 Hi, is this a place to get help with UT?
 Hi @h4ppycup Welcome. You can get help here https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 You can also find more focus groups here https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 Thank You.
[01:46] <ubptgbot> Ion Laurentiu Nitescu was added by: Ion Laurentiu Nitescu
[01:46] <ubptgbot> <Ion Laurentiu Nitescu> Ow hi
 @Ion Laurentiu Nitescu, Welcome, Ion! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started and feel free to ask any questions you may have in here or in our Welcome & Install Room! You can also PM any admin (a user with a star beside their username) in either room!
 Hi, no one is avail in the welcome/install room. Can I ask my question here?
 well dang maybe i should wait before buying a meizu pro 5
 Any idea for Ubuntu touch on moto g lte Thea.
 @arudy, +1
 @_kim_, _kim_ you said 'did it', do you meant you installed ubuntu touch with success? (try to put '@arudy' in you awnser so i am notifyed ^^ please)
[08:31] <_kim_> @arudy Yes. The process involved resizing the cache partition; this is where I was being tripped up with the installer failing. I noticed when I tried manually copying the files to the device.
[08:33] <_kim_> @arudy Interestingly, I don't know if I needed to have the original ubuntu image installed. I got the same copy failed error before installing the canonical image
[08:33] <_kim_> @Fuseteam Do it.
 It seems as 16.04 r93 for the Pro 5 is broken. It hangs on the Ubuntu Touch boot screen with the dots changing colors forever...
 Can I use my sailfish os hybris sourcea for ubuntu without major overhaul?
 @TomasOqvist yes, it's broken on krillin (BQ E4.5) too
 Do not update to the latest xenial r93!!
 Too late
 Hum, sound great if it is working for you. I don,t remeber playing with cache partition since i used manually 'dd' to install the canonial ubuntu. …  Do you think you have time to make a 'howto' summary based on your bash history? I made one, but maybe i have not needed steps (since i just followed guide and used luckily the files i h
[08:38] <ubptgbot> ad in my ~/.cache folders!) i'm not on my pc right now. I supose i forced mysleft to so the canonical install to have the Meizu+Ubuntu pre-boot spash screen @ _kim_
 to do*
[08:39] <_kim_> @ubptgbot If you DD the image I guess it doesn't matter. I didn't have access to the original image so used the canonical image server to get an OTA image before in the end updating to UT
 @NYL91 please don't spam this group, thank you. Your post has been removed. Consider this as a first warning
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/670
 So with both your steps, and my steps, maybe someone that is not me (who understand stuff^^) could make a new howto or even script it _kim_
 @burlaman, There is a port for Moto G2 Titan but not for yours
 Don't pin stuff that notifies everyobe
 [Edit] Don't pin stuff that notifies everyone
 That was the intention
 r93 crashes UT
 Every device?
 Two at least. Possibly all. So wait until next release
 Better to take off that build then
 I was just booting my N4 to upgrade it to latest devel.. Seems like I wont do it 😂👍
[08:45] <_kim_> @arudy Yeah I might write a quick how-to specifically for UT. How I did it is all on XDA and someone has already scripted the install, so if i think about it the amount of steps necessary to make it work is much less than what I actually did.
 I would suggest removing the build
 @samzn, I agree. Pin was for time being until we sort it out
 We don't want everyone's device to go down …
[08:47] <_kim_> @arudy where's the best place to put something like that? I noticed a devices page somewhere on ubports which was noticeably missing a section for the pro5.
 @arudy, i litteraly did not know how to flash my phone, i just followed the same (pdf) guide i used 15month ago when installed in my now stolen pro5, i just have the skill to read the guide, copy/paste, and, well, crossing fingers. If you have something working and bonusly scripted, it would be awesome. … Hum i don't know, maybe
[08:51] <ubptgbot>  someone here could tell us, but i supose starting a new thread on the forum is a good start. Please ping me the url so i can also add my steps on it, so someone skilled can compare the value between our different process and get the best out of our both howto
 🤘
 _kim_
 I'm not going to lie.  I didn't even want to upgrade to r93 until I was told not to.
