genii> On my Acer here it would be FN-F5 but every laptop has this
[16:36] <egy> n-iCe: try to navigate to a physical tty (use Ctrl + Alt + Fx) where x is from 1 to 6. Log in then try `systemctl restart lightdm.service`
[16:38] <egy> see if you've your screen back (probably not though). Also try what geni said
[16:40] <n-iCe> didn ot work
[16:40] <n-iCe> had to connect a monitor and enable the laptop display
[16:45] <n-iCe> but why is this happening
[18:03] <reya276> How can I get my XP-PEN Star06 tablet to work on ubuntu 17.10
[18:04] <reya276> How can I get my XP-PEN Star06 tablet to work on ubuntu 17.10?
[18:04] <wxl> reya276: support for ubuntu is at #ubuntu