[19:13] enyc: it might depend what type of swap it is [19:14] but yeah, things eventually also rescan (usually when you get to partitioning), but I haven't heard of swap getting in the way of paritioning for a long while now [20:11] cyphermox: just normal partition-type-82 unencrypted linux-swap ... damn thing keesp being auto-remounted [20:11] mmkay [20:12] cyphermox: where this causes a rpbolem is with (a) changing/mwoving partitioans around manually, (at least) you have to right-click->'swapoff' and i REALLY don't think its necessary/useful on livecd/installer to auto-mount swaps on the disk you are rejiggling.... however... [20:12] cyphermox: bigger problem, if there is any linux-swap partitian and you (for whatever reasons) whatn to ALSO have an 'encrypted' partitino (e.g. for a system unconnected to the linux-swap) you CAN't by using ubiquity. [20:12] you should be able to watch dmesg, and/or set "DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer" on the command-line (when you boot the CD) and get more information, if it's because of the installer [20:13] no about of 'swapoff' manually works, there is some process that does this automatically in quite succession when you gto got create encrypted containter via manual-portitionnig. [20:13] enyc: I don't know, guided partitioning works correctly? presumably you should be seeing the same kind of issues there too? [20:13] and I have had swap devices existing on my disk before, and have done manual partitioning successfully anyway [20:14] cyphermox: good qsuetion, slast i checked you couldn't guided' do an encrytd install as adual-boot to other systems without manual-portitioning. [20:14] (all I'm saying is, I believe you, I just have no idea why that's happening) [20:14] enyc: right, this is exactly why I did manual [20:14] (dual-booting Windows for a project) [20:14] cyphermox: yes, but wheny you did you manual-portition,ngs were you resizing /moving the linux-swap or extended-container around it, and were you creating an 'encrypted' container at all? [20:15] in order to do what i wanted I had to manually remove (dd backup first) the swap-headers from the partition, THEN go through procses, then 'restore' them to get the unrelated-swap-partition not screw-up-the-process ;p [20:22] cyphermox: right... ok -- thats innteresting -- like a paramater on kernel-comamndline that kernel doesn't understand? but some usersparce process reads this and does $MAGIC [20:22] thankyou! [20:23] cyphermox: i wonder if ther are also poramebers to ubiliquite yexlicytly... or if I just want to log both stdout and stderr of ubiquity myself too. [20:27] enyc: I suppose I was deleting the partition, and recreating it as part of the process of the partitioning, but I expect if things were unhappy I should have had an error when deleting [20:28] cyphermox: iirc some things kest get greyed-out when a mounted swap or athoer mounted filestyme is blocking the process... [20:29] cyphermox: but in the latter case of creating an encrypted-portition... o dear it even warns you and explians you may need to swapoff... because unencrypted swap and encrypted-system mounted at same time not ''safe'' (disclosure of memory to the swap) [20:29] cyphermox: except you can't just use that advice, becouse something in the process and auto-remounts the swapq quitcly lol ;p [20:30] cyphermox: thnkyou for answering // thoughts !!. [21:00] ok