 @arudy, When i mean i didnt know how to flash, i meant i don' know technicly the deep steps, i only knew there are some unlock to do, filetransfert, and then tell to flash
[08:55] <_kim_> Also if someone can find the original canonical image that would be amazing. I think that's necessary for the dd method to work and plus I think that method will wipe out all trace of the original flyme image.
 HI, what is the latest Xenial r93? My OS build no. says r425?
 @nhaines, 😂 do it !!
 @JasonMD, The latest revision number is not the same for all devices (See http://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/16.04/devel/)
 ok thx, so am I ok?
 r426 is the latest
 All latest updates are affected by https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/670
 hmm, r425 was released on the 3th as well as r426, mine seems to be ok
 @JasonMD, r426 is the dangerous one for hammerhead
 Best thing is wait a while until we know exactly
[09:11] <_kim_> @arudy upon closer investigation, there is already a guide on the ubports forum detailing more or less the steps that I took. I'd be more than happy to condense the process into a proper how-to with the different methods (dd / original image vs resize and TWRP method) but I wonder if having another forum thread would be somewhat redundant.
 sure thing, thx
 yw
 They will not brick your device but it does mean a new install will be necessary
 _kim_ if the first post of the existing thread is someone actic he could edit his post to put your updated version, if not, better to be yourself the 1st post of your thread so you can update it. In your method, do you have the need of no ubports files? (recovery, update.zip, ...). Do you have the meizu+ubuntu spash screen ?
 https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/82182/37566351-40efdd86-2a8e-11e8-8dec-b6ce861957bd.png (splash on the left side)
[09:41] <_kim_> @arudy Yes.
[09:58] <ubptgbot> Dixit was added by: Dixit
 @_kim_, Do you have any advice?
[12:15] <_kim_> @Zack >> https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 Thought I'd ask here as well
 Fwd from fourloop2002: Given latest 16.04/devel version is not usable and ubports-installer only installs the latest version does anyone know how to manually install an older version.  I have the files for hammerhead r421 from an earlier update.
 @fourloop2002, sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=bacon --channel=ubports-touch/16.04/devel --revision=320 … As example for oneplus one
 thanks I'll give it a try.
 mycroft worked on my Nexus 5! awesome! 😁  … I said … "Hey Mycroft. Please reboot my phone" … boom! it worked!
 Mycroft is only available for Xenial right?
 I think so
 hi, my BG E4.5 is stuck showing at the left bottom: => FASTBOOT mode...
 @Xray2000, I am back in action with my Pro 5, just changed bacon->turbo and 320->92. I had to reboot it to recovery (Power + Vol up) manually after pushing though, but after a while it was back on r92.
 Ok, rebooting now, after holding power+vol button
[13:55] <ubptgbot> MInzord was added by: MInzord
 Hello have you got a link for unity8 for arch ?
 @MInzord, @vanyasem ^^
[14:00] <ubptgbot> Filip was added by: Filip
 find
 the matrix client FluffyChat has notifications: https://open-store.io/app/fluffychat.christianpauly
 Great. Now I can start attracting family and friends for the federal communication system matrix.org
 FluffyChat is like uMatrix? same account will work?\
 yes
 FluffyChat is a Matrix alternative
 Anyone interested in helping with an ota-4 feature? this should be pretty simple: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/657
 Welcome @Kongkongha !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 Hello there and thank you. I'm just a ubport user that want to see what's happening. Have a nice day
 @MInzord, https://github.com/vanyasem/Unity8-Arch
 i
 Fwd from Jan: mooi verhaal. Die vis onsprong de dans niet. … Maar waren de jongens trots op hun vangst?
 Fwd from Flohack: New Telegram version is out!!!
[15:59] <Beton> one of the important (at least for me) features that should be added to UT is headphones remote control support, because for now I can't change or play/pause music without reaching to my pocket :/
 @Flohack, Thanks
[16:09] <Beton> I don't know if this feature refers to music-app, mediaplayer-app, lockscreen or something else
 @Flohack, awesome! I hope it also fixes the issue with my nexus 5 where it stops connecting after some usage
 using it at the moment in night mode 😄
 but the OSK kills the night mode LOL
 hah yes
 sorry but we cannot switch maliit
 @fourloop2002, an update is out now
 @Flohack, Great thanks.
