[14:58] <psusi> could a release manager approve the bionic target for #1668148 please?
[15:18] <rbasak> psusi: no. Please get consensus on your proposed changes first.
[15:25] <psusi> rbasak: if you will notice, Steve kept saying that the question will not be put back.  That isn't what I was saying needs to happen.  He hasn't responded in a few days so maybe he finally got it, I don't know, but we have hundreds of bug reports coming in like bug #1768553 that are all caused by this change.
[15:32] <rbasak> psusi: maybe put your case to ubuntu-devel@ then?
[15:33] <rbasak> psusi: if you can't get a clear answer from the ML then you can ask the TB to make a decision.
[15:33] <rbasak> psusi: right now, from my point of view you have a TB member disagreeing with you on a technical point that I haven't looked into in detail. I don't think it's appropriate to proceed without getting clarity on the situation from other Ubuntu developers.
[15:33] <rbasak> (or if you convice Steve otherwise)
[15:35] <rbasak> psusi: thank you for caring, BTW. I appreciate that. If you think that your proposal is better for users, please do continue to engage.
[15:36] <rbasak> psusi: but in the face of a disagreement we have to make a team decision in order to make progress, and Ubuntu has a clear path on how to achieve that.
[15:37] <rbasak> if you can't get a clear answer from the ML then you can ask the TB to make a decision> actually I guess the SRU team could make a decision in the first instance, assuming that the same change is already in the development release. If it's not, then it's the TB.