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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.05:58
zmoylan-pio/06:25
brobostigono/06:25
marshmnI'm giving Wavebox a try as a solution for managing windows for multiple Slack channels/WhatsApp/Gitter/Discord18:04
marshmnfirst impressions are pretty good18:05
AzelphurAnyone know anything about all the cheap tablets / laptop 2-in-1s that are floating around cheap? Can they run Linux ok?18:12
daftykinsgot any example links?18:29
Azelphurdaftykins: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHUWI-Hi10-10-1-INCH-Tablet-PC-Windows-10-Android-5-1-Intel-4GB-64GB-Keyboard/192318999374?hash=item2cc71b0b4e:g:arUAAOSw2N1ZzMSa18:37
daftykinsi don't even like Star Wars but i wanna say "easy, CHUWI!"18:38
Azelphurhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/VOYO-Vbook-i3-2-in-1-Tablet-PC-intel-Quad-Core-8GB-Ram-128GB-Rom-10/32860800749.html18:39
Azelphuris also interesting18:39
Azelphurthe idea of a little 1080p laptop that can run Linux and charge off USB for not much £ seems very interesting.18:40
daftykinsmmm, surprisingly not utterly rubbish specs too - although the CPU is a 2W atom https://ark.intel.com/products/93361/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8350-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-1_92-GHz18:41
Azelphuryea, for browsing, coding, movie watching, etc, it'd be fine18:41
daftykinswell, depending on hardware assisted format decode support ja18:41
daftykinsso the only thing that comes to mind is the usual EFI drama then18:42
daftykinsalso feeling a bit dumb that i'm not 100% sure up front if it's x86 or ARM18:42
daftykinswould've thought cherry trail atoms are x8618:42
Azelphurthey are x86 afaik18:42
Azelphurjust don't wanna buy one and have it not work, because then the laptops an overpriced brick to me18:43
daftykinscan't really go wrong with the £100 one either way18:43
Azelphurwell, I can if it doesn't work and then it's £100 down the drain ;)18:44
daftykinseven if the pictured keyboard layout is 'muricanese!18:44
daftykinsi doubt you'd have any problem selling it on, and you're only talking 'doesn't work with Linux' rather than doesn't work entirely18:44
daftykinsi'd be more than up for hearing how you get on and suggesting anything18:45
daftykinsor even running it by a genius i know who assisted bypassing 32-bit EFI hassles in the past18:45
AzelphurI think there's more than just EFI issues, there's other issues too relating to hardware, wifi, etc.18:45
daftykinswe can only hope they stopped doing that, but this is the exact kinda machine that would be likely to have that if it is still out there18:45
daftykinsoh yeah, but that's your primary one :>18:46
AzelphurI'd ideally like to pick something up and have it ready to use next week sort of thing :P18:46
Azelphurrather than might work sometime maybe if the drivers get fixed18:47
Azelphurthere's a lot of devices in this class, surprised nobody has documented them18:47
* daftykins stares and blinks18:47
daftykinsthen you need to stop trying to save a few quid i'm afraid18:47
daftykinswell there's just so much eastern tat out there now, eh18:47
Azelphursuppose lol18:48
zmoylan-pieven the non eastern tat is probably made in china... :-)18:52
daftykinsAzelphur: think i'd rather buy a £200 ebay Lenovo laptop refurb, you can get 4th gen intel (haswell) machines with 8GB and SSDs :)21:13
zmoylan-pithey do seem like the best option right now... very good spec for a nice price21:14
zmoylan-piwith a proper keyboard and not the new namby pamby wishy washy super flat crapfests that are modern laptop keyboards....21:15
daftykinsand still (i think) have BIOS updates for spectre, etc yep21:19
zmoylan-pii'm sure the updates install the latest backdoors /tinfoilHat :-)21:24
daftykins;)21:24
diddledanwho does games on loonicks?21:30
daftykinsoptimists, i think21:30
diddledanif it's you, try `sudo snap install --edge gog-galaxy-wine; sudo snap connect gog-galaxy-wine:hardware-observe; sudo snap connect gog-galaxy-wine:process-control; gog-galaxy-wine`21:31
daftykinsdiddledan: finally got the wordpress pass \o/ deleted that old host user and updated a plugin \o/21:31
diddledanyey21:31
daftykinsany advice on changing wp-content/ image URLs to be https along with the rest of the site o0 i've edited the sorta main site settings for its' self references, but would past uploads require database edits?21:32
diddledanthe hello dolly and akismet are not in use by the site, but they come with any fresh WordPress21:32
daftykinsyep, know 'em well from my days running mine :) (which i retired)21:32
diddledanhttps://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/better-search-replace/ is the go-to - install that, activate and use it with the full old URL into it and the full new URL - e.g. "search for" http://old.example.com, and "replace with" https://awesome.example.com21:35
daftykinsooh thank ye21:35
diddledanthat'll also replace any internal links in posts and pages with the new url21:36
daftykins\o/21:37
daftykinsdone and done \o/21:48
diddledanhah, just got a mailing lists email about a job for a "senior site reliability engineer".. working "remotely".. doesn't the whole "site" bit require that you not be remote?21:48
daftykinswhat if it's a website!21:49
ali1234yes but the "senior" part implies you just make your junior do all the work21:51
diddledanaha21:51
diddledanWORK, PEON!21:51
* diddledan cracks the whip21:51
daftykins:D21:52
daftykinslopta: hey \o all well?21:53
daftykinsdiddledan: informational PM btw sir21:53
loptahello daftykins!21:54
loptaI tried Ubuntu Server on my 32-bit test rig but it wouldn't boot.21:54
daftykinsd'aww21:54
lopta(even into the installer)21:54
daftykins18.04?21:54
* diddledan categorises, collates, and catalogues the pm21:54
daftykinsprobably a PAE issue21:54
lopta16.04.421:55
daftykinsdo you know the CPU it has?21:55
diddledandaftykins: what did Dubai do to upset 32bit computers?!!!21:55
lopta1 GHz VIA #c21:55
loptaC3*21:55
diddledanoh, wait, PAE, not UAE21:55
* lopta nods21:56
loptabrb, phone21:56
daftykinsi think it's too late for a system of that age i'm afraid, you could look into the 'forcepae' kernel boot parameter, but it looks like the VIA C3's won't work21:57
diddledan32bit is dead in the water these days21:58
* lopta nods21:58
diddledaneven pfsense has killed 32bit21:58
loptaIt still works for BSD but I could spend some money and put a 64-bit board in it.21:58
daftykinsalternatively if it's not online, you could run an outdated, thus EOL, OS21:58
loptaAt present it's not connected to the Internet.21:59
diddledanor, run a REALLY outdated EOL OS that is so old the haxx0rs have forgotten about it21:59
loptaI suppose upgrading the board would let me move up to gigabit Ethernet, too.21:59
diddledanmmm, jiggerwatts22:00
daftykinsif all the parts inside match age wise, i'd be concerned about the PSU's capabilities for throwing a new motherboard in22:00
diddledanI'm betting Christopher Lloyd calls them Jiffs, too22:01
lopta180W SFX (it's an mATX desktop)22:01
diddledanthem images**22:01
loptaWell, formerly a desktop ;-)22:01
loptaI should be back later this evening.22:02

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