 Using the night mode 😎
 @neothethird, And it works :D, thanks a lot. Hmm, even online accounts and I didn'ŧ have to reset it the suggested way: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/602#issuecomment-396639367 … However even if I did that I still don't see Telegram listed under Ubuntu account nor I can enable it from within the app :(
 @neothethird, [Edit] And it works :D, thanks a lot. Hmm, even online accounts and I didn't have to reset it the suggested way: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/602#issuecomment-396639367 … However even if I did that I still don't see Telegram listed under Ubuntu account nor I can enable it from within the app :
[16:17] <ubptgbot> (
 @zubozrout, pinging @Flohack
 @neothethird, "Just a note about the fix: once the fix lands in the image, people who will flash it using the wipe option should see missing accounts. … Those who don't want to wipe their devices should open a terminal and manually run the online-accounts-hooks binary there (it takes no options, and should quietly fix the situ
[16:18] <ubptgbot> ation)."
 Ah ok sry
 @Flohack, we need system wide theme 😉
 Did not get it. Well Telegram can do nothing about this
 @neothethird, latest xenial is usable now?
 yep
 This is all an issue of the system image tools for accounts hooks etc
 @Javacookies, check the last post. https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/670
 @Flohack, well, it's fixed for all other apps
 @neothethird, Then tell me what they did 😆
 And I was so much looking to have Telegram notifications working :). Well, there were never any apps in the Ubuntu account section, right? Could it be that for some reason that account is different to others?
 [Edit] And I was so much looking to have Telegram notifications working :). Well, there were never any apps in the Ubuntu account section, right? Could it be that for some reason that account is different from others?
[16:21] <cariveri> Hi. is it possible to retrieve deleted sms ? I accidently deleted one.
 @zubozrout, Yes
 There arent any apps inside I guess, its also no in my 15.04
[16:26] <Beton> cariveri: I think this will be hard, if it was very important SMS, maybe you can try to recover it on filesystem level
[16:31] <cariveri> Beton: how would I do that?
 @Flohack I just had an issue with another app having version 1.3 in manifest and it started working when I changed it to 16.04 - but that's probably not it :(
 @zubozrout, hmm which issue?
 [Edit] @Flohack I just had an issue with another app having version 1.3 in apparmor and it started working when I changed it to 16.04 - but that's probably not it :(
 It was crashing leaving no logs anywhere - and I meant apparmor, not manifest, sorry.
 @zubozrout, Telegram notifications should start working when you have set up the U1 account correctly. Telegram will try at every startup to register with the push client
 this you can also see in its log file
 does it already work in xenial? i mean notifications for telegram?
 Is there a PDF viewer that works in 16.04? I tried the one in the OpenStore but it doesn't seem to do anything.
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PgJpm4Qc3M/ … Yes, I can see this: … virtual void OnlineAccountsClient::Plugin::registerTypes(const char*) Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Client … but don't see any relevant errors :(. Maybe those apparmor lines but similar ones are in every app on Xenial and not causing any issues.
 ahrg my device isnt support yet :D
 @Javacookies, if ubuntu-push-client is running and you've registered the u1 account, they should work
 @ronnietucker, Did you try in File Manager? I think one of the versions of that has it inbuilt?
 doc viewer should work
 What happened to this one btw? … https://open-store.io/app/filemanager.sverzegnassi
 oh i guess the click hasn't been rebuilt for 16.04 though?
 @Stereofont, Yeah, I tap on a PDF it get to open it with OpenStore or Print
 @dohbee, Correct  😕
 @ronnietucker, https://open-store.io/app/com.ubuntu.developer.bobo1993324.pdfjsviewer
 Ooo new version released today
 @advocatux, Tried that one and I didn't show up in the list of apps, opening it from OpenStore does nothing, and it doesn't show up in the list of 'open as' apps.  😕
 Ohoh latest update of camera app killed it on meizu pro 5 16.04 :(
 Thanks
 @ronnietucker I tested on my xenial device and it worked. I don't remember the details though. I need to reinstall xenial to try that app again
[16:59] <Beton> cariveri: afaik messages are stored in SQLite database in .local/share/history-service/history.sqlite
 @matv1, Installed from the OpenStore or the Updates screen?
 When Ubuntu Touch gets updated, is it normal for telegram app to sign you out?
 Anyone know if Desktop Apps scope works on 16.04 ?
