[02:08] <andrew09_> I tried to install Ubuntu 18.04 and after connecting to the WiFi I face this message in the next page "Not available because there is no internet connection" even though it's working in the Live version and I can use the internet but can't in the installer.
[02:27] <Canon_> Anyone here
[02:38] <Roey> hi
[02:39] <Roey> I try to umount /backup and it tells me /backup: target is busy
[02:39] <Roey> how do I track down who is using this file?
[02:39] <Roey> I forget the syntax for lsof
[02:39] <Roey> and for fuser
[02:52] <bkdogan> Just want to say thanks to the Kubuntu team! You guys have done an amazing job with everything.
[06:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:07] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:58] <EvilRoey> hihi BluesKaj :)
[10:59] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: $ sudo umount /backup
[10:59] <EvilRoey> umount: /backup: target is busy.
[10:59] <EvilRoey> alright.. so, $ fuser -v /backup -> /backup:             root     kernel mount /backup
[10:59] <EvilRoey> how do I umount this device cleanly?
[10:59] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: ^
[11:07] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey: doyou have/backup listed as an entry in /etc/fstab, assume it's a separate or external drive
[11:08] <BluesKaj> or partition
[11:11] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: yes, as a separate device
[11:11] <EvilRoey> in /etc/fstab
[11:12] <BluesKaj> ok , show me the device entry line, you can post it here
[11:18] <EvilRoey> # 20160512 Roey Katz
[11:18] <EvilRoey> /dev/sdb              /backup ext4  nofail,noatime,defaults      0    2
[11:18] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: ^ there
[11:22] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey:  whynot use UUID instead , you can find it's UUID with sudo blkid. Using the /dev/sdX isn't as reliable as UUID from what I've read.
[11:23] <BluesKaj> and why noatime in the entry ?
[11:23] <EvilRoey> because I've found things faster with noatime
[11:23] <BluesKaj> and nofail
[11:23] <EvilRoey> because sometimes it's not there when the sytem boots.  It's an external backup device.
[11:24] <EvilRoey> and the reason I don't use the UUID is because I alternate between two backup devices.
[11:24] <BluesKaj> the simpler the better, with uuid you'll be better off than /dev/sdx
[11:25] <BluesKaj> UUIDs are assigned to each device
[11:25] <BluesKaj> do you periodically disconnect your backup devices ?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> if so , time to buy an ethernet switch
[11:27] <BluesKaj> so they can remain connected at all times
[11:28] <BluesKaj> or connect them to your router and use them as LAN devices
[11:37] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: I do periodically disconnect htem, yes.
[11:38] <EvilRoey> i mean, point is, I have two devices with two separate UUIDs that both attach to the same directory path
[11:38] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: I have one for two weeks, then switch with the other
[11:38] <EvilRoey> and so on.
[11:38] <CalicoFlows> Can I run my system without compositor but still retain the functionality of my laptop brightness buttons?
[11:38] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: anyway, how can I umount this drive?
[11:38] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: (reboot first?)
[11:39] <BluesKaj> use it's uuid and it should give you access to unmount it
[11:43] <BluesKaj> CalicoFlows:  which compositor, KDE/Plasma uses one by default in systemsettings>Hardware.Display and Monitor>Compositor
[11:57] <EvilRoey> hey BluesKaj
[11:57] <BluesKaj> have to reboot ..bbiab
[11:57] <EvilRoey> So I used "blkid" to get the UUID of the device, and then put it into /etc/fstab
[11:57] <EvilRoey> umount still gives me the same error though (device is busy)
[11:58] <CalicoFlows> when I disable compositor - if I move my cursor to the very corner of the display over the Show desktop button, I don't click on tthe button but in some sort of empty space... I need to move my cursor back a millimeter so I can click on it.. which is quite frustrating as I use Show desktop all the time. Is there a way to move the entire panel a few pixels or another solution maybe?
[12:21] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:
[12:21] <EvilRoey> So I used "blkid" to get the UUID of the device, and then put it into /etc/fstab
[12:21] <EvilRoey> umount still gives me the same error though (device is busy)
[12:22] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey:  make sure you didn't have any quotes around the uuid entry in fstab, sorry i forgot to mention that
[12:23] <BluesKaj> and make sure you reboot as well
[12:25] <EvilRoey> ah ok hen.
[12:25] <EvilRoey> then.
[12:25] <EvilRoey> reboot is the operative word
[12:25] <EvilRoey> yeah I made sure to remove the quotes
[12:26] <EvilRoey> thanks.  I'll reboot in a bit
[13:02] <viktor> Hey, when can we expect releasing plasma 5.13 in the backports repo
[13:06] <BluesKaj> viktor:  maybe if you ask in #kubuntu-devel
[14:28] <Algot> Recent Kubuntu update fails with no details: flatpak (0.11.8.1) xenial - any suggestions?
[14:37] <acheronuk> Algot: there is no flatpak in xenial
[14:41] <Algot> acheronuk: That certainly explains the lack of details. Thanks.
[15:05] <Algot> acheronuk: I had apparently tried adding a PPA (which may not have worked). The Discover Software Center didn't let me delete it. Had to resort to the terminal APT command. Thanks again for setting me off in the right direction.
[15:05] <acheronuk> makes sense :)
[22:59] <mattfly1> the klaunch app doesnt get triggerred when i hit meta key even tho its shortcut is set to alt+F1
[22:59] <mattfly1> it stopped working
[22:59] <mattfly1> i restarted plasmashell and nothing...
[22:59] <mattfly1> any idea why