 From updates @UniversalSuperBox
 The updates screen is getting the wrong downloads. Now you have the camera-app for vivid
 @Xray2000, it does not, because there isn't a build of it for 16.04, i think
 Who uses vivid anymore?? ;)
 @dohbee, Ok thanks Rodney....
 Alright, so easy fix then. Thnx Dalton
[17:02] <Beton> cariveri: I don't know if messages are deleted from database or just marked as deleted, you can copy this database file and use sqlite browser to check this
 @advocatux, it hasn't been updated since Dec.2017
 @dohbee, Tested. It doesn't unfortunately.  Print hangs too
 @Flohack In Telegram it would be interesting saying what rooms you want with notifications.
 @ronnietucker, It doesn't matter, if a vivid app doesn't need to be recompile it should work on xenial without a problem
 @Cesar_Herrera, I know. But I doubt it is possible. Telegram sends the unread message count from thier servers as-is. I have nothing in the API to control what they notify. Except that they wont notify for muted stuff
 Telegram is doing the same thing. I install it from OpenStore, it doesn't show in my list of apps, and it can't be opened from within OpenStore. Hmm...
 Have you tried to refresh the list?
 @Flohack, OK. Thanks.
 @advocatux, Yep. Tried pulling down.
 Uwriter installs and shows up fine.
 sometimes you need to try more than once, until you see that blue line
 @ronnietucker, Confirmed. Also doesn't appear in File Manager's list of options
 @Flohack, you can control what notifications show up on the phone, via the push helper
[17:10] <Beton> cariveri: even if messages are deleted from database, you can try to use methods mentioned in this stackoverflow question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/454942/undelete-accidentally-deleted-records-in-sqlite3
 @Stereofont, I'm getting the same for Telegram too.
 so you could theoretically have more fine grained control than telegram API allows for
 but whether it's worthwhile to do so, is a separate question of course :)
 @Cesar_Herrera, You mean this one? https://github.com/ubports/telegram-app/issues/131
[17:11] <Beton> cariveri: just remember to only work on copy of database ;)
 @Flohack, oh is that for the icon on the launcher panel?
 This is why I am asking what @Cesar_Herrera is talking about ;)
 So something weird happened with the update. Had to uninstall and reinstall telegram for it to work.
 how do you clean the cache for the system settings updates? my updates are failing :(
 Which device
 @Javacookies, Getting a update failed?
[17:18] <cariveri> Beton: ok, thank you. I got trouble to establish a wifi connection. a problem of the router, I think. still, it will me take some time until that is working and I can go on to tackle this message thing. :(
 @AlexanderPlaza, yes, but it's a bit different actually 😅...system image upgrade is failing...I have multirom
 and I just want to try to redownload first the uodates and see if it'll work
 They get stored on the cache partition, `/cache`.
 really? the files downloaded in the system settings app? can I access that in the file manager?
 i guess so if you unlock it
 but the files are probably owned by root
 i don't think you can delete them from file manager app
 Is it safe to update within system settings or on the app store
 you can't do system update from app store i think
 only from system settings
 for app updates i guess it doesn't matter which one you update from
 So latest update broke front facing camera on nexus 5
 Update to camera app
 I got them deleted and I'm redownloading, thanks for the help 😁
 @AlexanderPlaza, do you mean it freezes
 Because if that's the case, try taking a picture with the back camera.https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/611
 [Edit] Because if that's the case, try taking a picture with the back camera. https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/611
 Flashes green. Shows a frozen image of what the camera was facing last.
 Yeah, same bug.
 Nothing new
 @UniversalSuperBox, Just did that. Freezes up the camera.
 What telegram app do people suggest for UBPort?
 the native one
 if you want notifications to work anyway. it's still an old protocol version though, so not all features of telegram service will work
 @dohbee, We have a native one?
 yes
 @dohbee, Is it the webtelegram? Thats the only one in the store that doesn't say unofficial
 no
 https://open-store.io/app/com.ubuntu.telegram
 it's the unofficial one
 Unofficial meaning Telegram didn't make it
 Not "is bad" or "is not the recommended app"
 an app could be both unofficial and native @AlexanderPlaza
 which is ironic, since telegram worked with canonical to get it made
 or something like that
 Mmm
 Alright
 @malditobastardo, "uMatriks" not 'Matrix' alternative to be clear ;)
 @Flohack, The app Telegam allows say the room that wiil have notifications. Sorry.
 @Flohack, [Edit] The app Telegam allows to ay the room that wiil have notifications. Sorry.
 @Flohack, [Edit] The app Telegam allows to say the room that wiil have notifications. Sorry.
 @Flohack, [Edit] The app Telegram allows to say the room that wiil have notifications. Sorry.
 @dohbee, I had to add this. We need to slowly follow their guidelines. BTW when Canonical did it, Telegram had no policy that we need to use unofficial in the title. But now it does. Also the icon needs to change, sadly
 yeah i know. it's annoying
 @Flohack, no, the icon is ok, it's not the official one
 Ok this we need to check xD
 @Flohack, [Edit] The app Telegram allows to say the room that will have notifications. Sorry.
 we already discussed about this, don't you remeber?
 Is convergence actually a thing or was it Cannonical's plan only?
 it's a thing
 or more accurately, it is everything
 hi! i just ran in to the issue of how to update baseband & other firmware for the FP2 on the forum. if i run the command it says: device not found. can anybody help me out?
 @Vinz, I did it the coward's way. Installed Android most recent version, then came back 😃
 is there a step by step guide to do this? :-)
 @Vinz, https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/207914363-Manually-install-Fairphone-OS-for-the-Fairphone-2
 Then use UBports installer
 Anyone has a link/invite to Halium group, please?
 @halium
 @Linuxman1, @halium
 Lol
 how the hell were you THAT fast?
 @haloum
 [Edit] @halium
 So now he has three to try 😃
 xD lol
 Third time's the charm
 @Stereofont, tanx!
 Does UBPorts have chromecast support? I am thinking of a quick and easy way to connect any monitor to my Nexus5
 chromecast no, it has miracast
 @AlexanderPlaza, Nothing built in, no. There has been some discussion about how something equivalent might be possible
 the experience is super slow right now anyways
 So if I wanted to use an external monitor I would need something like microusb to hdmi?
 Slimport on Nexus 5 and BQ tablets
 Fwd from dohbee: the nexus devices support Slimport, the M10 has a direct HDMI connector, and Pro 5 works with Miracast (probably lots of other devices will too). I don't know what devices support MHL if any, or what the OnePlus or Fairphone devices support there.
 Correction. HDMI mini for the tablet
 @AlexanderPlaza, you need slimport, or use wireless display with miracast adapter on your monitor
[21:38] <ubptgbot> Io Note4 - Rocco was added by: Io Note4 - Rocco
 1600 members
 Welcome back rocco
[21:42] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Thanks. Hi all. Installed on my OPO r326 developer xenial version that created boot problem. Now with new r328 version my phone doesn't boot anymore. Someone has some ideas?
 We are checking that out. Trying to verify
 I've installed the newest version on all my devices and it works properly. Is there a new problem?
 Only OPO reported
[21:46] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Returning to vivid my OPO reboots regularly, but with new version doesn't
 @dohbee, Thanks. I will need to check out the miracast because then it would be a more universal solution with my other devices... … Just curious to know however. How well is the latency?
 #670 Rocky58
[21:48] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> @Stereofont, ?
 @Io Note4 - Rocco, The github comment
 @Io Note4 - Rocco, About OPO
[21:50] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Yes, but that didn't solved my problem
[21:51] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Ti remains at welcome screen
[21:51] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Boh!!! And now?
 @Io Note4 - Rocco, It is only just reported. It will take time to sort it out…
[21:53] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> But NeoTheThird wrote that he solved. Not for me
 @matv1, No, for me it stopped working after r89 or something. Thought new version of camera app fixed it, but no.
 @Io Note4 - Rocco, But yours is about a new version, so may be a new issue entirely
 @Io Note4 - Rocco, what welcome screen? are we sure it's the same issue as the previous one that was fixed?
 First step is to see if anyone else got the same problem
[21:56] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> O+1 in the middle of screen and android on bottom screen
 ok, the bootloader then
 hmm
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> Yes
[21:58] <ubptgbot> <Io Note4 - Rocco> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/VjboYv02.png
 Anyone know where we are on this issue? … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/611 … Once this is resolved, I will be upgrading to 16.04 😁